What's that got to do with anything? You can press more than one person at a time and your 2 vote wagon isn't going to make Sloth hurry along.
I’m curious as to why you want me to join. And why not sloth? His reasoning for calling me scum was the worst and he hasn’t answered a very important question based off his read on me. Why does that not raise any suspicion?
Pressuring me to vote axel isn’t gonna work, and you sound desperate to lynch him. Why?
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Not desperate...just like to see where the momentum leads and what results make come of it. You're currently active and happen to list him in your not town reads hence the invite.
Like I said...sloth feels town to me. I could be wrong but right now doesn't feel like a lucrative tree to shake specially when he's not here at the moment.
Asking a non present player the same question over and over isn't going to get you an answer any faster. In the mean time I was inviting you to do something else with your time til he shows.
You know, reading his interactions with killjoy makes me kind of reconsider my read on him.
I don’t want to lynch him. Especially since sloth wants to.
I feel like people want to lynch him because:
he might be a neutral
He won’t flip
Something else?
idk if he is telling the truth we won’t get anything from lynching him. He’s one of those roles we need to cop. Assuming there is a role like that in the game.
I don’t care for lynching him anymore, after some careful consideration.
I think the push for his lynch is malicious.
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Okay....what about his interactions with Killjoy got you there?
just the way he defended himself. He didn’t brush off the questions. He stuck with his reads and killjoy seemed to be reading a lot into it. His wagon jump felt okay and it appears to be someone else calling him out on it. (Killjoy?)
I think I might replace him with KJ on my list.
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His speculation seems alright and killjoy is jumping down his throat for it. It feels unnatural. Like he calls him out for saying “I like wagon jumping” and saying his scum read of my is “strong” which, he repeatedly said: it wasn’t.
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We could play a game! That would at least be amusing for me. You can list terrible/stupid roles and if you get it right, I can tell you! Everyone can play!
Sounds fun! I'll go with these two for now:
1) Desperado variant (you have a targeting ability, if you target the wrong alignment with it you die — bonus ***** points if the ability is compulsory);
2) Post-mortem win-condition (you have to die, then something has to happen once you are dead).
Goo: Well my first thoughts were that you were Johnny or Chris, but both of them have handles they use offsite already. I can't see them using a third handle specifically for a third and fourth site (Well, Johnny MIGHT, but I would assume he would have a fourth handle for that fourth site).
Vaimes also comes to mind, although I'm not getting from you a pathalogical inferiority complex towards sloth.
Lets start with a question: Have you played more than 5 games with me?
fulcrum: You don't like Sloth at all? You've found nothing he's done townie this game?
Also, are you usually hyperbolic in arguments generally?
I wanna note that 845 from Rod is... maybe a thing.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
We could play a game! That would at least be amusing for me. You can list terrible/stupid roles and if you get it right, I can tell you! Everyone can play!
Sounds fun! I'll go with these two for now:
1) Desperado variant (you have a targeting ability, if you target the wrong alignment with it you die — bonus ***** points if the ability is compulsory);
2) Post-mortem win-condition (you have to die, then something has to happen once you are dead).
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The way he stated it had no examples. I don’t recall you saying I was making sense so I gotta be scum. Did you say the same thing? If so what posts of mine were making sense to you? Give me examples and not some vague: he is making sense.
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We could play a game! That would at least be amusing for me. You can list terrible/stupid roles and if you get it right, I can tell you! Everyone can play!
Sounds fun! I'll go with these two for now:
1) Desperado variant (you have a targeting ability, if you target the wrong alignment with it you die — bonus ***** points if the ability is compulsory);
2) Post-mortem win-condition (you have to die, then something has to happen once you are dead).
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wait. Wait wait wait. Wait.
your guess was desperado varient? Which means you think he’s town. Desporado could never be a scum ability due to the fact they know who is town. And if you try and tack on “oh he has to shoot neutral: you didn’t mention that at ALL. Just an alignment.
Yet you are voting him???
oooo this called for the dusty ole FOS ZDS
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I add on: if you think he is neutral, why the **** are we lynching him. We can wait until we have a confirmed neutral faction in the game to hunt for that.
So yeah. Big ole fos
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Rodemy: I find you more careful than I'm used to, and I never thought you made no sense, so point taken. Regarding Axel, I'm trying to figure him out, and I'm not tunneling him to the extent I can't imagine him being town with an awful role. Feel free to think what you will.
Rodemy: I find you more careful than I'm used to, and I never thought you made no sense, so point taken. Regarding Axel, I'm trying to figure him out, and I'm not tunneling him to the extent I can't imagine him being town with an awful role. Feel free to think what you will.
You are playing :if you are town, this could be your role? That’s sadistic.
I also don’t believe the mindset of wanting to lynch him and thinking he could be town with a bad Role. Those two never go hand on hand
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Killjoy, I'm 99.9% sure, Lagoon was in Matter Mafia, if solving him helps read him, but trying to out him is pretty annoying given the fact he explicitly made an alt
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
But I forgot it's father's day (weekend) so he can have some leeway.
[b]Shadow[b/]was super excited in signups, and then like, didn't seem to care about the game at all. I know my experience with him as a wolf is not great and he's supposed to be decent at it (sorry Shadow) because it's always on dlp and his team is getting smashed, but like, this feels like the beginning of that.
everyone, please stop...
I do not want this
I am asking nicely, please drop this
Joe's bit doesn't make sense from a town mindset.
It makes sense from a scum mindset that got overtly excited about having something to push and didn't think it through before posting.
I'll let it be for now, but seriously dude.
I also just do not like [b]Sloth[/b]. At all.
Like, did he ever even follow up on this? Did my stunning words and logic talk you out of this read, Slothful? J'accuse you of being the one getting overtly excited about having something to push and not thinking it through before posting.
The accountant in me really doesn't feel like it's super probable Fonti draws scum two games in a row with me
This is an inquisitive, almost playful Fulcrum, whereas last game my gut feeling from her was predatory. Unless they’ve drastically changed it up, they’re town. I don’t like how Goo pushed claims in so early as a matter of principle, but I don’t see much that makes me think it was scum motivated.
@Rod
Explain why you’re so wrong and your best case scenario for an outcome of your DarkMarky Mark Gambit.
I also think Tubba cleared me too easy. Easily. That one. Like, a tone shift for oog reasons should not be this clearing. Unless he didn't know that. Nah, point stands.
Killjoy's obsession with figuring out who Lagoon's identity is townie: Taking arguments for or against.
finally, why are you taking arguments? Feels like you are trying to get a feel for what other people think of killjoy and will base your reads of that.
I can see a hint of town trying to figure out people, but a lot of it is mudslinging and seeding some doubt.
I’m gonna iso later today and figure out where the goo town read came from, but it feels like fulcrum and goo could be w/w.
so that’s sloth/goo/axel/fulcrum
in that order I think. Last is... close but I’m still trying to figure him out
your guess was desperado varient? Which means you think he’s town. Desporado could never be a scum ability due to the fact they know who is town. And if you try and tack on “oh he has to shoot neutral: you didn’t mention that at ALL. Just an alignment.
Yet you are voting him???
oooo this called for the dusty ole FOS ZDS
...Good lord.
Nvm, I was wrong. Rod's town.
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I'll talk more with you in a bit, Rod. I'm town too, so calm down.
We could play a game! That would at least be amusing for me. You can list terrible/stupid roles and if you get it right, I can tell you! Everyone can play!
Sounds fun! I'll go with these two for now:
1) Desperado variant (you have a targeting ability, if you target the wrong alignment with it you die — bonus ***** points if the ability is compulsory);
2) Post-mortem win-condition (you have to die, then something has to happen once you are dead).
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wait. Wait wait wait. Wait.
your guess was desperado varient? Which means you think he’s town. Desporado could never be a scum ability due to the fact they know who is town. And if you try and tack on “oh he has to shoot neutral: you didn’t mention that at ALL. Just an alignment.
your guess was desperado varient? Which means you think he’s town. Desporado could never be a scum ability due to the fact they know who is town. And if you try and tack on “oh he has to shoot neutral: you didn’t mention that at ALL. Just an alignment.
Yet you are voting him???
oooo this called for the dusty ole FOS ZDS
...Good lord.
Nvm, I was wrong. Rod's town.
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I'll talk more with you in a bit, Rod. I'm town too, so calm down.
sloth you did a fast 180. Tell me your arguments against this.
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Hey fulcrum why don’t you answer my question instead of telling me to “calm down”
why are you looking for arguments for or against killjoy
Right, sorry, I'm still kind of in a weird headspace, but getting better.
Um, killjoy? Because I don't know him really well and want to call him town but don't feel comfortable with, like, commitment man so I want to rely on my other townreads to check me.
Also, the kpaca thing wasn't a doubtcast, it was why I'm townreading him.
Also, also, yeah, I was throwing out scumreads stuff because I have a lot of townreads and scumreads are important to figure out. Sanity checking things, get other people on board, build the consensus village core, kill them wolves.
your guess was desperado varient? Which means you think he’s town. Desporado could never be a scum ability due to the fact they know who is town. And if you try and tack on “oh he has to shoot neutral: you didn’t mention that at ALL. Just an alignment.
Yet you are voting him???
oooo this called for the dusty ole FOS ZDS
...Good lord.
Nvm, I was wrong. Rod's town.
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I'll talk more with you in a bit, Rod. I'm town too, so calm down.
Give me your reason for voting me then or is that it.
Sure: Your literal first post was whimsical and sarcastic in a way I have never seen from you and it set me on the edge.
#115 was pointless and just busy talk about the mod and about things we already knew that no one was asking you to voice (also a 180 from the first post).
That's it.
wagon me then
idk what u guys want from me at this point
leave me alone, jesus
Are you actually copying me on purpose now, or is this by accident because this is the type of post I end up doing a lot out of frustration, and get scumread for it. I feel you are massively overreacting though and it bothers me, but I do agree with your last vote on Zion. I'm just not used to you being so on edge I guess, you are normally more chill then this. I think I townread this but not sure.
Sloth is a mixed read for me and that is a concern. in my 2 town games with him he has being more of a easy read for me and in my top town. In our last game everyone wanted him dead, but I fought it even though he was my competing wagon and it made people scum read me more, I felt that confident in town Sloth normally.
He has some good posts the ones I have marked are 596 and 6o6.His pushs this game feel so weird to me though and way more agrro then I would expect, him to be and this is a tad off putting for me. It is possible that he has more free time, then last time and so has more conviction. I need to reread prison game and see if he was this agrro because not sure. My examples of this are saying that Terry is scum for his push on Wisp which I disagree with and felt a bit opportunistic, and his push on Rod is just copying ZDS to a degree and not the type of thing I would expect Sloth to push. Apart from that his tone and his eveulation on people seems pretty good and seems like he is working out the game. So I don't think he is clear scum but nowhere near high town for me. This is why I described him as off to me in my first semi readlist.
Can you talk about the bolded more?
Agro = aggressive, right?
Curious, I would say that I'm not aggressive this game, compared to other ones. My push on Terry actually show this in that I dropped it easily enough annd never even voted him. With Rod it was more him yelling at me, and me just kinda laughing him off? Do you have other examples that justify that stance?
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In regards to this post, I’d probably say the same thing I said in regards to Terry. I’d expect town!Sloth to stand his ground on his own opinion, rather than back off because others think its something that Terry could do as town
Page 1 of his iso is combinations of playfulness, and poking at Terry, also he votes Jack because ???
Calls out Rodemy as being possible scum? But he hasn’t said anything really about Jack, so IDK why his vote ended up there?
So Sloth can be a wolf I guess? His content on a macro level isn’t townie enough to volume clear him yet thats for sure
Sloth re-evaluating is probably something I like, but it still bothers me on a fundamental level, cause this isnt how I expect town!Sloth to treat his reads
So what happened between these two posts to result in these two statements for the game?
So this is gunna be one of those games were everyone thinks I'm a wolf and anything I just say is spew, lit
...for the life of me, I don't know where this came from. You weren't even being talked about at the time. It's like a holstered post you accidentally clicked Post on. Did you explain this?
Ugh this post.
I'mma go against the grain and say that I'm okay with Z at least for D1.
His play is literally identical to the last game we played together, save for a couple of things that I haven't decided if there are AI yet. I tunneled him for several Days for the exact same reasons others are pointing to him this one and he turned out to be town.
@those that played in prison (Last, Rod, Ter, Tubba, Goo, Tom) thoughts?
@those that both played prison and are currently pressing him (only Last, I think?) where do you see the deviation exactly?
Axel, would you mind claiming what makes your role so frustrating, in vague terms? So we can try to figure out if your lack of motivation comes from your (*****ty?) role or from your alignment.
I don't know if I can without just making it completely obvious. I was not lying in my opening post. My - personal - chances of "winning" this game are small, and it is something that I - personally - have virtually no control over. That is something of a motivation drainer for me.
Let's try the direct approach again: Is there something that keeps you from claiming third party?
I mean, at this point your statements point very obviously towards it without saying so in plain terms, so either there's a reason, or you're just being a Coy Tom.
also ftr i don't wanna get too heavily into dark mark speculation but there's 0 chance it's ever a scum role giving out marks for reasons that should be fairly obvious
chances are it's either a town role or rng (or both, tbh)
i thought something similar, more goimg into a town role, thanks for expressing my thoughts in words ^^
The hat-in-hand, humble approach to this post seems townie.
2. Ampharos - actively hunting. Good tone
3. fulcrum - different tone
4. Slothful - tone and approach
5. Killjoy - reading the game
7. Jackrito- asking questions and hunting.
8. Rodemy - feels like... Rod
11. Fuwa - hasn’t done enough to form and opinion on
12. PoisonChan - hasn’t done enough to form and opinion on
13. xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx - hasn’t done enough to form and opinion on
14. TubbaFett - hasn’t done enough to form and opinion on
15. tomsloger - Tom being Tom
16. Lastwhisper - attitude
19. kpaca - not reading the game
17. gooLagoon - Wasn’t sure how i felt about coming out and claiming. Very WIFOMy which isn’t a tunnel I like to go down. Like I said I’m not a fan of the claim though when he acknowledges he has an antitownish role….but conflates role with Alignment in other posts. In anytime but especially a bastard one you need to keep these and two sep things in your brain.
18. Axelrod - I did not like the claim….seemed to be forced nonchalance. Toms gif set that I translated to “this was a calculate move” hits it on the head. Also don’t like that he changed the claim from one thing to another by saying no role reveal orig. and then later its no role OR alignment.
...so Ter's reads are very surface and little substance for most - except for axel and goo they go in-depth?
Is that is, girl? Is timmy stuck down a well?
I don't think it came from anything specific. I do think Last bringing up that he shared his role stuff to look good /regardless of alignment/ is a good look for him:
here is the problem
you are looking at things mechanically, in a game that is probably threading the line of being entirely bastard
I claimed because my alignment isn't revealed, its something you should know, it makes me look good as either alignment either way
back to doing nothing
o/
You think that's a good look for him? How? It's a statement that makes no sense.
@last btw, I actually asked you about that quote and you never answered. I still want to know what you meant - if not alignment, then in what way could it possibly make you look good?
Killjoy's obsession with figuring out who Lagoon's identity is townie: Taking arguments for or against.
Killjoy would want to know this regardless of alignment. He's pretty focused like that. Maybe a bit more as town to help him read lagoon better and see if he's scum, whereas scum!killjoy just sees another ML possibility.
VAIMES
if not, why is ZDS?
I’m curious as to why you want me to join. And why not sloth? His reasoning for calling me scum was the worst and he hasn’t answered a very important question based off his read on me. Why does that not raise any suspicion?
Pressuring me to vote axel isn’t gonna work, and you sound desperate to lynch him. Why?
Like I said...sloth feels town to me. I could be wrong but right now doesn't feel like a lucrative tree to shake specially when he's not here at the moment.
Asking a non present player the same question over and over isn't going to get you an answer any faster. In the mean time I was inviting you to do something else with your time til he shows.
I don’t want to lynch him. Especially since sloth wants to.
I feel like people want to lynch him because:
he might be a neutral
He won’t flip
Something else?
idk if he is telling the truth we won’t get anything from lynching him. He’s one of those roles we need to cop. Assuming there is a role like that in the game.
I don’t care for lynching him anymore, after some careful consideration.
I think the push for his lynch is malicious.
just the way he defended himself. He didn’t brush off the questions. He stuck with his reads and killjoy seemed to be reading a lot into it. His wagon jump felt okay and it appears to be someone else calling him out on it. (Killjoy?)
I think I might replace him with KJ on my list.
Rodemy may be onto something regarding Fulcrum.
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Rod, why aren't you accusing me of the same crimes you are accusing Sloth? What makes us different? (Not that I'm the first asking.)
Whispy, remind us why you voted Axel, and what you want to get out of it?
Sounds fun! I'll go with these two for now:
1) Desperado variant (you have a targeting ability, if you target the wrong alignment with it you die — bonus ***** points if the ability is compulsory);
2) Post-mortem win-condition (you have to die, then something has to happen once you are dead).
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Vaimes also comes to mind, although I'm not getting from you a pathalogical inferiority complex towards sloth.
Lets start with a question: Have you played more than 5 games with me?
fulcrum: You don't like Sloth at all? You've found nothing he's done townie this game?
Also, are you usually hyperbolic in arguments generally?
I wanna note that 845 from Rod is... maybe a thing.
The way he stated it had no examples. I don’t recall you saying I was making sense so I gotta be scum. Did you say the same thing? If so what posts of mine were making sense to you? Give me examples and not some vague: he is making sense.
wait. Wait wait wait. Wait.
your guess was desperado varient? Which means you think he’s town. Desporado could never be a scum ability due to the fact they know who is town. And if you try and tack on “oh he has to shoot neutral: you didn’t mention that at ALL. Just an alignment.
Yet you are voting him???
oooo this called for the dusty ole FOS ZDS
So yeah. Big ole fos
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Rodemy: I find you more careful than I'm used to, and I never thought you made no sense, so point taken. Regarding Axel, I'm trying to figure him out, and I'm not tunneling him to the extent I can't imagine him being town with an awful role. Feel free to think what you will.
You are playing :if you are town, this could be your role? That’s sadistic.
I also don’t believe the mindset of wanting to lynch him and thinking he could be town with a bad Role. Those two never go hand on hand
Claimed his role sucks, not as interested as I thought I was
vote: Axel
Also gun to my head, Killjoy is probably town
Woops
Didn't you claim the same thing? True, but I'm not hellbent on lynching him.
Umami makes some sense also
kiljoy/ shadow confirmed buddies
You need to chill your paranoia brain, lol.
@Font get 'im.
Nvm, I was wrong. Rod's town.
UNVOTE
I'll talk more with you in a bit, Rod. I'm town too, so calm down.
Mmmm, or maybe just slow your roll a bit.
Vote: ZDS
For the Lagooooon!
why are you looking for arguments for or against killjoy
sloth you did a fast 180. Tell me your arguments against this.
Right, sorry, I'm still kind of in a weird headspace, but getting better.
Um, killjoy? Because I don't know him really well and want to call him town but don't feel comfortable with, like, commitment man so I want to rely on my other townreads to check me.
Also, the kpaca thing wasn't a doubtcast, it was why I'm townreading him.
Also, also, yeah, I was throwing out scumreads stuff because I have a lot of townreads and scumreads are important to figure out. Sanity checking things, get other people on board, build the consensus village core, kill them wolves.
You're a wolf.
Also, I didn't tell you to "calm down," Sloth did, he is the wolf.
#115 was pointless and just busy talk about the mod and about things we already knew that no one was asking you to voice (also a 180 from the first post).
That's it.
You're townreading based on emotion alone here?
Can you talk about the bolded more?
Agro = aggressive, right?
Curious, I would say that I'm not aggressive this game, compared to other ones. My push on Terry actually show this in that I dropped it easily enough annd never even voted him. With Rod it was more him yelling at me, and me just kinda laughing him off? Do you have other examples that justify that stance?
Sloth is actively avoiding my question about why he thought I was confScum. Everyone take note and lynch.
Why? This isn't the first time you've brought it up. Am I the only player you are judging by this criteria?
...for the life of me, I don't know where this came from. You weren't even being talked about at the time. It's like a holstered post you accidentally clicked Post on. Did you explain this?
I'mma go against the grain and say that I'm okay with Z at least for D1.
His play is literally identical to the last game we played together, save for a couple of things that I haven't decided if there are AI yet. I tunneled him for several Days for the exact same reasons others are pointing to him this one and he turned out to be town.
@those that played in prison (Last, Rod, Ter, Tubba, Goo, Tom) thoughts?
@those that both played prison and are currently pressing him (only Last, I think?) where do you see the deviation exactly?
Is there something that keeps you from claiming third party?
I mean, at this point your statements point very obviously towards it without saying so in plain terms, so either there's a reason, or you're just being a Coy Tom.
...so Ter's reads are very surface and little substance for most - except for axel and goo they go in-depth?
Is that is, girl? Is timmy stuck down a well?
@last btw, I actually asked you about that quote and you never answered. I still want to know what you meant - if not alignment, then in what way could it possibly make you look good?
Sorry, you're one off at least
Killjoy would want to know this regardless of alignment. He's pretty focused like that. Maybe a bit more as town to help him read lagoon better and see if he's scum, whereas scum!killjoy just sees another ML possibility.
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