It's just difficult to feel bad for someone who was doing something so foolish. It's like feeling bad for the guy who got hit by the car while practicing his dance routine in traffic.
I don't know. I mean, yes, it sucks that she died, but it certainly doesn't qualify as a tragedy. I think we, as a society, apply that word to wayyyyy too many things in this day and age, and it is so quickly losing its meaning. We really need to step back and evaluate, because once we do, we'll all assuredly realize that this isn't a tragedy, it's just an amusing incident that ended with a sad, fatal closure.
It's not so much that people have to consider this a tragedy. You don't even need to feel bad for the individual who died. I agree, she was an idiot for following some Indian guru.
But more that people should take death as it is- death. The death of anyone is a solemn affair, and not something that should be taken lightly.
You don't need to dwell on it or anything deep. Just need to understand that death is finality and that no one will ****ing care if you die besides your immediate family members and/or your loved ones.
No one will care.
Everyone else will either ignore your death or laugh at you if you died in a stupid/unorthodox manner.
That is a terrifying prospect. But I shouldn't be surprised that most people don't understand this, least of all on a forum such as this.
It's not so much that people have to consider this a tragedy.
It's a classical tragedy. A tragedy is what occurs when someone suffers (usually, suffers death) through the unforeseen but inevitable consequences of his or her own character flaws and decisions. When we see this happen, we have very different emotional responses than when we see deaths that are the result of external agents or random accidents. There's a neat narrative logic to a tragedy; it ceases to be an event in this strange and messy real world, and becomes a story. We can easily accept what happened because we can understand why it happened. We're not shocked and awed by the incomprehensibility of life as we are in the face of other deaths. We don't feel smaller; we feel bigger. And the fact that these responses are inappropriate towards the death of a real person diminishes them not at all, especially when (and isn't it always this way?) we don't know anyone personally involved.
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People die everyday in much more worse ways then this. There are stupid people in every corner of the world. If we shed a tear for every person who followed the path they wished and died, we wouldnt have much time for anything else.
Ill let you in on a little secret, death is part of living and everyone on these boards will die at some time. I dont find someone dying like this tragic.
Semi reminds me of the guy that got fried in India. he was standing on top of one of their electric trains. he started walking (he wasn't suppose to be up there and people were trying to get him down).
he reached up and grabed the high voltage line and well that was that.
I seriously doubt that guy survived soley on sunlight. it is not possible. you can go weeks without food, but you can't go that long with out water.
in good shape you might be able to go a week.
people that are trained in the art of fasting can do this but they still drink liquid's. other people such as monk that have learned to control their metabolism can for a little bit.
this is also like those chinese people that died from paying online games for like a week straight. they were in an internet cafe with food and stuff and they just sat and played games.
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this is also like those chinese people that died from paying online games for like a week straight. they were in an internet cafe with food and stuff and they just sat and played games.
American college kids were dying this from this too. living on Red Bull and no food for days at a time with no sleep and their bodies just gave out. It doesnt happen as much as it use to, but late 90s early 2000s I remember reading about a few cases.
this is also like those chinese people that died from paying online games for like a week straight. they were in an internet cafe with food and stuff and they just sat and played games.
There were plenty of cases where they ate and drank and it was due mostly to sleep deprivation, and not moving for a day. I think that just caused their organs to shut down?
But yeah, this is kind of similar, aside from the fact that no one published a story saying they were able to stay awake for a week straight on redbulls, WoW, and chips with little to no physical movement and have an increase in overall health.
The lapse of judgement it took is probably the same, though.
It's a classical tragedy. A tragedy is what occurs when someone suffers (usually, suffers death) through the unforeseen but inevitable consequences of his or her own character flaws and decisions. When we see this happen, we have very different emotional responses than when we see deaths that are the result of external agents or random accidents. There's a neat narrative logic to a tragedy; it ceases to be an event in this strange and messy real world, and becomes a story. We can easily accept what happened because we can understand why it happened. We're not shocked and awed by the incomprehensibility of life as we are in the face of other deaths. We don't feel smaller; we feel bigger. And the fact that these responses are inappropriate towards the death of a real person diminishes them not at all, especially when (and isn't it always this way?) we don't know anyone personally involved.
Where'd you get this? I'm interested in reading about the thought behind this.
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I wrote that you don't have to feel sad for the person who died. Like I said, I think she's a fool.
I just find joking about the circumstances or causes of her death, or anyone's death for that matter, to be heartless.
Where'd you get this? I'm interested in reading about the thought behind this.
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I wrote that you don't have to feel sad for the person who died. Like I said, I think she's a fool.
I just find joking about the circumstances or causes of her death, or anyone's death for that matter, to be heartless.
You rays a good point, but I disagree; there are different ways of mourning, and a sense of humor is not heartless but more of a warming memorial.
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Isn't this "sunlight is all you need for food" theory an offshoot of the "Hollow Earth" conspiracy theory? Or am I getting my half-baked conspiracies mixed up?
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
It's not so much that people have to consider this a tragedy. You don't even need to feel bad for the individual who died. I agree, she was an idiot for following some Indian guru.
Aren't you being hypocritical by saying that then?
But more that people should take death as it is- death. The death of anyone is a solemn affair, and not something that should be taken lightly.
Maybe if you weren't being so sanctimonious, you might recognize that humor is one of man's greatest defenses against the tragedy of human existence.
Besides, you called her an idiot. You're no different from anyone else on this thread.
What's sad about this is the woman was not given the psychiatric help she obviously needed. If my mother attempted this I pick her up and take her to a hospital to be evaluated. No rational person would do this to themselves.
It's strange to me to see people I know to be religious throwing names like fool and idiot that this woman. Aren't you supposed to respect her religious beliefs? What if the only way to transition to the afterlife is to starve yourself to death on photons, won't you feel like the fool when you don't get to heaven! In all honestly, this woman's beliefs are just as rational as any other religious person's beliefs. She absorbed an idea and lived her life by it. She had no reason to believe it would work, and it was a decision made with complete neglect for empirical data. But is it any more crazy than thinking if you don't ask forgiveness from a guy that might have lived 2 thousand years ago that you will burn in eternal fire? They sound about on par imo.
I have no soul. But I don't think you do either so it's a moot point.
In one way or another I find it to miserably sad, and in other I find myself chuckling. She accidentally killed herself by convincing herself that she would survive on sunlight! If find her mental instability saddening. Then I find myself asking if she would be a front runner for the Darwin awards and I chuckle.
One thing is for sure, her family is all pentup with guilt over not taking action I'm sure.
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Will the people responsible for the documentary she watched be arraigned for manslaughter? Seems just like those suicide videos to me.
doubt it.
unless more and more people start to do it. cults like these are iffy at best. the arguement would be that she didn't have to do it therefore it wasn't anything we did.
or she didn't follow the perscribed directions.
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It's just difficult to feel bad for someone who was doing something so foolish. It's like feeling bad for the guy who got hit by the car while practicing his dance routine in traffic.
I don't know. I mean, yes, it sucks that she died, but it certainly doesn't qualify as a tragedy. I think we, as a society, apply that word to wayyyyy too many things in this day and age, and it is so quickly losing its meaning. We really need to step back and evaluate, because once we do, we'll all assuredly realize that this isn't a tragedy, it's just an amusing incident that ended with a sad, fatal closure.
Because we care about facts.
It's not so much that people have to consider this a tragedy. You don't even need to feel bad for the individual who died. I agree, she was an idiot for following some Indian guru.
But more that people should take death as it is- death. The death of anyone is a solemn affair, and not something that should be taken lightly.
You don't need to dwell on it or anything deep. Just need to understand that death is finality and that no one will ****ing care if you die besides your immediate family members and/or your loved ones.
No one will care.
Everyone else will either ignore your death or laugh at you if you died in a stupid/unorthodox manner.
That is a terrifying prospect. But I shouldn't be surprised that most people don't understand this, least of all on a forum such as this.
It's a classical tragedy. A tragedy is what occurs when someone suffers (usually, suffers death) through the unforeseen but inevitable consequences of his or her own character flaws and decisions. When we see this happen, we have very different emotional responses than when we see deaths that are the result of external agents or random accidents. There's a neat narrative logic to a tragedy; it ceases to be an event in this strange and messy real world, and becomes a story. We can easily accept what happened because we can understand why it happened. We're not shocked and awed by the incomprehensibility of life as we are in the face of other deaths. We don't feel smaller; we feel bigger. And the fact that these responses are inappropriate towards the death of a real person diminishes them not at all, especially when (and isn't it always this way?) we don't know anyone personally involved.
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People die everyday in much more worse ways then this. There are stupid people in every corner of the world. If we shed a tear for every person who followed the path they wished and died, we wouldnt have much time for anything else.
Ill let you in on a little secret, death is part of living and everyone on these boards will die at some time. I dont find someone dying like this tragic.
he reached up and grabed the high voltage line and well that was that.
I seriously doubt that guy survived soley on sunlight. it is not possible. you can go weeks without food, but you can't go that long with out water.
in good shape you might be able to go a week.
people that are trained in the art of fasting can do this but they still drink liquid's. other people such as monk that have learned to control their metabolism can for a little bit.
this is also like those chinese people that died from paying online games for like a week straight. they were in an internet cafe with food and stuff and they just sat and played games.
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American college kids were dying this from this too. living on Red Bull and no food for days at a time with no sleep and their bodies just gave out. It doesnt happen as much as it use to, but late 90s early 2000s I remember reading about a few cases.
There were plenty of cases where they ate and drank and it was due mostly to sleep deprivation, and not moving for a day. I think that just caused their organs to shut down?
But yeah, this is kind of similar, aside from the fact that no one published a story saying they were able to stay awake for a week straight on redbulls, WoW, and chips with little to no physical movement and have an increase in overall health.
The lapse of judgement it took is probably the same, though.
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Where'd you get this? I'm interested in reading about the thought behind this.
bocephus-
I wrote that you don't have to feel sad for the person who died. Like I said, I think she's a fool.
I just find joking about the circumstances or causes of her death, or anyone's death for that matter, to be heartless.
You rays a good point, but I disagree; there are different ways of mourning, and a sense of humor is not heartless but more of a warming memorial.
Make the white queen run so fast, she hasn't got time to make you wise.
Pilot of the storm who leaves no trace, like thoughts inside a dream.
Doctor, my eyes, tell me what you see. I hear their cries... just say if it's too late for me.
Doctor, my eyes...cannot see the sky. Is this the prize for having learned how not to cry?
Wakka wakka!
Aren't you being hypocritical by saying that then?
Maybe if you weren't being so sanctimonious, you might recognize that humor is one of man's greatest defenses against the tragedy of human existence.
Besides, you called her an idiot. You're no different from anyone else on this thread.
It's strange to me to see people I know to be religious throwing names like fool and idiot that this woman. Aren't you supposed to respect her religious beliefs? What if the only way to transition to the afterlife is to starve yourself to death on photons, won't you feel like the fool when you don't get to heaven! In all honestly, this woman's beliefs are just as rational as any other religious person's beliefs. She absorbed an idea and lived her life by it. She had no reason to believe it would work, and it was a decision made with complete neglect for empirical data. But is it any more crazy than thinking if you don't ask forgiveness from a guy that might have lived 2 thousand years ago that you will burn in eternal fire? They sound about on par imo.
I have no soul. But I don't think you do either so it's a moot point.
In one way or another I find it to miserably sad, and in other I find myself chuckling. She accidentally killed herself by convincing herself that she would survive on sunlight! If find her mental instability saddening. Then I find myself asking if she would be a front runner for the Darwin awards and I chuckle.
One thing is for sure, her family is all pentup with guilt over not taking action I'm sure.
― Christopher Hitchens, God Is Not Great
doubt it.
unless more and more people start to do it. cults like these are iffy at best. the arguement would be that she didn't have to do it therefore it wasn't anything we did.
or she didn't follow the perscribed directions.
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