The other advice in the board is probably better, and this is maybe a bit out of line, but I guess either learning an instrument or pushing is a great way to get out there. Chances are, you'll meet some chick there and you've got something extra. Trust me, there's always going to be some pretty decent girl out there who swoons over the whole guitar thing, or some girl who just loves to love and loves to love unwinding. The other stuff in this thread is probably better to start out with, but hey, you know.
Just for the record, I'm not responsible for any trouble you get following my advice. Just throwing that out there.
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the easiest way to find woman is to simply talk to random girls on the streets. i mean, after all, they are everywhere. tell them you think they look nice and if you aren't too ugly, they will be immediately flattered. many would probably willingly give you their phone numbers. many guys are too shy to do this but after watching beauty and the geek in where guys really did this, i must say that asking random ppl for number is not a completely bad idea.
You know, most women would kill me for saying this, but I really think "being treated too nicely" isn't exactly what women look for in a fling or a boyfriend - they are more interested in the adventure, the mystery, the pleasant company. Treating someone nicely is an excellent way to become friends with them.
Of course, that doesn't mean you should treat them like crap - just don't focus too much on being nice. If you're too nice and they start seeing you as a friend, it's game over in the majority of the cases. Just be yourself, and don't try to come up with cheesy lines or other stuff that would look unnatural.
The wisest man here. I met all my girlfriends at school, school is the greatest place for hooking up.
Otherwise, all internet options are illusions. Forget about them. Just keep trying.
school is a good option. i still like my idea better but the workplace and school will always be the easiest place to find someone.
The workplace is a bit of a stretch though. I would steer away from dating someone you work with unless you're sure that it won't interfere with work if you break up (or if you stay together, for that matter). At the very least, never date your superiors or subordinates, stick to people on your own level. Otherwise (and I know this from experience), when the excrement hits the cooling device, things can get pretty hairy - and you really don't want to have to consider leaving a job you love just to get away from a difficult situation that you've put yourself in.
Instead of work, I'd recommend hobbies - join a club for an activity you're interested in (and there have been several suggestions in this thread already). They're practically like school, only more fun, and it's definitely a better environment for meeting people of the opposite gender (unless your only hobby is Magic).
As an aside (this goes for everybody): Don't even THINK about trying to hit on a girl who plays Magic. She's had so many guys crack on to her today alone, that you will NOT stand a chance. Trust me. It's not that she doesn't think you're a nice guy, but she's sick to death of trying to sort the wheat from the chaff and so she'll stick to the safest option she knows: reject everybody. Save yourself the trouble.
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Instead of work, I'd recommend hobbies - join a club for an activity you're interested in (and there have been several suggestions in this thread already). They're practically like school, only more fun, and it's definitely a better environment for meeting people of the opposite gender (unless your only hobby is Magic).
To add to this- probably the best hobby to take up to meet girls (who will usually be fun, outgoing and attractive) is to take up some sort of dancing lesson. Swing, Salsa, or something like that. Not only will you be very much outnumbered, but it helps with your confidence and is a great workout. So even if you don't meet a girl there, it might just help you meet one elsewhere.
never date your superior?! that's misleading advice. sure if you break up, it would spell trouble for you but if you stay together, you have all the perks. you can leave work early and go to work late. you can have longer lunch breaks. you may even get a pay raise! it's basically a 50/50 chance. you could definitely have a chance to win out the whole thing.
as for your situation, i don't know how in the world you did it in the workplace or why you ever would. i'm not even sure where you could do it in. the janitor's closet maybe? that doesn't feel romantic at all. usually, someone dates outside the workplace. no one ever told you to make sparks in front of your co workers. and honestly, i think you should have the wisdom to scan the perimeter after your deed. and furthermore, even when they found the blob, how did they know it was yours?
as for girls who play mtg, i don't know why you would ever hit on them. they are all nasty.
never date your superior?! that's misleading advice. sure if you break up, it would spell trouble for you but if you stay together, you have all the perks. you can leave work early and go to work late. you can have longer lunch breaks. you may even get a pay raise!
Hmmmm, dating in exchange for financial gains and personal benefits ..... sounds like a whore to me.
Not to mention a blatant example of a conflict of interest. And grounds for a sexual harassment claim.
Instead of work, I'd recommend hobbies - join a club for an activity you're interested in (and there have been several suggestions in this thread already). They're practically like school, only more fun, and it's definitely a better environment for meeting people of the opposite gender (unless your only hobby is Magic).
Very true, but also, I would try to choose which group you join more to the type of person who you would like to meet. For example: Recently, I signed up for our Recycling organization and the Worldquest team. While I signed up for those because I actually wanted to take part in those activities, participating in these groups has allowed me to meet a beautiful young lady, and we were able to get through the initial awkwardness due to the fact that we knew many of our common interests from the beginning. It's like dating an old friend, only without hurting the friendship if the physical relationship turns out badly.
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as for girls who play mtg, i don't know why you would ever hit on them. they are all nasty.
That is a rather sad and generalizing statement. To the contrary, two women that I brought to the game of Magic were not only beautiful (superficially as well as within), they were also lovely company and played a mean game of magic. A fine way to spend an evening with a bottle of fine wine and light conversation to boot.
as for girls who play mtg, i don't know why you would ever hit on them. they are all nasty.
Yes, well, tell that to all the guys who keep hitting on me.:rolleyes: I don't know why they do it either, but the fact is, it happens.
Dance lessons are a great idea - most girls are fans of good ol'-fashioned romanticism, despite what they may say, and a good dancer already has two feet (hopefully not both left ones) in the door on that count.
And I second Mikey G's assessment of SentimentGX4's statement. Besides, in my experience it's really not worth the risk. Losing your job might sound cool and unlikely now (as "I'd die for her" did once upon a time), but do you really want to have to spend months unemployed and looking for more work after you've been fired for sexual harrassment?
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I'm 32 now, and i spent about 12 years of my life without a serious relationship. i tried everything i could think of... bars, clubs, match.com, hook ups, blind dates... and I'd either meet some REALLY messed up people or just not find the connection i was after. I wasn't fat, ugly, smelly, dumb, or a jerk... I just couldn't seem to make things click with the girls I liked or the girls that liked me. I eventually did meet someone who's so much like me it's scary, and was totally worth the wait. Here are some pointers...
1 - Don't settle for less. There was a time in my life when i was hooking up with anyone who paid remote attention to me. What came of it? unsatisfying friendships and flings, and some very awkward situations in the future. Only be with women you WANT to be with. Beggars can't be choosers... but don't allow yourself to become a beggar in the first place and you'll be okay.
2 - Figure out your favorite hobbies. Find new hobbies. If you like to read, try a book club. Find out if their are conventions that relate to your specific talent/hobby. Look into community education classes or community theater/arts programs. Not a very social person? Try Toastmasters! Start a band, learn to play an instrument. By keeping your mind healthy and keeping enjoyment for life in your scope... you might just stumble across a great person who's very much like yourself (or who has friends).
3 - Avoid drinking too much/doing drugs to the extreme when you do go out. Keep a cool head, so when you meet someone or meet new people in general, you're not giving a misrepresentation of yourself.
4 - It's OKAY to have geeky hobbies. If you ever frequent sci-fi cons... there are PLENTY of cute girls who like this stuff too...
5 - Desperation is easily detectable by women. Ever meet a girl who so painfully obviously likes you that she's kind of creepy even if she IS attractive? Yeah. Don't be like her.
6 - If you're a hefty guy... start getting into shape. You'd be surprised how a healthy lifestyle can improve things. Eating right really isn't as difficult as you'd think. As men, we're blessed with a great ability to lose weight by doing very minimal things. I cut out white breads and drinking soda... I dropped 15 pounds and never set foot in a gym. and I was still able to find wonderful substitutions to the foods i loved like pizza and pasta (Papa Murphy's Wheat Crust baby!).
7 - Myspace. It's free... you actually get to know a little bit about the person and their personality... and you might share some friends you hadn't thought of. I did years of those horrible pay dating sites... and Myspace is really a MUCH better version and it's free.
Hope that helps. Be patient, do things that you enjoy, and try your hardest not to think so much about it. Once you center yourself and start enjoying life... you'd be surprised what crawls out of the woodwork.
I think a good way to meet women is to frequent a place that you can enjoy on your own. It's then likely that any women there will already have something in common with you.
For instance, I love to read and therefore I hang out at bookshops a lot. If I were looking, that's probably where I'd start.
If you haven't seen it, rent "The Tao of Steve" (i think that is the title) for a good laugh on this topic. There's some real funny stuff in there, though i'm not suggesting you use his methods. I think one of his rules is to "be excellent in her presence." He's essentially a character who has no game so to speak, yet cracked the code. Of course, the lesson is learned in the end, you're ultimately not fooling anyone and be yourself, yada, yada, yada. A good lesson nonetheless...
Good one Jaelan, bookstores are excellent and well read individuals can be very interesting people.
A big part of getting a girls attention is attitude. Heres a few things that have worked for me and every roomate of mine ive "mentored":
1 Be cocky. Not too much, but cocky translates into confidence, which girls like.
2 DONT BE POLITICALLY CORRECT OR OVERLY NICE. Both of these things give off the "im a friend" aura. They always see you as the nice guy.
3 Don't concern yourself with getting a girl. Reverse psychology - you dont try, they will!
If you feel comfortable doing things like that, then by all means, itll work. If you dont, and you really are the "nice guy" type of guy, then I really dont know how to help ya - you have a huge uphill battle to fight. (Girls dont really go for the "nice guy" until after their first divorce :P)
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3 Don't concern yourself with getting a girl. Reverse psychology - you dont try, they will!
i can't agree and disagree with you more. from my experience, few girls are brave enough to ever confront you. you have to make the move. the other issue is that you'd have no selection at all. a large portion of them would be all ugly. even if they're popular, it doesn't mean they have an america's next top model face. remember, popularity is only till school ends. once it's over, all you'll be left with is an ugly, fat person.
the second issue regards on who you are. a lot of guys have no girls who like them at all! so if you wait and act oblivious, you will end up an old, perverted bachelor like my former math teacher. plz don't become him. if you are ugly, hit on every girl on the street. you don't want to be alone forever! the easiest match will usually be a girl about as hot as you.
If you dont, and you really are the "nice guy" type of guy, then I really dont know how to help ya - you have a huge uphill battle to fight. (Girls dont really go for the "nice guy" until after their first divorce :P)
Sadly, this is true. I'm a nice guy through and through and that was a HUGE part of my problem... but wouldn't you know that after finally finding someone who appreciates me, a couple of exes that dumped ME mysteriously re-appeared. They had their chance, and I couldn't be happier with my currant girl. We're buying a house soon and it was TOTALLY worth the wait. HANG IN THERE!!!!
Here is question I would like to ask anyone looking to attract a girl friend:
Have you asked for her number?
There are many women I know and have pursued that wait for men to ask them out and will never ask a man out. Do not be intimidated by the looks of a girl, just be confident and make a move. In my opinion the whole key to getting a women is doing what it takes to get a women, which includes being bold.
Well part of the problem i always had with this, (being the dreaded "nice guy") is that I refused to walk up to some random chick at a bar and ask her for her number or do the cheesy "buy her a drink" thing. I suddenly became just another "dude" in that list of "dudes" who had already tried the same thing that night. BUT, I totally agree with asking for numbers if you are out in a group or at a party where you end up chatting with someone new for a while and really spark up something.
Well part of the problem i always had with this, (being the dreaded "nice guy") is that I refused to walk up to some random chick at a bar and ask her for her number or do the cheesy "buy her a drink" thing. I suddenly became just another "dude" in that list of "dudes" who had already tried the same thing that night. BUT, I totally agree with asking for numbers if you are out in a group or at a party where you end up chatting with someone new for a while and really spark up something.
Then don't that approach!
Think of girls this way: control decks. As the aggro deck you have to be consistent, fast, and resilient enough to win in the late game.
Don't approach girls in the night club, at least not yet. A Night Club is like the PTQ of dating and that doesn't work too well with someone as limited experience in dating as you. Girls at night clubs will have their defenses up, they know your looking for a girl, so they have the advantage, they know what deck your playing, they know the meta. You also have lots of competition sometimes Night Clubs will have more males then females (and vice versa).
So the best place to start is: the coin laundry place??!!
Ah, yes the best place to start your dating career is the most average causal places you can find from the super market to the... prerelease, find women when they do not have their defenses up. Women love men you are independance, shop for themselves, do their own laudry, know how to draft.
Find an event or hobby in which you can enjoy and also meet girls then start talking from there on.
1. Use value zingers, aka compliments, not you have nice @-- or such and such but value zingers like you have nice hair or such and such. This is supposed to do many things:
1. Engage in a conversation.
2. Make a girl feel secure, appreciated.
Note: Never use too much zingers, never use zingers in a misdirected way.
Also never let go of an opportunity for using a zinger.
2. Starting a conversation... the hardest part to meeting women is starting the very first conversation. Depending on the environment/situation you will have to adapt there multiple ways to approach girls. For someone inexperienced I would try a dinning area and only on single girls, in other words avoid groups of girls that you don't know. Do not approach a girl unless you have a common interest with her, for example I play a magic round with a girl in a magic tourney, now thats an opportunity to meet her. Introduce yourself and get started on a topic while doing the activity. Never stop the conversation, this is where you start picking away from the ice. By the end of the activity try to get her contact info. She doesn't give it to you most likely she's not single or your just butt ugly (jk) you didn't do good enough.
3. General Strategies
1. Confidence, no girl is out of reach no matter how hot she is. For girls looks is only 2nd tier to your confidence.
2. Speak Loudly and clearly, what deter girls is a soft voice which she can't hear.
3. Try to be as mature as possible.
4. Try to be as funny as possible, the best way to a girl's heart is through her funny bone.
5. Brush up on your hygiene.
6. Build some muscles or lose some fat.
7. Who cares who your target is dating?
8. Eye contact, Eye contact, keep your eyes on her eyes. Never look away...
9. When a girl makes an effort to establish socialization never let go. This act indicates she's interested in you.
I've actually got a girl to follow me around after I beated a her in a draft. Guess who brought her? Her freaking BF! Of course, I didn't really like her so I just brought her back to her bf, she was a nice girl but I prefer girls I date to know how to use the stack
Once you gain enough experiance head on over to the Friday Night Magic Club for your last test.
Ah the PTQ of Dating... here you'll need to group up for this quest. The more friends you have the more chances you'll get facing groups of girls. Take someone along who knows the place, and the ropes or be a nub looking for the right fishing spot.
Unknown to most men, a night club is a place to do activities from dancing to drinking. So here you should engage girls in drink and dancing. Ask a lonely girl in that dark corner for a dance (those r the easy prey). In girl groups take a friend along for an engagement, plan it out. The I'll buy you a drink doesn't alway work.
If you're having problems talking to a woman, then she's more than likely not the one for you. Forcing the issue just does nothing for the long term.
Very very very true. I've never known anyone to say... "You know that one chick that blew me off 5 times and stood me up? Yeah she finally warmed up to me and we're engaged."
Just keep this in mind... your relationship should be on par to a really great friendship. If you're not looking for a relationship, then it won't matter... but if you're looking for something to last... you should be able to relate to them on many levels.
you say your town is a haven of 30+ women....thats actually perfect. When I was 21 I started dating some older women first and I highly recommend it. You can learn a lot because at that age they dont want to play games and you can ask honest questions with them, and get honest feedback. So make some friends with some of these even if your not wanting to date them. Also the 1 thing that always attracts girls is confidence ( even if your faking it) Theres a fine line between confidence and arrogance but if you can learn to walk that line you will at least get to that first step in actually meeting more. Above all be yourself, while you can play at being something your not, women will find this out at the worst possible way in the worst possible time for you The idea to join a charity or some type of organization is great, even if you dont meet someone to date there, people get to know the real you and when you know a lot of people you get along great with, oppurtunities arise. ( I might be babbling now, but best of luck to you ) It wont happen till you least expect it.
... or you could always find a woman on the internet. that's how my pastor got married (and he's obese! over 400 lbs.!). if they don't know how you look you might still have a chance.
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Just for the record, I'm not responsible for any trouble you get following my advice. Just throwing that out there.
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Of course, that doesn't mean you should treat them like crap - just don't focus too much on being nice. If you're too nice and they start seeing you as a friend, it's game over in the majority of the cases. Just be yourself, and don't try to come up with cheesy lines or other stuff that would look unnatural.
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The wisest man here. I met all my girlfriends at school, school is the greatest place for hooking up.
Otherwise, all internet options are illusions. Forget about them. Just keep trying.
The workplace is a bit of a stretch though. I would steer away from dating someone you work with unless you're sure that it won't interfere with work if you break up (or if you stay together, for that matter). At the very least, never date your superiors or subordinates, stick to people on your own level. Otherwise (and I know this from experience), when the excrement hits the cooling device, things can get pretty hairy - and you really don't want to have to consider leaving a job you love just to get away from a difficult situation that you've put yourself in.
Instead of work, I'd recommend hobbies - join a club for an activity you're interested in (and there have been several suggestions in this thread already). They're practically like school, only more fun, and it's definitely a better environment for meeting people of the opposite gender (unless your only hobby is Magic).
As an aside (this goes for everybody): Don't even THINK about trying to hit on a girl who plays Magic. She's had so many guys crack on to her today alone, that you will NOT stand a chance. Trust me. It's not that she doesn't think you're a nice guy, but she's sick to death of trying to sort the wheat from the chaff and so she'll stick to the safest option she knows: reject everybody. Save yourself the trouble.
To add to this- probably the best hobby to take up to meet girls (who will usually be fun, outgoing and attractive) is to take up some sort of dancing lesson. Swing, Salsa, or something like that. Not only will you be very much outnumbered, but it helps with your confidence and is a great workout. So even if you don't meet a girl there, it might just help you meet one elsewhere.
as for your situation, i don't know how in the world you did it in the workplace or why you ever would. i'm not even sure where you could do it in. the janitor's closet maybe? that doesn't feel romantic at all. usually, someone dates outside the workplace. no one ever told you to make sparks in front of your co workers. and honestly, i think you should have the wisdom to scan the perimeter after your deed. and furthermore, even when they found the blob, how did they know it was yours?
as for girls who play mtg, i don't know why you would ever hit on them. they are all nasty.
Hmmmm, dating in exchange for financial gains and personal benefits ..... sounds like a whore to me.
Not to mention a blatant example of a conflict of interest. And grounds for a sexual harassment claim.
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Very true, but also, I would try to choose which group you join more to the type of person who you would like to meet. For example: Recently, I signed up for our Recycling organization and the Worldquest team. While I signed up for those because I actually wanted to take part in those activities, participating in these groups has allowed me to meet a beautiful young lady, and we were able to get through the initial awkwardness due to the fact that we knew many of our common interests from the beginning. It's like dating an old friend, only without hurting the friendship if the physical relationship turns out badly.
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Yes, well, tell that to all the guys who keep hitting on me.:rolleyes: I don't know why they do it either, but the fact is, it happens.
Dance lessons are a great idea - most girls are fans of good ol'-fashioned romanticism, despite what they may say, and a good dancer already has two feet (hopefully not both left ones) in the door on that count.
And I second Mikey G's assessment of SentimentGX4's statement. Besides, in my experience it's really not worth the risk. Losing your job might sound cool and unlikely now (as "I'd die for her" did once upon a time), but do you really want to have to spend months unemployed and looking for more work after you've been fired for sexual harrassment?
1 - Don't settle for less. There was a time in my life when i was hooking up with anyone who paid remote attention to me. What came of it? unsatisfying friendships and flings, and some very awkward situations in the future. Only be with women you WANT to be with. Beggars can't be choosers... but don't allow yourself to become a beggar in the first place and you'll be okay.
2 - Figure out your favorite hobbies. Find new hobbies. If you like to read, try a book club. Find out if their are conventions that relate to your specific talent/hobby. Look into community education classes or community theater/arts programs. Not a very social person? Try Toastmasters! Start a band, learn to play an instrument. By keeping your mind healthy and keeping enjoyment for life in your scope... you might just stumble across a great person who's very much like yourself (or who has friends).
3 - Avoid drinking too much/doing drugs to the extreme when you do go out. Keep a cool head, so when you meet someone or meet new people in general, you're not giving a misrepresentation of yourself.
4 - It's OKAY to have geeky hobbies. If you ever frequent sci-fi cons... there are PLENTY of cute girls who like this stuff too...
5 - Desperation is easily detectable by women. Ever meet a girl who so painfully obviously likes you that she's kind of creepy even if she IS attractive? Yeah. Don't be like her.
6 - If you're a hefty guy... start getting into shape. You'd be surprised how a healthy lifestyle can improve things. Eating right really isn't as difficult as you'd think. As men, we're blessed with a great ability to lose weight by doing very minimal things. I cut out white breads and drinking soda... I dropped 15 pounds and never set foot in a gym. and I was still able to find wonderful substitutions to the foods i loved like pizza and pasta (Papa Murphy's Wheat Crust baby!).
7 - Myspace. It's free... you actually get to know a little bit about the person and their personality... and you might share some friends you hadn't thought of. I did years of those horrible pay dating sites... and Myspace is really a MUCH better version and it's free.
Hope that helps. Be patient, do things that you enjoy, and try your hardest not to think so much about it. Once you center yourself and start enjoying life... you'd be surprised what crawls out of the woodwork.
For instance, I love to read and therefore I hang out at bookshops a lot. If I were looking, that's probably where I'd start.
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Good one Jaelan, bookstores are excellent and well read individuals can be very interesting people.
1 Be cocky. Not too much, but cocky translates into confidence, which girls like.
2 DONT BE POLITICALLY CORRECT OR OVERLY NICE. Both of these things give off the "im a friend" aura. They always see you as the nice guy.
3 Don't concern yourself with getting a girl. Reverse psychology - you dont try, they will!
If you feel comfortable doing things like that, then by all means, itll work. If you dont, and you really are the "nice guy" type of guy, then I really dont know how to help ya - you have a huge uphill battle to fight. (Girls dont really go for the "nice guy" until after their first divorce :P)
i can't agree and disagree with you more. from my experience, few girls are brave enough to ever confront you. you have to make the move. the other issue is that you'd have no selection at all. a large portion of them would be all ugly. even if they're popular, it doesn't mean they have an america's next top model face. remember, popularity is only till school ends. once it's over, all you'll be left with is an ugly, fat person.
the second issue regards on who you are. a lot of guys have no girls who like them at all! so if you wait and act oblivious, you will end up an old, perverted bachelor like my former math teacher. plz don't become him. if you are ugly, hit on every girl on the street. you don't want to be alone forever! the easiest match will usually be a girl about as hot as you.
Sadly, this is true. I'm a nice guy through and through and that was a HUGE part of my problem... but wouldn't you know that after finally finding someone who appreciates me, a couple of exes that dumped ME mysteriously re-appeared. They had their chance, and I couldn't be happier with my currant girl. We're buying a house soon and it was TOTALLY worth the wait. HANG IN THERE!!!!
Have you asked for her number?
There are many women I know and have pursued that wait for men to ask them out and will never ask a man out. Do not be intimidated by the looks of a girl, just be confident and make a move. In my opinion the whole key to getting a women is doing what it takes to get a women, which includes being bold.
Then don't that approach!
Think of girls this way: control decks. As the aggro deck you have to be consistent, fast, and resilient enough to win in the late game.
Don't approach girls in the night club, at least not yet. A Night Club is like the PTQ of dating and that doesn't work too well with someone as limited experience in dating as you. Girls at night clubs will have their defenses up, they know your looking for a girl, so they have the advantage, they know what deck your playing, they know the meta. You also have lots of competition sometimes Night Clubs will have more males then females (and vice versa).
So the best place to start is: the coin laundry place??!!
Ah, yes the best place to start your dating career is the most average causal places you can find from the super market to the... prerelease, find women when they do not have their defenses up. Women love men you are independance, shop for themselves, do their own laudry, know how to draft.
Find an event or hobby in which you can enjoy and also meet girls then start talking from there on.
1. Use value zingers, aka compliments, not you have nice @-- or such and such but value zingers like you have nice hair or such and such. This is supposed to do many things:
1. Engage in a conversation.
2. Make a girl feel secure, appreciated.
Note: Never use too much zingers, never use zingers in a misdirected way.
Also never let go of an opportunity for using a zinger.
2. Starting a conversation... the hardest part to meeting women is starting the very first conversation. Depending on the environment/situation you will have to adapt there multiple ways to approach girls. For someone inexperienced I would try a dinning area and only on single girls, in other words avoid groups of girls that you don't know. Do not approach a girl unless you have a common interest with her, for example I play a magic round with a girl in a magic tourney, now thats an opportunity to meet her. Introduce yourself and get started on a topic while doing the activity. Never stop the conversation, this is where you start picking away from the ice. By the end of the activity try to get her contact info. She doesn't give it to you most likely she's not single or your just butt ugly (jk) you didn't do good enough.
3. General Strategies
1. Confidence, no girl is out of reach no matter how hot she is. For girls looks is only 2nd tier to your confidence.
2. Speak Loudly and clearly, what deter girls is a soft voice which she can't hear.
3. Try to be as mature as possible.
4. Try to be as funny as possible, the best way to a girl's heart is through her funny bone.
5. Brush up on your hygiene.
6. Build some muscles or lose some fat.
7. Who cares who your target is dating?
8. Eye contact, Eye contact, keep your eyes on her eyes. Never look away...
9. When a girl makes an effort to establish socialization never let go. This act indicates she's interested in you.
I've actually got a girl to follow me around after I beated a her in a draft. Guess who brought her? Her freaking BF! Of course, I didn't really like her so I just brought her back to her bf, she was a nice girl but I prefer girls I date to know how to use the stack
Once you gain enough experiance head on over to the Friday Night Magic Club for your last test.
Ah the PTQ of Dating... here you'll need to group up for this quest. The more friends you have the more chances you'll get facing groups of girls. Take someone along who knows the place, and the ropes or be a nub looking for the right fishing spot.
Unknown to most men, a night club is a place to do activities from dancing to drinking. So here you should engage girls in drink and dancing. Ask a lonely girl in that dark corner for a dance (those r the easy prey). In girl groups take a friend along for an engagement, plan it out. The I'll buy you a drink doesn't alway work.
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Very very very true. I've never known anyone to say... "You know that one chick that blew me off 5 times and stood me up? Yeah she finally warmed up to me and we're engaged."
Just keep this in mind... your relationship should be on par to a really great friendship. If you're not looking for a relationship, then it won't matter... but if you're looking for something to last... you should be able to relate to them on many levels.