Look, here is my argument against Sloth to anyone actually following this train wreck:
He is saying i am making sense. Which, if you look at that gambit i pulled, i kind of am not. (especially since it was pointed out that scum probably don't have the ability to give out the dark mark or else they would just upgrade themselves) Dark mark is an UPGRADE MECHANIC. It says so in the setup. I missed that so i said it didn't help me. It does. Just like anyone else. Why would it be called an upgrade mechanic and NOT help someone? That's more anti AXLE than anti-Sloth.
Sloth, thinks i am making sense (still wanna know what exactly you think is making sense to you).So i must be scum. he is making this into a thing i would do as scum, (because he would know, right? /sarcasm) It just feels like a fake push to get me lynched.
It's an easy way too because half the game agrees i am sporadic and mindless, so why not say I am making sense and try and rally against me due to some idea that i won't be able to recreate my town game. It's planned. No way he would really go from thinking i make sense to the "logically conclusion" that i am scum.
Ugh this is legit tiring.
I am listening to you, I just don't agree. I am watching the sloth now. He will not escape, no matter how slowly he moves.
It will be ok.
We will kill the woofs.
Join my coven.
the last coven you were in was scum. I'll pass.
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Axel: Yes, scum who saw that might be confused that the mark night be good for town. But for that to be true, none of the scum mark abilities would have to be bad. Scum! Rod would have more info than you're assuming he would have.
No he wouldn't?
I have no idea what you are trying to say here, except it seems like you're trying real hard to place it in a negative light.
You just said that you thought rod was scum based on his odd reaction to the mark. You actively, currently, have a reason to scum read him that's recent. That's "actively scum reading". The fact that you have that reason, but still wanted to say you're wagon jumping. That's my issue.
Where "actively" reading is something > completely random. There's a range there, which I think you are aware of.
Are you saying the scum read is super weak?
"super" weak? How about just weak? How about, worth a vote very early on D1?
Were you satisfied with his response?
Eh. He seems pretty aggravated. Might be genuine. I don't really know his range there. I see some people suggesting this is a Townie response from him. Maybe he's capable of faking that kind of indignation? His "I wouldn't do that as scum" argument wasn't great.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Look, here is my argument against Sloth to anyone actually following this train wreck:
He is saying i am making sense. Which, if you look at that gambit i pulled, i kind of am not. (especially since it was pointed out that scum probably don't have the ability to give out the dark mark or else they would just upgrade themselves) Dark mark is an UPGRADE MECHANIC. It says so in the setup. I missed that so i said it didn't help me. It does. Just like anyone else. Why would it be called an upgrade mechanic and NOT help someone? That's more anti AXLE than anti-Sloth.
Sloth, thinks i am making sense (still wanna know what exactly you think is making sense to you).So i must be scum. he is making this into a thing i would do as scum, (because he would know, right? /sarcasm) It just feels like a fake push to get me lynched.
It's an easy way too because half the game agrees i am sporadic and mindless, so why not say I am making sense and try and rally against me due to some idea that i won't be able to recreate my town game. It's planned. No way he would really go from thinking i make sense to the "logically conclusion" that i am scum.
Ugh this is legit tiring.
I am listening to you, I just don't agree. I am watching the sloth now. He will not escape, no matter how slowly he moves.
It will be ok.
We will kill the woofs.
Join my coven.
the last coven you were in was scum. I'll pass.
:/
Wait, are talking about this game or another game?
This is a pointless derail, I just feel like the game is too tense rn.
Sloth i have mentioned many times why i am voting you.
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What the hell am i saying that is "making sense" to you? I'd love to know what you agree with so much that you think i am scum for it.
Did I ask (again, cause you already replied once) why you're voting me? 'Cause I don't remember if so. Not sure why you're bringing that up again.
By "making sense" I mean you are/were playing carefully (which I did literally say in prior posts) and thinking ahead, whereas as Town I don't expect any of that from you and just see you throwing random ***** at the wall and getting fixated on less-than-valid things.
I admit you are doing more of that now, but doesn't make as much of a difference after the vote.
The rest of this post is white noise.
Ter has actively been working to solve this game from the get-go, which is a stark contrast to her play during tinyhunt. I don't know if that means she's scum here or if she's changed her play to avoid being mislynched by me again, but I don't hate what she's done so far.
**** it, I'm tired of trying to figure her out, someone else do it. Here have my Ter /shoves her on the rest of you.
I don't have enough info to form an opinion on Shadow, which is a concern more than it would be from other players.
Jack, I voted you for a reason - where did you go? Come back and interact damnit.
Tubba's low activity is common, but wasn't he more informative in prison? I seem to recall that. This is perhaps a bit more like he was in Matter.
tom's fine. I like the gifs.
Axel's not fine. His play has no bite and his movements are reactionary and delayed.
Everyone else I have even less of an opinion on at this point, or am watching carefully.
VOTE RODEMY btw.
Give me your reason for voting me then or is that it.
This popped off a lot more then I was expecting it to so need to do a full reread properly if anyone wants my thoughts anything ask, because while I back read I tend to to check for real time stuff also.
Axel: Yes, scum who saw that might be confused that the mark night be good for town. But for that to be true, none of the scum mark abilities would have to be bad. Scum! Rod would have more info than you're assuming he would have.
No he wouldn't?
I have no idea what you are trying to say here, except it seems like you're trying real hard to place it in a negative light.
You just said that you thought rod was scum based on his odd reaction to the mark. You actively, currently, have a reason to scum read him that's recent. That's "actively scum reading". The fact that you have that reason, but still wanted to say you're wagon jumping. That's my issue.
Where "actively" reading is something > completely random. There's a range there, which I think you are aware of.
Are you saying the scum read is super weak?
"super" weak? How about just weak? How about, worth a vote very early on D1?
Were you satisfied with his response?
Eh. He seems pretty aggravated. Might be genuine. I don't really know his range there. I see some people suggesting this is a Townie response from him. Maybe he's capable of faking that kind of indignation? His "I wouldn't do that as scum" argument wasn't great.
Anyway, I'm off for the rest of the day.
It's my dog's adoptaversary and I'm baking him a cake and taking him out!
My reads haven't changed too much from what I've said 596 and 605.
Kind of like that Axel admits to being unmotivated but ~NAI I think?
Ter and others have a point in that this might just be town Rod after all. I guess I'll see if anything else catches my attention once he calms down - in that way, me leaving is probably a good thing to get him there.
Guess I can actually look at Axelrod scumreads ~later~, as well as try to get an actual read on Killjoy just because I've kind of just let him slip by me.
Looking forward to Jackrito's eventual thoughtdump.
Axel: Yes, scum who saw that might be confused that the mark night be good for town. But for that to be true, none of the scum mark abilities would have to be bad. Scum! Rod would have more info than you're assuming he would have.
No he wouldn't?
I have no idea what you are trying to say here, except it seems like you're trying real hard to place it in a negative light.
You just said that you thought rod was scum based on his odd reaction to the mark. You actively, currently, have a reason to scum read him that's recent. That's "actively scum reading". The fact that you have that reason, but still wanted to say you're wagon jumping. That's my issue.
Where "actively" reading is something > completely random. There's a range there, which I think you are aware of.
Are you saying the scum read is super weak?
"super" weak? How about just weak? How about, worth a vote very early on D1?
Were you satisfied with his response?
Eh. He seems pretty aggravated. Might be genuine. I don't really know his range there. I see some people suggesting this is a Townie response from him. Maybe he's capable of faking that kind of indignation? His "I wouldn't do that as scum" argument wasn't great.
Scum Rod, at this moment, would know all his buddies abilities. For scum rod to be confused that town marks could be good, the following would have to be true:
1) all instances of a scum dark mark are negative
2) all instances of a scum dark mark are positive.
The outliers being that there's a mix of good and bad or no instances at all.
The way you hopped on rods wagon is unusual for a person voting someone they have a current scum read on. You're down playing your scum read on him RN for some reason. I dislike it.
There is a range, but it expands with time. This read is recent.
Your initial catch/reason of rod doesn't feel like you think it's weak.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Guess I can actually look at Axelrod scumreads ~later~, as well as try to get an actual read on Killjoy just because I've kind of just let him slip by me.
Looking forward to Jackrito's eventual thoughtdump.
You may be waiting a while and don't expect a lot, I'm washed at the moment.
So you would agree he actually has enough experience to make a meta statement on you?
Do you agree with the statement itself?
(all of that to Lagoon)
Sorry, that was a bit of an exaggeration. I just really wanted to say “clutch your pearls.”
His meta observations are true, even just with the Lagoon games. I post and care noticeably less as scum and kind of just try to skate by.
I might low post on purpose just for day 1 because I don’t want us to have 3k posts by the time deadline hits.
How many games have you played as Lagoon is it only the two I know of, because this seems like a really low sample size for you to be fine being read this way.
How many games have you played as Lagoon is it only the two I know of, because this seems like a really low sample size for you to be fine being read this way.
Three.
Seinen 2, some Mountainous game run by Kit, and osie's One Night in Bangkok or however it's called.
I think two town games and a scumgame that all happened within the span of a couple months is plenty.
How many games have you played as Lagoon is it only the two I know of, because this seems like a really low sample size for you to be fine being read this way.
Three.
Seinen 2, some Mountainous game run by Kit, and osie's One Night in Bangkok or however it's called.
I think two town games and a scumgame that all happened within the span of a couple months is plenty.
I did not know about the NIB game, even with 3 shocked how fine you are with this. I'm also concerned by your defence of him for his claim by a janitor assumption it is within his scum range to do this so why the defense.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Killjoy, I am debating with myself going down this stupid rabbit hole with you because it's almost totally irrelevant, and then someone is going to make a thing out of me wasting time talking about stuff that doesn't matter. But I am me, and I don't think I can let it go when you post like this.
Scum Rod, at this moment, would know all his buddies abilities. For scum rod to be confused that town marks could be good, the following would have to be true:
1) all instances of a scum dark mark are negative
2) all instances of a scum dark mark are positive.
The outliers being that there's a mix of good and bad or no instances at all.
What are you even talking about? What conversation are you in?
I am going to assume you meant to put an "either/or" in there, as in "one or the other of these things must be true." but even if that was what you meant, it still doesn't follow. It doesn't follow as something plausible and it doesn't follow from what I said.
The first speculation you have written here doesn't make sense. There is no reasonable game set-up (given the opening post) in which "all instances of a scum dark mark are negative." That is simply not a scenario in play here. I fail to see what point you think you are making with it.
The second speculation - that scum have positive Dark Mark upgrades - is what we were always talking about.
You said this:
Axel: Yes, scum who saw that might be confused that the mark night be good for town. But for that to be true, none of the scum mark abilities would have to be bad. Scum! Rod would have more info than you're assuming he would have.
This in response to my speculative hypothetical as to how a scum-Rodemy could have made the post he did.
What "more information" do you think I am assuming a scum!Rod would have? Because there isn't any. Can you not see this?
The hypothetical was: if Rod. truly did not read the opening post, and did not know that the Dark Marks were upgrades for everyone, and saw that they were upgrades for himself (and his team?) then it seems like it would at least be possible that - seeing a Town member asking for one - he would think that odd. Because he might have been assuming that the Dark Marks were a thing just for scum.
That's it. That was the entire speculation. It's really simple.
The way you hopped on rods wagon is unusual for a person voting someone they have a current scum read on.
Says you? How about I say that it is exactly how a person would vote given the "read" I had.
Plus, wagon.
You're down playing your scum read on him RN for some reason. I dislike it.
You seem to be trying very hard to up-play it into something more than it ever was.
And this is where I say again that I think you ought to know better.
Your initial catch/reason of rod doesn't feel like you think it's weak.
I guess I can't help you there. Except to point out that, when I make a strong vote (which rarely happens on D1, and virtually never this early) I would believe you usually know it. And I also wouldn't qualify it with, "not a slam dunk or anything, but fine for now...."
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
What I really want to do is kill everyone who has posted less than ZDS. Just nuke them all right now, and then see where we are.
/onlyhalfjoking
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Does not one else care that Lastwhisper isn’t taking a firm stance on anything, isn’t paying attention, and is spending most of his time posting fluff that means nothing?
maybe Jackrito is rubbing off on me who knows
also continue to read, and you will see ur answer to the whole, "not voting"
I take offense that you credit me for this, I'm guilty of the first part but not the others. I feel that I do take stances also this part of my play is just over dramatised by now tbh. Sadly when I do take these hard stances I'm always wrong such is my curse.
wagon me then
idk what u guys want from me at this point
leave me alone, jesus
Are you actually copying me on purpose now, or is this by accident because this is the type of post I end up doing a lot out of frustration, and get scumread for it. I feel you are massively overreacting though and it bothers me, but I do agree with your last vote on Zion. I'm just not used to you being so on edge I guess, you are normally more chill then this. I think I townread this but not sure.
wagon me then
idk what u guys want from me at this point
leave me alone, jesus
Are you actually copying me on purpose now, or is this by accident because this is the type of post I end up doing a lot out of frustration, and get scumread for it. I feel you are massively overreacting though and it bothers me, but I do agree with your last vote on Zion. I'm just not used to you being so on edge I guess, you are normally more chill then this. I think I townread this but not sure.
I'm not even on the edge, I just don't wanna do anything, and you guys want to solve me day 1 for some reason, and use ur big brains to wifom my alignment after it doesn't show up in my flip
What exactly do you want everyone to do about this? Completely ignore you?
how seriously do you want me to answer this. Stop asking me for forced content and then attacking me for the content looking like *****, I don't seriously plan on doing nothing, and I have done stuff lol,. But this mostly seems to revolve around AtE which is nai, and me claiming flipless, because y'all guys wanna be cute and try to mod game Osie
I gave reads and while the format was *****, I did like them at the time, so honestly idk what else to do but keep responding to what I want to
This is also the same ***** that happened in, mostly seinen where u proceeded to get pocketed by the most obvious wolf, after I died after being the night kill twice in a row
What exactly do you want everyone to do about this? Completely ignore you?
how seriously do you want me to answer this. Stop asking me for forced content and then attacking me for the content looking like *****, I don't seriously plan on doing nothing, and I have done stuff lol,. But this mostly seems to revolve around AtE which is nai, and me claiming flipless, because y'all guys wanna be cute and try to mod game Osie
I gave reads and while the format was *****, I did like them at the time, so honestly idk what else to do but keep responding to what I want to
This is also the same ***** that happened in, mostly seinen where u proceeded to get pocketed by the most obvious wolf, after I died after being the night kill twice in a row
This is actually how you played in Mostly seinen from memory actually since you bring that game up. So that improves my townread on you that rose througout my reread which I finally finished.
I agree with what Wisp said in their eariler read list on this slot.
I have no real intrest in voting Tom partly because his recent anger towards sloth feels like town frusation and feels like how he has being in all my games with him. I lack a scum game with him yet which ruins this a bit though. I also have issues with Zds and Sloth who are pushing here they both feel off.
My top town are Ter, Fonti, Amy and Wisp
killjoy can be lesser town due to meta reasons, I have mixed feelings on Lagoon but he is ok for now I will need to review this slot in more detail later because I gave him too much of a free pass last time and paid for it.
I think the Axel wagon has some merit based off what I saw and don't like his jump on Rod either, I have no intrest in working out Tom today he is town enough for me and his memes are making sense to me.
Shadow needs to do a lot more really left a lack of impression. We also have a lot of low posters which is a issue but this is still pretty early so hopefully this issue resolves itself.
Finally I think Terry and Kpaca feel town I think both of their approuchs while over the top at times is more likely to come from town, but my townreads are based off soft reasons so will review them in more detail also.
I have no real intrest in voting Tom partly because his recent anger towards sloth feels like town frusation and feels like how he has being in all my games with him. I lack a scum game with him yet which ruins this a bit though. I also have issues with Zds and Sloth who are pushing here they both feel off.
I have no real intrest in voting Tom partly because his recent anger towards sloth feels like town frusation and feels like how he has being in all my games with him. I lack a scum game with him yet which ruins this a bit though. I also have issues with Zds and Sloth who are pushing here they both feel off.
Sorry, where was tom angry at sloth?
That was suppose to be Rod had something else going on while doing that post.
Fonti not a wolf with sloth or Rod
I am not going to say anything about #693 out of principle
Zion could still go either way, part of me still needs more from Zion so that we don't repeat the last game with him
I think ZDS meta-wise is a bit in between so far, with it a bit pushing more towards his town self, because he focusing on more people than just one
I think reading Rodemy on his emotion is incorrect, and he looks ok because he is pushing what he believes
Lagoon definitely fell off, but that slot will become more obvious based on consistency
Killjoy is ok I guess
Axel's response to Killjoy is kinda townie, he is definitely able to give a clear and concise answer for everything he has done so far, not convince that his vote still wasn't just busywork.
Tom isn't worth looking at right now
Shadow also isn't really worth looking at right now, and given the fact that he asked for the dark mark, makes me just want to leave him alone, till he provides more content
Think you are jumping the gun with that Terry read, and especially with that K-paca read
K-paca has done absolutely nothing out of his wolf range, and has done nothing he couldn't easily do as a wolf
Clearly your reads are shallow as they should be at this point, but these two above I hate the most
I disliked how you sheeped my read on Zion, I dislike how you called 4 people "Top Town" and only talked about me
Anyway, I'm off for the rest of the day.
It's my dog's adoptaversary and I'm baking him a cake and taking him out!
My reads haven't changed too much from what I've said 596 and 605.
Kind of like that Axel admits to being unmotivated but ~NAI I think?
Ter and others have a point in that this might just be town Rod after all. I guess I'll see if anything else catches my attention once he calms down - in that way, me leaving is probably a good thing to get him there.
Alright, see you all later!
Sloth re-evaluating is probably something I like, but it still bothers me on a fundamental level, cause this isnt how I expect town!Sloth to treat his reads
@Killjoy
what is your read on Rodemy, or point me to where you stated it
the last coven you were in was scum. I'll pass.
I have no idea what you are trying to say here, except it seems like you're trying real hard to place it in a negative light.
Where "actively" reading is something > completely random. There's a range there, which I think you are aware of.
"super" weak? How about just weak? How about, worth a vote very early on D1?
Eh. He seems pretty aggravated. Might be genuine. I don't really know his range there. I see some people suggesting this is a Townie response from him. Maybe he's capable of faking that kind of indignation? His "I wouldn't do that as scum" argument wasn't great.
:/
Wait, are talking about this game or another game?
This is a pointless derail, I just feel like the game is too tense rn.
By "making sense" I mean you are/were playing carefully (which I did literally say in prior posts) and thinking ahead, whereas as Town I don't expect any of that from you and just see you throwing random ***** at the wall and getting fixated on less-than-valid things.
I admit you are doing more of that now, but doesn't make as much of a difference after the vote.
The rest of this post is white noise.
lol this made me laugh a little. The ****?
Rod, you think you have the slightest bit of power over me?
Watch me be done with you. Byeeee~
Give me your reason for voting me then or is that it.
This popped off a lot more then I was expecting it to so need to do a full reread properly if anyone wants my thoughts anything ask, because while I back read I tend to to check for real time stuff also.
You can die.
Wait, no.
The gay agenda?
No.
Dick measuring contest.
That one.
It's stupid and going no where.
It's my dog's adoptaversary and I'm baking him a cake and taking him out!
My reads haven't changed too much from what I've said 596 and 605.
Kind of like that Axel admits to being unmotivated but ~NAI I think?
Ter and others have a point in that this might just be town Rod after all. I guess I'll see if anything else catches my attention once he calms down - in that way, me leaving is probably a good thing to get him there.
Alright, see you all later!
I'm off too. I gotta go play the last of us part 2
Feel like Axel pushes could have scum in it, just because he obviously softed he wasn't town. Too lazy to really dig into it right now.
Vote shadow
Placeholder with a big shrug.
Looking forward to Jackrito's eventual thoughtdump.
1) all instances of a scum dark mark are negative
2) all instances of a scum dark mark are positive.
The outliers being that there's a mix of good and bad or no instances at all.
The way you hopped on rods wagon is unusual for a person voting someone they have a current scum read on. You're down playing your scum read on him RN for some reason. I dislike it.
There is a range, but it expands with time. This read is recent.
Your initial catch/reason of rod doesn't feel like you think it's weak.
Vote Axelrod
You may be waiting a while and don't expect a lot, I'm washed at the moment.
How many games have you played as Lagoon is it only the two I know of, because this seems like a really low sample size for you to be fine being read this way.
Is this to me?
Seinen 2, some Mountainous game run by Kit, and osie's One Night in Bangkok or however it's called.
I think two town games and a scumgame that all happened within the span of a couple months is plenty.
I did not know about the NIB game, even with 3 shocked how fine you are with this. I'm also concerned by your defence of him for his claim by a janitor assumption it is within his scum range to do this so why the defense.
Yeah sure, have your concerns.
I am going to assume you meant to put an "either/or" in there, as in "one or the other of these things must be true." but even if that was what you meant, it still doesn't follow. It doesn't follow as something plausible and it doesn't follow from what I said.
The first speculation you have written here doesn't make sense. There is no reasonable game set-up (given the opening post) in which "all instances of a scum dark mark are negative." That is simply not a scenario in play here. I fail to see what point you think you are making with it.
The second speculation - that scum have positive Dark Mark upgrades - is what we were always talking about.
You said this: This in response to my speculative hypothetical as to how a scum-Rodemy could have made the post he did.
What "more information" do you think I am assuming a scum!Rod would have? Because there isn't any. Can you not see this?
The hypothetical was: if Rod. truly did not read the opening post, and did not know that the Dark Marks were upgrades for everyone, and saw that they were upgrades for himself (and his team?) then it seems like it would at least be possible that - seeing a Town member asking for one - he would think that odd. Because he might have been assuming that the Dark Marks were a thing just for scum.
That's it. That was the entire speculation. It's really simple.
Says you? How about I say that it is exactly how a person would vote given the "read" I had.
Plus, wagon.
You seem to be trying very hard to up-play it into something more than it ever was.
And this is where I say again that I think you ought to know better.
I guess I can't help you there. Except to point out that, when I make a strong vote (which rarely happens on D1, and virtually never this early) I would believe you usually know it. And I also wouldn't qualify it with, "not a slam dunk or anything, but fine for now...."
/onlyhalfjoking
Axelrod (2) - tomsloger, Killjoy
Rodemy (2) - ZeDorkSlipeur, Slothful
Slothful (2) - Fuwa, Rodemy
tomsloger (2) - Axelrod, kpaca
Zionite (2) - fulcrum, Lastwhisper
Jackrito (1) - Ampharos
Killjoy (1) - xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
shadowlancerx (1) - gooLagoon
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry (1) - TerRaine
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx (1) - Zionite
Not voting: Jackrito, Poison Chan, shadowlancerx, TheRealStinkyJoeTerry, Tubba Fett
Vote History:
Slothful - Zionite > Jackrito
Axelrod - tomsloger > Rodemy
TerRaine - Slothful > Unvote > TheRealStinkyJoeTerry
Ampharos - tomsloger > Lastwhisper > Jackrito
tomsloger - No Elim > Axelrod > TheRealStinkyJoeTerry > Axelrod
Fuwa - Slothful
Zionite - xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
Rodemy - tomsloger > TheRealStinkyJoeTerry > gooLagoon > Ampharos > gooLagoon > Slothful
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx - Killjoy
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry - Ampharos > Lastwhisper > Unvote
fulcrum - Lastwhisper > Zionite
ZeDorkSlipeur - tomsloger > Rodemy
kpaca - Lastwhisper > tomsloger
Lastwhisper - Zionite
Killjoy - Axelrod
Fulcrum is V/LA.
Fuwa is V/LA.
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry is V/LA.
It takes 11 to elim, and Day 1 Deadline is the 29th at 1930 PST.
I take offense that you credit me for this, I'm guilty of the first part but not the others. I feel that I do take stances also this part of my play is just over dramatised by now tbh. Sadly when I do take these hard stances I'm always wrong such is my curse.
Are you actually copying me on purpose now, or is this by accident because this is the type of post I end up doing a lot out of frustration, and get scumread for it. I feel you are massively overreacting though and it bothers me, but I do agree with your last vote on Zion. I'm just not used to you being so on edge I guess, you are normally more chill then this. I think I townread this but not sure.
The townread on them doesn't have anything to do with the alt read, because I didn't actually think this through until now, oops.
I gave reads and while the format was *****, I did like them at the time, so honestly idk what else to do but keep responding to what I want to
This is also the same ***** that happened in, mostly seinen where u proceeded to get pocketed by the most obvious wolf, after I died after being the night kill twice in a row
This is actually how you played in Mostly seinen from memory actually since you bring that game up. So that improves my townread on you that rose througout my reread which I finally finished.
I agree with what Wisp said in their eariler read list on this slot.
I have no real intrest in voting Tom partly because his recent anger towards sloth feels like town frusation and feels like how he has being in all my games with him. I lack a scum game with him yet which ruins this a bit though. I also have issues with Zds and Sloth who are pushing here they both feel off.
My top town are Ter, Fonti, Amy and Wisp
killjoy can be lesser town due to meta reasons, I have mixed feelings on Lagoon but he is ok for now I will need to review this slot in more detail later because I gave him too much of a free pass last time and paid for it.
I think the Axel wagon has some merit based off what I saw and don't like his jump on Rod either, I have no intrest in working out Tom today he is town enough for me and his memes are making sense to me.
Shadow needs to do a lot more really left a lack of impression. We also have a lot of low posters which is a issue but this is still pretty early so hopefully this issue resolves itself.
Finally I think Terry and Kpaca feel town I think both of their approuchs while over the top at times is more likely to come from town, but my townreads are based off soft reasons so will review them in more detail also.
You may apologize at your leisure.
That was suppose to be Rod had something else going on while doing that post.
I am not going to say anything about #693 out of principle
Zion could still go either way, part of me still needs more from Zion so that we don't repeat the last game with him
actually I'll bite
I think ZDS meta-wise is a bit in between so far, with it a bit pushing more towards his town self, because he focusing on more people than just one
I think reading Rodemy on his emotion is incorrect, and he looks ok because he is pushing what he believes
Lagoon definitely fell off, but that slot will become more obvious based on consistency
Killjoy is ok I guess
Axel's response to Killjoy is kinda townie, he is definitely able to give a clear and concise answer for everything he has done so far, not convince that his vote still wasn't just busywork.
Tom isn't worth looking at right now
Shadow also isn't really worth looking at right now, and given the fact that he asked for the dark mark, makes me just want to leave him alone, till he provides more content
Think you are jumping the gun with that Terry read, and especially with that K-paca read
K-paca has done absolutely nothing out of his wolf range, and has done nothing he couldn't easily do as a wolf
Clearly your reads are shallow as they should be at this point, but these two above I hate the most
I disliked how you sheeped my read on Zion, I dislike how you called 4 people "Top Town" and only talked about me
Final Note:
Are you afraid to wolf read me?
yes you have, you just don't know you have
Nah, I apologize, that wasn't needed in my post
Sloth re-evaluating is probably something I like, but it still bothers me on a fundamental level, cause this isnt how I expect town!Sloth to treat his reads
@Killjoy
what is your read on Rodemy, or point me to where you stated it
Catching up now.