Haha, Rod. Are you just posting what I say after I post it on purpose or on accident?
@Goo & Tom: Hunt away for Fulcrum's partner, but I find it absurd that you think I am that partner when I exactly called out Wisp for being on scumchat with him right away. I get it, LW isn't his... wait could LW be Fulcrum's partner? Is that possible?
I don't have time to deep dive into that right now (YEAH AMERICA!), but my point was that it seems much more obvious that WMU is scum than what your trying to get to stick on me.
Haha, Rod. Are you just posting what I say after I post it on purpose or on accident?
@Goo & Tom: Hunt away for Fulcrum's partner, but I find it absurd that you think I am that partner when I exactly called out Wisp for being on scumchat with him right away. I get it, LW isn't his... wait could LW be Fulcrum's partner? Is that possible?
I don't have time to deep dive into that right now (YEAH AMERICA!), but my point was that it seems much more obvious that WMU is scum than what your trying to get to stick on me.
idk why im tagged here i dont think youre fontis partner its kj
Haha, Rod. Are you just posting what I say after I post it on purpose or on accident?
@Goo & Tom: Hunt away for Fulcrum's partner, but I find it absurd that you think I am that partner when I exactly called out Wisp for being on scumchat with him right away. I get it, LW isn't his... wait could LW be Fulcrum's partner? Is that possible?
I don't have time to deep dive into that right now (YEAH AMERICA!), but my point was that it seems much more obvious that WMU is scum than what your trying to get to stick on me.
Now that I think on it, I guess that would be a weird angle to push. Eh.
Vote Sloth
How could Lastwhisper be a Carrow sibling? And there's the whole nonsense about Tom Riddle.
@Terry in post 2289 are you sure I would go for such a narrow focus if i were scum?
Is not fake scumhunting, you didn't answer at the reason of my vote.
If i missed it link it to me please.
I like Amy's post 2294, reflects thoughts i was too lazy to type.
I see no question for me on your vote post. If you have a question hit me with it.
I voted you because of what you said and because you didn't had the courage to vote me.
When you say 'die scum' you don't have enough reasons to cast a vote too? Why? And spare me with you wanted reaction and stuff, the 2 words are not meant for a reaction.
Dude my phone battery was minutes away from dying and it was late at night. I'm pretty sure my case was sufficient for a vote the next IRL day. That was the question? The one I already answered in #2155?
I don't believe you. I don't think a scum you want dead deserves a delayed vote. If you had battery to type "die scum" you should have battery to vote me.
Although everyone thinks i am voting you for wagonomics i am voting you for inconsistency.
The post you say you answered is below and maybe i am idiot but i don't see the answer.:
Sorry guys, real life happens and I don't always have the ability to post a wall of thoughts, or even decent size posts, but sometimes I do and when I do, I think it should be pretty clear where I stand. Sometimes I check the game on my phone and for some reason or another just have a knee jerk reaction and need to put something in the thread. Did the thread impact my case at all? NO. Compare what I have put into this game on the WMU topic and consider what WMU has thrown at me. The difference is very clear.
Also, don't think I haven't noticed Sloth defending WMU.
Mentioning what you put in the game looks like you think you put a ton of work man, and this has zero relevance because comparing me with everyone I have lower activity. This doesn't make you town by default.
Your last sentence sounds like is a crime to defend me. Since then you know my AI to be sure who defends me is scum? not to say Sloth didn't really defend me, you are overreacting here.
That comment on top of agreeing that Wake killed ZDS is just off to me.
Yeah, you're right. Went back and read the flips. LW's role would mean that the other Carrow, becomes Tom Riddle, but Tom Riddle isn't a Carrow, so it was a dumb idea. Sorry
That comment on top of agreeing that Wake killed ZDS is just off to me.
Yeah, you're right. Went back and read the flips. LW's role would mean that the other Carrow, becomes Tom Riddle,but Tom Riddle isn't a Carrow, so it was a dumb idea. Sorry
explain the bolded please.
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@WMU: You're right. There, I said it. I had time to vote you... BUT I wanted to research more before I did, which I didn't have time for. So you can go ahead and vote away for me if that's your case, that I should have voted you without double checking the thread first. Sorry I told you to die before I was 100% ready to vote for you. If that's the case then check this out:
So Amy, please answer at the question regarding the differences you found in the MC game and my play here who makes you vote me.
And i was multitabling in games that now are finished, I can focus here more, post and interact more than once in 12 hours. One od these games was MU team game that Aquilla hosted.
I woke up, btw. At least for now I am reporting for duty.
The NKs are little odd for me, Fulcrum i think is mafia target, she was town read by many, but idk what to do with Wisp dying, if mafia he may be the victim of a redirected shot, but i am sure he is villager. Also i guess Tom Riddle-s may have different AIs.
Iirc Ose said the characters are not connected with AI so who has a bad character is not always scum and who has a good one is not always town.
It makes sense? I have to read that once more though.
I wish to read a little in who pushed ZDS. That push was scum orchestrated for sure.
Guess who called me scum for sure and didn't vote (yes, because I was the main one pushing the ZDS lynch)?
That comment on top of agreeing that Wake killed ZDS is just off to me.
Yeah, you're right. Went back and read the flips. LW's role would mean that the other Carrow, becomes Tom Riddle,but Tom Riddle isn't a Carrow, so it was a dumb idea. Sorry
Because LW's role said his role transfers to someone of the same alignment and we are assuming there are only two Carrow siblings as discussed before. Therefore if LW and Fulcrum were aligned, it creates a weird paradox. On top of that LW flipped Tom Riddle not Tom Carrow, so it was a stupid idea, which is what I was saying.
[quote from="Rodemy »" url="/forums/community-forums/mafia/817898-voldemorts-throne-room-mafia-day-2?comment=2363"]I doubt last was Fonti's partner. Like 100%
it said Non-carrow. Terry what is up with you.
That comment on top of agreeing that Wake killed ZDS is just off to me.
Yeah, you're right. Went back and read the flips. LW's role would mean that the other Carrow, becomes Tom Riddle,but Tom Riddle isn't a Carrow, so it was a dumb idea. Sorry
Because LW's role said his role transfers to someone of the same alignment and we are assuming there are only two Carrow siblings as discussed before. Therefore if LW and Fulcrum were aligned, it creates a weird paradox. On top of that LW flipped Tom Riddle not Tom Carrow, so it was a stupid idea, which is what I was saying.
@WMU: You're right. There, I said it. I had time to vote you... BUT I wanted to research more before I did, which I didn't have time for. So you can go ahead and vote away for me if that's your case, that I should have voted you without double checking the thread first. Sorry I told you to die before I was 100% ready to vote for you. If that's the case then check this out:
So Amy, please answer at the question regarding the differences you found in the MC game and my play here who makes you vote me.
And i was multitabling in games that now are finished, I can focus here more, post and interact more than once in 12 hours. One od these games was MU team game that Aquilla hosted.
I woke up, btw. At least for now I am reporting for duty.
The NKs are little odd for me, Fulcrum i think is mafia target, she was town read by many, but idk what to do with Wisp dying, if mafia he may be the victim of a redirected shot, but i am sure he is villager. Also i guess Tom Riddle-s may have different AIs.
Iirc Ose said the characters are not connected with AI so who has a bad character is not always scum and who has a good one is not always town.
It makes sense? I have to read that once more though.
I wish to read a little in who pushed ZDS. That push was scum orchestrated for sure.
Guess who called me scum for sure and didn't vote (yes, because I was the main one pushing the ZDS lynch)?
I said i want to look into that push and you suddenly was so upset and didn't even think at anything else that i am accusing you?
I have to dissapoint you, i have to look in all the day 1 for who pushed ZDS (especially if someone pushed, but not voted) and because i didn't read all the day yet I can't point at a certain player.
After this the thread continued with Tom who asked me in post 1959 why that wagon? and my answer still doesn't contain a precise direction. Later i told Amy that i want to check how ZDSs wagon formed and dissipated and my own - I didn't say i want to ignore Konan's wagon but, being so huge, until later in the game is a shot in the dark. To analyse ZDSs wagon from day start until Eod i need to work on PC, as well as for your Iso which i started but didn't finish. So to explain finally I didn't think at you at all.
Maybe you can help me in find how started the push for ZDS and why he became a pretty big wagon at a moment in the day. You trust the possibility for it to be 100% a villagers push?
What is interesting as second reaction is how much and the way Terraine defended you. Idk yet what to do with that defence.
But if you are a villager and ignored the benefit of the doubt in what I said and jumped to tell me "die scum" i am sad to play with such style. I could swear only a guilty conscience reacts like this.
Apologies for the slow start - mentally drained from team mafia, currently multi-tabling, and was visiting family for the holiday (not a large gathering, don't worry, but a few hours away)
I have not read very much of the thread and may not catch up on 50 pages ever tbh, sorry not sorry
I was left no hints from my previous slot owner so I also have no clue what's going on, but I see (half of?) the SK died apparently so that's cool
Anything in particular I should reread? Also, do we know if Tom Riddle was the scum leader, or, because they died at night, is the assumption that they're a town pr? Kinda seems unlikely that scum would die if there's a flipped 3p poisoner, but obviously somebody claiming a vig on the slot would clear that up ig
I also note a few familiar faces - hi Jackrito/Amy and I guess also Sloth!
Apologies for the slow start - mentally drained from team mafia, currently multi-tabling, and was visiting family for the holiday (not a large gathering, don't worry, but a few hours away)
I have not read very much of the thread and may not catch up on 50 pages ever tbh, sorry not sorry
I was left no hints from my previous slot owner so I also have no clue what's going on, but I see (half of?) the SK died apparently so that's cool
Anything in particular I should reread? Also, do we know if Tom Riddle was the scum leader, or, because they died at night, is the assumption that they're a town pr? Kinda seems unlikely that scum would die if there's a flipped 3p poisoner, but obviously somebody claiming a vig on the slot would clear that up ig
I also note a few familiar faces - hi Jackrito/Amy and I guess also Sloth!
tldr of current mechanical thoughts:
fonti (fulcrum) was almost certainly the scum nk
the kill on ZDS has been claimed by jackrito, who claims town vig
the wisp kill we're unsure on - opinions range from second scum kp (my personal most likely), to carrows having had a regular odd-night kill on top of the poison, to there being another sk-ish party involved
as for what tom riddle is... honestly we have no idea. lotta speculation but i think we're mostly hoping for more information to make itself evident later on
most players' isos itg are of a reasonably digestable size, or you could read the last couple of pages of d1, which felt kind of eod-ish (albeit over a larger timescale). that's about the best i can give you as far as breaking things down into chunks goes
oh also we have no idea who's poisoned, and it's been confirmed that the poisoned player would be informed. my personal opinion is she poisoned wisp or ZDS (probably wisp) but a roleblock or someone sandbagging a claim are also possible
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Lord knows I strive for that orangeandblack5 brand recognition
Anyways, thanks for the details. It's p late so I'ma go to bed, but if there's anything in particular you think I should read let me know and I'll do my best to get to it (open offer)
8 pages in, I have townreads on Rodemy, Kpaca and gooLagoon.
Rodemy: he wouldn’t have backtracked on his gambit as mafia.
Kpaca: he’s asking the right questions. Sadly in his typical Kpaca way where he doesn’t share what the answers do to his reads. Town for sure if terry is mafia.
gooLagoon: gutread.
8 pages in, I have townreads on Rodemy, Kpaca and gooLagoon.
Rodemy: he wouldn’t have backtracked on his gambit as mafia.
Kpaca: he’s asking the right questions. Sadly in his typical Kpaca way where he doesn’t share what the answers do to his reads. Town for sure if terry is mafia.
gooLagoon: gutread.
@Goo & Tom: Hunt away for Fulcrum's partner, but I find it absurd that you think I am that partner when I exactly called out Wisp for being on scumchat with him right away. I get it, LW isn't his... wait could LW be Fulcrum's partner? Is that possible?
I don't have time to deep dive into that right now (YEAH AMERICA!), but my point was that it seems much more obvious that WMU is scum than what your trying to get to stick on me.
Scum are just as threatened by the SK as i am. If i can find out who it is i am sure they want me to stay alive.
either way i could be lying it will all make sense in due time.
since you are here, maybe you can give us some insight: Were you targeted last night? did you learn/ do anything last night that could maybe help us?
how would you know if you were targeted?
That question is for them. i thought it was hand but i don't think it was.
Goo that question is for you.
it said Non-carrow. Terry what is up with you.
That comment on top of agreeing that Wake killed ZDS is just off to me.
No
Party Pooper :[
Tom: Pooper of parties.
My party was poop free until you came in, tom. Ya pooper.
Vote Sloth
How could Lastwhisper be a Carrow sibling? And there's the whole nonsense about Tom Riddle.
nothing you WANT to share apparently.
Why would you say "don't target me"? I would like to know a little more about that since we are here.
I'm just super confused as to why you DON'T want to be targeted.
>:(
I know that's going to make people curious, but at that point that's a them-problem.
it invited the scum to target you, though. Or any non-town. you'd have better luck just not saying anything.
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Now hush, I'm easily distracted.
Nah
I don't believe you. I don't think a scum you want dead deserves a delayed vote. If you had battery to type "die scum" you should have battery to vote me.
Although everyone thinks i am voting you for wagonomics i am voting you for inconsistency.
The post you say you answered is below and maybe i am idiot but i don't see the answer.:
Mentioning what you put in the game looks like you think you put a ton of work man, and this has zero relevance because comparing me with everyone I have lower activity. This doesn't make you town by default.
Your last sentence sounds like is a crime to defend me. Since then you know my AI to be sure who defends me is scum? not to say Sloth didn't really defend me, you are overreacting here.
*cue squeeing*
explain the bolded please.
@WMU: You're right. There, I said it. I had time to vote you... BUT I wanted to research more before I did, which I didn't have time for. So you can go ahead and vote away for me if that's your case, that I should have voted you without double checking the thread first. Sorry I told you to die before I was 100% ready to vote for you. If that's the case then check this out:
yup. You gotta give up mafia forever now. Sorry bud, dems the rules.
I said i want to look into that push and you suddenly was so upset and didn't even think at anything else that i am accusing you?
I have to dissapoint you, i have to look in all the day 1 for who pushed ZDS (especially if someone pushed, but not voted) and because i didn't read all the day yet I can't point at a certain player.
After this the thread continued with Tom who asked me in post 1959 why that wagon? and my answer still doesn't contain a precise direction. Later i told Amy that i want to check how ZDSs wagon formed and dissipated and my own - I didn't say i want to ignore Konan's wagon but, being so huge, until later in the game is a shot in the dark. To analyse ZDSs wagon from day start until Eod i need to work on PC, as well as for your Iso which i started but didn't finish. So to explain finally I didn't think at you at all.
Maybe you can help me in find how started the push for ZDS and why he became a pretty big wagon at a moment in the day. You trust the possibility for it to be 100% a villagers push?
What is interesting as second reaction is how much and the way Terraine defended you. Idk yet what to do with that defence.
But if you are a villager and ignored the benefit of the doubt in what I said and jumped to tell me "die scum" i am sad to play with such style. I could swear only a guilty conscience reacts like this.
I have not read very much of the thread and may not catch up on 50 pages ever tbh, sorry not sorry
I was left no hints from my previous slot owner so I also have no clue what's going on, but I see (half of?) the SK died apparently so that's cool
Anything in particular I should reread? Also, do we know if Tom Riddle was the scum leader, or, because they died at night, is the assumption that they're a town pr? Kinda seems unlikely that scum would die if there's a flipped 3p poisoner, but obviously somebody claiming a vig on the slot would clear that up ig
I also note a few familiar faces - hi Jackrito/Amy and I guess also Sloth!
fonti (fulcrum) was almost certainly the scum nk
the kill on ZDS has been claimed by jackrito, who claims town vig
the wisp kill we're unsure on - opinions range from second scum kp (my personal most likely), to carrows having had a regular odd-night kill on top of the poison, to there being another sk-ish party involved
as for what tom riddle is... honestly we have no idea. lotta speculation but i think we're mostly hoping for more information to make itself evident later on
most players' isos itg are of a reasonably digestable size, or you could read the last couple of pages of d1, which felt kind of eod-ish (albeit over a larger timescale). that's about the best i can give you as far as breaking things down into chunks goes
why can't people just have one recognizable brand image smh
nibio my butt
shrug
like your avatar, actually
idk maybe i'm just an overly visual person
Anyways, thanks for the details. It's p late so I'ma go to bed, but if there's anything in particular you think I should read let me know and I'll do my best to get to it (open offer)
Killjoy (2) - tomsloger, Rhand
Slothful (2) - TerRaine, gooLagoon
Tubba Fett (2) - Ampharos, Slothful
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx (2) - TheRealStinkyJoeTerry, Rodemy
orangeandblack5 (1) - Jackrito
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry (1) - xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
Not voting: Axelrod, Killjoy, kpaca, orangeandblack5, Trisscar, Tubba Fett
Vote History:
Slothful - Tubba Fett
tomsloger - Slothful > Killjoy
TerRaine - Tubba Fett > xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx - TheRealStinkyJoeTerry
Rodemy - xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx > Axelrod > Killjoy > Slothful > Killjoy > xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry - xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
Rhand - Slothful > Killjoy
Jackrito - orangeandblack5
gooLagoon - Slothful > TheRealStinkyJoeTerry > Slothful
It takes 9 to elim, and Day 2 Deadline is July 11th, 2020 at 1715 PST. There will likely be a twilight phase.
Axelrod is V/LA.
Killjoy is V/LA.
kpaca is V/LA (for now).
Slothful is V/LA.
TerRaine is V/LA.
Killjoy - 4+
Trisscar - 2
TerRaine - 4+
Tubba Fett - 2
tomsloger - 4+
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry - 4+
Jackrito - 3
Rhand - 4+
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx - 4+
Ampharos - 4+
Rodemy - 4+
Axelrod - 3 (V/LA)
Slothful - 4+
gooLagoon - 4+
orangeandblack5 - 0 (Subbed in)
kpaca - 0 (V/LA)
Jackrito has been prodded.
Trisscar has been prodded.
Seeking possible replacement for Tubba Fett.What about Ampharos? Do you have a take there?
Town or with Fulcrum. Probably town.