I'm gonna play some videogames for like, an hour. Maybe two.
When I come back a bunch of people will have checked the thread because they had a weird feeling about the deadline being tonight instead of tomorrow and they'll consolidate votes and we can assess our options.
My legacy is, uh.
Wisp still town. Probably.
Grape is ~probably a villager for bunches of reasons that I find compelling but apparently aren't that compelling or something.
Chris is probably town, there's just too much extra... stuff. Wolf!Chris probably doesn't accidentally box himself in with town reads so that I'm the only person he can try to push as an actual mislunch. He probably doesn't spend most of the day fearmongering paranoia about me because he has to shoot me sooner or later. I'm a rather unstable pocket later in the game and he needs a reason to still be alive. I dunno it just seems unlikely.
Tubba is probably town but I wish he would actually, like, get involved a bit more. Post baseless speculation and then read how the thread flows around it, that's what everyone else is doing!
Rodemy is probably town based on Will's posts and LnGrrr interactions if nothing else.
Vaimes is ehhhhh. The posts he's made are pretty villagery. Very villagery, even. But he's not posting and the less he posts the more I want him dead. Meh.
I still do not understand why people are clearing Rhand. He's probably a wolf in Vaimes!town worlds and the fact Vaimes was the first one to try to clear him for LnGrrr interacts is uh. Weird. If Rhand is a villager Vaimes is ~probably a wolf from that votecount I colored a bunch (unless Rodemy/Will is somehow).
Cantrip reads like a villager but he might be a wolf in a very convincing disguise.
shadow reads like a wolf but he might be a sheep in wolves clothing.
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Silver just completely left any possibility of wolf land.
I *did* see the post from Will. Iirc, it came shortly after Silver's and Shadow's mostly naked votes on LnG, and that's what I initially thought both of them were doing: noticing that LnG had been on Tom since forever. So when I got to Will's post, it felt like he was just explaining something that others had already highlighted, but maybe not. 😐
I guess I'll vote pretty much any of Chris, Rod, Shadow, and Rhand (on order of preference) to avoid a no lunch.
Well, I strongly prefer Rhand to Rodemy, and I think Chris and Wisp do too since they just left his wagon rofl
Did you read the Will post I quoted?
probably wouldnt vote Rhand, but like if I need to hammer, I will do it
There are a bunch of people who, for one reason or another, are straight up not going to show up for deadline tonight. We have to choose between Rhand, Rodemy, and shadow.
Feel free to rank those choices if you'd like, but unless Vaimes or someone randomly shows up while V/LA shadow isn't happening. Unfortunately.
Well, I strongly prefer Rhand to Rodemy, and I think Chris and Wisp do too since they just left his wagon rofl
Did you read the Will post I quoted?
probably wouldnt vote Rhand, but like if I need to hammer, I will do it
There are a bunch of people who, for one reason or another, are straight up not going to show up for deadline tonight. We have to choose between Rhand, Rodemy, and shadow.
Feel free to rank those choices if you'd like, but unless Vaimes or someone randomly shows up while V/LA shadow isn't happening. Unfortunately.
ya I get that, and at least we have one mafia down already
So let me play "If I towncleared someone for bad reasons who was it?"
##vote: Rhand
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KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I’m here, I’ll vote rhand to prevent a no lynch but for no other reason.
@Silver: fwiw, I was on Lng the same time Tom was early game and moved off to go pursue Chris, coming back when that didn’t pan out. This is in reference to your post earlier about not remembering when I first pushed Lng.
What’s up with your Rodemy vote? You voted to consolidate and because you don’t like his approach to accruing votes, and it doesn’t seem like you’ve looked back or probed it at all.
It’s just if you thought you had a hit why aren’t you trying to convince anyone else?
What’s up with your Rodemy vote? You voted to consolidate and because you don’t like his approach to accruing votes, and it doesn’t seem like you’ve looked back or probed it at all.
It’s just if you thought you had a hit why aren’t you trying to convince anyone else?
Rod was one of the higher wagons at the time, no one was biting on Chris, and deadline was coming up, not much more than that. And like I said at the time, his post right before mine had an odor to it.
I'm gonna play some videogames for like, an hour. Maybe two.
When I come back a bunch of people will have checked the thread because they had a weird feeling about the deadline being tonight instead of tomorrow and they'll consolidate votes and we can assess our options.
C L A I R V O Y A N C E
Still want shadow but we need Chris's help.
Help me obi-wan chrisobi, you're my only hope.
If Chris is dead set against shadow we'll have to settle for Rhand, I suppose.
I’m here, I’ll vote rhand to prevent a no lynch but for no other reason.
@Silver: fwiw, I was on Lng the same time Tom was early game and moved off to go pursue Chris, coming back when that didn’t pan out. This is in reference to your post earlier about not remembering when I first pushed Lng.
Okay I read your iso. You did vote him and kind of push him a bit early game, I guess.
I'm not super sure that isn't distancing though.
Ehhhh.
Like Rhand is ~fine I guess but. I maybe I just want you to be a wolf.
I just think it is completely sick of Shadow is poking me day 1 and 2 trying to get me to try more as scum. I have been pocketed if he is scum.
Rhand at least is half dead and my town read on him is based on iffy stuff that I usually go "oh god damnit Chris, you town cleared a bit much"
If rhand is not scum... I have big problems this game I think.
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KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Aww man, are you actually town who just limped around.
This is not going to be my game if that's the case.
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The thunder outside feels close. Almost directly above the house perhaps. The whistling wind is almost screaming through the windows, making it hard to hear things. Or, it would if not for all the accusatory shouting of the houseguests. Eventually, Rhand finds himself cornered in the kitchen.
The group of crazed hooligans draws closer.
"IT'S HIM! HE'S ONE OF THEM!" can be heard from among the group, which slowly begins to engulf Rhand. The group decends.
When they recede, Rhand is dead.
He was Phineas Plum, Town Vanilla.
You are Phineas Plum, Town Vanilla
A prominent professor of Philosophy, Professor Phineas Plum is an artifact of a bygone age. Bespectacled with a signature Tweed jacket and bow tie, you fit the bill of stereotypical college professor.
Your students would never guess that you used to be one of this hell-raising hippies from back when.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Well my options are shadow being all like "rawr chris is scum for not being peak scum" or Silver "master plan" over there or um... nope I have a feeling this wont end well for me or town if rhand is indeed town <_<
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Your Nights are interrupted by a loud BANG from one of the upstairs hallways. As everyone begins making their way there, the carpet stains make themselves clear very quickly. When you all get close enough to see the scene in detail, the gore of the scene takes you all aback.
Lying large pool of blood, with a massive head wound, a gash in the neck, and clutching a gun is Silvercrys3467. He was Melissa Mustard, Town JOAT.
You are Melissa Mustard, Town Jack Of All Trades
You are a retired captain in the NYPD.. You served your time well, and are proud to have served. Sometimes you miss serving though. Your skinny blonde frame tenders to throw people off as they get to know the tough, no-nonsense woman underneath.
You still have your old cop implements from your time on the force: Your trusty gun (you only brought one bullet though), a pair of radios, and some blue talc powder you used to use for grip.
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Shoot someone should they deserve it. (1-shot Vig)
Set a trap to see who visits a certain room. (1-shot Watch)
Lying next to Silver is shadowlancerx. He was shot in the chest. He was Randall Redding, Nexus Goon.
You are Randall Redding, Nexus Goon.
You’re a retired postal worker who spends his days doing crosswords to pass the time. Occasionally you walk to the dog park to feed the pigeons. Life’s kinda boring for you, honestly.
You yearn for the sense of purpose The Job brought you. Maybe you'll take up some dangerous sport, like archery or bowling.
You “retired.” They forced your retirement because some guys drugs went missing on your watch. And you called in sick the next day. That was a coincidence. You wanted revenge.
Night Actions: You may perform the kill for your team. Members with additional abilities cannot also perform the kill unless they are the only ones left alive.
Most of you are shaken by all the gore, but you still have work to do.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Hm, so my instincts aren't horribly off I just didn't understand Shadow's motivations well at the end there. Fair.
I should never waver from rule of 3 apparently lol.
Got to say, not used to being carried through a game but after all of the times I've done it, I guess I'll take it.
3 shots with 6 bodies.
I will have to re-read again but Vezok, Cantripmancer, Wisp, Rodemy (Will really) all have good town cases. It should be interesting what Cantripmancer makes of my interactions with shadow lol <_<
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God looking back my reason for unvoting shadow yesterday was STUPID. Stupid Chris, THAT was the soft reason for town reading someone, not Rhand.
I hate that btw. I know my own meta, I know my blindspots that I have to adjust for to find scum when I tend to see the good in people but I still lynch wrong. So annoying.
Trust. Your. Reads. Christopher.
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Wisp/Rumanshi
Tubba
vezok/Grape
Rodemy/Will
Vaimes/Shinichi
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But I want to do some review, especially of Shadow, before pushing anywhere. I think he's usually pretty good at avoiding bad interactions with buddies/good at manufacturing interactions with town, but it's still worth the time.
Any thoughts on Silver's legacy, specifically the last part:
I will say that if I die toNight you need to read my role very, very carefully. Yes, you, villager of the future. I know, dead villagers are wrong, but this isn't about my reads, this is mechanical info. Promise.
I have some thoughts, but I'm not sure they completely make sense, so I don't want to preclude anyone else's ideas.
We have two lunches to get this right; let's make good use of them.
Oh my god is Rhand actually scum? I was like just poking him to see where it went and he like full on went "CHRIS THINKS I AM SCUM, OH MY GOD" defense mode.
Oh god I am now HYPED for a conversation with Rhand.
Hm, and why Columbo?
@Sir Chris: Explain your mindset while making this post.
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vote: Chris
gunna start off here, too much self-awareness in his first two posts coming into today, I hate it
we also could've had shadow yesterday, it's a good thing that Silver knows how to properly use the vigilante role
I don't get what I am supposed to be looking for in his role card though, I am assuming he breadcrumbed his watch, or the neighborize
I gotta go back and look at both his posts and shadows
And that's assuming Cantrip can come back and move his vote to one of them.
We might actually have zero viable wagons right now.
Did you read the Will post I quoted?
I'm gonna play some videogames for like, an hour. Maybe two.
When I come back a bunch of people will have checked the thread because they had a weird feeling about the deadline being tonight instead of tomorrow and they'll consolidate votes and we can assess our options.
My legacy is, uh.
Wisp still town. Probably.
Grape is ~probably a villager for bunches of reasons that I find compelling but apparently aren't that compelling or something.
Chris is probably town, there's just too much extra... stuff. Wolf!Chris probably doesn't accidentally box himself in with town reads so that I'm the only person he can try to push as an actual mislunch. He probably doesn't spend most of the day fearmongering paranoia about me because he has to shoot me sooner or later. I'm a rather unstable pocket later in the game and he needs a reason to still be alive. I dunno it just seems unlikely.
Tubba is probably town but I wish he would actually, like, get involved a bit more. Post baseless speculation and then read how the thread flows around it, that's what everyone else is doing!
Rodemy is probably town based on Will's posts and LnGrrr interactions if nothing else.
Vaimes is ehhhhh. The posts he's made are pretty villagery. Very villagery, even. But he's not posting and the less he posts the more I want him dead. Meh.
I still do not understand why people are clearing Rhand. He's probably a wolf in Vaimes!town worlds and the fact Vaimes was the first one to try to clear him for LnGrrr interacts is uh. Weird. If Rhand is a villager Vaimes is ~probably a wolf from that votecount I colored a bunch (unless Rodemy/Will is somehow).
Cantrip reads like a villager but he might be a wolf in a very convincing disguise.
shadow reads like a wolf but he might be a sheep in wolves clothing.
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I *did* see the post from Will. Iirc, it came shortly after Silver's and Shadow's mostly naked votes on LnG, and that's what I initially thought both of them were doing: noticing that LnG had been on Tom since forever. So when I got to Will's post, it felt like he was just explaining something that others had already highlighted, but maybe not. 😐
I guess I'll vote pretty much any of Chris, Rod, Shadow, and Rhand (on order of preference) to avoid a no lunch.
Feel free to rank those choices if you'd like, but unless Vaimes or someone randomly shows up while V/LA shadow isn't happening. Unfortunately.
Strongly prefer shadow of the current options but yeah I'll vote to secure a lunch.
##vote: Rhand
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shadowlancerx (4) - Rhand (#1294), Silvercrys3467 (#1329), Cantripmancer (#1439), Lastwhisper (#1450)
Rhand (3) - Grapefruit21 (#1055), Rodemy (#1255), Sir Chris (#1463)
Rodemy (2) - Vaimes (#1058), shadowlancer (#1421)
Not Voting: Tubba Fett
With 10 alive, it's 6 to lynch!
Deadline is Sunday, June 28 at midnight PST, in about 3.5 hours.
V/LA: Vaimes through the week, Rod to Monday, Cantrip to deadline probably
@Silver: fwiw, I was on Lng the same time Tom was early game and moved off to go pursue Chris, coming back when that didn’t pan out. This is in reference to your post earlier about not remembering when I first pushed Lng.
Vote Rhand
What’s up with your Rodemy vote? You voted to consolidate and because you don’t like his approach to accruing votes, and it doesn’t seem like you’ve looked back or probed it at all.
It’s just if you thought you had a hit why aren’t you trying to convince anyone else?
Unvote
Still like an answer though.
Actually this wagon movement is way better than D1 was, people actually care about shadow vs Rhand apparently.
Still want shadow but we need Chris's help.
Help me obi-wan chrisobi, you're my only hope.
If Chris is dead set against shadow we'll have to settle for Rhand, I suppose.
I'm not super sure that isn't distancing though.
Ehhhh.
Like Rhand is ~fine I guess but. I maybe I just want you to be a wolf.
Rhand at least is half dead and my town read on him is based on iffy stuff that I usually go "oh god damnit Chris, you town cleared a bit much"
If rhand is not scum... I have big problems this game I think.
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vote: Rhand
Hey tubba, you should vote shadow now. If you still want to lunch him, I mean.
vote: Rhand
...
Yeah pretty sure you did.
see you day 3, hopefully I eat the roleblock tonight again, so the PRs have free reign
Rhand (6) - Grapefruit21 (#1055), Rodemy (#1255), Sir Chris (#1463), shadowlancerx (#1465), Silvercrys3467 (#1477), Lastwhisper (#1478)
shadowlancerx (2) - Rhand (#1294), Cantripmancer (#1439),
Rodemy (1) - Vaimes (#1058)
Not Voting: Tubba Fett
That's a Lynch! Lynch scene on it's way!
This is not going to be my game if that's the case.
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The group of crazed hooligans draws closer.
"IT'S HIM! HE'S ONE OF THEM!" can be heard from among the group, which slowly begins to engulf Rhand. The group decends.
When they recede, Rhand is dead.
He was Phineas Plum, Town Vanilla.
A prominent professor of Philosophy, Professor Phineas Plum is an artifact of a bygone age. Bespectacled with a signature Tweed jacket and bow tie, you fit the bill of stereotypical college professor.
Your students would never guess that you used to be one of this hell-raising hippies from back when.
Night Action: You have no night actions.
It is now Night 2. Day 3 will start in 48 hours.
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vote shadow
Lying large pool of blood, with a massive head wound, a gash in the neck, and clutching a gun is Silvercrys3467. He was Melissa Mustard, Town JOAT.
You are a retired captain in the NYPD.. You served your time well, and are proud to have served. Sometimes you miss serving though. Your skinny blonde frame tenders to throw people off as they get to know the tough, no-nonsense woman underneath.
You still have your old cop implements from your time on the force: Your trusty gun (you only brought one bullet though), a pair of radios, and some blue talc powder you used to use for grip.
Night Actions: At Night, you can:
Lying next to Silver is shadowlancerx. He was shot in the chest. He was Randall Redding, Nexus Goon.
You’re a retired postal worker who spends his days doing crosswords to pass the time. Occasionally you walk to the dog park to feed the pigeons. Life’s kinda boring for you, honestly.
You yearn for the sense of purpose The Job brought you. Maybe you'll take up some dangerous sport, like archery or bowling.
You “retired.” They forced your retirement because some guys drugs went missing on your watch. And you called in sick the next day. That was a coincidence. You wanted revenge.
Night Actions: You may perform the kill for your team. Members with additional abilities cannot also perform the kill unless they are the only ones left alive.
Most of you are shaken by all the gore, but you still have work to do.
It is now Day 3. With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
Btw, deadline I think Will be in 10ish days? Let's say 11:59pm August 10
I should never waver from rule of 3 apparently lol.
Got to say, not used to being carried through a game but after all of the times I've done it, I guess I'll take it.
3 shots with 6 bodies.
I will have to re-read again but Vezok, Cantripmancer, Wisp, Rodemy (Will really) all have good town cases. It should be interesting what Cantripmancer makes of my interactions with shadow lol <_<
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I hate that btw. I know my own meta, I know my blindspots that I have to adjust for to find scum when I tend to see the good in people but I still lynch wrong. So annoying.
Trust. Your. Reads. Christopher.
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I will read the game this week and come back with who I think is the last scum.
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This is where I'm at.
Wisp/Rumanshi
Tubba
vezok/Grape
Rodemy/Will
Vaimes/Shinichi
Sir Chris
But I want to do some review, especially of Shadow, before pushing anywhere. I think he's usually pretty good at avoiding bad interactions with buddies/good at manufacturing interactions with town, but it's still worth the time.
Any thoughts on Silver's legacy, specifically the last part:
I have some thoughts, but I'm not sure they completely make sense, so I don't want to preclude anyone else's ideas.
We have two lunches to get this right; let's make good use of them.
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gunna start off here, too much self-awareness in his first two posts coming into today, I hate it
we also could've had shadow yesterday, it's a good thing that Silver knows how to properly use the vigilante role
I don't get what I am supposed to be looking for in his role card though, I am assuming he breadcrumbed his watch, or the neighborize
I gotta go back and look at both his posts and shadows