Hurray for the new thread! but kinda late for me isn't it?
anyway, another toxic day in school has ended. and i just came home from an FNM tourney which i won in 3rd.
other than that, any news?
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And what's up with Psi being a test subject?! not that i don't want him to be, but what happened to the Pokemasters and stuff? that is, if you don't mind me asking, Psi.
And what's up with Psi being a test subject?! not that i don't want him to be, but what happened to the Pokemasters and stuff? that is, if you don't mind me asking, Psi.
It's a long story...if you really wanna know feel free to pm me and I'll tell ya.
But basicly I am back in the Izzet (have for a few weeks now) and I only wanna work back up to a High Mage through being AI's Apprentice and Acolyte.
Guys I could use your advice cause im in a real pickle.
I traded some cards away to a member of this forum with +80% Itrader rating and my delivery confirmation stated that he has recivied that cards, I've PM'ed him multiple times asking if hes sent or even recivied and have got nothing back its been almost over a week since i sent what should i do :(?
Guys I could use your advice cause im in a real pickle.
I traded some cards away to a member of this forum with +80% Itrader rating and my delivery confirmation stated that he has recivied that cards, I've PM'ed him multiple times asking if hes sent or even recivied and have got nothing back its been almost over a week since i sent what should i do :(?
If you are having any problems with a trader that is being unresponsive to your pms, then you should probably contact one of the market street moderators. They should be able to help you.
Before I tackle wamyc's novel, I want to address a point AI made, and I notice that wamyc throws in his thoughts on it, too, but...
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You do realize that more than 90% of English words (for example) are not recognized (Read: understood "correctly") by 100% of English speakers as English words, right?
Indeed. As I read wamyc's longwinded post, this concept came to me. He said, more or less, that words are defined by what the populous believes them to mean. I disagree with this, as you had said, very little of the populous actually knows anything about the words they take for granted every day. Words are abused every second of every day. The question at hand is that of connotation versus denotation. I've never held too much store for the connotation of words, usually sticking to strictly denotation. And thusly, I had quickly discovered that there are no such things as "synonyms". No two words mean the same thing, but people don't know that. Does that mean that "towering" and "gargantuan" mean the same thing (being merely another form of "big"), just because ignorants believe it to be so? Ignorance of the law is no excuse to break it, and ignorance of the proper meaning of words doesn't mean those words suddenly are what you think they are. Yes words are nothing more than tools to portray ideas, and when two people discuss an idea with terminology that they both share an ignorant understanding of, they are able to communicate quite well. But without an understanding of words' power, of words' actual meanings, miscommunication is high. They say "communication is the root of all problems". I don't believe this to be so, I believe ignorance of the power and denotations of words is the problem. I don't often have communication-errors; I do have them (I'm not going to pretend to be perfect... far from it :rolleyes:), but not nearly as regularly as I can remember once having them. As often as I see them around me.
...Holy ****, I just lost a segue... see, this is why I'm an arcane babbler. Not only because I take linguistics and such other (otherwise "meaningless"/overlooked) concepts very seriously, but I can't keep my mind on track for too long.
Let's do it this way, over the next few days I'll take the time to organize my thoughts, and write out a PM to myself, and then I'll submit my full response here. I feel like a schizophrenic lag-goblin just now... this is why I can't keep a job...
Edit: Oh and, I'm going to start using spoiler-tags... keep the thread deceptively short.
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I would add more kazuul warlord because he is really good.
Fetches are better for ramping than Terramorphic Expanse Rampant Growth is unneeded if Harrow is used.
More Lands maybe 24.
Sorry if this advice is useless.
I was thinking another 2 warlords, since I don't have them I didn't put them on the list.
fetches are better, but me no have so......I live.
with the rampart growth I can run 22 lands and still filter out extra permanents.
Seems like fun! But personally, I would drop the sovereigns, because when you're warping and you get nearly "enough" allies only to flip him, it makes a sad panda. Similarly, beware the murasa pyromancer; I wouldn't put in any more than two 1) because of his cost, and 2) the high chance of him just being a 3/2 non-growing ally.
I also realize the allure of cards that read "win the game," but I'm not sure they have a place in this deck. Actually, if you cut the sovereigns for Tuktuk Grunts, you could possibly have a nice source of "wtf he hit me for 13?!" effects. Possibly as a three-of, taking out an Aria and the Sovereigns. I haven't tested any of these changes, so ymmv, but in the abstract they seem like positive changes!
WRG Uril the EDHstalker GRW RG Warp World GR BUW Rescue WUB WUBRG Alara's Children EDH GRBUW WUBRG Prismatic Oh-**** GRBUW UR Firemind EDH RU GW Token Legacy WG GRBUW Elementals! WUBRG WUB Esper Vaults BUW WWW Haterade WWW RRG Valakut Ramp GRR BR Shadow Sligh RB GB A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Graveyard BG UR Counterclasm Swans RU
Wow Gen0 got a tundra? Awesome. I got a box of Zen and didn't pull one priceless treasure. As for the apprentice vote, I'm voting for kaipalin. He has been in this guild longer than I have so it just seems like the right thing to do
Seems like fun! But personally, I would drop the sovereigns, because when you're warping and you get nearly "enough" allies only to flip him, it makes a sad panda. Similarly, beware the murasa pyromancer; I wouldn't put in any more than two 1) because of his cost, and 2) the high chance of him just being a 3/2 non-growing ally.
I also realize the allure of cards that read "win the game," but I'm not sure they have a place in this deck. Actually, if you cut the sovereigns for Tuktuk Grunts, you could possibly have a nice source of "wtf he hit me for 13?!" effects. Possibly as a three-of, taking out an Aria and the Sovereigns. I haven't tested any of these changes, so ymmv, but in the abstract they seem like positive changes!
the panorama's are cool but the land still comes in tapped plus it's also costing me 1 mana so sticking with the expanses until I drag out some arid mesa's.
I will agree with the idea of more ally creatures, but I really don't want to beat my opponent to death with creatures, I would like to see the look in his eyes when I drop the creatures and tell him "your last turn go".maybe I'll drop felidar sovereigns.
-2 felidar sovereign
+2 kazuul warlord
with something to that effect I should be able to drop out a hoard of monster allies, gain a crap load of life, and set all of my opponents creatures on fire.:mad1:
I was so sure that I would get a priceless treasure in my box of first run ZEN, but no. I didn't even get that many fetches, maybe three. But the priceless treasures sure did run up the price of the boxes, far too much if you ask me.
Ditto, but when you think about the odd's 1/750ush packs = slim at best. Well at least Zen is a good set on it's own, the price of boxes being so high has to do more with the fact that it's selling out, while you can argue that it's the treasures that's causing this demand, I would say that it is more so that the set overall is incredibly strong. (Probably the best since RAV)
I realize that I'm not a member of this clan but I'm not above giving some advice, My suggestion would be to take out white and keep it R/G, or at the very least add in some U, the blue allies may not be that hot, but it gives you access to rite of replication which makes Kazuul Warlord godly if you can ramp into the kicker for it. The aria is nice, but it rarely wins you the same like RoR can. oh and also, have you given thought to adding in 1-2 Oran-Rief the vastwood? They're really good for keeping your green 2 drops/turntimber out of shock range. That mythic that makes wolf tokens would also be pretty hot when used with TT.:rolleyes: Just my suggestion feel free to ignore it if you feel it's not helpful.
Let's do it this way, over the next few days I'll take the time to organize my thoughts, and write out a PM to myself, and then I'll submit my full response here. I feel like a schizophrenic lag-goblin just now... this is why I can't keep a job...
Edit: Oh and, I'm going to start using spoiler-tags... keep the thread deceptively short.
I just want to drop out 8-10 allies and watch the antics.
Looking at this from a point of usability, Harrow and Rampant growth don't work too well if you've only got 13 lands. I suggest dropping Rampant and terramorphics for more basics and more allies. Felidar Sovereign isn't really great here, so I'd cut him for more allies as well. After all, Allies are like the "fixed" slivers.
...Similarly, beware the murasa pyromancer; I wouldn't put in any more than two 1) because of his cost, and 2) the high chance of him just being a 3/2 non-growing ally...
...Actually, if you cut the sovereigns for Tuktuk Grunts, you could possibly have a nice source of "wtf he hit me for 13?!" effects. Possibly as a three-of, taking out an Aria and the Sovereigns. I haven't tested any of these changes, so ymmv, but in the abstract they seem like positive changes!
I like most of the sounds of that! Pyromancer is good in the short term, but I'd recommend Tazuul or Tuktuk over him for usability reasons.
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One thing; for right now I find that there really aren't enough good allies to profitably make a 2-color warp world deck. If you did, though, G/R is definitely the color combo to do it with. Highland Berserker can make the cut, especially with Grunts. Cuz a hasty 4-6 with first strike is nothing to sneeze at.
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WRG Uril the EDHstalker GRW RG Warp World GR BUW Rescue WUB WUBRG Alara's Children EDH GRBUW WUBRG Prismatic Oh-**** GRBUW UR Firemind EDH RU GW Token Legacy WG GRBUW Elementals! WUBRG WUB Esper Vaults BUW WWW Haterade WWW RRG Valakut Ramp GRR BR Shadow Sligh RB GB A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Graveyard BG UR Counterclasm Swans RU
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I know the idea has been bandied about before, but would an all-Izzet game of mafia be possible? I just spent several hours last night looking over the games I played two years ago, and noticed how half of the basic queue is in this clan. Can we get it going, and how?
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I know the idea has been bandied about before, but would an all-Izzet game of mafia be possible? I just spent several hours last night looking over the games I played two years ago, and noticed how half of the basic queue is in this clan. Can we get it going, and how?
You'd want at least 7 players, + someone to mod of course. Once you've got a balanced setup, drop a pm to the mafia subforum moderators (you'd be making the gamethread there), + ask them if it's alright for you to start up a game but dodge the queues - make sure you tell them logistics + it shouldn't be a problem.
There are a million links to primers laying around right now
Check out the Contest thread sticky at the top of this subforum, or head over to the mafia sub, which is full of stickies of how to loot + lynch for fun + profit.
also with the allies deck I did a little playesting and alot of the advice I received was pretty sound. I'm not going to cut it down to just R/G though. the ondu cleric does a pretty good job of keeping my life total in the positives. I find that I don't really want to chump block quite as much due to the fact that it causes my allies to go to the graveyard which doesn't do me any good with warp worlds. hence the life bonus helps alot. also I like the amount of lands that I'm running. I want more fetches in the decks as well. if I can search and fetch for the lands I need those cards go to the graveyard which helps thin out the deck. by thinning that one extra ally can make a world of a difference with my set up. here is the deck list that I want to go with right now.
I know the idea has been bandied about before, but would an all-Izzet game of mafia be possible? I just spent several hours last night looking over the games I played two years ago, and noticed how half of the basic queue is in this clan. Can we get it going, and how?
I actually really want to mod this, though I'm not sure if we're going to want a setup closer to a Basic game or closer to a Normal/Specialty game. At any rate, I have ideas either way.
also with the allies deck I did a little playesting and alot of the advice I received was pretty sound. I'm not going to cut it down to just R/G though. the ondu cleric does a pretty good job of keeping my life total in the positives. I find that I don't really want to chump block quite as much due to the fact that it causes my allies to go to the graveyard which doesn't do me any good with warp worlds. hence the life bonus helps alot. also I like the amount of lands that I'm running. I want more fetches in the decks as well. if I can search and fetch for the lands I need those cards go to the graveyard which helps thin out the deck. by thinning that one extra ally can make a world of a difference with my set up. here is the deck list that I want to go with right now.
The issue of not having enough basic lands is very relevant when your deck consists of 16 land-searching effects (double-counting Harrow) to only 13 basics. Is Mayael's Aria even necessary when you're running cards like Kazuul Warlord?
The issue of not having enough basic lands is very relevant when your deck consists of 16 land-searching effects (double-counting Harrow) to only 13 basics. Is Mayael's Aria even necessary when you're running cards like Kazuul Warlord?
necessary.....no.
funnier then hell when you opponent only has 1 turn to respond before GG....yes.
Also, something I noticed the other day was that the first post looks horrible in linux and probably for anyone who doesn't have 1024x768 resolution. Is there a vbcode for horizontal lines?
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I have thoughts about Summoning Trap. So I built a deck. It's in the Goldfishing Phase of Testing. I need help with it. Anyone willing to help can check this thread.
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anyway, another toxic day in school has ended. and i just came home from an FNM tourney which i won in 3rd.
other than that, any news?
EDIT:
And what's up with Psi being a test subject?! not that i don't want him to be, but what happened to the Pokemasters and stuff? that is, if you don't mind me asking, Psi.
It's a long story...if you really wanna know feel free to pm me and I'll tell ya.
But basicly I am back in the Izzet (have for a few weeks now) and I only wanna work back up to a High Mage through being AI's Apprentice and Acolyte.
Oh ok, i think i will.
and good luck and welcome back to the clan.
do you have any news on the clan mafia?
I traded some cards away to a member of this forum with +80% Itrader rating and my delivery confirmation stated that he has recivied that cards, I've PM'ed him multiple times asking if hes sent or even recivied and have got nothing back its been almost over a week since i sent what should i do :(?
If you are having any problems with a trader that is being unresponsive to your pms, then you should probably contact one of the market street moderators. They should be able to help you.
:laugh::rofl::hifive:
Nice; what are you playing in Standard?
We're still alive and the game is ongoing. For any other details you'd have to PM wamyc or myself.
Let's do it this way, over the next few days I'll take the time to organize my thoughts, and write out a PM to myself, and then I'll submit my full response here. I feel like a schizophrenic lag-goblin just now... this is why I can't keep a job...
Edit: Oh and, I'm going to start using spoiler-tags... keep the thread deceptively short.
page 6 post FTW!!!!!!!
alright clan friends I need an opinion on this deck idea that I got curious what you all think.
4 rampart growth
4 harrow
4 trace abundance
4 warp worlds
3 mayael's aria
4 ondu cleric
4 kazandu blademaster
4 oran-rief survivlist
2 turntimber ranger
2 kazuul warlord
2 marusa pyromancer
2 felidar sovereign
3 plains
4 mountains
4 terramorphic expansion
4 jungle shrines
6 forest
I just want to drop out 8-10 allies and watch the antics.
I was thinking another 2 warlords, since I don't have them I didn't put them on the list.
fetches are better, but me no have so......I live.
with the rampart growth I can run 22 lands and still filter out extra permanents.
I like dropping multiple lands a turn.
Seems like fun! But personally, I would drop the sovereigns, because when you're warping and you get nearly "enough" allies only to flip him, it makes a sad panda. Similarly, beware the murasa pyromancer; I wouldn't put in any more than two 1) because of his cost, and 2) the high chance of him just being a 3/2 non-growing ally.
I also realize the allure of cards that read "win the game," but I'm not sure they have a place in this deck. Actually, if you cut the sovereigns for Tuktuk Grunts, you could possibly have a nice source of "wtf he hit me for 13?!" effects. Possibly as a three-of, taking out an Aria and the Sovereigns. I haven't tested any of these changes, so ymmv, but in the abstract they seem like positive changes!
TL;DR
-1 Mayael's Aria
-2 Felidar Sovereign
+3 Tuktuk Grunts
-4 Terramorphic Expanse/+4 Naya Panorama?
RG Warp World GR
BUW Rescue WUB
WUBRG Alara's Children EDH GRBUW
WUBRG Prismatic Oh-**** GRBUW
UR Firemind EDH RU
GW Token Legacy WG
GRBUW Elementals! WUBRG
WUB Esper Vaults BUW
WWW Haterade WWW
RRG Valakut Ramp GRR
BR Shadow Sligh RB
GB A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Graveyard BG
UR Counterclasm Swans RU
My Mafia Stats - My Helpdesk
G Omnath, Locus of Mana U Arcum Dagsson BUG The Mimeoplasm GW Gaddock Teeg X Karn, Silver Golem
the panorama's are cool but the land still comes in tapped plus it's also costing me 1 mana so sticking with the expanses until I drag out some arid mesa's.
I will agree with the idea of more ally creatures, but I really don't want to beat my opponent to death with creatures, I would like to see the look in his eyes when I drop the creatures and tell him "your last turn go".maybe I'll drop felidar sovereigns.
-2 felidar sovereign
+2 kazuul warlord
with something to that effect I should be able to drop out a hoard of monster allies, gain a crap load of life, and set all of my opponents creatures on fire.:mad1:
Ditto, but when you think about the odd's 1/750ush packs = slim at best. Well at least Zen is a good set on it's own, the price of boxes being so high has to do more with the fact that it's selling out, while you can argue that it's the treasures that's causing this demand, I would say that it is more so that the set overall is incredibly strong. (Probably the best since RAV)
I too would like to know, could you send me a PM, since I had somewaht high hopes for that clan.
I realize that I'm not a member of this clan but I'm not above giving some advice, My suggestion would be to take out white and keep it R/G, or at the very least add in some U, the blue allies may not be that hot, but it gives you access to rite of replication which makes Kazuul Warlord godly if you can ramp into the kicker for it. The aria is nice, but it rarely wins you the same like RoR can. oh and also, have you given thought to adding in 1-2 Oran-Rief the vastwood? They're really good for keeping your green 2 drops/turntimber out of shock range. That mythic that makes wolf tokens would also be pretty hot when used with TT.:rolleyes: Just my suggestion feel free to ignore it if you feel it's not helpful.
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Never! I murder my failed students!
Sounds good. Can't wait to read it.
Looking at this from a point of usability, Harrow and Rampant growth don't work too well if you've only got 13 lands. I suggest dropping Rampant and terramorphics for more basics and more allies. Felidar Sovereign isn't really great here, so I'd cut him for more allies as well. After all, Allies are like the "fixed" slivers.
I like most of the sounds of that! Pyromancer is good in the short term, but I'd recommend Tazuul or Tuktuk over him for usability reasons.
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RG Warp World GR
BUW Rescue WUB
WUBRG Alara's Children EDH GRBUW
WUBRG Prismatic Oh-**** GRBUW
UR Firemind EDH RU
GW Token Legacy WG
GRBUW Elementals! WUBRG
WUB Esper Vaults BUW
WWW Haterade WWW
RRG Valakut Ramp GRR
BR Shadow Sligh RB
GB A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Graveyard BG
UR Counterclasm Swans RU
EDIT: I choose Experimental Explosives!
I know the idea has been bandied about before, but would an all-Izzet game of mafia be possible? I just spent several hours last night looking over the games I played two years ago, and noticed how half of the basic queue is in this clan. Can we get it going, and how?
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G Omnath, Locus of Mana U Arcum Dagsson BUG The Mimeoplasm GW Gaddock Teeg X Karn, Silver Golem
Check out the Contest thread sticky at the top of this subforum, or head over to the mafia sub, which is full of stickies of how to loot + lynch for fun + profit.
also with the allies deck I did a little playesting and alot of the advice I received was pretty sound. I'm not going to cut it down to just R/G though. the ondu cleric does a pretty good job of keeping my life total in the positives. I find that I don't really want to chump block quite as much due to the fact that it causes my allies to go to the graveyard which doesn't do me any good with warp worlds. hence the life bonus helps alot. also I like the amount of lands that I'm running. I want more fetches in the decks as well. if I can search and fetch for the lands I need those cards go to the graveyard which helps thin out the deck. by thinning that one extra ally can make a world of a difference with my set up. here is the deck list that I want to go with right now.
4 ondu cleric
4 kazandu blademaster
4 oran-rief survivalist
4 kazuul warlord
2 turntimber ranger
2 murasa pyromancer
4 rampart growth
4 trace abundance
4 harrow
3 mayael's aria
4 warp world
4 jungle shrine
4 arid mesa
3 plains
3 mountains
7 forests
edit: is anyone else having problems with the card tag not bringing up the cards?
Congrats all around!
I always forget to edit my sig for new threads.
I actually really want to mod this, though I'm not sure if we're going to want a setup closer to a Basic game or closer to a Normal/Specialty game. At any rate, I have ideas either way.
The issue of not having enough basic lands is very relevant when your deck consists of 16 land-searching effects (double-counting Harrow) to only 13 basics. Is Mayael's Aria even necessary when you're running cards like Kazuul Warlord?
magiccards.info is down. I've been using Gatherer card links for over a year, and I vastly prefer it.
necessary.....no.
funnier then hell when you opponent only has 1 turn to respond before GG....yes.
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