ohh you were answering KJ's thought there woops
I think you could've argued it a lot better then by using "jailor" and JKer" one of which is probably made up
to argue that one doesnt exist because of naming conventions
no Jailor usually only stop kills and prevents the jailed from taking action
a Full jailor is more like a uhhmmmm Commuter I think, cause they stop all incoming and outgoing actions
Let's not have a hammer yet. We are still waiting for some D1 analyses (Axel's, KJ's, whoever else's) and maybe some catch-ups.
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Killjoy insists so much on his uncertainty it ends up sounding fake. "Look at me, I have so little inside info I can't follow the consensus", he essentially says.
Rhand gives me the same impression with Grape's """slip""".
Then Killjoy humourously "nah"d him, which is the opposite of what I would expect given his stance. Is Rhand ridiculous for saying Grape slipped by implying he expects Tubba to flip scum, or is Grape scummy(?) for only considering Tubba as possible scum in the "trichotomy"?
You can't have both. Make up your mind, Killjoy.
killjoy goldilocksing a fair amount actually.
Not a fan
I don't think Tubba did anything to suggest his protection/block was successful. shadow, to his credit, did poke at ZDS a bunch and immediately jumped on GJ's soft.
I don't see why bubba would out himself that quickly. Like i said, it feels like Shadows jump was scum taking an opportunity. I could be wrong but i like my gut on this one.
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@tom, talk to me about Jack, I feel like his reaction to today has been fairly townie, and his eod yesterday was as well.
what from today stuck with you?
I just checked his iso because all i remember is naked voting tubba. I dont care about his reaction at all
His initial reaction felt like a genuine “thinking out loud” post, then he follows up by solidifying his stance, it feels like real progression.
I don’t disagree on sloth, was just poking fun at the sports analogy.
@Rod: Tubba posts since the claim have been stiff. He’s not even coming close to faking the snark he whips out when he’s town. He isn’t expanding on thoughts, he’s not excited to have a dichotomy. He’s just a shadow (hah) of himself, going through the motions but fully aware he needs to not generate antialignments and bad interactions.
I dont think the specific claim makes a huge difference.
A watcher claimed to see two people on a night with no, their only* choice was jk or doc, and rhand had already (correctly) brought up why watcher+doc is an unlikely combo
(*technically could have claimed nothing to do with it or CCed johnny or something but all those options are terrible)
For the "breaking down" bit
I know how tubba plays. I dont think thats necessarily fair. He stayed about the same as usual.
But that in itself is a little awkward, how does this situation not inspire a bit more WIM?
But that question applies regardless of alignment so...
(Same with the opposite. Shadow is showing much more oomph since the claims... Which he would do as either alignment)
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The actual reactions.
Shadow was paying a great deal of attention to GJs soft and reacted immediately in thread (rather than right to scumchat to say gj was watcher and they gotta figure out doctor)
And that reaction was super genuine to me. And aggressive
Tubba wasnt there to react til later. Dunno about immediacy but his reaction does look like he read past it before posting. And he talked about the possibility of shadow being town.
Its... limp
"inspire a fair bit more WiM"
is definitely something I can get behind though
wolf!Shadow probably finds it easier to fake an aggressive tonal reaction to a possible CC
then wolf!Tubba probably does, so NAI for shadow, worse for Tubba
shower then off to do "essential" things that get me paid
For the "breaking down" bit
I know how tubba plays. I dont think thats necessarily fair. He stayed about the same as usual.
But that in itself is a little awkward, how does this situation not inspire a bit more WIM?
But that question applies regardless of alignment so...
Not specifically disagreeing with you, but you know Tubba as well or better than I do. You’ve seen him get feisty. He has that fire in him. If something was going to spark it, it would be this. Yet it didn’t, hence my assessment.
(I do have the benefit of knowing that Tubba is scum, but I think it is apparent regardless.)
how does town!Wisp react to Tom right now? ohh I know
ok boomer
i think townlast finds a way to condescendingly call me adorable and rolls his eyes
You were close though
I have only recently been using adorable, I don't see many situations where I would say it to you
you never come off as lost like some other players on this site
but sure, also I very rarely use the roll your eyes emote, so bite me
For the "breaking down" bit
I know how tubba plays. I dont think thats necessarily fair. He stayed about the same as usual.
But that in itself is a little awkward, how does this situation not inspire a bit more WIM?
But that question applies regardless of alignment so...
Not specifically disagreeing with you, but you know Tubba as well or better than I do. You’ve seen him get feisty. He has that fire in him. If something was going to spark it, it would be this. Yet it didn’t, hence my assessment.
(I do have the benefit of knowing that Tubba is scum, but I think it is apparent regardless.)
i mean yes, hes capable of that fire. I assume as both alignments?
Its certainly not happening here.
Its a <lack of> though, not a breakdown or some *****
how does town!Wisp react to Tom right now? ohh I know
ok boomer
i think townlast finds a way to condescendingly call me adorable and rolls his eyes
You were close though
I have only recently been using adorable, I don't see many situations where I would say it to you
you never come off as lost like some other players on this site
but sure, also I very rarely use the roll your eyes emote, so bite me
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Well I haven't voted because I promised to do a thing. I've been slightly de-motivated due to the bird in hand, and the anticipation that it's going to be a lot of time spent for not a whole lot of conclusions, but I'm still going to do it. Writing Tubba in as presumptive scum might actually help things along.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
so it's not because I'm not automatically discounting the idea that it's a dichotomy?
Its not a matter of you doing that, it’s how you’re doing it. You were unsure, then you seemed more sure that it was a dichotomy, then you were back to floating the possibility of two town jailers. You can’t seem to find the stance you want to take. Hence limp.
I think you could've argued it a lot better then by using "jailor" and JKer" one of which is probably made up
to argue that one doesnt exist because of naming conventions
JAILKEEP BLOCKS A WATCH
So How did johnny get a success on ZDS?
a Full jailor is more like a uhhmmmm Commuter I think, cause they stop all incoming and outgoing actions
*calms socks*
Such calm socks. Like kittens. Kitten Calming Socks.
Autocorrect does some crazy *****.
@Rod: what part of Tubba shutting down here seems like a town reaction?
Not a fan
Townsloth is good, tenacious, and yet still nimble
Scumsloth sucks, yields easily, and still doesnt progress
Thinks that's all you need
Which sloth is this?
Bubba doesn't appear to be shutting down to me? what makes YOU think he is "shutting down?"
I feel like shadow is more likely the scum in this situation than Tubba and I would bet some money that it's him and Vaimes considering this post:
I don't see why bubba would out himself that quickly. Like i said, it feels like Shadows jump was scum taking an opportunity. I could be wrong but i like my gut on this one.
I am not trying anything, this game is just not a priority right now
but I am also not trying to slank
where exactly do you see this?
I just checked his iso because all i remember is naked voting tubba. I dont care about his reaction at all
Tubba jailen ZDS, Shadow tries to NK. Failed. Tubba claims Jailer and then Shadow counterclaims the exact same role?
again, I take shadow as scum over TubbaFett
Just admit you are jealous tom <3
I don’t disagree on sloth, was just poking fun at the sports analogy.
@Rod: Tubba posts since the claim have been stiff. He’s not even coming close to faking the snark he whips out when he’s town. He isn’t expanding on thoughts, he’s not excited to have a dichotomy. He’s just a shadow (hah) of himself, going through the motions but fully aware he needs to not generate antialignments and bad interactions.
ya I don't really see it
how does town!Wisp react to Tom right now? ohh I know
ok boomer
I dont think the specific claim makes a huge difference.
A watcher claimed to see two people on a night with no, their only* choice was jk or doc, and rhand had already (correctly) brought up why watcher+doc is an unlikely combo
(*technically could have claimed nothing to do with it or CCed johnny or something but all those options are terrible)
For the "breaking down" bit
I know how tubba plays. I dont think thats necessarily fair. He stayed about the same as usual.
But that in itself is a little awkward, how does this situation not inspire a bit more WIM?
But that question applies regardless of alignment so...
(Same with the opposite. Shadow is showing much more oomph since the claims... Which he would do as either alignment)
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The actual reactions.
Shadow was paying a great deal of attention to GJs soft and reacted immediately in thread (rather than right to scumchat to say gj was watcher and they gotta figure out doctor)
And that reaction was super genuine to me. And aggressive
Tubba wasnt there to react til later. Dunno about immediacy but his reaction does look like he read past it before posting. And he talked about the possibility of shadow being town.
Its... limp
You were close though
is definitely something I can get behind though
wolf!Shadow probably finds it easier to fake an aggressive tonal reaction to a possible CC
then wolf!Tubba probably does, so NAI for shadow, worse for Tubba
shower then off to do "essential" things that get me paid
(I do have the benefit of knowing that Tubba is scum, but I think it is apparent regardless.)
you never come off as lost like some other players on this site
but sure, also I very rarely use the roll your eyes emote, so bite me
Its certainly not happening here.
Its a <lack of> though, not a breakdown or some *****
In an ideal world he keeps his mouth shut til youve both claimed but it probably wasnt scummy in that moment
(Also i meant an irl eyeroll)
But yes rod is who i was talking to lol
Hmm. Zds's progression is probably fine.
Shadow: why am I scum for this? Talk to me.
Just to clarify.
Didn’t say it makes you scum, I am saying my townread of you basically gone. I think your process today is limp.