After I read the part where you said your social graces aren't among the best, you offered an E-mail instead of taking the hint she wanted to hang out with you...
I made an assumption about how this was going to end.
It seems like you got a bit..."Clingy", because a female was showing you attention.
I agree with the posts that state that you seem to have gotten wrapped up in her and enjoying her company.
The first time she ignored you a great deal, you may have wanted to take it as a hint to back away a bit.
People need their space and she was already taken. ( The first and foremost rule to dating: DO NOT expect someone to dump another person to date you. DO NOT, I repeat...DO NOT try to date someone that is taken. There's a theory that they will always go back. )
From the way you describe your story, it makes you seem like you need to be with her and hang-out with her.
She was giving obvious clues about trying to distance herself a bit, but the constant phone calls and such probably just turned her off even more to the idea.
I am not saying this is all your fault, her standing you up and such...
There are things she could have done better.
However, sometimes actions speak louder than words.
When she said her phone was screwing around, yet she was still able to send texts, receive calls, and even answered your next few?...I'd have taken that as a "Please don't get so attached to me" hint.
I am not sure if this is because sometimes, if I hang out with a person for a whole week and don't wish to see them for a day or so I either ignore a text that doesn't require an answer---Or I tell them I am busy.
To be honest, though.
It seems like she didn't have the heart to rip yours out and just tell you to go away.
You should be thankful for that and not so angry at her~.
Eagle Scout or not, deception probably wasn't her motive.
She probably just didn't want to insult you/embarrass you by asking you to not talk to her for a little.
I think her subtle hints would have been much more effective, had you noticed them.
'Chalk this one up to experience. Learn from it and move on. There are plenty of women.
After I read the part where you said your social graces aren't among the best, you offered an E-mail instead of taking the hint she wanted to hang out with you...
I made an assumption about how this was going to end.
It seems like you got a bit..."Clingy", because a female was showing you attention.
I agree with the posts that state that you seem to have gotten wrapped up in her and enjoying her company.
The first time she ignored you a great deal, you may have wanted to take it as a hint to back away a bit.
People need their space and she was already taken. ( The first and foremost rule to dating: DO NOT expect someone to dump another person to date you. DO NOT, I repeat...DO NOT try to date someone that is taken. There's a theory that they will always go back. )
From the way you describe your story, it makes you seem like you need to be with her and hang-out with her.
She was giving obvious clues about trying to distance herself a bit, but the constant phone calls and such probably just turned her off even more to the idea.
I am not saying this is all your fault, her standing you up and such...
There are things she could have done better.
However, sometimes actions speak louder than words.
When she said her phone was screwing around, yet she was still able to send texts, receive calls, and even answered your next few?...I'd have taken that as a "Please don't get so attached to me" hint.
I am not sure if this is because sometimes, if I hang out with a person for a whole week and don't wish to see them for a day or so I either ignore a text that doesn't require an answer---Or I tell them I am busy.
To be honest, though.
It seems like she didn't have the heart to rip yours out and just tell you to go away.
You should be thankful for that and not so angry at her~.
Eagle Scout or not, deception probably wasn't her motive.
She probably just didn't want to insult you/embarrass you by asking you to not talk to her for a little.
I think her subtle hints would have been much more effective, had you noticed them.
'Chalk this one up to experience. Learn from it and move on. There are plenty of women.
Plenty.
dang bro, good insight. I guess I blew it with the whole giving her my email when she wanted to work on her essay. wow, I'm oblivious, I should have taken advantage of when she liked me!
I guess heres what happened: She tried to get on the bus with me, but I missed the bus with her, and then tried to get back on it, but it was already gone, and the bus driver could not be bothered to turn back around. If that analogy makes sense
I never said that I "have men nailed down to a tee."
Apparently you took that statement the wrong way, because I didn't accuse you of being one of those women. There is truth to the statement, no?
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Well I guess to me it is a rule not to call more then two times. It probably goes back to my first boyfriend who was obsessed with me and would never leave me alone. Everyday after he was done with his homework he would call me every half an hour to see if I was done with mine just so that he could talk to me. I told him a number of times to wait until I called him, because I would call him when I was done. But after a few days he would always go back to his old ways. It drove me nuts, and made it much harder to focus on my work. That was one of the many reasons I broke up with him.
You didn't have to explain yourself, but you did just prove my point that what you were saying was anecdotal.
You just seemed very authoritative with your words, such as, "unless it's a life or death situation, you only call once".
ok sorry but everyone is giving you way more info then you need just stop if you bump into her be nice say hi and keep moving thats it no need for anymore advice just stop thinking about this period.
dang bro, good insight. I guess I blew it with the whole giving her my email when she wanted to work on her essay. wow, I'm oblivious, I should have taken advantage of when she liked me!
You talk as if you still hold interests in her.
I think someone said this before, but you seroiusly have the makings of a creepy stalker.
She wants to be your friend. Well, probably not anymore, but she did. If she wants to hang out with you, then great. If she doesn't, I'm sure you survived before that, so just keep it moving. I'm not saying to pretend she doesnt exist, but don't get obsessive. (This iswhere the creepy stalker thing comes in. 2 texts and two phonecalls? Chill out meng.) If she's dodging you on purpose, then as I said before; Oh well.
With girls in general, NEVER (and I mean ever, You can never win on this one) come under the idea or assumption that she likes you unless she says it, or bluntly tries to make out with you/feel you up or something. (I was wrong once then too; alcohol is bad kids >_< )
It's understandable blue control players would be shocked and in denial at the notion of this card, since their decks have been dominating multiple formats for an eternity yet they've curiously never once had to deal with any counter-hosers that weren't ineffectual, narrow CRAP.
She wants to be your friend. Well, probably not anymore, but she did. If she wants to hang out with you, then great. If she doesn't, I'm sure you survived before that, so just keep it moving. I'm not saying to pretend she doesnt exist, but don't get obsessive.
Agreed.
Though I feel, in this case where he seems to get attached/be attached to her...I recommend just forgetting about her.
Is there even a reason to waste your time?
You could be finding another girl with that wasted time.
There's too many women out there for you to even worry about this one.
Oh My Gosh. I don't curse, but right now, I feel like screaming and cussing every profanity known to man. This is unfreaking believable. This is insane. Absolutely insane. I don't even know if you guys will believe what happened to me today. To be honest, I don't even know if I believe it.
So today I was at school like any other Tuesday. I had just finished a really hard Calculus III test, so I went to the library to relax and listen to some music while I drank my protein shake.
I was in the lobby facing the entrance door, when all of a sudden, a girl walks in. It was Jackie! Not only did she just walk in, but she ran right up to me! What happens next is mindblowing:
her: <confused, puzzled look> "Hey! I haven't talked to you in like a week. Did you not get my voicemail?"
Read what she did to me today. Tell me if its as unbelievable to you as it was to me.
Yeah I just read that. It led me to my previously posted conclusions. She obviously doesn't want to say no to you, while at the same time you obviously don't realize how creepy you are.
Hope this helps
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Read what she did to me today. Tell me if its as unbelievable to you as it was to me.
Dude stop talking about her. When you saw her you shoulda just left. SHe is playing you because she probably thinks its funny, once she noticed your stalker tendencies. My advice: Stop talking about her on here, Stop thinking about her, If you ever happen to see her again, avoid her.
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Yeah I just read that. It led me to my previously posted conclusions. She obviously doesn't want to say no to you, while at the same time you obviously don't realize how creepy you are.
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I think it is more of her having the issue instead of me. Why would she pathologically lie like this? Because she gets a thrill of leading guys on and manipulating them and playing games with their minds. She is a psychopath.
She went home tired, found blood in her stool and then went to the ER?
The problem with that, is that she did not call me when she got off of work to meet up like we planned, she didn't tell her manager to tell me where she was, she made no attempt to call me or tell me what was going on. Nothing. She is a pathological liar.
I think it is more of her having the issue instead of me. Why would she pathologically lie like this? Because she gets a thrill of leading guys on and manipulating them and playing games with their minds. She is a psychopath.
If she is such a psycho why are you still talking to her when you see her.
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I think it is more of her having the issue instead of me. Why would she pathologically lie like this? Because she gets a thrill of leading guys on and manipulating them and playing games with their minds. She is a psychopath.
The more you try to villify her, the more you are going to miss the point, which is that while she is a pathological liar, you are also a creeper.
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If she is such a psycho why are you still talking to her when you see her.
No she ran up to me, I didn't even say anything. She ran up to me literally. I just stared at her cold and blankly. I didn't talk to her hardly at all, and she ended up walking away. read the story.
I think it is more of her having the issue instead of me.
No. I think it is equal parts of you and the girl having issues. She does seem a bit weird from your descriptions of what has been happening. But you also seem like an overly obsessive guy whose social awkwardness has been showing up in creepy stalker category. Why are you so mixed up about this girl? It sounds like you barely know her and yet you are taking this whole thing as way too important of an issue. I would recommend extricating yourself from this girl since neither of you seem to know how to deal with each other. Take heed of the advice you got here on how to not creep people out, and hope the next girl you like isn't as confusing to you.
Also anal bleeding out of nowhere happens, and it freaks people out when it does.
Edit: Since you asked how not to be creepy, here are the bullet points from earlier.
1. Don't call/text/email repeatedly. If you call with no answer leave a message.
2. Don't harass someone at their work. Sort of a variation of #1.
3. Don't show up without confirmation and wait 5 hours outside of someone's work.
4. Don't blame everything on the other person without some self-reflection (social interactions involve more than one person)
Wait, so should have I believed her anal bleeding story? I thought that was just another one of her lies/excuses....? She's lied to me and stood me up the whole time, why should I believe her random anus blood stories?
Wait, so should have I believed her anal bleeding story? I thought that was just another one of her lies/excuses....? She's lied to me and stood me up the whole time, why should I believe her random anus blood stories?
You can believe her or not, it sounds like you are fed up with her, so if I were in your shoes I would drop it and move on. I was just saying don't assume someone is lying if they say their anus was bleeding. Turns out strawberry Sobe makes my friend's anus bleed. He was freaked out for about a week before he figured out what was causing it, he switched to green tea and the bloody stool cleared up.
Wait, so should have I believed her anal bleeding story? I thought that was just another one of her lies/excuses....? She's lied to me and stood me up the whole time, why should I believe her random anus blood stories?
No single person would come up with anal bleeding as an excuse not to hang out with you.
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No single person would come up with anal bleeding as an excuse not to hang out with you.
CRAPPPPP (no pun intended). Now I feel really bad for how I acted today. I thought that since she never returned my texts/calls and never called with an explanation, I thought that this anus bleeding was an excuse.?
Dang, you just said what I was going to. People rarely make up gross things like anal bleeding to get out of doing something. Because generally it's not the kind of thing that you want to tell anyone about. Heck, people get embarrassed about telling their doctor about things like that.
You are missing my point. I do not care that she bleeds from her anus.
What I do care is her pathological lying. She claims she called, texted, and voicemailed me from various phones.....hmmmmm. My phone shows zero record of any phone calls, texts, or voicemails.
Is it a telecommunication mystery that even though I have never had ANY problem in 5 years with receiving texts, phonecalls, or voicemails, that magically I cannot recieve her elusive texts, calls, and voicemails?
She claims that she even tried calling me on another phone and left a message......no record of that either.
If she did call and leave a voicemail, my phone would have a record of it. I keep my phone on me all day.
And besides, what teenage girl would keep a cell phone that prevents her from keeping in touch with her friends?
PLUS: I've seen her make phonecalls and text other people on this so called "broken cell phone"
Besides: She has texted me and called me in the past. I guess her phone magically works when she's interested in talking to me.
She Pathologically lies about trying to contact me.
Amazing how she could text and call me when it was convenient for her?
Does she think I'm an idiot? I am a computer and electrical engineering student, so it is ironic that she would try to come up with a technology excuse.
I'm not doubting that she bleeds from her anus......but that is NOT the reason she did not hang out with me on Friday.
She did not want to hang out with me for whatever reason (other plans, tired, creeped out, etc......)
Because if the reason was because of anal bleeding, she could have grabbed a friend's cell phone, used her work phone, told her manager to tell me what happened.
I admit, I see your point about being creepy, but that is no excuse for this selfish, egocentric, pathologically lying, girl to play guys like this.
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After I read the part where you said your social graces aren't among the best, you offered an E-mail instead of taking the hint she wanted to hang out with you...
I made an assumption about how this was going to end.
It seems like you got a bit..."Clingy", because a female was showing you attention.
I agree with the posts that state that you seem to have gotten wrapped up in her and enjoying her company.
The first time she ignored you a great deal, you may have wanted to take it as a hint to back away a bit.
People need their space and she was already taken. ( The first and foremost rule to dating: DO NOT expect someone to dump another person to date you. DO NOT, I repeat...DO NOT try to date someone that is taken. There's a theory that they will always go back. )
From the way you describe your story, it makes you seem like you need to be with her and hang-out with her.
She was giving obvious clues about trying to distance herself a bit, but the constant phone calls and such probably just turned her off even more to the idea.
I am not saying this is all your fault, her standing you up and such...
There are things she could have done better.
However, sometimes actions speak louder than words.
When she said her phone was screwing around, yet she was still able to send texts, receive calls, and even answered your next few?...I'd have taken that as a "Please don't get so attached to me" hint.
I am not sure if this is because sometimes, if I hang out with a person for a whole week and don't wish to see them for a day or so I either ignore a text that doesn't require an answer---Or I tell them I am busy.
To be honest, though.
It seems like she didn't have the heart to rip yours out and just tell you to go away.
You should be thankful for that and not so angry at her~.
Eagle Scout or not, deception probably wasn't her motive.
She probably just didn't want to insult you/embarrass you by asking you to not talk to her for a little.
I think her subtle hints would have been much more effective, had you noticed them.
'Chalk this one up to experience. Learn from it and move on. There are plenty of women.
Plenty.
dang bro, good insight. I guess I blew it with the whole giving her my email when she wanted to work on her essay. wow, I'm oblivious, I should have taken advantage of when she liked me!
I guess heres what happened: She tried to get on the bus with me, but I missed the bus with her, and then tried to get back on it, but it was already gone, and the bus driver could not be bothered to turn back around. If that analogy makes sense
You didn't have to explain yourself, but you did just prove my point that what you were saying was anecdotal.
You just seemed very authoritative with your words, such as, "unless it's a life or death situation, you only call once".
You talk as if you still hold interests in her.
I think someone said this before, but you seroiusly have the makings of a creepy stalker.
She wants to be your friend. Well, probably not anymore, but she did. If she wants to hang out with you, then great. If she doesn't, I'm sure you survived before that, so just keep it moving. I'm not saying to pretend she doesnt exist, but don't get obsessive. (This iswhere the creepy stalker thing comes in. 2 texts and two phonecalls? Chill out meng.) If she's dodging you on purpose, then as I said before; Oh well.
With girls in general, NEVER (and I mean ever, You can never win on this one) come under the idea or assumption that she likes you unless she says it, or bluntly tries to make out with you/feel you up or something. (I was wrong once then too; alcohol is bad kids >_< )
Uh...thats it.
Agreed.
Though I feel, in this case where he seems to get attached/be attached to her...I recommend just forgetting about her.
Is there even a reason to waste your time?
You could be finding another girl with that wasted time.
There's too many women out there for you to even worry about this one.
Trust me, just move on.
All will be well.
I read your post and when I got to the above quote I thought to myself, "This is going to be good! Keep reading!". What a letdown!
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So today I was at school like any other Tuesday. I had just finished a really hard Calculus III test, so I went to the library to relax and listen to some music while I drank my protein shake.
I was in the lobby facing the entrance door, when all of a sudden, a girl walks in. It was Jackie! Not only did she just walk in, but she ran right up to me! What happens next is mindblowing:
her: <confused, puzzled look> "Hey! I haven't talked to you in like a week. Did you not get my voicemail?"
me: : *I just stare at her befuddled for a good 1-2 minutes*
her: *seeing that Im just staring at her like she's crazy* "Oh.....I see...."
*We stare at each other rather puzzled, confused, and shocked for a good minute"
me: *finally speaking* "what happened? You stood me up Friday night"
her: "what?.....no I didn't. You never replied to my calls, texts, or voicemail." *She looks hurt not"
me: "Yeah, I can show you my phone log, I have not recieved any calls, texts, OR voicemails from" *I'm still looking at her like she's psycho"
(This is where it gets unreal)
her: "you would not be saying that I stood you up if you knew the whole story...."
me: *still looking confused as heck*
her: "....I don't know how to say this......but I had to go to the emergency room. There was........I don't know how to say this.....there was blood...."
me: *If I looked confused before, now I looked mystified and astounded"
her: "There was......blood in my........stool.....I had to go to the emergency room"
me: *Still giving her a cold blank stare* "You know, if you didn't want to hang out with someone, you could say you had a boyfriend, or that you didn't want to hang out, or that you were busy. You don't tell someone your phone is broke"
her: "But I called you on a different phone! You didn't reply to my voicemail because you thought it was so wierd"
*By this point, my brain is liquified. My mind has been blown. My head was destroyed*
Me: *just kind of staring at her and muttering* "what happened?....."
Her: *just staring back at me as if she's as hurt and confused as me*
Her: "Oh I see...."
And then she just turns around and storms out of the library.
I don't get it. Am I just an easy target? Do people think because I'm a Eagle Scout, they can lie to me and I will believe it?
Blood in her poop? Really?
The story is so ridicuous and crazy that I want to believe it, but I am not an idiot. I'm an engineering student, so I'm pretty smart, and I'm not just going to believe any bullcrap story.
The manager told me she left work at 9:20 and she was tired. If she really went to the emergency room, she could have told the manager to tell me.
She is insane. absolutely insane. I think she is a psychopath.
Can someone explain to me what is going on here?
You are the type of person who is clingy and obsessive and gets enamored over easily.
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Read what she did to me today. Tell me if its as unbelievable to you as it was to me.
Yeah I just read that. It led me to my previously posted conclusions. She obviously doesn't want to say no to you, while at the same time you obviously don't realize how creepy you are.
Hope this helps
Dude stop talking about her. When you saw her you shoulda just left. SHe is playing you because she probably thinks its funny, once she noticed your stalker tendencies. My advice: Stop talking about her on here, Stop thinking about her, If you ever happen to see her again, avoid her.
I think it is more of her having the issue instead of me. Why would she pathologically lie like this? Because she gets a thrill of leading guys on and manipulating them and playing games with their minds. She is a psychopath.
The problem with that, is that she did not call me when she got off of work to meet up like we planned, she didn't tell her manager to tell me where she was, she made no attempt to call me or tell me what was going on. Nothing. She is a pathological liar.
If she is such a psycho why are you still talking to her when you see her.
The more you try to villify her, the more you are going to miss the point, which is that while she is a pathological liar, you are also a creeper.
No she ran up to me, I didn't even say anything. She ran up to me literally. I just stared at her cold and blankly. I didn't talk to her hardly at all, and she ended up walking away. read the story.
Dang bro, I don't want to be a creeper......any tips for not being......so creepy?
I don't think I look creepy, most girls think I look good.....so I guess its how I act?
No. I think it is equal parts of you and the girl having issues. She does seem a bit weird from your descriptions of what has been happening. But you also seem like an overly obsessive guy whose social awkwardness has been showing up in creepy stalker category. Why are you so mixed up about this girl? It sounds like you barely know her and yet you are taking this whole thing as way too important of an issue. I would recommend extricating yourself from this girl since neither of you seem to know how to deal with each other. Take heed of the advice you got here on how to not creep people out, and hope the next girl you like isn't as confusing to you.
Also anal bleeding out of nowhere happens, and it freaks people out when it does.
Edit: Since you asked how not to be creepy, here are the bullet points from earlier.
1. Don't call/text/email repeatedly. If you call with no answer leave a message.
2. Don't harass someone at their work. Sort of a variation of #1.
3. Don't show up without confirmation and wait 5 hours outside of someone's work.
4. Don't blame everything on the other person without some self-reflection (social interactions involve more than one person)
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You can believe her or not, it sounds like you are fed up with her, so if I were in your shoes I would drop it and move on. I was just saying don't assume someone is lying if they say their anus was bleeding. Turns out strawberry Sobe makes my friend's anus bleed. He was freaked out for about a week before he figured out what was causing it, he switched to green tea and the bloody stool cleared up.
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No single person would come up with anal bleeding as an excuse not to hang out with you.
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CRAPPPPP (no pun intended). Now I feel really bad for how I acted today. I thought that since she never returned my texts/calls and never called with an explanation, I thought that this anus bleeding was an excuse.?
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You are missing my point. I do not care that she bleeds from her anus.
What I do care is her pathological lying. She claims she called, texted, and voicemailed me from various phones.....hmmmmm. My phone shows zero record of any phone calls, texts, or voicemails.
Is it a telecommunication mystery that even though I have never had ANY problem in 5 years with receiving texts, phonecalls, or voicemails, that magically I cannot recieve her elusive texts, calls, and voicemails?
She claims that she even tried calling me on another phone and left a message......no record of that either.
If she did call and leave a voicemail, my phone would have a record of it. I keep my phone on me all day.
And besides, what teenage girl would keep a cell phone that prevents her from keeping in touch with her friends?
PLUS: I've seen her make phonecalls and text other people on this so called "broken cell phone"
Besides: She has texted me and called me in the past. I guess her phone magically works when she's interested in talking to me.
She Pathologically lies about trying to contact me.
Amazing how she could text and call me when it was convenient for her?
Does she think I'm an idiot? I am a computer and electrical engineering student, so it is ironic that she would try to come up with a technology excuse.
I'm not doubting that she bleeds from her anus......but that is NOT the reason she did not hang out with me on Friday.
She did not want to hang out with me for whatever reason (other plans, tired, creeped out, etc......)
Because if the reason was because of anal bleeding, she could have grabbed a friend's cell phone, used her work phone, told her manager to tell me what happened.
I admit, I see your point about being creepy, but that is no excuse for this selfish, egocentric, pathologically lying, girl to play guys like this.