KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
It would be some kind of irony if it went back to KCC after all this. She was going to be the lynch before anyone claimed anything....
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I liked Kitty's last post and the posts leading up to it as much as I did simply because it fits the mindset I was struggling to understand easier so well; finally reached the point where it looks like she's 100% going to die, and that's when she posts the readslist that people were asking for long ago and, if scum, she could have done so long ago to get people off her back. I don't see a world where Kitty could produce this whole time but decided to keep it in her back pocket until the last possible second.
There are also genuine bits here and there, but that's the gist. Also linking a countdown to deadline below for convenience's sake since people seem to be miscalculating:
the poignant part re: kitty, or the part that pushes me over the edge with regards to her is the idea that 1640 exists. at that point there was basically a 0% chance that kitty thought that she was surviving the day so the fact that she made a larger effort than she did all game to assess reads and make her feelings transparent means that she either has the "never give up as scum" gene (which is very rare as far as I can tell) or she's town.
there's also a number of moments that rang pretty true to me, especially with regards to the "it sucks no one knows that this ISN'T HOW I PLAY" or the "it's okay, I'll just complain about it in spec chat" bits, there's her thinking about how to use her ridiculous roleblock in a pro-town way which is an exceptional touch if scum but again it's waiting until she's basically 100% doomed to bring it out, doesn't make sense from a scum perspective.
the readslist is important because kcc was basically dead at that point unless you think that she could have predicted this particular situation unfolding or that she thought there was a particularly large chance of it, which i very heavily doubt was the case.
the readslist is important because kcc was basically dead at that point unless you think that she could have predicted this particular situation unfolding or that she thought there was a particularly large chance of it, which i very heavily doubt was the case.
It’s nice, but leaving a list before death is pretty standard imo
not like she just posted a low effort rainbow - i'd wager she spent more time and brain cells making that than she did on any other posts she made.
which again is really weird if she thought she was dead.
like when scum is CC'd and it becomes patently obvious they are ****ed, they stop posting. they don't continue to add to their narrative and reveal little slips of what they were thinking of doing in the future with their night actions, don't think that they start playing better than they have the entire game - feel it's much more likely that she was transparent because she thought she was dead and this was the last thing she'd be doing in the game before she went
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
It would be some kind of irony if it went back to KCC after all this. She was going to be the lynch before anyone claimed anything....
Why do you not want to lynch her again?
Well, I liked her post-claim posts.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
It would be some kind of irony if it went back to KCC after all this. She was going to be the lynch before anyone claimed anything....
Why do you not want to lynch her again?
Well, I liked her post-claim posts.
Enough to no lynch?
For me, No Lynch isn't the disaster Tom is making it sound like.
I do get the frustration of feeling like this day got wasted. But it's not completely wasted.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
I keep going back to KCC complaining about her play being hilariously out of her wolfrange in the Wall
which, lol self meta, and idk
It's a feeling you have for a reason + shruglynching does absolutely nothing for us here. No lynching is usually bad because you lose a mislynch and you lose information. We have more than enough information to sort through for tomorrow and we won't lose a mislynch here.
I keep going back to KCC complaining about her play being hilariously out of her wolfrange in the Wall
which, lol self meta, and idk
It's a feeling you have for a reason + shruglynching does absolutely nothing for us here. No lynching is usually bad because you lose a mislynch and you lose information. We have more than enough information to sort through for tomorrow and we won't lose a mislynch here.
than why the **** arent you sorting through it to tey to lynch scum?
I'm done. Crucify me for it if you will. But I'm not voting.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
It would be some kind of irony if it went back to KCC after all this. She was going to be the lynch before anyone claimed anything....
Why do you not want to lynch her again?
Well, I liked her post-claim posts.
Enough to no lynch?
For me, No Lynch isn't the disaster Tom is making it sound like.
I do get the frustration of feeling like this day got wasted. But it's not completely wasted.
This isn't a typical day 1.
Yes, there is conventional wisdom that says don't no lynch day 1. I've fought that battle on the opposite side many times. This isn't a typical day 1.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
With 16 Alive it takes 9 to Lynch
The Current Season is Summer
And KCC gets a bus drive if we no Lynch which, again, is the strongest of protective roles.
Not if I'm dead
KCC at L-2.
Can't use that fantastic role if she's dead though!
I agree.
Give a reason
Yes, so should we lynch the bodyguard, who I now think is likelier town, instead? Or no lynch and give up any chance of hitting scum today?
which, lol self meta, and idk
No Lynch. I don't think we have a very good chance of hitting scum at the moment.
I do get the frustration of feeling like this day got wasted. But it's not completely wasted.
It's a feeling you have for a reason + shruglynching does absolutely nothing for us here. No lynching is usually bad because you lose a mislynch and you lose information. We have more than enough information to sort through for tomorrow and we won't lose a mislynch here.
It's exactly 0.
Not giving a ***** isnt like you
Almost out of time and I kind of want to no lynch
I'm gonna hate myself later if KCC is mafia (no offense to you KCC you're great)
This isn't a typical day 1.
Yes, there is conventional wisdom that says don't no lynch day 1. I've fought that battle on the opposite side many times. This isn't a typical day 1.
What ability does KCC use tonight?
Idk they could be scum i dont think so but theyre both on acums side rn even if kcc is town
Ughhh
glgl tonight, I guess