It remains enchanted, damaging him each of your upkeeps, and he controls it. The two control effects apply in the same layer and so it goes to timestamp and the most recent one applies.
It remains enchanted, damaging him each of your upkeeps, and he controls it. The two control effects apply in the same layer and so it goes to timestamp and the most recent one applies.
That makes sense. I hate it. But it makes sense. If I were to destroy Karrthus, would I regain control of him?
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I am the original Semanticore! (Meaning I coined and defined the term.)
I have Deckbuilder's ADD.
That makes sense. I hate it. But it makes sense. If I were to destroy Karrthus, would I regain control of him?
No, the effect is a one-time ability generated by Karrthus when it EtB and is an independant effect from him. If it said "You control all dragons," then it would be a static effect depending on him. But it doesn't, it's a triggered ability generated by him and independant of him, just like killing a prodigal sorcerer in response to its ping doesn't stop the ping from dealing damage.
No, the effect is a one-time ability generated by Karrthus when it EtB and is an independant effect from him. If it said "You control all dragons," then it would be a static effect depending on him. But it doesn't, it's a triggered ability generated by him and independant of him, just like killing a prodigal sorcerer in response to its ping doesn't stop the ping from dealing damage.
Ah, right. Damn you Karrthus! You anger me vehemently!
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I am the original Semanticore! (Meaning I coined and defined the term.)
I have Deckbuilder's ADD.
Vote 2 Count:
[The Izzet]: The Original Reckless Scholars. - 6 (Gen0, claytonthegreat, wamyc, AI, rfp, Zaz)
[The Izzet] Would Have Gotten Away With it, if it Wasn't for You Meddling Kids! - 2 (Surging Chaos, RFJ) I'll Make Them Good Girls Go [Izzet]. - 1 (Lucknorris)
[The Izzet]: There's a First Time for Everything!
[the Izzet]: Insert is-it Pun Here.
[The Izzet]: Winning Drafts with Mindless Nulls Since '09
[The Izzet]: Once an Izzet, Always an Izzet.
[The Izzet] Is Gonnna Get You Gadget!
[The Izzet]: Time is Abstract. Burning is a Better Way to Send the Message.
[The Izzet]: Get Ready for the Firestorm, *****es.
Freeze it, Burn it, Send it Back in Time, undo it on a Nolecular Level: [Izzet] Options.
[The Izzet]: Keep Messing With The Other Guys' Minds Until You Crash And Burn.
[The Izzet]: Who Wants A Hot Cup of Ice?
To be fair, this deck lost to some extremely awkward draws. Next time I'll draft the ruinous minotaurs, as a crappy attacker is better than no attacker...
This time, there was a lot of hate-drafting going on, so the decks in general were very weak. The one that beat me just slapped nimbus wings on dudes and attacked...
Hiya DarkKnight, I hope you get in, have fun and make stuff go boom.
Um Rocker09, I voted for Keeperofzion btw. Well sorry SurgingChaos.
Well I couldnt go to last weeks FNM sadly, so not much help am I? Anyway you just have to keep on crossing out certain cards and putting other back in.
I remember a deck I used to own with before, can someone check if it still needs work? (I'm trying to revise it)
Vote 2 Count:
[The Izzet]: The Original Reckless Scholars. - 6 (Gen0, claytonthegreat, wamyc, AI, rfp, Zaz)
[The Izzet] Would Have Gotten Away With it, if it Wasn't for You Meddling Kids! - 2 (Surging Chaos, RFJ) I'll Make Them Good Girls Go [Izzet]. - 1 (Lucknorris)
[The Izzet]: There's a First Time for Everything!
[the Izzet]: Insert is-it Pun Here.
[The Izzet]: Winning Drafts with Mindless Nulls Since '09
[The Izzet]: Once an Izzet, Always an Izzet.
[The Izzet] Is Gonnna Get You Gadget!
[The Izzet]: Time is Abstract. Burning is a Better Way to Send the Message.
[The Izzet]: Get Ready for the Firestorm, *****es.
Freeze it, Burn it, Send it Back in Time, undo it on a Nolecular Level: [Izzet] Options.
[The Izzet]: Keep Messing With The Other Guys' Minds Until You Crash And Burn.
[The Izzet]: Who Wants A Hot Cup of Ice?
I really need to convince my friends to play EDH. I want them to badly, but obviously an issue is the cost of the deck. They say that it's just too expensive for them to play. What should I do to convince them?
build a few non expensive legend decks and get them hooked. I did that with a few friends. all the decks don't need sol ring's or demonic tutor even though it nice to have. get them hooked on the fun of playing, I would also recommend not playing your badass deck against them for awhile. sooner or later they'll play.
Could someone help me with the deck I posted in the last page? Its supposed to be a turn-5-6 win though.
My friend called it The Titan's Delay just for no reason.....
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Decks:
Standard: RMinotaur MidrangeB
Modern: GSpider TribalB RArtifractureB
EDH:
MayaelWRG
Reaper KingWUBRG
Niv-MizzetUR
Alesha, Who Smiles At DeathWBR
Sorry, I don't like to vote on certain things like picking who gets promoted. It just seems like I'm choosing between my friends which kind of makes me uncomfortable so I try to avoid it.
The thread title doesn't really matter too much to me, so I just go with the flow in that regard.
Could someone help me with the deck I posted in the last page? Its supposed to be a turn-5-6 win though.
My friend called it The Titan's Delay just for no reason.....
I'll try and post my thoughts after my nap. I need to sleep.
Vote 2 Count:
[The Izzet]: The Original Reckless Scholars. - 7 (Gen0, clayton, wamyc, AI, rfp, Zaz, pheonix)
[The Izzet] Would Have Gotten Away With it, if it Wasn't for You Meddling Kids! - 2 (Surging Chaos, RFJ) I'll Make Them Good Girls Go [Izzet]. - 1 (Lucknorris)
[The Izzet]: There's a First Time for Everything!
[the Izzet]: Insert is-it Pun Here.
[The Izzet]: Winning Drafts with Mindless Nulls Since '09
[The Izzet]: Once an Izzet, Always an Izzet.
[The Izzet] Is Gonnna Get You Gadget!
[The Izzet]: Time is Abstract. Burning is a Better Way to Send the Message.
[The Izzet]: Get Ready for the Firestorm, *****es.
Freeze it, Burn it, Send it Back in Time, undo it on a Nolecular Level: [Izzet] Options.
[The Izzet]: Keep Messing With The Other Guys' Minds Until You Crash And Burn.
[The Izzet]: Who Wants A Hot Cup of Ice?
@DarkKnight: Welcome to the clan. I'm required by statute to describe the other High Mages as dangerous people you should watch out for.
Hey, I resemble that statement! You didn't even let me call him "fresh meat!" I mean, welcome to the Izzet, DK. I hope you enjoy your time with us. :evillol::uhh:^_^
SGC is a great standalone card that makes his own army. You can use him to push through the last amounts of damage, kill creatures to trigger an online Bloodchief Ascension, and charge up an Ascension when needed. It also has good synergy with Goblin Guide.
Have you tested this archetype at all? Is there anything horribly wrong with that build? My sideboard for that deck is pretty bad, but I can post it if you want to see it.
i know that some of the card choices are questionable but i didn't have all the cards i wanted on hand and i didn't want to scramble to much to try and get the cards because i literally built the deck like 5 minutes before the tournament so i didn't really have the time
How would you build that differently assuming you possess all necessary cards?
How would you build that differently assuming you possess all necessary cards?
well for starters i would've put jace and esper charm in there then i would've found a way to fit path's in the i'd probablly end up removing the wall's(both kinds) and lilliaana to fit them in but this is just off the top of my head
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Originally Posted by Ratoly Ah, right. Damn you Karrthus! You anger me vehemently!
18 lands is not enough in a deck that relies on a :5mana:-cost spell to win.
QFT
and as i said i would post a description of some of my matches but all i remember are the most epic wins from my games and there are 2 of them
one was in match 3 game 2(he won the first game) we ran out of time and we went to turns it was turn 4 on me and i had a chandra nalaar with 3 counters on her a ajani vengent with 7 counters on him and a liliaana vess with 8 counters on her and a lightning bolt in hand and niether one of us had a creature. he had 15 life and so i draw a cruel ultimatum and i ping him with chandra(14 life left) then i lightning helix with ajani(11 life left) then i tutor up another lightning bolt with lilaana cast cruel(he's at 6 life) draw the second bolt and double bolt him for the game
the other epic win was in match 4 game 3 this also went to time in round with me on turn four after he just cast a sphinx of the steel wind. he was tapped out with a obelisk of alara also with 6 life left. i had a baneslayer out but couldn't attack cause of the sphinx but i end up drawing a cruel ultimatum(he's at one life) and draw 2 land and a ajani vengeant i play the vengeant and helix him for the game. this was epic cause he had identity crisis'd me twice in one game and i had cast cruel ultimatum twice already but his obilisk of alara had kept him alive through a barrage of baneslayer attacks and cruel ultimatums
That makes sense. I hate it. But it makes sense. If I were to destroy Karrthus, would I regain control of him?
Thanks to Numotflame96 at Maelstrom Graphics!
Acolyte of Elemental Synthesis in The Izzet
I have Deckbuilder's ADD.
No, the effect is a one-time ability generated by Karrthus when it EtB and is an independant effect from him. If it said "You control all dragons," then it would be a static effect depending on him. But it doesn't, it's a triggered ability generated by him and independant of him, just like killing a prodigal sorcerer in response to its ping doesn't stop the ping from dealing damage.
Ah, right. Damn you Karrthus! You anger me vehemently!
Thanks to Numotflame96 at Maelstrom Graphics!
Acolyte of Elemental Synthesis in The Izzet
I have Deckbuilder's ADD.
[The Izzet]: The Original Reckless Scholars. - 6 (Gen0, claytonthegreat, wamyc, AI, rfp, Zaz)
[The Izzet] Would Have Gotten Away With it, if it Wasn't for You Meddling Kids! - 2 (Surging Chaos, RFJ)
I'll Make Them Good Girls Go [Izzet]. - 1 (Lucknorris)
[The Izzet]: There's a First Time for Everything!
[the Izzet]: Insert is-it Pun Here.
[The Izzet]: Winning Drafts with Mindless Nulls Since '09
[The Izzet]: Once an Izzet, Always an Izzet.
[The Izzet] Is Gonnna Get You Gadget!
[The Izzet]: Time is Abstract. Burning is a Better Way to Send the Message.
[The Izzet]: Get Ready for the Firestorm, *****es.
Freeze it, Burn it, Send it Back in Time, undo it on a Nolecular Level: [Izzet] Options.
[The Izzet]: Keep Messing With The Other Guys' Minds Until You Crash And Burn.
[The Izzet]: Who Wants A Hot Cup of Ice?
Vote 3 Count:
Ejdeha - 1 (Zaz)
Keeperofzion - 1 (ratfinkp)
Surging Chaos - 1(RFJ)
Vote 4 Count:
claytonthegreat - 3 (ratfinkp, RFJ, Zaz)
kaipalin
Lucknorris
Why are all you damn dirty High Mages posting and not voting? I abstain only to be the tiebreaker...
In other news, two decks that didn't win drafts:
1 highland berserker
1 warren instigator
1 goblin ruinblaster
1 stonework puma
1 torch slinger
1 shatterskull giant
3 tuktuk grunts
1 muramasa pyromancer
1 trusty machete
1 zektar shrine expedition
1 punishing fire
1 mark of mutiny
2 inferno trap
2 spire barrage
1 unstable footing
17 mountain
1 kor aeronaut
1 makindi shieldmate
1 kabiri evangel
1 kor hookmaster
1 nimana sell-sword
1 hagra diabolist
2 seascape aerialist
1 sea gate loremaster
2 Sheperd of the Lost
1 Sphinx of Lost Truths
1 quest for the gravelord
1 pitfall trap
1 arrow volley trap
1 brave the elements
1 summoner's bane
1 khalni gem
7 plains
7 island
2 swamp
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Also for Vote 3: Surging Chaos
Um Rocker09, I voted for Keeperofzion btw. Well sorry SurgingChaos.
Well I couldnt go to last weeks FNM sadly, so not much help am I? Anyway you just have to keep on crossing out certain cards and putting other back in.
I remember a deck I used to own with before, can someone check if it still needs work? (I'm trying to revise it)
4 Plumeveil
4 Goldenglow Moth
2 Blinding Angel
4 Ornithopter
2 Darksteel Colossus
4 Tinker
2 Fabricate
4 Guilty Conscience
4 Valor Made Real
2 Moment of Silence
2 Silence
8 Island
2 Sejiri Refuge
If it seems to chock'full of rares, um don't worry. (I have them)
Thanks to mcchief111 for the avvy.
Decks:
Standard:
RMinotaur MidrangeB
Modern:
GSpider TribalB
RArtifractureB
EDH:
MayaelWRG
Reaper KingWUBRG
Niv-MizzetUR
Alesha, Who Smiles At DeathWBR
[The Izzet]: The Original Reckless Scholars. - 6 (Gen0, claytonthegreat, wamyc, AI, rfp, Zaz)
[The Izzet] Would Have Gotten Away With it, if it Wasn't for You Meddling Kids! - 2 (Surging Chaos, RFJ)
I'll Make Them Good Girls Go [Izzet]. - 1 (Lucknorris)
[The Izzet]: There's a First Time for Everything!
[the Izzet]: Insert is-it Pun Here.
[The Izzet]: Winning Drafts with Mindless Nulls Since '09
[The Izzet]: Once an Izzet, Always an Izzet.
[The Izzet] Is Gonnna Get You Gadget!
[The Izzet]: Time is Abstract. Burning is a Better Way to Send the Message.
[The Izzet]: Get Ready for the Firestorm, *****es.
Freeze it, Burn it, Send it Back in Time, undo it on a Nolecular Level: [Izzet] Options.
[The Izzet]: Keep Messing With The Other Guys' Minds Until You Crash And Burn.
[The Izzet]: Who Wants A Hot Cup of Ice?
Vote 3 Count:
Ejdeha - 1 (Zaz)
Keeperofzion - 1 (RFJ)
Surging Chaos - 2 (ratfinkp, gen0)
Vote 4 Count:
claytonthegreat - 3 (ratfinkp, RFJ, Zaz)
kaipalin
Lucknorris
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vote 3: Ejdeha
vote 4: Claytonthegreat
My Mafia Stats - My Helpdesk
G Omnath, Locus of Mana U Arcum Dagsson BUG The Mimeoplasm GW Gaddock Teeg X Karn, Silver Golem
My friend called it The Titan's Delay just for no reason.....
Thanks to mcchief111 for the avvy.
Decks:
Standard:
RMinotaur MidrangeB
Modern:
GSpider TribalB
RArtifractureB
EDH:
MayaelWRG
Reaper KingWUBRG
Niv-MizzetUR
Alesha, Who Smiles At DeathWBR
The thread title doesn't really matter too much to me, so I just go with the flow in that regard.
I'll try and post my thoughts after my nap. I need to sleep.
The Izzet
[The Izzet]: The Original Reckless Scholars. - 7 (Gen0, clayton, wamyc, AI, rfp, Zaz, pheonix)
[The Izzet] Would Have Gotten Away With it, if it Wasn't for You Meddling Kids! - 2 (Surging Chaos, RFJ)
I'll Make Them Good Girls Go [Izzet]. - 1 (Lucknorris)
[The Izzet]: There's a First Time for Everything!
[the Izzet]: Insert is-it Pun Here.
[The Izzet]: Winning Drafts with Mindless Nulls Since '09
[The Izzet]: Once an Izzet, Always an Izzet.
[The Izzet] Is Gonnna Get You Gadget!
[The Izzet]: Time is Abstract. Burning is a Better Way to Send the Message.
[The Izzet]: Get Ready for the Firestorm, *****es.
Freeze it, Burn it, Send it Back in Time, undo it on a Nolecular Level: [Izzet] Options.
[The Izzet]: Keep Messing With The Other Guys' Minds Until You Crash And Burn.
[The Izzet]: Who Wants A Hot Cup of Ice?
Vote 3 Count:
Ejdeha - 2 (Zaz, pheonix)
Keeperofzion - 2 (RFJ, clayton)
Surging Chaos - 2 (ratfinkp, gen0)
Vote 4 Count:
claytonthegreat - 4 (ratfinkp, RFJ, Zaz, pheonix)
kaipalin
Lucknorris
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Hey, I resemble that statement! You didn't even let me call him "fresh meat!" I mean, welcome to the Izzet, DK. I hope you enjoy your time with us. :evillol::uhh:^_^
Have you tested this archetype at all? Is there anything horribly wrong with that build? My sideboard for that deck is pretty bad, but I can post it if you want to see it.
How would you build that differently assuming you possess all necessary cards?
18 lands is not enough in a deck that relies on a 5-cost spell to win.
This.
well for starters i would've put jace and esper charm in there then i would've found a way to fit path's in the i'd probablly end up removing the wall's(both kinds) and lilliaana to fit them in but this is just off the top of my head
lol
QFT
and as i said i would post a description of some of my matches but all i remember are the most epic wins from my games and there are 2 of them
one was in match 3 game 2(he won the first game) we ran out of time and we went to turns it was turn 4 on me and i had a chandra nalaar with 3 counters on her a ajani vengent with 7 counters on him and a liliaana vess with 8 counters on her and a lightning bolt in hand and niether one of us had a creature. he had 15 life and so i draw a cruel ultimatum and i ping him with chandra(14 life left) then i lightning helix with ajani(11 life left) then i tutor up another lightning bolt with lilaana cast cruel(he's at 6 life) draw the second bolt and double bolt him for the game
the other epic win was in match 4 game 3 this also went to time in round with me on turn four after he just cast a sphinx of the steel wind. he was tapped out with a obelisk of alara also with 6 life left. i had a baneslayer out but couldn't attack cause of the sphinx but i end up drawing a cruel ultimatum(he's at one life) and draw 2 land and a ajani vengeant i play the vengeant and helix him for the game. this was epic cause he had identity crisis'd me twice in one game and i had cast cruel ultimatum twice already but his obilisk of alara had kept him alive through a barrage of baneslayer attacks and cruel ultimatums
alright i got to get some sleep so cya
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