And here's another question... so, if something does happen here, what exactly do I do about playing magic? do I keep it secret? do I tell? how do i tell?
Why would it come up as an issue?
Oh, I guess this is good, but I sung part of "I'm Yours"
I love that song, you have no idea...
at this open mike thing, and there were enough people to make me nervous and right before I started, I almost froze, but then I did it, so I'm like, "I guess this is the same thing basically. If I can kick my stage fright, like I always do when I perform, I can do this... because how different is it really?" right?
Ok... so, basically, I should listen to the old piece of male wisdom and go with having her talk about HER and not saying to much about myself?
It works like a charm, man. I sat down beside a girl who hated my guts (I'm a smartass, most people I know get a kick out of it, even if they're the target, but she doesn't, I just can't help it. I've got smartass on autopilot) and tried talking to her. Nothing had happened yet that day, so her hate wasn't that intense. Two minutes of conversation later, we had segwayed into living spaces. I spent the next hour watching her draw a complete map of her house and talk her way through it. She was really happy just having someone listen. We're fine now. I also do sessions of five minutes to five hours with my best friend, depending on the amount she has to say. How it works with a stranger/somewhat stranger is this: Prepare your patience, then go up to her while she's alone, say hi and ask her about something (how to, where is, whatever, something that seems normal, like "Do you know which street that pizza place/corner store/whatever is on?" if it's lunch or somewhere where you're not in class. If you're in class, this probably won't work unless the teacher ignores you two talking the whole day. But, yeah. Hi, break ice, then remember to introduce yourself if she doesn't know it already. Ask her name if she didn't know yours, even though you know it (I assume). If things are a little awkward, thank her and go somewhere else and continue things another day. Otherwise: Plant a seed or two so she has the opportunity to talk about herself, then just stay there and listen, agreeing/responding when necessary. Depending on what you get going, this can last for hours. If it starts to slow down considerably, start participating in the conversation/filling in some blanks that can be filled in without sounding too random.
Also, if something nerdy comes out, you can put cool/appealing spins on it as was said before. I do it whenever one of my (very few) nerdy things comes up with someone new. I play MTG:
Nerdy way to drive people off: Oh, yeah, I play Magic. It's a card game with dragons and wizards and stuff.
Cool way to possibly evoke further interest or drive off nasty comments: Oh yeah, I play Magic. It's a game I play when I need to relax. If you're really good at it (like me) you can travel and win money. (If you're talking to a girl, say this next part) A lot of the players are college-age guys. I listen to metal:
Nerdy way to drive people off: Yeah, I listen to a lot of metal. Most of the lyrics are about fantasy stuff or evil.
Cool way to possibly evoke further interest or drive off nasty comments: Yeah, I listen to a lot of metal. You should hear them play their parts! Last time I saw All That Remains live, I thought the guitarist had twelve fingers on each hand he played the guitar so fast! The vocalists have lungs of steel and the drummers must be track stars, because they work the kickpedal stupidly fast.
These are the two nerdy things about me (wearing glasses and getting good marks doesn't count) and I haven't gotten picked on about either of them yet.
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I'm assuming she knows my name cuz we're in drivers ed together, so everyone gets called on and stuff...
Umm, why don't I just ask her how she likes the class, comment lightly on whatever she says ("Yeah, thats how I feel about it too" or whatever) and then just ask her like, what she does in her free time...
And is it true that, if she asks me anything, I should answer with a question?
That's good for a conversation starter (the non-last bit) and the last bit doesn't really sound like something I would try when getting to know a girl. I'd answer and then ask a question.
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We actually can't really, for the same reason we can't really help you here past what we already have.
Basically, this thread has two people in it who have problems because they know they want to say things but won't actually say them. Until you do, there's nowhere to proceed.
Yours is by far the simpler situation because all you need to do is say hello.
I'm assuming she knows my name cuz we're in drivers ed together, so everyone gets called on and stuff...
Umm, why don't I just ask her how she likes the class, comment lightly on whatever she says ("Yeah, thats how I feel about it too" or whatever) and then just ask her like, what she does in her free time...
Sure, alright.
And is it true that, if she asks me anything, I should answer with a question?
Didn't you say you've dated other girls? So you obviously don't have that much trouble.
Sooo... I forgot to talk to her and there rlly wasn't a best time...
There's no time to talk to her alone, she walks there and then home with a friend.
As soon as she is alone you need to rock that, no waiting no thinking, your time is limited. Her friend is a straight **** block and no one likes a **** block. Remember try to focus on her, talk about what you have in common, at this point tis driving. If you have to, and this is a last resort, make up a funny story about driving class like the instructor fell asleep in the passanger seat or something along those lines. This is a game your getting into and you need to have the tools and resources ready, like convesation pieces.
Remember, don't say anything stupid, be calm and relax, make her laugh and make sure your not 100% in serious mode, and FFS don't tell her you play Magic, don't tell her you could win alot of money and travel the world playing, every girlfriend I had I told after the fact that we had been going out a long time. They were fine with it, tell them that you were embarrased of what they might of thought of you, then they will be like awwwwwwww and like you even more for being vunerable.
Then ask her if she wants to walk/cycle home with you for a change.
In the past I have guided several girls to their homes, only to return the opposite direction to my own house. And they loved me for it (in different ways).
And if you want some alone time with her, ask for it. Seriously, this one works the best: "Hey I'm planning on shopping for some clothes, but I don't know much about it. Do you wanna help me?"
She'll melt, and there's a couple of hours of quality time in the bag.
Oh and don't let this ****-blocker come along.
Not likely. Freshmen at my school are isolated from the rest of the highschoolers. Any shot I have has to be made now, before Thursday rolls around and drivers Ed is over.
Ok, Anubis, I want you to listen to me. There is one thing you need to know, it was said on the first page of the thread, it was said on every page since, and it is the only thing I want in your mind right now regarding this topic.
You can do this.
Stop bothering with this thread. Stop posting on it, stop reading it. This thread exists because you think you can't and you need an army of people to help you. That's garbage. You can do this. You could from the moment you created it. So set this thread aside, you don't need it, and just go do it. You're fine.
Ok, Anubis, I want you to listen to me. There is one thing you need to know, it was said on the first page of the thread, it was said on every page since, and it is the only thing I want in your mind right now regarding this topic.
You can do this.
Stop bothering with this thread. Stop posting on it, stop reading it. This thread exists because you think you can't and you need an army of people do help you. That's garbage. You can do this. You could from the moment you created it. So set this thread aside, you don't need it, and just go do it. You're fine.
You've got this.
Right on the money.
You appear to have a mental block about talking to her. This is causing you to come up with reasons why you cannot talk to her. As someone who has this exact problem my advice is, ignore your nay-saying thoughts and go for it.
I don't know what you think this game's purpose is, but I play it because I figure it's the best way to learn how to hex everyone I don't like and summon dragons to do my bidding.
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You have 2 choices.
1) Talk to her. You might fail, but it happens.
2) Don't talk to her. You fail every single time.
The right choice is obvious. If you don't try you can't succeed. I understand though, I'm 23 and I've never had a girlfriend. All you can really do is try. I really think you can do it, don't fall into the same trap I did all throughout high school. JUST TRY. No more excuses.
Yeah, pretty much remember what Wayne Gretzky (I think it was him, anyways) said: "I missed 100% of the shots I never took." Go ahead, take a shot. There's a small chance you'll miss completely, but there's also a good chance that you'll score.
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Stare at her constantly and don't turn away. She will be bound to be creeped out at some point and will either have to say something to you, feel really awkward, or leave the room!
Bad advice aside, I can only give my generic advice for getting to know someone:
How you approach it really doesn't matter - If they like you back, they'll go for it. If they don't like you back, they won't go for it. They probably already have an opinion of you, and what you say to break the ice really won't have much of an effect on that opinion. Just don't do anything rude or creepy and hope for the best!
Umm, I CANNOT TALK TO ATTRACTIVE WOMEN! At least, those I like... especially after my first girlfriend, I have HUGE under confidence when trying to approach a woman I am interested in going out with.
Besides, Sciros, I already know what school she goes to, and dont you think asking her about her college plans is, well, a little nerdy? Besides, I dont really drink coffee, and tea isn't really my thing all the time...
k, bro, here we go.
bottom line, shes the lady, what you're into doesnt matter. girls like it when its about them.
just go spit some game, you gotta forget about dating for a bit, it sounds like you dont even know her yet.
my suggestion is;
hey whats good?
she says whatever she says
and then you just go from there, talk about the class, the weather. ask her what she likes to do, this and that.
try to get her number eventually.
just dont be an overeager puppy dog, girls want a guy that knows what hes doing, at least try to seem like you've been there, done that.
at least try to seem like you've been there, done that.
Without being condescending. This is very important. It's easy to act a little condescending to whoever you're talking to if you know/are pretending you know what you're talking about. Just do a quick two-second filter before you say anything.
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Lolz, I'm rarely ever condescending to chicks I like.
Fair enough. People generally aren't on purpose, but we all slip.
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Fair enough. People generally aren't on purpose, but we all slip.
Eh, true, but w/ nothing to be condescending about (she's prolly smarter,
More wealthy, etc) besides nerdy stuff like
Computer games or magic, it's pretty hard.
Fair enough. Although losing your car keys 6% less often could give one cause to be condescending.
Anyways, good you won't have that problem unless you randomly start talking about MtG (which would probably be about as likely as a penguin flying through my window if I understand things correctly).
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Why would it come up as an issue?
I love that song, you have no idea...
Pretty much.
It works like a charm, man. I sat down beside a girl who hated my guts (I'm a smartass, most people I know get a kick out of it, even if they're the target, but she doesn't, I just can't help it. I've got smartass on autopilot) and tried talking to her. Nothing had happened yet that day, so her hate wasn't that intense. Two minutes of conversation later, we had segwayed into living spaces. I spent the next hour watching her draw a complete map of her house and talk her way through it. She was really happy just having someone listen. We're fine now. I also do sessions of five minutes to five hours with my best friend, depending on the amount she has to say. How it works with a stranger/somewhat stranger is this: Prepare your patience, then go up to her while she's alone, say hi and ask her about something (how to, where is, whatever, something that seems normal, like "Do you know which street that pizza place/corner store/whatever is on?" if it's lunch or somewhere where you're not in class. If you're in class, this probably won't work unless the teacher ignores you two talking the whole day. But, yeah. Hi, break ice, then remember to introduce yourself if she doesn't know it already. Ask her name if she didn't know yours, even though you know it (I assume). If things are a little awkward, thank her and go somewhere else and continue things another day. Otherwise: Plant a seed or two so she has the opportunity to talk about herself, then just stay there and listen, agreeing/responding when necessary. Depending on what you get going, this can last for hours. If it starts to slow down considerably, start participating in the conversation/filling in some blanks that can be filled in without sounding too random.
Also, if something nerdy comes out, you can put cool/appealing spins on it as was said before. I do it whenever one of my (very few) nerdy things comes up with someone new.
I play MTG:
Nerdy way to drive people off: Oh, yeah, I play Magic. It's a card game with dragons and wizards and stuff.
Cool way to possibly evoke further interest or drive off nasty comments: Oh yeah, I play Magic. It's a game I play when I need to relax. If you're really good at it (like me) you can travel and win money. (If you're talking to a girl, say this next part) A lot of the players are college-age guys.
I listen to metal:
Nerdy way to drive people off: Yeah, I listen to a lot of metal. Most of the lyrics are about fantasy stuff or evil.
Cool way to possibly evoke further interest or drive off nasty comments: Yeah, I listen to a lot of metal. You should hear them play their parts! Last time I saw All That Remains live, I thought the guitarist had twelve fingers on each hand he played the guitar so fast! The vocalists have lungs of steel and the drummers must be track stars, because they work the kickpedal stupidly fast.
These are the two nerdy things about me (wearing glasses and getting good marks doesn't count) and I haven't gotten picked on about either of them yet.
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Umm, why don't I just ask her how she likes the class, comment lightly on whatever she says ("Yeah, thats how I feel about it too" or whatever) and then just ask her like, what she does in her free time...
And is it true that, if she asks me anything, I should answer with a question?
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We actually can't really, for the same reason we can't really help you here past what we already have.
Basically, this thread has two people in it who have problems because they know they want to say things but won't actually say them. Until you do, there's nowhere to proceed.
Yours is by far the simpler situation because all you need to do is say hello.
Sure, alright.
Didn't you say you've dated other girls? So you obviously don't have that much trouble.
There's no time to talk to her alone, she walks there and then home with a friend.
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Remember, don't say anything stupid, be calm and relax, make her laugh and make sure your not 100% in serious mode, and FFS don't tell her you play Magic, don't tell her you could win alot of money and travel the world playing, every girlfriend I had I told after the fact that we had been going out a long time. They were fine with it, tell them that you were embarrased of what they might of thought of you, then they will be like awwwwwwww and like you even more for being vunerable.
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Then ask her if she wants to walk/cycle home with you for a change.
In the past I have guided several girls to their homes, only to return the opposite direction to my own house. And they loved me for it (in different ways).
And if you want some alone time with her, ask for it. Seriously, this one works the best: "Hey I'm planning on shopping for some clothes, but I don't know much about it. Do you wanna help me?"
She'll melt, and there's a couple of hours of quality time in the bag.
Oh and don't let this ****-blocker come along.
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You can do this.
Stop bothering with this thread. Stop posting on it, stop reading it. This thread exists because you think you can't and you need an army of people to help you. That's garbage. You can do this. You could from the moment you created it. So set this thread aside, you don't need it, and just go do it. You're fine.
You've got this.
Right on the money.
You appear to have a mental block about talking to her. This is causing you to come up with reasons why you cannot talk to her. As someone who has this exact problem my advice is, ignore your nay-saying thoughts and go for it.
All the same, it sounds like you should first talk to her then decide your next course of options. I mean, to be blunt, you sound a tad creepy now.
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1) Talk to her. You might fail, but it happens.
2) Don't talk to her. You fail every single time.
The right choice is obvious. If you don't try you can't succeed. I understand though, I'm 23 and I've never had a girlfriend. All you can really do is try. I really think you can do it, don't fall into the same trap I did all throughout high school. JUST TRY. No more excuses.
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Goddamn it, I'll do it.
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Bad advice aside, I can only give my generic advice for getting to know someone:
How you approach it really doesn't matter - If they like you back, they'll go for it. If they don't like you back, they won't go for it. They probably already have an opinion of you, and what you say to break the ice really won't have much of an effect on that opinion. Just don't do anything rude or creepy and hope for the best!
k, bro, here we go.
bottom line, shes the lady, what you're into doesnt matter. girls like it when its about them.
just go spit some game, you gotta forget about dating for a bit, it sounds like you dont even know her yet.
my suggestion is;
hey whats good?
she says whatever she says
and then you just go from there, talk about the class, the weather. ask her what she likes to do, this and that.
try to get her number eventually.
just dont be an overeager puppy dog, girls want a guy that knows what hes doing, at least try to seem like you've been there, done that.
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Without being condescending. This is very important. It's easy to act a little condescending to whoever you're talking to if you know/are pretending you know what you're talking about. Just do a quick two-second filter before you say anything.
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On another note. It is hard for me to pretend that I've "been there, done that" when I haven't.
Plus, I have a sort of idea that I better come on pretty strong because I always seem to get stuck in the friend vortex.
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Fair enough. People generally aren't on purpose, but we all slip.
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Eh, true, but w/ nothing to be condescending about (she's prolly smarter,
More wealthy, etc) besides nerdy stuff like
Computer games or magic, it's pretty hard.
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Anyways, good you won't have that problem unless you randomly start talking about MtG (which would probably be about as likely as a penguin flying through my window if I understand things correctly).
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