EDS: Nick...I was waiting for you and Talena to respond to Alex...not your response to you woman. I have offered to buy lunch to homeless people. I have offered to provide them with a job paying more than $10 an hour. Most of them refuse. Even if they are hungry they just want the money for their use. They say they want a job...but they never...at least around here...never follow up and come in for the position. Why work...I mean really work when you can walk a street corner with a cup during the traffic light cycles. You figure...you get 1 dollar for every other cycle....anywhere from 200 to 300 cycles a day...that gives you roughly $100+ a day. Sure...some days are worse...some better...but you get exercise, fresh-ish air, you don't have to bathe.
I believe that I said everything to Alex that I needed to..he hasn't stated any new information, so, there's nothing else for me to respond to, right?
It's unfortunate that some people would rather milk the sympathies of others to make money than earn a normal living. But, that's life. Not every homeless person out there is just trying to manipulate the system, and like I said, I'll always give people the benefit of the doubt.
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You loathe that? Does this happen often for you, causing a lot of loathing in your life?
There is not alot of loathing in my life. However, considering that this is the staple generic response to get out of social responsibility towards others, it's something that everyone hears often enough.
From what I heard in Alberta about BC (so this is gonna be a bit biased) is that the mentality in BC is quite different. High taxes to support community things and the government pays for a lot with the tax money. I was told that a lot of people work seasonally and collect welfare at other times and that there are more homeless on the streets. Albertans seem to think that people in BC (in general) have a much lower will to work, so this may explain Daron and Alex's positions a bit more. Guys please correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't actually seen much of BC so I'm just repeating what I've been told.
Here, in Ottawa, there is also lots of homeless beggers around. Though you see way more of them in the summer. They sit around the major bus stops and wait for people to come off. Some claim to need bus money, some food and others just sit there with a hat. You also see a lot of people with an instrument (usually guitars) and the case open. Personally, I occasionally give money, it depends on the person. I usually go with what my instinct tells me. A couple years ago, when I worked at OpinionSearch (doing phone surveys), every day I would pass 2-3 older guys at the top of the stair leading down from the bridge beside the canal. I would usually spare whatever change I had for them because I often saw them with Tim Horton's cups or McDonald's food. I'm also more likely to give to someone who took the time to learn an instrument and sits there all day playing.
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Can you guess what he said? “Why should I trust you with my food?” I was dumbfounded by such boldness.
Maybe because of the mentality a lot of people have towards homeless he was worried about being drugged or poisoned. If not, I don't understand why a homeless person, even if they are trying to feed an addiction, wouldn't take food offered. A while ago there was a scandal around here when a group of teens were begging for food together. Some guy went to Subway and bought a bunch of subs for them and they refused them because they'd wanted money...
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Sorry to barge in, but I've been reading on your discussion and thought I'd throw my opinions into the mixing pot as it has been a rather interesting discussion thus far.
I understand the fear of giving homeless people money due to their likelihood of using drugs or alcohol (let's face it, at least a majority of them are involved in such things, at least, in the areas I've lived).
Which is EXACTLY why when I've money and one asks me for money for food, I offer to head on down to McDonald's with them and get them a sandwich. If they're really after food, they'll walk down to the fast food joint with me, get a meal, and I know I've done a good thing. If they don't tag along, then, they're either too stubborn to put forth the effort to walk a little ways, or they never really wanted food in the first place. Either way, I'm not supplying them with drugs, I'm helping people who really do need it, and I don't have any sense of guilt that I might be doing more harm than good.
Now I understand a lot of us have busy schedules and can't take time to walk down to McDonald's with a homeless person to buy them a meal, but I think the principle still applies. Even if you asked them to wait there while you drove to McDonald's and got them something, you're still not running the risk of accidentally supplying drugs/alcohol.
Damn. I definitely didn't see it coming, but I can see how it is relevant if you posted pics or something (which I don't play MTG anymore, so I wouldn't really know, hehe). All I can say is that I hope it works out the best for you, I've never been sued before so I'm not sure what more I can say on the matter.
Yeah, thanks Sean. I have to say I don't know anything more than anyone else - I just read the thing myself! It's pretty crazy. I can't believe I finally got my name on wotc's site!
In other news, there are no homeless people in my backyard at the current time.
I slept all day and then got up to be with my boys. My wife and I had dinner, and she went off to work for the night. I gave the boys a bath, played with them, read a story, and put them in bed. Now I'm relaxing! Well, I'm supposed to be relaxing... the whole "lawsuit" thing is somewhat annoying.
I changed my banner again - Called banner for a while!
No one worry about Daron. I have my unofficial Lawyer writting a document that says Daron has no legal responisbile for believablitly of such rumors, has not signed a non-disclosure agreement, blah blah blah lawyer talk.
So basically, Daron is 100% in the clear
It's not like they're trying to get much out of Daron anyway. This is most likely in response to those 'playtest scans'(considering the way the press release thing was worded) that he posted a month or two ago. If it wasn't, it would have come up a long time ago.
I'm sure they're just going to milk him for whatever contact information he has on his sources, which undoubtedly isn't alot(certainly no real names, just email addresses and IM contacts, which most likely contain forged info anyway) and they'll likely elicit some sort of legally binding promise, from him, to not post leaked info anymore. That's all they can realistically hope to gain, it's not like he's profitted off of it.
Just saw the news regarding Daron. Nice to see that after all these years Wizards decides now is the time to try and start some crap with Daron. It is a b.s. legal threat, intended only to squelch his sources.
I just wanted to let you know Daron that I have been watching Law and Order for years, and am well versed in legalise speak. If you'd like I'd be happy to draw up a letter informing Wizards that their lawsuit has been counterspelled while on the stack.
FNM today. Result: I suck. Most cards played against me were in English so I can't claim the language barrier. I just haven't played much. I can't even think of where I made my mistakes.
My first opponent played some blue/red deck heavy on the drawing. I was able to drown him with saprolings the first game, but game two and three saw plenty of counters, urzatron, a burn for 15 damage, and a "clear my board" by dealing two damage to each creature and player. Yeah....death to me.
So while I waited for my next opponent I purchased some deck enhansers. Make my Preconstruct deck show a little more teath. I bought 3 sagataurs, that destroy all non-token creatures, and two dawn fellas that pump out white flyers. That auta help.
My second oponent came in with a black/blue deck. The necratals ripped me to pieces as did his hipnotic spectors. My creature pumpers were given -3/-3 and an equipment that puts two tokens that are removable for killer effects finished me off.
So once again I went out and bought more cards. For the night I bought two packs and pumped in about $7 worth of cards for this deck. Instead of moving away from token reliance I actualy moved towards it. With a total of nine creatures that put into play creatures. Four create saprolings, 3 that create 1/1 flying spirits, and two that create snakes. Yeah, moved away from the block.
My last opponent I played against for fun earlier, he plays a white weenie deck. He has a real annoying habit of scouping when things don't go his way. I mean he was at 20 life and I bairly got board controll and he scouped. Well the first game I got out a sageataur, that critter that allows you to tap four creatures to kill an enchantment or artifact, a saproling pumper, and the legendary creature that gives white/green critters +1/+1 and can make a wolf. He scouped when he say that. The second game saw me with three plains the entire time and the third game saw me with plenty of land but with the cheapest casting cost spell in my hand being 5.
So my second FNM and first taste of magic in over a year yielded me with a 0:3 rating. I figure that in my haste to increase the ability of my deck I skewed the manacurve too far to the right. I plan to replace much with the 3/3 wolf for w/g, the 2/2 that can turn into a 1/1 flyer, and the guildmage. I also need to add versitility to the deck. Thats the strength of white anyway. That three mana to remove a blocking or blocked creature is a must. Maybe replace the 2/4 disenchanting elf with a real disenchant or something.
I would love to make this FNM a weekly haunt, but I doubt I can afford it. It only costs $3.00 to get in. But it takes an hour by train/subway and a total of $13.00
Tomorrow is the Prerelease....woot. Printed out both spoilers so I have reference of what the cards are. Cost me $14.00 to print out 28 pages so I hope it is worth it.
Daggertooth
Edit: Daron, have they officialy contacted you with anything yet? Thats the kind of thing that can spoil alot of people away from thier product. I mean it is not like the entire set was leaked even. Tomorrow is the prerelease and there are still several unknown cards. What are they thinking.
No time to get into the "homeless are all lazy druggies that deserve what they get" discussion. Though I do have an opinion about it.
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Chris, I can help you work on the deck, working under the premise that you're on a budget and can't just buy all of the best cards for it. There are plenty of good commons/uncommons that you can add to the Selesnya Pre-Con to make it better.
It's funny listening to you describe a bunch of cards by what they do, heh. It's like a fun trivia game.
Man I love Chris's rants. They are such a great way to start the morning. I jsut woke up this morning...came into work and the first thing I see is that our guy is getting sued by the MAN! Great! I agree with everyone so far..(Nick) that this is aboot the scans a while back of the sucky card that I thought were already printed in Mirage. I started reading the "sues" thread but at 20+ pages I thought that I should do some work first.;)
Daron....I know you're not really worried aboot it but if you just want to talk I'm on AIM now....through Trillian;)...and to the rest of you in the ol Clan....my screen name is ....ofcourse... jonnyjonski! (It's amazing that I can go to any domain and get that screen name.) I tried to get an account on AIM the other day and it seems that I already made one:p
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I thought this was funny, so I'm gonna wear my support of you r_e!
cheers to the wolf + r_e_t_t
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edit - somebody is already wearing the soap one
I'll wear the other one then
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Those banners are hilarious! Your listening to Prison Sex must have given you the soap idea.
It's just that silly. We love r_e, + he's a good guy! I understand needing to plug leaks to keep the ship afloat, but this is a good business move?
Banners were chopped by the Wolf on the MT thread!
We're breakin records today boy! Everyone and their mothers are coming here and trying to get their $.02 aboot the Rancored Gate Scandel!
People are even creating accounts just so they can post and be heard.:crazy:
I'm still going to the pre-release...I think that Daron should go....I guarantee that he would get a standing ovation upon entry! How cool/annoying would that be?
You guys are great!
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Yes, Yes daron is very popular right now.. im sure hes lovin the attention.. hey maybe he can get some hot girl or something becuase of this...
kidding... but anyway *huggles to the daron* no worries here
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I'm suprised no one has made any speculation in why I went from the Avatar and Signature shops, to Speak Your Mind, to Humor Games... I would have thought it would be the first thing they would have started guessing at...
I think the next move will be more obvious, or at least I hope so :S
I havn't had a guess that's been close... Some on the right track though!
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I believe that I said everything to Alex that I needed to..he hasn't stated any new information, so, there's nothing else for me to respond to, right?
It's unfortunate that some people would rather milk the sympathies of others to make money than earn a normal living. But, that's life. Not every homeless person out there is just trying to manipulate the system, and like I said, I'll always give people the benefit of the doubt.
There is not alot of loathing in my life. However, considering that this is the staple generic response to get out of social responsibility towards others, it's something that everyone hears often enough.
Here, in Ottawa, there is also lots of homeless beggers around. Though you see way more of them in the summer. They sit around the major bus stops and wait for people to come off. Some claim to need bus money, some food and others just sit there with a hat. You also see a lot of people with an instrument (usually guitars) and the case open. Personally, I occasionally give money, it depends on the person. I usually go with what my instinct tells me. A couple years ago, when I worked at OpinionSearch (doing phone surveys), every day I would pass 2-3 older guys at the top of the stair leading down from the bridge beside the canal. I would usually spare whatever change I had for them because I often saw them with Tim Horton's cups or McDonald's food. I'm also more likely to give to someone who took the time to learn an instrument and sits there all day playing.
Maybe because of the mentality a lot of people have towards homeless he was worried about being drugged or poisoned. If not, I don't understand why a homeless person, even if they are trying to feed an addiction, wouldn't take food offered. A while ago there was a scandal around here when a group of teens were begging for food together. Some guy went to Subway and bought a bunch of subs for them and they refused them because they'd wanted money...
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Sorry to barge in, but I've been reading on your discussion and thought I'd throw my opinions into the mixing pot as it has been a rather interesting discussion thus far.
I understand the fear of giving homeless people money due to their likelihood of using drugs or alcohol (let's face it, at least a majority of them are involved in such things, at least, in the areas I've lived).
Which is EXACTLY why when I've money and one asks me for money for food, I offer to head on down to McDonald's with them and get them a sandwich. If they're really after food, they'll walk down to the fast food joint with me, get a meal, and I know I've done a good thing. If they don't tag along, then, they're either too stubborn to put forth the effort to walk a little ways, or they never really wanted food in the first place. Either way, I'm not supplying them with drugs, I'm helping people who really do need it, and I don't have any sense of guilt that I might be doing more harm than good.
Now I understand a lot of us have busy schedules and can't take time to walk down to McDonald's with a homeless person to buy them a meal, but I think the principle still applies. Even if you asked them to wait there while you drove to McDonald's and got them something, you're still not running the risk of accidentally supplying drugs/alcohol.
Well that's my take anyways. Buhbye Called.
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Damn. I definitely didn't see it coming, but I can see how it is relevant if you posted pics or something (which I don't play MTG anymore, so I wouldn't really know, hehe). All I can say is that I hope it works out the best for you, I've never been sued before so I'm not sure what more I can say on the matter.
Good luck, Daron. /salute
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This is a sig. Yes it is.
In other news, there are no homeless people in my backyard at the current time.
I slept all day and then got up to be with my boys. My wife and I had dinner, and she went off to work for the night. I gave the boys a bath, played with them, read a story, and put them in bed. Now I'm relaxing! Well, I'm supposed to be relaxing... the whole "lawsuit" thing is somewhat annoying.
I changed my banner again - Called banner for a while!
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So basically, Daron is 100% in the clear
I'm sure they're just going to milk him for whatever contact information he has on his sources, which undoubtedly isn't alot(certainly no real names, just email addresses and IM contacts, which most likely contain forged info anyway) and they'll likely elicit some sort of legally binding promise, from him, to not post leaked info anymore. That's all they can realistically hope to gain, it's not like he's profitted off of it.
Just saw the news regarding Daron. Nice to see that after all these years Wizards decides now is the time to try and start some crap with Daron. It is a b.s. legal threat, intended only to squelch his sources.
I just wanted to let you know Daron that I have been watching Law and Order for years, and am well versed in legalise speak. If you'd like I'd be happy to draw up a letter informing Wizards that their lawsuit has been counterspelled while on the stack.
Thank You All and Good Night,
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Nevermind the sheer lack of anything relevant in your post.
FNM today. Result: I suck. Most cards played against me were in English so I can't claim the language barrier. I just haven't played much. I can't even think of where I made my mistakes.
My first opponent played some blue/red deck heavy on the drawing. I was able to drown him with saprolings the first game, but game two and three saw plenty of counters, urzatron, a burn for 15 damage, and a "clear my board" by dealing two damage to each creature and player. Yeah....death to me.
So while I waited for my next opponent I purchased some deck enhansers. Make my Preconstruct deck show a little more teath. I bought 3 sagataurs, that destroy all non-token creatures, and two dawn fellas that pump out white flyers. That auta help.
My second oponent came in with a black/blue deck. The necratals ripped me to pieces as did his hipnotic spectors. My creature pumpers were given -3/-3 and an equipment that puts two tokens that are removable for killer effects finished me off.
So once again I went out and bought more cards. For the night I bought two packs and pumped in about $7 worth of cards for this deck. Instead of moving away from token reliance I actualy moved towards it. With a total of nine creatures that put into play creatures. Four create saprolings, 3 that create 1/1 flying spirits, and two that create snakes. Yeah, moved away from the block.
My last opponent I played against for fun earlier, he plays a white weenie deck. He has a real annoying habit of scouping when things don't go his way. I mean he was at 20 life and I bairly got board controll and he scouped. Well the first game I got out a sageataur, that critter that allows you to tap four creatures to kill an enchantment or artifact, a saproling pumper, and the legendary creature that gives white/green critters +1/+1 and can make a wolf. He scouped when he say that. The second game saw me with three plains the entire time and the third game saw me with plenty of land but with the cheapest casting cost spell in my hand being 5.
So my second FNM and first taste of magic in over a year yielded me with a 0:3 rating. I figure that in my haste to increase the ability of my deck I skewed the manacurve too far to the right. I plan to replace much with the 3/3 wolf for w/g, the 2/2 that can turn into a 1/1 flyer, and the guildmage. I also need to add versitility to the deck. Thats the strength of white anyway. That three mana to remove a blocking or blocked creature is a must. Maybe replace the 2/4 disenchanting elf with a real disenchant or something.
I would love to make this FNM a weekly haunt, but I doubt I can afford it. It only costs $3.00 to get in. But it takes an hour by train/subway and a total of $13.00
Tomorrow is the Prerelease....woot. Printed out both spoilers so I have reference of what the cards are. Cost me $14.00 to print out 28 pages so I hope it is worth it.
Daggertooth
Edit: Daron, have they officialy contacted you with anything yet? Thats the kind of thing that can spoil alot of people away from thier product. I mean it is not like the entire set was leaked even. Tomorrow is the prerelease and there are still several unknown cards. What are they thinking.
No time to get into the "homeless are all lazy druggies that deserve what they get" discussion. Though I do have an opinion about it.
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If I leave, I will return again to my Rocky Mountain home.
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It's funny listening to you describe a bunch of cards by what they do, heh. It's like a fun trivia game.
Daron....I know you're not really worried aboot it but if you just want to talk I'm on AIM now....through Trillian;)...and to the rest of you in the ol Clan....my screen name is ....ofcourse... jonnyjonski! (It's amazing that I can go to any domain and get that screen name.) I tried to get an account on AIM the other day and it seems that I already made one:p
I thought this was funny, so I'm gonna wear my support of you r_e!
cheers to the wolf + r_e_t_t
currently listening to Tool's Prison Sex
edit - somebody is already wearing the soap one
I'll wear the other one then
*tosses a candycane @ WotC*
I gotta tell ya....I gotta lotta love for this Clan.
R_E behind bars....oh man...I gotta pick myself up!
Those banners are hilarious! Your listening to Prison Sex must have given you the soap idea.
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Homebrew is creating Magic.
Are you a pilot or a creator??
It's just that silly. We love r_e, + he's a good guy! I understand needing to plug leaks to keep the ship afloat, but this is a good business move?
Banners were chopped by the Wolf on the MT thread!
Man is the thread laggy. Settle down folk!
People are even creating accounts just so they can post and be heard.:crazy:
I'm still going to the pre-release...I think that Daron should go....I guarantee that he would get a standing ovation upon entry! How cool/annoying would that be?
You guys are great!
kidding... but anyway *huggles to the daron* no worries here
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I've moved it from the shops, to speak your mind, to humor games.
I'm suprised no one has made any speculation in why I went from the Avatar and Signature shops, to Speak Your Mind, to Humor Games... I would have thought it would be the first thing they would have started guessing at...
I think the next move will be more obvious, or at least I hope so :S
I havn't had a guess that's been close... Some on the right track though!