They finally posted a list of it on the Wizards site. More or less what I expected, aside from a rather low Path to Exile count.
As a psychology major, I have a healthy distrust of any kind of "psychological test" provided by a nonacademic source, especially "personality tests." Even well-constructed personality assessments have poor validity (internal and external) as well as low reliability (notably test-retest), so it stands to reason that one supplied by a random Internet page is doomed to present a most biased view of the individual.
Maybe I should write my term paper on popular views regarding personality tests.
Sexy.
The next Mafia Clan Contest, held later this year, will be a 22-player game allowing players from outside Clans to play. This should prove to be an interesting twist that will surely keep us on our toes!
The actual MBTI test isn't something that you can just take on the internet and expect an extremely valid result.
I hate "internet personality tests" just as much as the next guy, but the MBTI test was developed over many many years and has a strong basing in Juungian psychology.
Before you make statements and generalizations like "all personality tests are vague and invalid" realize that the MBTI is recognized in the psychology world as pretty damn good, and not just like on of those other stupid internet tests.
I nominate Niv Mizzet, the Firemind. Jhiora is simply... not representing the Izzet flavor...
Before you make statements and generalizations like "all personality tests are vague and invalid" realize that the MBTI is recognized in the psychology world as pretty damn good, and not just like on of those other stupid internet tests.
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Criticism
Origins of the theory
Jung's theory of psychological type, as published in his 1921 book, was not tested through controlled scientific studies.[25] Jung's methods primarily included clinical observation, introspection and anecdote—methods that are largely regarded as inconclusive by the modern field of psychology.[25]
Jung's type theory introduced a sequence of four cognitive functions (thinking, feeling, sensing, and intuition), each having one of two orientations (extraverted or introverted), for a total of eight functions. The Myers-Briggs theory is based on these eight functions, although with some differences in expression (see Differences from Jung above). However, neither the Myers-Briggs nor the Jungian models offer any scientific, experimental proof to support the existence, the sequence, the orientation, or the manifestation of these functions.[25] Validity
The statistical validity of the MBTI as a psychometric instrument has been the subject of criticism. It has been estimated that between a third and a half of the published material on the MBTI has been produced for conferences of the Center for the Application of Psychological Type (which provides training in the MBTI) or as papers in the Journal of Psychological Type (which is edited by Myers-Briggs advocates).[33] It has been argued that this reflects a lack of critical scrutiny.[33][34]
The accuracy of the MBTI depends on honest self-reporting by the person tested.[17]:52-53 Unlike some personality measures, such as the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory or the Personality Assessment Inventory, the MBTI does not use validity scales to assess exaggerated or socially desirable responses.[35] As a result, individuals motivated to do so can fake their responses,[36] and one study found that the MBTI judgment/perception dimension correlates with the Eysenck Personality Questionnaire lie scale.[37] If respondents "fear they have something to lose, they may answer as they assume they should."[17]:53
With regard to factor analysis, one study of 1291 college-aged students found six different factors instead of the four used in the MBTI.[38] In other studies, researchers found that the JP and the SN scales correlate with one another.[7] Reliability
Some researchers have interpreted the reliability of the test as being low. Studies have found that between 39% and 76% of those tested fall into different types upon retesting some weeks or years later.[9][34]
One study reports that the MBTI dichotomies exhibit good split-half reliability; however, the dichotomy scores are distributed in a bell curve, and the overall type allocations are less reliable. Also, test-retest reliability is sensitive to the time between tests. Within each dichotomy scale, as measured on Form G, about 83% of categorizations remain the same when individuals are retested within nine months, and around 75% when individuals are retested after nine months. About 50% of people tested within nine months remain the same overall type, and 36% remain the same type after more than nine months.[39] For Form M (the most current form of the MBTI instrument), these scores are higher (see MBTI Manual, p. 163, Table 8.6).
In one study, when people were asked to compare their preferred type to that assigned by the MBTI, only half of people picked the same profile.[40] Critics also argue that the MBTI lacks falsifiability, which can cause confirmation bias in the interpretation of results. Statistical structure
The instrument's dichotomous scoring of dimensions has also been subject to criticism. For example, some researchers expected that scores would show a bimodal distribution with peaks near the ends of the scales, but found that scores on the individual subscales were actually distributed in a centrally peaked manner similar to a normal distribution. A cut-off exists at the center of the subscale such that a score on one side is classified as one type, and a score on the other side as the opposite type. This fails to support the concept of type: the norm is for people to lie near the middle of the subscale.[7][8][9][34][41] Nevertheless, "the absence of bimodal score distributions does not necessarily prove that the 'type'-based approach is incorrect."[41] Utility
The relevance of the MBTI for career planning has been questioned, with reservations about the relevance of type to job performance or satisfaction, and concerns about the potential misuse of the instrument in labeling individuals.[34][42] In her original research, Isabel Myers found that the proportion of different personality types varied by choice of career or course of study.[1]:40-51[15] However, some other researchers examining the proportions of each type within varying professions report that the proportion of MBTI types within each occupation is close to that within a random sample of the population.[34]
Also, the efficiency of MBTI in an organizational setting has been subject to scrutiny. In 1991 three scholars at the University of Western Ontario analyzed the results of 97 independent studies that evaluated the effectiveness of personality tests in predicting job success and job satisfaction ("Personnel Psychology," winter 1991). The results of the nationwide study challenged the effectiveness of the MBTI when related to individual performance and satisfaction in a corporate setting.
“The validity coefficient for personality tests in predicting job success was found to average 0.29 (on a scale of 0 to 1). The corresponding average validity for the MBTI, however, was a weak 0.12. In fact, each study that examined the MBTI found its validity to be below acceptable levels of statistical significance.”[43]
However, as noted above under Precepts and ethics, the MBTI measures preference, not ability. The use of the MBTI as a predictor of job success is expressly discouraged in the Manual.[17]:78 It is not designed to be used for this purpose. Skepticism
Skeptics criticize the terminology of the MBTI as being so "vague and general"[44] as to allow any kind of behavior to fit any personality type. They claim that this results in the Forer effect, where individuals give a high rating to a positive description that supposedly applies specifically to them.[25][34] Others argue that while the MBTI type descriptions are brief, they are also distinctive and precise.[45]:14-15 Some theorists, such as David Keirsey, have expanded on the MBTI descriptions, providing even greater detail. For instance, Keirsey's descriptions of his four temperaments, which he correlated with the sixteen MBTI personality types, show how the temperaments differ in terms of language use, intellectual orientation, educational and vocational interests, social orientation, self image, personal values, social roles, and characteristic hand gestures.[45]:32-207
Pretty self-explanatory. Some people (such as yourself) put faith in the MBTI, while others (such as myself) don't, and there is a significant amount of evidence which suggests that the MBTI is not a reliable or valid psychological instrument, certainly enough for me to regard it as useful only conversationally. I don't think I would ever cite it in one of my papers as the kind of questionnaire that good psychological science is based on.
I nominate Niv Mizzet, the Firemind. Jhiora is simply... not representing the Izzet flavor...
Seeing as how a chick beat a dragon in the finals of the last Survivor CC simply because she was a chick, I'm going to have to disagree with the nomination of ol' Niv.
Keep in mind that just because a card reflects the flavor of ourselves to the max doesn't mean it's necessarily the best choice. Just read the previous threads of the past contests to find out just why that is.
I'm switching my support over to Jhoira. I don't necessarily need a reason because I have no idea how this contest will end up. I just hope the criteria never has anything to do with being slow...
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I have no opinion on the current contest, other than I don't like Jhoira for personal reasons.
On a (slightly) related note:
I got back into EDH recently, and have decided to build one of the least threatening Generals I've ever seen: Taniwha.
Instead of going a more obvious route, I'm going with the blatantly ridiculous: I'm going to beat you to death with a creature that has Phasing. As such, the deck is mostly comprised of equipment that aid in my quest of pwning face with one of the least efficient serpents ever. The best thing is, as it stands, the deck is going to cost me $19.75. Yeah, it's sick. Though I already own a lot of stuff which I'm not counting toward, like Loxodon Warhammer.
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I am the original Semanticore! (Meaning I coined and defined the term.)
I have Deckbuilder's ADD.
On a (slightly) related note:
I got back into EDH recently, and have decided to build one of the least threatening Generals I've ever seen: Taniwha.
Instead of going a more obvious route, I'm going with the blatantly ridiculous: I'm going to beat you to death with a creature that has Phasing. As such, the deck is mostly comprised of equipment that aid in my quest of pwning face with one of the least efficient serpents ever. The best thing is, as it stands, the deck is going to cost me $19.75. Yeah, it's sick. Though I already own a lot of stuff which I'm not counting toward, like Loxodon Warhammer.
Let me know how that goes, I wanted to try that too. Since who would ever expect mono blue (non-Clique decks) to win via general damage?
I doubt it matters since she's winning anyway, but I'll vote for Jhoira too.
Let me know how that goes, I wanted to try that too. Since who would ever expect mono blue (non-Clique decks) to win via general damage?
So far, I've tested against Venser, Sen Triplets, and Ashling the Pilgrim. I lost all three times :sweat:. Though I've since updated the deck and changed some stuff out. Venser beat me like Clique does without Tunnel Vision, Sen Triplets won by spamming wizards and countering every thing I tried to do, and Ashling beat me cuz I missed so many land drops I ended up dying to an Orcish Settlers pumped by Sword of Fire and Ice and Gauntets of Might and Power. So I cut some lands, and added a miniscule amount of draw (Arcanis, Opportunity, and Tidings). And now it appears to perform much more smoothly.
In other news: My best friend's birthday is tomorrow, so I bought him a new Jareth (I lost the old one like the dumbass I am sometimes), and I realized something: Jareth looks absolutely nutty in EDH. Am I mistaken?
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I am the original Semanticore! (Meaning I coined and defined the term.)
I have Deckbuilder's ADD.
Let me know how that goes, I wanted to try that too. Since who would ever expect mono blue (non-Clique decks) to win via general damage?
My Sakashima the Impostor deck is more than capable of copying a fatty and swinging for the win, all while being able to copy utility creatures at the same time.
Jareth isn't exactly ridiculous in EDH, but he can be a really solid defensive tool especially if you give him vigilance somehow.
I'm rocking a Pheldagriff EDH deck. Politics is my specialty ;D
Between Pheldagriff and Questing Pheldagriff, I make sure I have friends while simultaneously beating people down with big trampling fliers who bounce back at the first sight of danger ^_^.
And yes, Jhoira is the way to go. I've yet to run into a vicious EDH deck with her as a general though. No one in my playgroup wants to touch her, maybe out of fear of too much complaints against it?
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hey everyone, sorta been busy not getting divorced.
I would also like to nominate jhoira
right now my favorite deck is reaper king for some god awful reason I have about 700 dollars into it, and i'm not done by any means. maybe I'll put a list up in the near future. also is it just me or is this set, rize of eldrazi, seem more along the lines of just buy the singles or not. I cracked a box today with a friend and nothing fabulous came out of it. then I cracked a fat pack and likewise nothing. If I can buy the singles I need for a deck at dirt cheap why buy the box. obviously to keep wizards in business but really now.
I'll wait for anyone else to cast their vote and if no one else responds by Saturday night, I'll have us in with Jhoira.
I really love her too. She fits the mold well as an "Izzet" person with a unique ability to cheat huge stuff into play. Probably my second favorite female character in Magic after Chandra.
Went to a random store for a standard FNM last night, was free entry, which was nice, went 2-2 with a newly built Time Sieve combo deck that I haven't tested much. Had a pretty good time, and won a roll to get the FNM card which was nice.
Came in 2nd place today with an Extended deck. Scapeshift all the way ;D. I think I could have come in first place if I actually *owned* a full set of Scapeshifts, since I'm running with the only 2 I own right now T_T.
There was a newer player running a Jund deck who decided to try and enter for the chance at the store credit, and I ended up getting matched against him. It took about 5 minutes to explain how 2x Valakut + 5x Mountains = 30 damage, but once he got the concept, he promptly rallied and beat me down in game two with three Bloodbraids cascading into either blightning or bolt, but he inevitably fell during game three to a quick and dirty Scapeshift on turn 4 to hit him for 15 after he drained himself for the Leech a few times. Next game I lost to a Megrim deck that raped me with with a Magus of the Jar =/. Game after, I managed to beat a Mill deck thanks to two big Earthquakes, then lose in game two, then win game three by actually managing to Scapeshift enough mountains for the win Last match was against a Time Sieve that just didn't manage to go off quick enough, which led to some decisive Scapeshiftery, and the last game was a white weenie deck against which I repeal, remand, and quaked my way through till the Scape came up.
In the end, won some store credit and a couple old DCI/FNM promos the store had kicking around, including a Bloodbraid Elf
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I haven't played T2 in a while, but I still have basically all the cards to my old RDW deck sitting right beside my drawer and I'm thinking about getting back into things. I just need to pick up Kargan Dragonlords when I get the chance... and hope I don't run into Kor Firewalkers left and right.
I haven't played T2 in a while, but I still have basically all the cards to my old RDW deck sitting right beside my drawer and I'm thinking about getting back into things. I just need to pick up Kargan Dragonlords when I get the chance... and hope I don't run into Kor Firewalkers left and right.
I've got two, if you've got some stuffs I need. Clan priority ;D
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I haven't played T2 in a while, but I still have basically all the cards to my old RDW deck sitting right beside my drawer and I'm thinking about getting back into things. I just need to pick up Kargan Dragonlords when I get the chance... and hope I don't run into Kor Firewalkers left and right.
On the topic of Standard RDW, what's your thoughts on Devastating Summons in RDW SC?
could be a decent mid game win con but honestly I'm a little afraid of my opponent dropping a board sweeper and myself being out quite a bit. maybe as 2-3 of I guess
On the topic of Standard RDW, what's your thoughts on Devastating Summons in RDW SC?
/End lurking.
I like Devastating Summons, but probably as a 3-of. It's a fantastic way to put what would be dead land drops in the late game to use (other than leveling up Dragonlord too). It's not a card that I would want to draw in multiples, but something that gives red the extra push it needs to win so I do would want to see it. It's also an excellent play after a Day of Judgment or some other sweeper.
I like Devastating Summons, but probably as a 3-of. It's a fantastic way to put what would be dead land drops in the late game to use (other than leveling up Dragonlord too). It's not a card that I would want to draw in multiples, but something that gives red the extra push it needs to win so I do would want to see it. It's also an excellent play after a Day of Judgment or some other sweeper.
I haven't played T2 since RoE released, but Devastating Summons seems amazing on paper. With nothing on board turn three but three Mountains, Devastating Summons into Goblin Bushwhacker is 10 points of hasty damage. If you have another land and some burn in hand, it could be game over against an opponent who's tapped out. Your opponent's Path to Exile only makes Devastating Summons better!
The best part of Iron Man 2: When Scarlett Johansson asks, "Is that dirty enough for you?"
"Are you dirty enough for me?"
Awesome movie, I recommend it. The trailer for Inception starring Leo DiCaprio was pretty sweet as well.
Would Bushwhacker be worth it though? Since, at least last I knew, the only non hasty creatures RDW ran were Kargan Dragonlord and/or Plated Geopede :shrug:.
The all-in strategy of DS + Bushwhacker is quite interesting, and it gives red a new dimension in overwhelming its opponents. However, I don't want to see the other player stabilize by dropping a Wall of Omens or two or some other first strike defender while all my lands went down the drain. Testing will have to be done especially since I'm planning on taking the deck to a decently big tournament that my store is holding next month.
@ joboman: I have loved Geopede simply because red never gets 3/3 and sometimes 5/5 first strikers for just 2 mana. First strike means it's practically guaranteed to take a creature out in combat, and he chisels out a nice chunk of the opponent's life if unblocked.
Also, I have entered us in on the Clan Contest with Jhoira.
The actual MBTI test isn't something that you can just take on the internet and expect an extremely valid result.
I hate "internet personality tests" just as much as the next guy, but the MBTI test was developed over many many years and has a strong basing in Juungian psychology.
Before you make statements and generalizations like "all personality tests are vague and invalid" realize that the MBTI is recognized in the psychology world as pretty damn good, and not just like on of those other stupid internet tests.
I nominate Niv Mizzet, the Firemind. Jhiora is simply... not representing the Izzet flavor...
Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
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Seeing as how a chick beat a dragon in the finals of the last Survivor CC simply because she was a chick, I'm going to have to disagree with the nomination of ol' Niv.
As for me, I am leaning towards Jhoira as well.
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On a (slightly) related note:
I got back into EDH recently, and have decided to build one of the least threatening Generals I've ever seen: Taniwha.
Instead of going a more obvious route, I'm going with the blatantly ridiculous: I'm going to beat you to death with a creature that has Phasing. As such, the deck is mostly comprised of equipment that aid in my quest of pwning face with one of the least efficient serpents ever. The best thing is, as it stands, the deck is going to cost me $19.75. Yeah, it's sick. Though I already own a lot of stuff which I'm not counting toward, like Loxodon Warhammer.
Thanks to Numotflame96 at Maelstrom Graphics!
Acolyte of Elemental Synthesis in The Izzet
I have Deckbuilder's ADD.
Let me know how that goes, I wanted to try that too. Since who would ever expect mono blue (non-Clique decks) to win via general damage?
I doubt it matters since she's winning anyway, but I'll vote for Jhoira too.
The Izzet
So far, I've tested against Venser, Sen Triplets, and Ashling the Pilgrim. I lost all three times :sweat:. Though I've since updated the deck and changed some stuff out. Venser beat me like Clique does without Tunnel Vision, Sen Triplets won by spamming wizards and countering every thing I tried to do, and Ashling beat me cuz I missed so many land drops I ended up dying to an Orcish Settlers pumped by Sword of Fire and Ice and Gauntets of Might and Power. So I cut some lands, and added a miniscule amount of draw (Arcanis, Opportunity, and Tidings). And now it appears to perform much more smoothly.
In other news: My best friend's birthday is tomorrow, so I bought him a new Jareth (I lost the old one like the dumbass I am sometimes), and I realized something: Jareth looks absolutely nutty in EDH. Am I mistaken?
Thanks to Numotflame96 at Maelstrom Graphics!
Acolyte of Elemental Synthesis in The Izzet
I have Deckbuilder's ADD.
My Sakashima the Impostor deck is more than capable of copying a fatty and swinging for the win, all while being able to copy utility creatures at the same time.
Jareth isn't exactly ridiculous in EDH, but he can be a really solid defensive tool especially if you give him vigilance somehow.
Between Pheldagriff and Questing Pheldagriff, I make sure I have friends while simultaneously beating people down with big trampling fliers who bounce back at the first sight of danger ^_^.
And yes, Jhoira is the way to go. I've yet to run into a vicious EDH deck with her as a general though. No one in my playgroup wants to touch her, maybe out of fear of too much complaints against it?
Former ">Izzet Acolyte of Chronomancy.
Proud Creator of MassacreMorph, a.k.a., LOLAPHANT
I would also like to nominate jhoira
right now my favorite deck is reaper king for some god awful reason I have about 700 dollars into it, and i'm not done by any means. maybe I'll put a list up in the near future. also is it just me or is this set, rize of eldrazi, seem more along the lines of just buy the singles or not. I cracked a box today with a friend and nothing fabulous came out of it. then I cracked a fat pack and likewise nothing. If I can buy the singles I need for a deck at dirt cheap why buy the box. obviously to keep wizards in business but really now.
I really love her too. She fits the mold well as an "Izzet" person with a unique ability to cheat huge stuff into play. Probably my second favorite female character in Magic after Chandra.
There was a newer player running a Jund deck who decided to try and enter for the chance at the store credit, and I ended up getting matched against him. It took about 5 minutes to explain how 2x Valakut + 5x Mountains = 30 damage, but once he got the concept, he promptly rallied and beat me down in game two with three Bloodbraids cascading into either blightning or bolt, but he inevitably fell during game three to a quick and dirty Scapeshift on turn 4 to hit him for 15 after he drained himself for the Leech a few times. Next game I lost to a Megrim deck that raped me with with a Magus of the Jar =/. Game after, I managed to beat a Mill deck thanks to two big Earthquakes, then lose in game two, then win game three by actually managing to Scapeshift enough mountains for the win Last match was against a Time Sieve that just didn't manage to go off quick enough, which led to some decisive Scapeshiftery, and the last game was a white weenie deck against which I repeal, remand, and quaked my way through till the Scape came up.
In the end, won some store credit and a couple old DCI/FNM promos the store had kicking around, including a Bloodbraid Elf
Former ">Izzet Acolyte of Chronomancy.
Proud Creator of MassacreMorph, a.k.a., LOLAPHANT
I've got two, if you've got some stuffs I need. Clan priority ;D
Former ">Izzet Acolyte of Chronomancy.
Proud Creator of MassacreMorph, a.k.a., LOLAPHANT
On the topic of Standard RDW, what's your thoughts on Devastating Summons in RDW SC?
/End lurking.
I have not tried Devastating Summons in my RDW but it does sound very tempting. I'll have to get a playset to test it out.
I like Devastating Summons, but probably as a 3-of. It's a fantastic way to put what would be dead land drops in the late game to use (other than leveling up Dragonlord too). It's not a card that I would want to draw in multiples, but something that gives red the extra push it needs to win so I do would want to see it. It's also an excellent play after a Day of Judgment or some other sweeper.
I haven't played T2 since RoE released, but Devastating Summons seems amazing on paper. With nothing on board turn three but three Mountains, Devastating Summons into Goblin Bushwhacker is 10 points of hasty damage. If you have another land and some burn in hand, it could be game over against an opponent who's tapped out. Your opponent's Path to Exile only makes Devastating Summons better!
The best part of Iron Man 2: When Scarlett Johansson asks, "Is that dirty enough for you?"
Would Bushwhacker be worth it though? Since, at least last I knew, the only non hasty creatures RDW ran were Kargan Dragonlord and/or Plated Geopede :shrug:.
Call me crazy, but it not having haste just slows the deck down.
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@ joboman: I have loved Geopede simply because red never gets 3/3 and sometimes 5/5 first strikers for just 2 mana. First strike means it's practically guaranteed to take a creature out in combat, and he chisels out a nice chunk of the opponent's life if unblocked.
Also, I have entered us in on the Clan Contest with Jhoira.
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