Lol, I don't care if you say it, you weren't in our chat. I mean, it is just as much your idea as mine. It actually makes me feel a lot better about it knowing you reached the same conclusion completely independently
Nah it's ******* Proph, I've been **** mechanics all day and night, but like his ability is so damn wolfy, it's literally meant to cause chaos, and idk why the hell he full claimed it
My vote is on Proph
Asta probably not a wolf here
DK probably always his partner
Last wolf is almost always in silver/fulcrum I think
Silver hard defends Proph on the fact that he can't be the Vigi, honestly that's been almost all of Silvers thoughts, focusing on who the vigilante and who the hell the wolf is out of the roleblockers/busdrivers
The other world here is fulcrum, and that's only because of how he handled Rhand when it really mattered, and of course the roleblock night 1
I'm trying to figure out a team that makes sense outside DK/Silver, just in case we really are missing something, fulcrum obviously, but like idk who else?
Proph seems to be talking like it's a 2shot, which, regardless, it's obviously very limited shots since he hasn't been dropping them. -Shadow using one a couple days into a 2 week long D1, no claims yet, no substantial wagons, not much to even analyze.
I don't understand it with what Proph has claimed. Just, blinding using up his limited shots with a role that, if true, would clearly require careful planning and coordinating to do anything.
We haven't paid much attention to this, since shadow isn't here to explain, but I can't even picture an explanation he could give that I'd feel good about
dont really think its Asta, so like if its not DK?
the only thing that really makes sense is probably Silver/Fulcrum?
but I'm not worried about that yet
dont really think its Asta, so like if its not DK?
the only thing that really makes sense is probably Silver/Fulcrum?
but I'm not worried about that yet
I'd go Asta over fulcrum if it's not exactly silver/Proph/dk. But it probably doesn't even get to that
dont really think its Asta, so like if its not DK?
the only thing that really makes sense is probably Silver/Fulcrum?
but I'm not worried about that yet
I'd go Asta over fulcrum if it's not exactly silver/Proph/dk. But it probably doesn't even get to that
ya I dont think we get there, but obviously I will make sure to be thorough with my thoughts before I do anything
ya I dont think we get there, but obviously I will make sure to be thorough with my thoughts before I do anything
Okay, now, can we discuss post 61 of our friendly chat a bit? Which, I wish now we had talked about that more.
Because Ive been thinking about it, and assuming I'm right, which I'm not seeing anything here to make me doubt that at all, should that change what we're doing here?
Like, say Proph flips scum, and think about how that plays out. That's probably not ideal
Should we actively be doing post 78? Or that with fulcrum or Asta even, like the outer edges of POE?
KCC’s wagon is still reading weirdly full of town to me. It should be noted that if I were on a team with KCC I would have had NO reason to announce my double votes. Honestly if I were scum I probably would have tried to hide them for a full cycle or only deploy them when we were in better need of a lynch or in a lylo and try to say they didn’t activate until spring came back around since I wasn’t gonna have em for the first spring anyways.
Tom and Vezok are confirmed town, I know I’m town. I want DK to be town since I got a mod confirm that he’s protecting me from death. Killjoy and Last have been solvy and seem towny, even if pretty continually at odds? I actually wonder if scum have kinda tried to avoid shooting folks on KCC’s wagon to avoid confirming too many of them? Wild, baseless speculation there. Scum shots have been weird.
There’s the whole neighbor chat but it seems weird to have 2 masons confirmed as town and 3 others have town confirm. I just don’t entirely trust it.
Her efforts since then with roleblocking seem… fine? I dunno how much she’s helped or hurt town with what she’s done, really. Hard to read that, but maybe there’s value there.
I honestly don’t feel great about her and feel like she could be an easy late game mislynch for lylo even if she is town, so I dunno. Seems less than great as far as situations go.
Asta, if you don't feel great about KCC and you think that she can be a "easy late game mislynch for lylo if she is town", then why are you not spending your limited time getting a better read on her? And if you think that I am mafia - do you think KCC is also mafia? What does "seems less than great as far as situations go" actually mean?
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If you aren't scum, I don't understand anything in this game.
I don't think silver/Asta/dk works. I don't believe fulcrum is scum. It's slightly odd if scumYou orbs Axel N1 knowing I was bouncing your target, but fulcrum playing that game with a NK is nonsense.
Scum3 would need to be, like, Vaimes? But I'm really not seeing that, definitely never voting him over you
I also don't think that Vaimes is scum.
Can you go into more depth as to why you think fulcrum is town besides "I don't think she shoots Axel if she's in our neighborhood"? I know that she's posted a lot Today but can you pull up specific posts or something and tell me why you think that makes her town?
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Man, I know it was a couple years ago, but think back to the last two days of Iji 2. Proph had me dead to rights and came around on you. He was RELENTLESS in his efforts to get me lynched. He had post after post citing evidence, contradictions, interactions, etc, and he got heated when no one listened. That is how town!Proph approaches a game; he's meticulous, takes detailed notes, and is never disengaged.
I dunno bro; think I've done a decent job of convincing people to lynch in between us Today and as of last votecount you had the most votes.
I spent a fair amount of time railing on you earlier in the game then I backed off once you had some mechanical confirmation of your role. However, I don't think the game makes sense with you as town now that we have all of these flips, so I'm just ignoring mechanics at the moment and I'm focusing solely on behavior, of which yours is particularly awful.
How the heck am I OMGUSing my scumreads? fulcrum's been the only person consistently pushing me; you and Asta shifted sights to me as soon as I started pushing you guys.
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Okay. So are you gonna give me the blue orb, or not?
@KCC
I don't see why we need to discuss that? the optimal play here is always hitting a wolf, regardless of what my ability may or may not do
in a town!KCC world, in my personal opinion, the best option given your active ability tonight is swapped your wolf read, with someone you think is likely to die, if that even works like that, which idk why it shouldnt?
else swap the person you think is more likely to die, with someone you want to remove from the PoE if anything
Discussing possible options just leads to them being able to avoid it
dont really think its Asta, so like if its not DK?
the only thing that really makes sense is probably Silver/Fulcrum?
but I'm not worried about that yet
I'd go Asta over fulcrum if it's not exactly silver/Proph/dk. But it probably doesn't even get to that
ya I dont think we get there, but obviously I will make sure to be thorough with my thoughts before I do anything
Reread Rhand and tell me you really think he wasn't trying to buddy me with a straight face, and I did pretty much the same thing with mechanics in Arkham when the heist happened, made a bunch of mechanical dichotomies and damn near solved the game off of them
And how do you even think Dkings is a wolf if Asta isn't, you think Dkings is actually a bodyguard like Asta confirmed and also that there are no non-wolf kills in the set up? Even if Gemma was a full vig (basically zero chance) that wouldn't justify giving wolves Proph's bulletproof orbs *and* a bodyguard *and* a back up? That's a silly amount of redundancy and protection for one vig that usually shoots town anyway
Wolves *need* a manipulative role, you can't give town a bunch of stuff and not give wolves a way to reliably interfere with it
That's awful design and D_V is a pretty good designer
Could Dkings be hiding some manipulation in his claim?
Sure, he only claimed a summer ability and so far no one has had a role like that
But at the same time *someone* targeted Asta with a Summer ability on N1 and faking the BG with a message of some kind on the *town double voter* is a super risky proposition since they can't ever kill him to take his role off the table or else it outs dkings
So yeah, screw it, Dkings is a bodyguard and therefore almost definitely town, especially if Proph is a wolf and he true claimed the blue orb power
We lunch Proph toDay and if he flips town we murder KCC
If he's a wolf I don't even know where to go from there, probably Asta I guess and then last wolf is in [fulcrum/Vaimes/KCC]?
Like I really don't understand what you're doing here, Proph.
You have the opportunity to help protect someone who can get an alignment check, someone who isn't fulcrum, unless you think we're scum together? And after admitting that you didn't even really care about your Night action, why is your first move as town not something like "oh my bad, I can still give out an orb during the Day, here you go."
Was planning on giving it near EoD so that I could wine the scum a little but sure, this is fine.
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Bro, I really need you to get to town on me and talk to me if you're town, because this isn't working. You think I'm mafia because of Keldeo's flip? But you also think KCC is town and I voted Keldeo in response to the wagon on her. That read doesn't make sense. And with Rhand, you what, think scum!me pushed him so other people would want to kill him and then didn't even vote to get credit? You know me better than that.
I don't get why you think I need to be scum over silver and kcc.
I think that you're mafia because Keldeo claimed to roleblock you N1 and there wasn't a kill. The missing kill has never been really explained and I think that Keldeo blocking you performing the NK is the simplest explanation according to the razor. I've explained this already - this fact is why I think you're mafia over Silver or KCC, both of which don't have night actions incriminating them.
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I couldn't tell you why Proph targeted the people he targeted, and what he hopes to achieve that way.
N1 I targeted Axel with a yellow orb because I wanted to confirm KCC's claimed busdrive action.
N2 I targeted dkings because he was a scumread of mine and I wanted to hamper his actions.
N3 I targeted KJ with an orange orb because I wanted him to be affected by the positive effects of the blue and yellow orbs.
N4 I targeted Silver because he had a targeting ability and can doc anybody else with a blue or orange orb.
Does this make more sense?
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Nah it's ******* Proph, I've been **** mechanics all day and night, but like his ability is so damn wolfy, it's literally meant to cause chaos, and idk why the hell he full claimed it
Dude, I'm not scum. Listen to me.
If you think dk is my partner, then why don't you keep your vote on him? Why do you think my role is "wolfy"? I literally full claimed it because there were a lot of questions about my role and I was a huge question mark at the time.
Like I said I think KCC is more likely to be the wolf manipulative
Don't you mean you think we're both the wolf manipulative? -Because if you think it's me and not Proph... you shouldn't vote proph there?
I think your role is more likely the wolf primary manipulative than his
But (1) maybe I'm wrong anyway, and (2) I'm certainly not getting a lunch on you with the available time I have to play and a bunch of people soft defending you while not really saying why they think you're town just that they do, and (3) as you say, just because one of you is a wolf doesn't mean the other is town, but at least one of you is a wolf 100%
Proph, you think there's *another* manipulative (Dkings) in the set up on top of you/Vaimes/KCC/tom/Keldeo? That's like 25% of the roles in this game do a role block of some kind...
In his role, yes, but in the set up? 6 variant roleblocker/redirectors is like ~33% of the roles...
Someone redirected Vaimes on N2 though, right? Did I misread that somewhere?
I'm weirded out by the bodyguard thing though, it doesn't make sense on a wolf in the set up and someone targeted Asta on N1 and tom had no abilities with every thing else accounted for, pretty sure?
I do not want to lynch you here if you are town
there are bits and pieces of towniness here and there from you, and so little reasons to think your a wolf, based on your actual posts
flip this first
vote: DK
but I refuse to say DK flipping red here means absolutely anything in terms of your alignment
Like I trust Vaimes, but that doesnt mean he is right...
and I dont super trust fulcrum right now which is a problem
but DK just fits in more worlds and he is more wolfy than Proph (if I ignore mechanics)
but I refuse to say DK flipping red here means absolutely anything in terms of your alignment
That's fine, but there's no reason why dkings should be lynched over me if you think we are both scum.
If you think dk is my partner, then why don't you keep your vote on him?
what do you want from me honestly? am I saying him flipping red, doesn't make you town, it's just that I am getting paranoid over your alignment
so i wanna flip him first cause I want more time with you, and I think post-wise he is more likely to flip wolf
Why do you think my role is "wolfy"?
I misread your role, I thought you had a busdrive portion to it, so my point is pretty much moot (which I realized after just rereading it now)
you protect, you roleblock, and you give role information (its not really wolfy at all)
@Proph
can you please talk to me about whats happening here if DK flips town?
If both DK/Asta are town? like I know you dont believe it, but please?
Like I really need someone to bounce my thoughts off of, even if you dont believe it
ya I dont think we get there, but obviously I will make sure to be thorough with my thoughts before I do anything
Okay, now, can we discuss post 61 of our friendly chat a bit? Which, I wish now we had talked about that more.
Because Ive been thinking about it, and assuming I'm right, which I'm not seeing anything here to make me doubt that at all, should that change what we're doing here?
Like, say Proph flips scum, and think about how that plays out. That's probably not ideal
Should we actively be doing post 78? Or that with fulcrum or Asta even, like the outer edges of POE?
We're at even numbers, so 61 happening with proph isn't /that/ bad outside of losing the clear from Vaimes. Not worth 78 over it.
Bro, I really need you to get to town on me and talk to me if you're town, because this isn't working. You think I'm mafia because of Keldeo's flip? But you also think KCC is town and I voted Keldeo in response to the wagon on her. That read doesn't make sense. And with Rhand, you what, think scum!me pushed him so other people would want to kill him and then didn't even vote to get credit? You know me better than that.
I don't get why you think I need to be scum over silver and kcc.
I think that you're mafia because Keldeo claimed to roleblock you N1 and there wasn't a kill. The missing kill has never been really explained and I think that Keldeo blocking you performing the NK is the simplest explanation according to the razor. I've explained this already - this fact is why I think you're mafia over Silver or KCC, both of which don't have night actions incriminating them.
There are like a billion other explanations, along with a ton of other unexplained things is this complex af game, and I'm the one role that actually gets alignment checks, so forgive me if I think you tunneling on this is just scum!you reaching for something to push. It's not something I can even argue against, but that's just not what caused the no kill N1.
Wait, there is an angle to argue against it. If I was a wolf and carried the kill on a night it didn't go through, wouldn't my team have distanced from me and tried to bus me a bit the next Day? But Rhand was townreading me before he died.
Like I trust Vaimes, but that doesnt mean he is right...
and I dont super trust fulcrum right now which is a problem
but DK just fits in more worlds and he is more wolfy than Proph (if I ignore mechanics)
Man, I know it was a couple years ago, but think back to the last two days of Iji 2. Proph had me dead to rights and came around on you. He was RELENTLESS in his efforts to get me lynched. He had post after post citing evidence, contradictions, interactions, etc, and he got heated when no one listened. That is how town!Proph approaches a game; he's meticulous, takes detailed notes, and is never disengaged.
I dunno bro; think I've done a decent job of convincing people to lynch in between us Today and as of last votecount you had the most votes.
I spent a fair amount of time railing on you earlier in the game then I backed off once you had some mechanical confirmation of your role. However, I don't think the game makes sense with you as town now that we have all of these flips, so I'm just ignoring mechanics at the moment and I'm focusing solely on behavior, of which yours is particularly awful.
How the heck am I OMGUSing my scumreads? fulcrum's been the only person consistently pushing me; you and Asta shifted sights to me as soon as I started pushing you guys.
Literally, you reason for pushing on me is just mechanics.
KCC, I don't want to kill outside of Proph, dk and silver, I don't think it's worth it to avoid them and hurt our position, even with the ability Tonight.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Stop publicly referring to QT posts by number as if it’s a secret code there is literally no point except to make one of us ask “hey wanna clue us in!!!”
Can you go into more depth as to why you think fulcrum is town besides "I don't think she shoots Axel if she's in our neighborhood"? I know that she's posted a lot Today but can you pull up specific posts or something and tell me why you think that makes her town?
Posts from the game thread? No, I'm actually pretty uneasy about some of Rhands interactions with her.
But from our chat? We discussed at length who I should protect, and why KJ and Vez weren't great targets despite being confirmed town. I said, point blank, I was guarding Axel and Vaimes, and talked a bit about why I thought Vaimes was better for the Winter Trap, since I thought he'd be more likely a later kill than an immediate one. So, for fulcrum to know I had busdrive protection on Axel, and then fire there anyway, when there were other good targets open, I don't see it. In one shot, that'd confirm me, confirm axel, and either take out a scum or someone in POE.
Plus, we have most of fulcrums role and it makes no sense on scum.
Last: That's all I want from you. I want you to listen to me and vote my scumreads.
If dk/Asta are town then that means that the wolves are in like. Silver/KCC/fulcrum/Killjoy? Which means that it's likely that both of that hypothetical scumteam were just playacting in the friendly chat of yours? Or Silver set up the bus of a lifetime against Rhand?
Silver voting me for essentially a non-reason (?) does flare up my paranoia a bit, though I keep going back to the Rhand interactions and it's still kind of hard for me to see him as scum.
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Yeah but what was the plan? Stop you from protecting Killjoy and then give Killjoy an orange orb anyway after he got roleblocked? I guess burning a day use to give you a green orb is way less defensible and is probably why he hasn't used any more of his day shots yet...
Yeah that makes as much as sense as anything else I guess
vote: Prophylaxis (L-1)
If he's town I am 100% flipping KCC toMorrow though
Like, not really sure what Silver means here.
If dk is a wolf and Asta is town.. it gets real weird. We're talking about dk being a loud mafia bodyguard that successfully protected Asta N1?
Lol, I don't care if you say it, you weren't in our chat. I mean, it is just as much your idea as mine. It actually makes me feel a lot better about it knowing you reached the same conclusion completely independently
In which case, you know what, you guys should win
My vote is on Proph
Asta probably not a wolf here
DK probably always his partner
Last wolf is almost always in silver/fulcrum I think
{Proph/DK/Silver}
I think it's just auto if we go through that PoE
I'm trying to figure out a team that makes sense outside DK/Silver, just in case we really are missing something, fulcrum obviously, but like idk who else?
the only thing that really makes sense is probably Silver/Fulcrum?
but I'm not worried about that yet
He said he was probably gonna claim toDay based on his Silver feelings but I don't think anything ever came of that.
Still leaning towards him being neutral, and that could get hairy if we miss anytime soon.
I'd go Asta over fulcrum if it's not exactly silver/Proph/dk. But it probably doesn't even get to that
Okay, now, can we discuss post 61 of our friendly chat a bit? Which, I wish now we had talked about that more.
Because Ive been thinking about it, and assuming I'm right, which I'm not seeing anything here to make me doubt that at all, should that change what we're doing here?
Like, say Proph flips scum, and think about how that plays out. That's probably not ideal
Should we actively be doing post 78? Or that with fulcrum or Asta even, like the outer edges of POE?
Like I said I think KCC is more likely to be the wolf manipulative but not thinking Proph has the day kill doesn't mean I think he's town lmao
Don't you mean you think we're both the wolf manipulative? -Because if you think it's me and not Proph... you shouldn't vote proph there?
I also don't think that Vaimes is scum.
Can you go into more depth as to why you think fulcrum is town besides "I don't think she shoots Axel if she's in our neighborhood"? I know that she's posted a lot Today but can you pull up specific posts or something and tell me why you think that makes her town?
I dunno bro; think I've done a decent job of convincing people to lynch in between us Today and as of last votecount you had the most votes.
I spent a fair amount of time railing on you earlier in the game then I backed off once you had some mechanical confirmation of your role. However, I don't think the game makes sense with you as town now that we have all of these flips, so I'm just ignoring mechanics at the moment and I'm focusing solely on behavior, of which yours is particularly awful.
How the heck am I OMGUSing my scumreads? fulcrum's been the only person consistently pushing me; you and Asta shifted sights to me as soon as I started pushing you guys.
Sure.
Have a present.
I don't see why we need to discuss that? the optimal play here is always hitting a wolf, regardless of what my ability may or may not do
in a town!KCC world, in my personal opinion, the best option given your active ability tonight is swapped your wolf read, with someone you think is likely to die, if that even works like that, which idk why it shouldnt?
else swap the person you think is more likely to die, with someone you want to remove from the PoE if anything
Discussing possible options just leads to them being able to avoid it
@Silver
ok?
And how do you even think Dkings is a wolf if Asta isn't, you think Dkings is actually a bodyguard like Asta confirmed and also that there are no non-wolf kills in the set up? Even if Gemma was a full vig (basically zero chance) that wouldn't justify giving wolves Proph's bulletproof orbs *and* a bodyguard *and* a back up? That's a silly amount of redundancy and protection for one vig that usually shoots town anyway
Wolves *need* a manipulative role, you can't give town a bunch of stuff and not give wolves a way to reliably interfere with it
That's awful design and D_V is a pretty good designer
Could Dkings be hiding some manipulation in his claim?
Sure, he only claimed a summer ability and so far no one has had a role like that
But at the same time *someone* targeted Asta with a Summer ability on N1 and faking the BG with a message of some kind on the *town double voter* is a super risky proposition since they can't ever kill him to take his role off the table or else it outs dkings
So yeah, screw it, Dkings is a bodyguard and therefore almost definitely town, especially if Proph is a wolf and he true claimed the blue orb power
We lunch Proph toDay and if he flips town we murder KCC
If he's a wolf I don't even know where to go from there, probably Asta I guess and then last wolf is in [fulcrum/Vaimes/KCC]?
Proph is enough for now, though
I think that you're mafia because Keldeo claimed to roleblock you N1 and there wasn't a kill. The missing kill has never been really explained and I think that Keldeo blocking you performing the NK is the simplest explanation according to the razor. I've explained this already - this fact is why I think you're mafia over Silver or KCC, both of which don't have night actions incriminating them.
N1 I targeted Axel with a yellow orb because I wanted to confirm KCC's claimed busdrive action.
N2 I targeted dkings because he was a scumread of mine and I wanted to hamper his actions.
N3 I targeted KJ with an orange orb because I wanted him to be affected by the positive effects of the blue and yellow orbs.
N4 I targeted Silver because he had a targeting ability and can doc anybody else with a blue or orange orb.
Does this make more sense?
Dude, I'm not scum. Listen to me.
If you think dk is my partner, then why don't you keep your vote on him? Why do you think my role is "wolfy"? I literally full claimed it because there were a lot of questions about my role and I was a huge question mark at the time.
But (1) maybe I'm wrong anyway, and (2) I'm certainly not getting a lunch on you with the available time I have to play and a bunch of people soft defending you while not really saying why they think you're town just that they do, and (3) as you say, just because one of you is a wolf doesn't mean the other is town, but at least one of you is a wolf 100%
Team is always fulcrum/Asta/dkings here.
I think Vaimes and KCC are town.
tom and Keldeo flipped town.
Think there's totally room for something else in his claimed role besides being a bodyguard.
Someone redirected Vaimes on N2 though, right? Did I misread that somewhere?
I'm weirded out by the bodyguard thing though, it doesn't make sense on a wolf in the set up and someone targeted Asta on N1 and tom had no abilities with every thing else accounted for, pretty sure?
I do not want to lynch you here if you are town
there are bits and pieces of towniness here and there from you, and so little reasons to think your a wolf, based on your actual posts
flip this first
vote: DK
but I refuse to say DK flipping red here means absolutely anything in terms of your alignment
and I dont super trust fulcrum right now which is a problem
but DK just fits in more worlds and he is more wolfy than Proph (if I ignore mechanics)
what do you want from me honestly? am I saying him flipping red, doesn't make you town, it's just that I am getting paranoid over your alignment
so i wanna flip him first cause I want more time with you, and I think post-wise he is more likely to flip wolf
I misread your role, I thought you had a busdrive portion to it, so my point is pretty much moot (which I realized after just rereading it now)
you protect, you roleblock, and you give role information (its not really wolfy at all)
can you please talk to me about whats happening here if DK flips town?
If both DK/Asta are town? like I know you dont believe it, but please?
Like I really need someone to bounce my thoughts off of, even if you dont believe it
like in that world for me it's like {Fulcrum/Silver, DK, KCC}
I am going to sleep
I think that's the only team that makes sense, if DK/Asta are both town...
Buts it's doubtful we get a cfd on anyone outside KCC, and even that is unlikely given how all over the place town is, in that world
We're at even numbers, so 61 happening with proph isn't /that/ bad outside of losing the clear from Vaimes. Not worth 78 over it.
There are like a billion other explanations, along with a ton of other unexplained things is this complex af game, and I'm the one role that actually gets alignment checks, so forgive me if I think you tunneling on this is just scum!you reaching for something to push. It's not something I can even argue against, but that's just not what caused the no kill N1.
Can you point me to where you talked about KCC being town, I want to look at it again.
Bruh.
Literally, you reason for pushing on me is just mechanics.
But. @Vaimes: I happen to believe so.
Like, the three of you + Vaimes have been calling me a wolf all phase and you're apparently hiding another ability now??
But I'm supposed to just trust you when I know your PoE is wrong and you're basically talking in code
Nah **** that lmao
I don't even think Proph/Dkings are bussing each other right now
But from our chat? We discussed at length who I should protect, and why KJ and Vez weren't great targets despite being confirmed town. I said, point blank, I was guarding Axel and Vaimes, and talked a bit about why I thought Vaimes was better for the Winter Trap, since I thought he'd be more likely a later kill than an immediate one. So, for fulcrum to know I had busdrive protection on Axel, and then fire there anyway, when there were other good targets open, I don't see it. In one shot, that'd confirm me, confirm axel, and either take out a scum or someone in POE.
Plus, we have most of fulcrums role and it makes no sense on scum.
Are we playing the same game? CFDKCC has pretty much been the theme here
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Okay, but I really think we should
If dk/Asta are town then that means that the wolves are in like. Silver/KCC/fulcrum/Killjoy? Which means that it's likely that both of that hypothetical scumteam were just playacting in the friendly chat of yours? Or Silver set up the bus of a lifetime against Rhand?
Silver voting me for essentially a non-reason (?) does flare up my paranoia a bit, though I keep going back to the Rhand interactions and it's still kind of hard for me to see him as scum.
Like, not really sure what Silver means here.
If dk is a wolf and Asta is town.. it gets real weird. We're talking about dk being a loud mafia bodyguard that successfully protected Asta N1?