You know what DOES feel awesome though? A workout so invigorating that after you're done being sedentary drives you crazy. That's what happened to me today with ab ripper x and a 2 mile jog/walk.
Yep, feels really good. Keep it up!
1) If you're just trying to make friends then why does it matter what they look like?
I think yes and no. People convey things with how they dress and what they put forth in terms of photographs. It doesn't matter deeply but it is good information.
2) When someone tries to talk to you and they're not appealing to you sexually what is your reaction (specifically they COULD be attracted to you but you don't really know why they're talking to you. Let's assume that they are neither interesting/banal or threatening/creepy.)
I generally try to cool them out. Act disinterested/ not interesting while still being polite, and maintain as little contact as possible. If I realize I'm misreading the situation for some reason, then that may change.
3) Would it bother you if a gay guy said, "I hate gay culture. Gays are annoying and catty. No wonder people won't let gays get married all over." (why/why not?)
Hell yes. Basically for the same reason everyone else stated. I, personally, am not flamboyant or effeminate. When I come out, people are surprised. But that's just who I am; I don't act differently because I don't want to be perceived as gay. I am who I am, and I don't present myself differently so society has a more positive view of me. I think guys who are more flamboyant are actually really courageous; it's a really hard in this culture to be effeminate. I stand up for people being able to be who they are whenever I can.
4) If you perceive there are problems in the gay world do you believe you can make a difference? Would you want to/have you tried?
I wish it were less hook-up oriented. I don't care enough though to make a difference; each person's tastes are theirs. That is just me interjecting my own desires into the community, which may or may not be for everyone's benefit.
5) In your culture (this came up because of my hispanic gay friends) is it difficult for you to be gay/come out? I know it can be difficult for anyone, but I know there's a level of expected machismo for my Mexican American friends specifically that makes it especially difficult to come out to their families.
Not as hard as a lot of places, but not as easy as others. Not much else to say.
1) If you're just trying to make friends then why does it matter what they look like?
I like to know who people are, and appearance helps me create a mental image of them, a face to the name so to speak.
Let's say you know what they look like, they're just ugly. I guess it ties into question two of they're ugly but they're talking to you. What's the aversion to talking to them in a friendly way that sells friendship over romance?
2) When someone tries to talk to you and they're not appealing to you sexually what is your reaction (specifically they COULD be attracted to you but you don't really know why they're talking to you. Let's assume that they are neither interesting/banal or threatening/creepy.)
Depends on my mood. If I'm at a bar or some such thing I'll talk to them, assuming they're not harassing me (though I've never had that problem before). If I'm busy then I'll say so, if I feel awkward then I'll say so.
For me it wholly depends on what they're saying to me. I'll talk to anyone, but if they intimate that the sole reason they're talking to me is to screw then I let them know I'm not interested. If I get the feeling that they only want to be friends to screw then I let them know I'm not interested.
The whole grindr thing doesn't really make sense to me. I mean, I understand why people use it, but I just don't get the same kick out of it that some people do, apparently. *shrug*
It's not for everyone. I am trying to meet gays other ways but I've had moderate enough success with this that I'm going to keep using it. Analyzing it is giving me something to do at the very least
3) Would it bother you if a gay guy said, "I hate gay culture. Gays are annoying and catty. No wonder people won't let gays get married all over." (why/why not?)
Uh, yeah. That would bother me. It's that kind of straighter-than-thou, I'm-too-good-for-this bull**** that drives me up the wall about the LGBT community, even moreso than any actual or perceived "cattiness". Queer people are people, with different personalities, differing degrees of masculinity and effeminacy, differing degrees of involvement in the community, different passions and careers, different cultures, different socioeconomic backgrounds, different religious faiths. I know many more masculine queer men who otherwise would be involved in the queer community but they don't want to "look bad" if they hang out with a flamer. Why? Does it threaten your pathetic, fragile sense of masculinity? Are you afraid people might think you're *gasp* gay? WHO CARES. As far as I'm concerned, you distancing yourself from the community because you don't fit into a perceived stereotype only serves to perpetuate that goddamned stereotype you hate so goddamn much.
****!
/rant
In context this was from a conversation with a 20 year old gay guy in a gay college. I'll have to ask why he feels so strongly that this is the way the gay community is. I'm going to convince him that while it may seem like that's the only way things are, there are people worth finding who defy this definition.
4) If you perceive there are problems in the gay world do you believe you can make a difference? Would you want to/have you tried?
Yep. I'm actually going to be at the Creating Change conference next month in Baltimore. It's an LGBT social justice conference. As a white, middle-class, able-bodied, cisgender queer man, I realized that if I'm going to fight for equality and justice in the queer community, I need to understand what everyone else's needs are. A trans person of color, or a gay man of the Muslim faith, or a disabled lesbian will all have different needs and different perspectives and thoughts about what their queer identity means to them. I can't just fight for what I perceive they need.
If you mean in terms of social things like cattiness, I consider simply being an out and involved member of the community to be the best anyone can do in that regard. i.e. not withdrawing, see above rant.
i mean with regards to anything you perceive as a problem. For me it involves the latter though.
5) In your culture (this came up because of my hispanic gay friends) is it difficult for you to be gay/come out? I know it can be difficult for anyone, but I know there's a level of expected machismo for my Mexican American friends specifically that makes it especially difficult to come out to their families.
It's been fairly easy compared to some people I know, although the Roman Catholicism has made it difficult for some people in my family to accept. It's OK though, because I'm probably not going to be coming anywhere near home for grad school, so no worries.
Where ARE you going to grad school anyway? Down south right >:D
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1) If you're just trying to make friends then why does it matter what they look like?
The bigger question is if your profile says "friends only", why do you start the conversation with "hey cutie!" or "how big r u"? In all seriousness, no pic = no conversation for a number of valid reasons. For one, even if you are trying to make friends the sexual angle is still present. For another, I'd still want to make sure the person I'm talking to isn't completely creepy. And finally, presenting a clear, current, and genuine picture of yourself says a lot about you. If you are a confident, happy person then you're going to put yourself out there. If you are going to have no pic, or use one that's incredibly blurry, outdated, stolen, etc., then right off the bat that tells me you've got severe personality flaws and I don't want anything to do with you.
Let's say you're me. STOP LOOKING DOWN THERE! You're on grindr. *slap* don't touch it. You're out to make friends, dates, sexcetera. You come across another guy who is 6'5" and you think "Awesome, tall gays!" and his status says "Dating" and profile "Looking for friends." You message the guy asking if he's found it "difficult to find friends on here/avoid the guys looking for hookups" and the response is "Why do you care?" You're friendly and non-sexual in tone (if you can imagine me being not sexual) and then you get no response.
If you're me then you think, "Well...this guy says he wants friends but won't talk to me...I'm being friendly and appropriate so what's with the perceived animosity and cold shoulder?"
If you're him you can't know really that all I want is friendship from you ESPECIALLY because you're already dating someone. This begs the question who the heck are you on grindr to meet if that's how you treat people?
2) When someone tries to talk to you and they're not appealing to you sexually what is your reaction
I'm assuming this is still specifically referring to online communication? In that case, and assuming no other factors involved, I'll probably just ignore the person. Not to out this in a douchey way or anything, but I've got a husband and I've got a pretty solid group of friends. I'm happy to meet cool people/new friends via online stuff if that's how it works out, but the reason I'm talking to someone online is sexual. So if there's no sexual interest, there's no communication interest.[/quote]
situation outlined above: You're on grindr but you say looking for friends only and you're dating.
3) Would it bother you if a gay guy said, "I hate gay culture. Gays are annoying and catty. No wonder people won't let gays get married all over." (why/why not?)
Ummm.... hell yes it would? wtf? In a conversation between two gays, simple substitution logic produces the following statement: "I hate our culture. You and I are annoying and catty. No wonder people won't let you or I get married." Not to mention the sheer irony of complaining about a behavior by contribution to it vehemently. If I were to bother responding to one of these jerks, it would be to say "Gay culture is diverse. It isn't just the certain aspects you dislike, it's every common thread gays share and it encompasses more than bars, drugs, sex, and fashion sense. Guess what? You are a part of gay culture. It doesn't just end at your doorstep and you get to decide whether or not to step out into it today. You are always a part of it; you can choose which parts to embrace and which parts to reject, and you can choose what common interests to seek out in others and which to reject. But if all you see when you think of gay culture is negativity, then maybe you're spending too much time in front of the mirror and not enough time making real connections with other people."
/my mf-ing rant
I think it means they're spending too much time around people that reflect that part of our culture. I'm not going to say it doesn't exist, but certainly that's not all there is. It's like looking at a rose and only seeing the thorns, the bee, and how your mother is allergic so you don't really have an appreciation for flowers.
4) If you perceive there are problems in the gay world do you believe you can make a difference? Would you want to/have you tried?
Of course it's possible to make a difference. The real question is how much time and energy are you willing to devote to making a difference. Personally, my interest in making a difference in the gay community extends to striving to have a healthy, balanced life for myself, and encouraging friends and newcomers to do the same. But it ends about there, though I may occasionally poke at negative behaviors I encounter (I'm particularly fond of playing up the fact that I'm gay whenever someone makes anti-gay comments during online games like Starcraft.)
I am making changes for purely selfish reasons. I am going to be myself and be as outgoing and nice as possible to gays and quash whatever I can of this cattiness because I don't want it around me, never fear that people are talking about me behind my back, and want to be accepted for who I am.
As far as your follow up goes, personally I think you've got it right. I'm of the philosophy that says "be the change"; people tend not to change until they decide to, and the majority of the time you're not going to change anyone's mind for them. I also think that the 'trojan horse' strategy is an interesting angle, but as Mean Girls teaches us, you're more likely to be changed by the people you surround yourself with than you are to change them.
When people say gays are catty I like to say, "It's pronounced like Katey." ...or I try really hard not to :D. I have a really strong personality (read STUBBORN AS HELL) but I did consider that scenario exactly.
haha it feels great! I had too much energy yesterday after working out that I was up til 9 AM today still trying to expend some energy
1) If you're just trying to make friends then why does it matter what they look like?
I think yes and no. People convey things with how they dress and what they put forth in terms of photographs. It doesn't matter deeply but it is good information.
2) When someone tries to talk to you and they're not appealing to you sexually what is your reaction (specifically they COULD be attracted to you but you don't really know why they're talking to you. Let's assume that they are neither interesting/banal or threatening/creepy.)
I generally try to cool them out. Act disinterested/ not interesting while still being polite, and maintain as little contact as possible. If I realize I'm misreading the situation for some reason, then that may change.
I think this is the answer most people will give. And, no jab at you or anyone else, it's the one that is so frustrating for me.
3) Would it bother you if a gay guy said, "I hate gay culture. Gays are annoying and catty. No wonder people won't let gays get married all over." (why/why not?)
Hell yes. Basically for the same reason everyone else stated. I, personally, am not flamboyant or effeminate. When I come out, people are surprised. But that's just who I am; I don't act differently because I don't want to be perceived as gay. I am who I am, and I don't present myself differently so society has a more positive view of me. I think guys who are more flamboyant are actually really courageous; it's a really hard in this culture to be effeminate. I stand up for people being able to be who they are whenever I can.
Hm. I agree with you that people have a hard time if they're more on the "fem side of the scale" but I want to make the clear distinction that I don't believe catty and annoying inherently mean fem.
4) If you perceive there are problems in the gay world do you believe you can make a difference? Would you want to/have you tried?
I wish it were less hook-up oriented. I don't care enough though to make a difference; each person's tastes are theirs. That is just me interjecting my own desires into the community, which may or may not be for everyone's benefit.
This is actually my approach to most things when it comes to philosophy. I don't believe i have the right to tell you, you're wrong or right. I won't try to change your mind because I don't have to be right either. I will share my belief if you ask me or if a situation arises where it could be helpful to have another perspective on things.
Hookups: I don't hate them. they're not optimal. I don't care if that's all someone wants from me, but if the conversation is really good I probably won't put out.
blue, can you explain your signature? Where is the quote from and what is it's significance?
Also, throwing this out for discussion by edit, how do ya'll tend to react to "that's gay" when someone says it? What do you all generally say, if anything?
blue, can you explain your signature? Where is the quote from and what is it's significance?
I know its a line from the movie "Clue" spoken by one, Ms. Peacock. I've seen the movie enough to remember that much.....but as to the meaning, I have no clue on my part.
blue, can you explain your signature? Where is the quote from and what is it's significance?
Also, throwing this out for discussion by edit, how do ya'll tend to react to "that's gay" when someone says it? What do you all generally say, if anything?
I start ragging on how everything is freaking "breeder". Then I start ragging on breeders. Eventually, they shut up.
blue, can you explain your signature? Where is the quote from and what is it's significance?
Also, throwing this out for discussion by edit, how do ya'll tend to react to "that's gay" when someone says it? What do you all generally say, if anything?
I start ragging on how everything is freaking "breeder". Then I start ragging on breeders. Eventually, they shut up.
It's easier to rag on breeders cuz half the breeders are on the rag.
....bahaha.
Signature: Significance? It's one of the funniest lines in the movie. Mrs. Peacock's character is so badass (my favorite) and she gets some of the best lines. This is the most awkward one breathed speech in attempt to make things less awkward and it's just hilarious.
Kraj I think we need to have a viewing party for the gaymers and explain how awesome clue is.
Someone clean up the viewing room and change the movie >_>
On a related note to "that's gay", something I have never heard before I came up. I was in the gym filling my water bottle at the fountain and it was taking forever. A guy came up behind me and after about a minute, I apologized for taking so long. He responded "No, you're straight. No hurry." I have never heard 'straight' used that way. I do not like it. I almost responded "No, actually, I'm not," and had my Gaga ringtone (telephone) gone off, I would have. But I decided to leave it be unless it became something I heard regularly. And by regularly I mean ever again.
Yes. It has a niche use and is otherwise interchangeable with "fine". I don't think there's an established antonym for it.
While not along the same line, I think it's much the same as "let me get this straight." I don't think there's any harm with it, but this is probably from where the non-gays went to get their labeling term. (Segue to Dan Dennett and "Brights," "Supers," and "Murkies.")
I get annoyed by the use of "right" and "left" in political discourse just do to the way language has given multiple meanings to the same sequence of letters. :/
On a related note to "that's gay", something I have never heard before I came up. I was in the gym filling my water bottle at the fountain and it was taking forever. A guy came up behind me and after about a minute, I apologized for taking so long. He responded "No, you're straight. No hurry." I have never heard 'straight' used that way. I do not like it. I almost responded "No, actually, I'm not," and had my Gaga ringtone (telephone) gone off, I would have. But I decided to leave it be unless it became something I heard regularly. And by regularly I mean ever again.
Anyone else heard straight used that way?
Its slang for, "everything is cool, or your in no foul." It comes from crooked cops being corrupt and whats the opposite of crooked....straight.
It was also used to mean not a drug user, a la Jeanie & Charlie Sheen at the police station in Ferris Bueller's Day Off. It's not used much so I understand it being jarring, but it's been around long before gay became a popular synonym for stupid.
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Im not suprised, but at the same time......You are an american company, even if your based off of a religion, you still have to accept all people and not endorse views that alienate your customer base, it'll only end up hurting you.
Im not suprised, but at the same time......You are an american company, even if your based off of a religion, you still have to accept all people and not endorse views that alienate your customer base, it'll only end up hurting you.
Lol based on a religion in this quote makes me laugh. "On the third day god created the birds in the sky and the fish in the sea and he said, eat mor chikin. And it was good...except on Sundays when you ALWAYS crave it."
Even God can't get chik-fil-a on Sundays. Isn't that sacrilegious
if you don't want gay customers, stop serving salads
On a serious note: the article states that there's an agenda to go back to the original definition of marriage in the bible. No offense but if that's the case you need to embrace the WHOLE of the bible. When you pick and choose what laws you follow to suit what you currently believe, you're being discriminatory. When you follow the whole of the text or all of the laws of some doctrine then whatever you do isn't discrimination because you have some personal bias; it's your religion. That's what you HAVE to do to follow it.
Aw man you know what's heartwarming is when you give someone a chance, talk to them, and they just really touch your heart. A coworker that a few people don't really like (and have said so) and I were talking in the break room on my a little longer than fifteen >_>. (it was an accident, I'm really a hard worker we just got carried away). It was cool to know it was her birthday and she was turning 51 that she had 5 kids and four of them were boys. Her daughter was going to Alabama soon and three of her boys already graduated college to which she said, "I'm not going to pay you for good grades. When you graduate with a college degree and can get a great job THAT will be your reward." It was sad to learn her husband is a cancer survivor and even after going through that now his liver is shot because of heredity (and some drinking) and he's on a donor list. She was tearing up and I was about to cry and then we changed subjects to me and then I was talking about boys and then I almost started to cry.
Sometimes it's a good thing when coworkers touch each other deeply.
(yes after all that and how sweet it was I'm still a pervert XD)
Also, throwing this out for discussion by edit, how do ya'll tend to react to "that's gay" when someone says it? What do you all generally say, if anything?
I did it tonight kicking a drunken slob and his friends out of my hotel's pool area. He told me "that's ****ing gay" to which I responded "If by gay you mean, the law, then yes this is as fruity as a law book."
I heard from the manager on after me that his girlfriend called the cops on him for hitting her in their hotel room a couple hours after I bounced them from the pool. What a prince.
I completely agree with the Wanda Sykes thing. I've actually done something similar to that at work, when some of the idiot kinds insist on using 'gay' to refer to whichever Call of Duty/Battlefield they don't like.
I usually try to make my point with a little relaxed humor as long as I don't think anything intentionally malicious was being expressed. For example, at a Legacy tournament this Sunday someone blurt out to another player (they're both straight guys and friends who often roughhouse tease each other), "You can go swallow a big, throbbing ___." At which point I piped up, "Hey! Why are you wishing him a Merry Christmas? Where's my stocking stuffer?" Chuckling ensued.
My friends and I are always quoting lines in movies in our everyday conversations because....well they're fun and a way to remember good times together
Here's a list of the top ten that I use:
10: What are you saying about?
9: It's sophisticated looking!
8: I AM a Woman now!
7: Why, do you want a little? Cuz, if you're going to drink, I'd rather you do it in the house.
6: I'll be the experienced sophomore, you'll be the hot new freshman.
5: This is the fertility vase of the Undabelly Tribe. Does that mean anything to you?
4: It's pronounced like Katie.
3: VeeeeEEEEErrrry Goood!
2: We go together.
1: *nods*...*shakes head no*
I'm interested if any of y'all do this and if you do what's your list like?
I do mostly references to stand-up comics and movies. Not directly in most cases. If I do end up direct-quoting, it's usually going to be from a comic.
One of my most common ones is "**** it, build a house." Quoting the comedian Mitch Hedburg. It gets more obscure from there.
Blue, my brother and I will have entire conversations consisting of nothing but movie, Simpsons, and South Park quotes. I've been quoting Archer a lot lately. I dunno if I have a list of common ones. I'll have to start paying attention now. :/ My bro and I do have a tradition of responding to the word "five" with: "5?" "Yes, just 5."
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I do mostly references to stand-up comics and movies. Not directly in most cases. If I do end up direct-quoting, it's usually going to be from a comic.
One of my most common ones is "**** it, build a house." Quoting the comedian Mitch Hedburg. It gets more obscure from there.
This is also acceptable to list out. My friend Lauren quotes Hedburg all the time.
Blue, my brother and I will have entire conversations consisting of nothing but movie, Simpsons, and South Park quotes. I've been quoting Archer a lot lately. I dunno if I have a list of common ones. I'll have to start paying attention now. :/ My bro and I do have a tradition of responding to the word "five" with: "5?" "Yes, just 5."
I also use "It's my DEFENSE mechanism." a lot. This is why we're friends Kraj. And also the obvious mutual sexual attraction.
It's not really something I notice, which is the problem. If I'm making references, I'm usually not doing it consciously. Sometimes I do, but it's more of a spur of the moment thing. Ever watch A Series of Unfortunate Events? Whenever Klaus is remembering a book? That's kind of how my memory works. Someone says something that triggers a memory, and I respond in kind.
A lot of them are things that me and my best friend Mitch do back and forth. For instance, we did Halo 1-3 together, so we do quote a few of those lines back and forth. One of our most common is "Flames make it go faster!" "What is your scientific explanation for this?" "I'm nine!", from Futurama. Anytime we notice Troll Science, we're likely to do that. The Flaming Warthog preorder bonus from Halo Wars caused that just about every time we activated it.
I do Spaceballs ones from time to time, usually "Ludicrous speed" and "They've gone to plaid".
10: What are you saying about?
9: It's sophisticated looking!
8: I AM a Woman now!
7: Why, do you want a little? Cuz, if you're going to drink, I'd rather you do it in the house. Mean Girls
6: I'll be the experienced sophomore, you'll be the hot new freshman.
5: This is the fertility vase of the Undabelly Tribe. Does that mean anything to you? Mean Girls, again
4: It's pronounced like Katie. MEAN GIRLS!!!
3: VeeeeEEEEErrrry Goood! Kill Bill?
2: We go together. .... Grease?
1: *nods*...*shakes head no* I've seen this before but I have no idea where it comes from....
10: What are you saying about?
9: It's sophisticated looking!
8: I AM a Woman now!
7: Why, do you want a little? Cuz, if you're going to drink, I'd rather you do it in the house. Mean Girls
6: I'll be the experienced sophomore, you'll be the hot new freshman.
5: This is the fertility vase of the Undabelly Tribe. Does that mean anything to you? Mean Girls, again
4: It's pronounced like Katie. MEAN GIRLS!!!
3: VeeeeEEEEErrrry Goood! Kill Bill?
2: We go together. .... Grease?
1: *nods*...*shakes head no* I've seen this before but I have no idea where it comes from....
Hee hee.
10. Mean girls
9. Dream Girls
8. Dream Girls
7. Mean Girls
6. Bring it On
5. Mean Girls
4. Mean Girls
3. KILL BILL Good job!!!
2. Clue
1. Clue
Oh man I had an IdeaR!!!!
we should have a gaymers playlist. I like learning about new music and I figure if each of us suggests 4 songs. No repeats of other people and try to mix it up to show your range of musical taste. Then we'll just make a playlist and I know my intention is to just let it run in the background while I'm doing other things and see what catches my ear
Yep, feels really good. Keep it up!
1) If you're just trying to make friends then why does it matter what they look like?
I think yes and no. People convey things with how they dress and what they put forth in terms of photographs. It doesn't matter deeply but it is good information.
2) When someone tries to talk to you and they're not appealing to you sexually what is your reaction (specifically they COULD be attracted to you but you don't really know why they're talking to you. Let's assume that they are neither interesting/banal or threatening/creepy.)
I generally try to cool them out. Act disinterested/ not interesting while still being polite, and maintain as little contact as possible. If I realize I'm misreading the situation for some reason, then that may change.
3) Would it bother you if a gay guy said, "I hate gay culture. Gays are annoying and catty. No wonder people won't let gays get married all over." (why/why not?)
Hell yes. Basically for the same reason everyone else stated. I, personally, am not flamboyant or effeminate. When I come out, people are surprised. But that's just who I am; I don't act differently because I don't want to be perceived as gay. I am who I am, and I don't present myself differently so society has a more positive view of me. I think guys who are more flamboyant are actually really courageous; it's a really hard in this culture to be effeminate. I stand up for people being able to be who they are whenever I can.
4) If you perceive there are problems in the gay world do you believe you can make a difference? Would you want to/have you tried?
I wish it were less hook-up oriented. I don't care enough though to make a difference; each person's tastes are theirs. That is just me interjecting my own desires into the community, which may or may not be for everyone's benefit.
5) In your culture (this came up because of my hispanic gay friends) is it difficult for you to be gay/come out? I know it can be difficult for anyone, but I know there's a level of expected machismo for my Mexican American friends specifically that makes it especially difficult to come out to their families.
Not as hard as a lot of places, but not as easy as others. Not much else to say.
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Let's say you know what they look like, they're just ugly. I guess it ties into question two of they're ugly but they're talking to you. What's the aversion to talking to them in a friendly way that sells friendship over romance?
For me it wholly depends on what they're saying to me. I'll talk to anyone, but if they intimate that the sole reason they're talking to me is to screw then I let them know I'm not interested. If I get the feeling that they only want to be friends to screw then I let them know I'm not interested.
It's not for everyone. I am trying to meet gays other ways but I've had moderate enough success with this that I'm going to keep using it. Analyzing it is giving me something to do at the very least
In context this was from a conversation with a 20 year old gay guy in a gay college. I'll have to ask why he feels so strongly that this is the way the gay community is. I'm going to convince him that while it may seem like that's the only way things are, there are people worth finding who defy this definition.
i mean with regards to anything you perceive as a problem. For me it involves the latter though.
Where ARE you going to grad school anyway? Down south right >:D
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Let's say you're me. STOP LOOKING DOWN THERE! You're on grindr. *slap* don't touch it. You're out to make friends, dates, sexcetera. You come across another guy who is 6'5" and you think "Awesome, tall gays!" and his status says "Dating" and profile "Looking for friends." You message the guy asking if he's found it "difficult to find friends on here/avoid the guys looking for hookups" and the response is "Why do you care?" You're friendly and non-sexual in tone (if you can imagine me being not sexual) and then you get no response.
If you're me then you think, "Well...this guy says he wants friends but won't talk to me...I'm being friendly and appropriate so what's with the perceived animosity and cold shoulder?"
If you're him you can't know really that all I want is friendship from you ESPECIALLY because you're already dating someone. This begs the question who the heck are you on grindr to meet if that's how you treat people?
2) When someone tries to talk to you and they're not appealing to you sexually what is your reaction
I'm assuming this is still specifically referring to online communication? In that case, and assuming no other factors involved, I'll probably just ignore the person. Not to out this in a douchey way or anything, but I've got a husband and I've got a pretty solid group of friends. I'm happy to meet cool people/new friends via online stuff if that's how it works out, but the reason I'm talking to someone online is sexual. So if there's no sexual interest, there's no communication interest.[/quote]
situation outlined above: You're on grindr but you say looking for friends only and you're dating.
I think it means they're spending too much time around people that reflect that part of our culture. I'm not going to say it doesn't exist, but certainly that's not all there is. It's like looking at a rose and only seeing the thorns, the bee, and how your mother is allergic so you don't really have an appreciation for flowers.
I am making changes for purely selfish reasons. I am going to be myself and be as outgoing and nice as possible to gays and quash whatever I can of this cattiness because I don't want it around me, never fear that people are talking about me behind my back, and want to be accepted for who I am.
When people say gays are catty I like to say, "It's pronounced like Katey." ...or I try really hard not to :D. I have a really strong personality (read STUBBORN AS HELL) but I did consider that scenario exactly.
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I think this is the answer most people will give. And, no jab at you or anyone else, it's the one that is so frustrating for me.
Hm. I agree with you that people have a hard time if they're more on the "fem side of the scale" but I want to make the clear distinction that I don't believe catty and annoying inherently mean fem.
This is actually my approach to most things when it comes to philosophy. I don't believe i have the right to tell you, you're wrong or right. I won't try to change your mind because I don't have to be right either. I will share my belief if you ask me or if a situation arises where it could be helpful to have another perspective on things.
Hookups: I don't hate them. they're not optimal. I don't care if that's all someone wants from me, but if the conversation is really good I probably won't put out.
Will check it in a little bit.
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Also, throwing this out for discussion by edit, how do ya'll tend to react to "that's gay" when someone says it? What do you all generally say, if anything?
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I know its a line from the movie "Clue" spoken by one, Ms. Peacock. I've seen the movie enough to remember that much.....but as to the meaning, I have no clue on my part.
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Kraj I think we need to have a viewing party for the gaymers and explain how awesome clue is.
Someone clean up the viewing room and change the movie >_>
Anyone else heard straight used that way?
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While not along the same line, I think it's much the same as "let me get this straight." I don't think there's any harm with it, but this is probably from where the non-gays went to get their labeling term. (Segue to Dan Dennett and "Brights," "Supers," and "Murkies.")
I get annoyed by the use of "right" and "left" in political discourse just do to the way language has given multiple meanings to the same sequence of letters. :/
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=straight (ok maybe not niche)
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Its slang for, "everything is cool, or your in no foul." It comes from crooked cops being corrupt and whats the opposite of crooked....straight.
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Chick-fil-a is anti-gay
Im not suprised, but at the same time......You are an american company, even if your based off of a religion, you still have to accept all people and not endorse views that alienate your customer base, it'll only end up hurting you.
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething SpicyLol based on a religion in this quote makes me laugh. "On the third day god created the birds in the sky and the fish in the sea and he said, eat mor chikin. And it was good...except on Sundays when you ALWAYS crave it."
Even God can't get chik-fil-a on Sundays. Isn't that sacrilegious
if you don't want gay customers, stop serving salads
On a serious note: the article states that there's an agenda to go back to the original definition of marriage in the bible. No offense but if that's the case you need to embrace the WHOLE of the bible. When you pick and choose what laws you follow to suit what you currently believe, you're being discriminatory. When you follow the whole of the text or all of the laws of some doctrine then whatever you do isn't discrimination because you have some personal bias; it's your religion. That's what you HAVE to do to follow it.
Aw man you know what's heartwarming is when you give someone a chance, talk to them, and they just really touch your heart. A coworker that a few people don't really like (and have said so) and I were talking in the break room on my a little longer than fifteen >_>. (it was an accident, I'm really a hard worker we just got carried away). It was cool to know it was her birthday and she was turning 51 that she had 5 kids and four of them were boys. Her daughter was going to Alabama soon and three of her boys already graduated college to which she said, "I'm not going to pay you for good grades. When you graduate with a college degree and can get a great job THAT will be your reward." It was sad to learn her husband is a cancer survivor and even after going through that now his liver is shot because of heredity (and some drinking) and he's on a donor list. She was tearing up and I was about to cry and then we changed subjects to me and then I was talking about boys and then I almost started to cry.
Sometimes it's a good thing when coworkers touch each other deeply.
(yes after all that and how sweet it was I'm still a pervert XD)
I did it tonight kicking a drunken slob and his friends out of my hotel's pool area. He told me "that's ****ing gay" to which I responded "If by gay you mean, the law, then yes this is as fruity as a law book."
I heard from the manager on after me that his girlfriend called the cops on him for hitting her in their hotel room a couple hours after I bounced them from the pool. What a prince.
Also, Wanda Sykes killed it.
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Here's a list of the top ten that I use:
10: What are you saying about?
9: It's sophisticated looking!
8: I AM a Woman now!
7: Why, do you want a little? Cuz, if you're going to drink, I'd rather you do it in the house.
6: I'll be the experienced sophomore, you'll be the hot new freshman.
5: This is the fertility vase of the Undabelly Tribe. Does that mean anything to you?
4: It's pronounced like Katie.
3: VeeeeEEEEErrrry Goood!
2: We go together.
1: *nods*...*shakes head no*
I'm interested if any of y'all do this and if you do what's your list like?
One of my most common ones is "**** it, build a house." Quoting the comedian Mitch Hedburg. It gets more obscure from there.
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Blue, my brother and I will have entire conversations consisting of nothing but movie, Simpsons, and South Park quotes. I've been quoting Archer a lot lately. I dunno if I have a list of common ones. I'll have to start paying attention now. :/ My bro and I do have a tradition of responding to the word "five" with: "5?" "Yes, just 5."
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This is also acceptable to list out. My friend Lauren quotes Hedburg all the time.
I also use "It's my DEFENSE mechanism." a lot. This is why we're friends Kraj. And also the obvious mutual sexual attraction.
A lot of them are things that me and my best friend Mitch do back and forth. For instance, we did Halo 1-3 together, so we do quote a few of those lines back and forth. One of our most common is "Flames make it go faster!" "What is your scientific explanation for this?" "I'm nine!", from Futurama. Anytime we notice Troll Science, we're likely to do that. The Flaming Warthog preorder bonus from Halo Wars caused that just about every time we activated it.
I do Spaceballs ones from time to time, usually "Ludicrous speed" and "They've gone to plaid".
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9: It's sophisticated looking!
8: I AM a Woman now!
7: Why, do you want a little? Cuz, if you're going to drink, I'd rather you do it in the house. Mean Girls
6: I'll be the experienced sophomore, you'll be the hot new freshman.
5: This is the fertility vase of the Undabelly Tribe. Does that mean anything to you? Mean Girls, again
4: It's pronounced like Katie. MEAN GIRLS!!!
3: VeeeeEEEEErrrry Goood! Kill Bill?
2: We go together. .... Grease?
1: *nods*...*shakes head no* I've seen this before but I have no idea where it comes from....
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we should have a gaymers playlist. I like learning about new music and I figure if each of us suggests 4 songs. No repeats of other people and try to mix it up to show your range of musical taste. Then we'll just make a playlist and I know my intention is to just let it run in the background while I'm doing other things and see what catches my ear