The local newspaper recently ran a newspaper of inter-religious couples who were married and I was absolutely disgusted. Inevitably one person (and their families, ie grandparents) have to sacrifice their religious faith and traditions while the grandchildren are raised with the other parents and his or her families religious faith and traditions. I was absolutely disgusted! I am an out and out anti-Globalist and the mixing of religions is included. Protestant Christians should have nothing to do with atheists where religion is involved. In fact, no one of any religious faith should have anything to do with people of other faiths. It is an "us against them" scenario. The fact of the matter is that God has elected some for salvation and the vast majority He has elected for damnation. Passing feelings and emotions (which according to the Bible need to be hammered into submission, we should learn to control ourselves) does not change the Eternal Truths. At the OP: Why risk your eternal salvation to mingle with the pigs who are damned to hell?
The local newspaper recently ran a newspaper of inter-religious couples who were married and I was absolutely disgusted. Inevitably one person (and their families, ie grandparents) have to sacrifice their religious faith and traditions while the grandchildren are raised with the other parents and his or her families religious faith and traditions. I was absolutely disgusted! I am an out and out anti-Globalist and the mixing of religions is included. Protestant Christians should have nothing to do with atheists where religion is involved. In fact, no one of any religious faith should have anything to do with people of other faiths. It is an "us against them" scenario. The fact of the matter is that God has elected some for salvation and the vast majority He has elected for damnation. Passing feelings and emotions (which according to the Bible need to be hammered into submission, we should learn to control ourselves) does not change the Eternal Truths. At the OP: Why risk your eternal salvation to mingle with the pigs who are damned to hell?
Cut back on the hatred, because there but for the grace of God goes you. As a Christian, you should know you're called to be in the world but not of it. We mingle with atheists, because otherwise religion devolves into pig-headed self-congratulatory ☺☺☺☺☺☺☺s living in ivory towers. You're not called upon to pass judgment upon vast swathes of mankind based solely on your bias. A being of infinite power and infinite good does not create a universe in which he damns all but 144,000 to eternal fire.
Passing feelings and emotions are feelings like lust, gluttony and envy. These feelings need to be hammered into submission, but not faith, hope or love. The Bible I assume you're quoting actually mentions cases just like the OP's hypothetical scenario - its a scenario in which both partners need to understand their responsibilities and the OP needs to understand that he is responsible for his own faith and he needs to be a good exemplar of his faith. This means showing his faith through the way he lives and NOT through preaching fire and brimstone.
The local newspaper recently ran a newspaper of inter-religious couples who were married and I was absolutely disgusted. Inevitably one person (and their families, ie grandparents) have to sacrifice their religious faith and traditions while the grandchildren are raised with the other parents and his or her families religious faith and traditions. I was absolutely disgusted! I am an out and out anti-Globalist and the mixing of religions is included. Protestant Christians should have nothing to do with atheists where religion is involved. In fact, no one of any religious faith should have anything to do with people of other faiths. It is an "us against them" scenario. The fact of the matter is that God has elected some for salvation and the vast majority He has elected for damnation. Passing feelings and emotions (which according to the Bible need to be hammered into submission, we should learn to control ourselves) does not change the Eternal Truths. At the OP: Why risk your eternal salvation to mingle with the pigs who are damned to hell?
Just in the interest of not having to clean up the ensuing mess, you may want to recognize that on this site you're in a small minority if it is indeed an "us versus them" thing. Feel free to practice whatever beliefs you want on your own time, but around here kindly refrain from referring to everyone who is not of your faith as "the pigs who are damned to hell". It tends to ruffle feathers.
The local newspaper recently ran a newspaper of inter-religious couples who were married and I was absolutely disgusted. Inevitably one person (and their families, ie grandparents) have to sacrifice their religious faith and traditions while the grandchildren are raised with the other parents and his or her families religious faith and traditions. I was absolutely disgusted! I am an out and out anti-Globalist and the mixing of religions is included. Protestant Christians should have nothing to do with atheists where religion is involved. In fact, no one of any religious faith should have anything to do with people of other faiths. It is an "us against them" scenario. The fact of the matter is that God has elected some for salvation and the vast majority He has elected for damnation. Passing feelings and emotions (which according to the Bible need to be hammered into submission, we should learn to control ourselves) does not change the Eternal Truths. At the OP: Why risk your eternal salvation to mingle with the pigs who are damned to hell?
Huh, clever joke?
My wife and I grew up practicing different religions (I was Catholic, my wife was Mormon...based on our parents' beliefs), and marriage was not a problem (we had a non-denominational ceremony presided over by a Baptist minister tailored the way we wanted it). Our views have changed as we've grown together over the years (me being less religious and her being more religious), but we feel that our children can learn some quality values growing up with some kind of religion in their lives. We'll likely raise our children in a different, 3rd religion that closest represents what we now believe. And when our kids grow up, they can choose to follow their own personal beliefs as well. No big deal.
It's clear you're extremely religious (or sarcastic...interwebs makes it tough), and that's fine. I personally believe religion simply exists to explain things that science has yet to prove, but that's a completely different discussion for another thread. While I don't agree with the literal meaning behind many Bible passages, my own experience with my church growing up (in addition to how my parents raised me) taught me compasion, hard work, and selflessness...all qualities that many religious communities can provide to children as a complement to the lessons we as parents will teach them.
The local newspaper recently ran a newspaper of inter-religious couples who were married and I was absolutely disgusted. Inevitably one person (and their families, ie grandparents) have to sacrifice their religious faith and traditions while the grandchildren are raised with the other parents and his or her families religious faith and traditions. I was absolutely disgusted! I am an out and out anti-Globalist and the mixing of religions is included. Protestant Christians should have nothing to do with atheists where religion is involved. In fact, no one of any religious faith should have anything to do with people of other faiths. It is an "us against them" scenario. The fact of the matter is that God has elected some for salvation and the vast majority He has elected for damnation. Passing feelings and emotions (which according to the Bible need to be hammered into submission, we should learn to control ourselves) does not change the Eternal Truths. At the OP: Why risk your eternal salvation to mingle with the pigs who are damned to hell?
For the sake of humanity I hope against hope that you're joking.
This is exactly what's wrong with religion (at least religious extremism).
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I'm not sure, anyone has ever been in a situation where they are interested in a girl (but not for fling or anything like that), but religion seems to be the biggest obstacle. Like I know many girls who are christian, but have dated guys that are not (usually atheist) and they have arguments over religion (usually girls try to convert the guy and fails) and things usually go downhill after a few years with dreadful breakups.
So now i'm in a reverse situation where I am a Christian (Protestant) and the girl I'm interested in is an atheist. I know sure, we would probably overlook this fact for the first few months, but inevitably I would have to show her to my parents and my parents will expect a christian girlfriend (since purpose of dating to me is for the sole purpose of finding a spouse or else it would be a waste of my time and resources). Now if she isn't religious to begin with so is the battle already lost since changing a person's religious beliefs is usually futile and just go and find a christian girlfriend to save me this obstacle?
Anyone have any similar experiences (doesn't have to be christian)?
P.S. Getting a girlfriend to go out with me isn't my biggest problem (plenty of friends to choose from), but finding a girl with a personality similar to mine is
Religion is one of the least important things to consider when considering whether or not you want to date someone. Also, why do you care about what your parents will think? You're 22! I think you can stand a little disapproval from them. Maybe, just maybe you'll meet someone whose faith is different from yours but they're good enough to compromise for. The best relationships involve learning and growing and occasionally having your mind changed.
Why do you have to make her accept the religion. Is not like your kids will stay Christian forever if they don't want to.
I doubt they would ever be christian if you didn't teach them as kids. It is kind of hard to make people be religious unless they are taught when they can't make there own decisions left. That is one reason why religion is inherently flawed.
If I was 15 and just was taught about Santa Claus would I really beleive it?
It all depends on how religious the person is. I could never see a fundamental christian dating an atheist, they would drive each other insane. However, my girlfriend is a christian and I am an extreme atheist. For the most part, we have the exact same views. We both think religion has persecuted people over the years and caused countless deaths in war, but she doesn't think I'm going to hell or anything like that. We also both believe in evolution. The only main difference is that she believes in god and I don't, and I don't see anything wrong with that. People who believe in god are not crazy. Only the people who follow the bible word for word and preach of swarms of locus and all that ☺☺☺☺ are crazy. I have opened up my girlfrend's eyes to a lot of things too, and we get along really well otherwise as well.
Basically, it just depends on if you're on two complete opposite ends of the stick or not. If there's room for agreement, then the relationship has a chance of working.
I believe that I have enough social competence to slip into a party or two, potentially wooing some attractive females that would not mind spending the evening performing the booty dance on me.
I'm a... well I guess you could say atheist, I stopped believing in any religion some time ago... and my girlfriend is a Catholic. Like, goes to church every Sunday kinda girl. Me and her haven't really discussed it either. But if the (future) kids want to be Catholics, let em. If they want to be Atheist, let em. Hell, if they want to be Satanists, let them. I frankly don't care.
Not my choice. But I can tell you if she tries to forcefully convert them I'd be pretty pissed. I doubt she would though.
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@TheButt: I think you should talk to your girlfriend about her feelings instead of just trusting that being laissez-faire is the best way to go about it. If she's a go-to-church-every-Sunday girl, she may also be a but-of-course-you-baptise-your-kids-when-they're-born girl.
Why those relationships/dates worked out is because they don't obey each of the church's rules, like sex before marriage.
Snipped for truth, most people who don't consider themselves religious are big into pre-marital sex. And Christians want to lay with virgins on their wedding day, so thats a big issue. My old roommate said if his wife didn't bleed from consumation he plans to make her bleed from retribution(he said it multiple times, each time less jokingly). He is truly a worse person now due to his faith.
@TheButt: I think you should talk to your girlfriend about her feelings instead of just trusting that being laissez-faire is the best way to go about it. If she's a go-to-church-every-Sunday girl, she may also be a but-of-course-you-baptise-your-kids-when-they're-born girl.
I don't care if they're baptized tbh, but after that I want them to be able to pick for themselves tbh.
But yeah, we should talk about that. But later on, we are NOWHERE NEAR at the stage of even thinking about kids.
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Well, you've still got about fourteen hours before you're infracted for noncompliance. Talk to whomever you want.
Snipped for truth, most people who don't consider themselves religious are big into pre-marital sex. And Christians want to lay with virgins on their wedding day, so thats a big issue.
Let's be careful with blanket statements here. I'm Christian and I don't have a problem with pre-marital sex.
My old roommate said if his wife didn't bleed from consumation he plans to make her bleed from retribution(he said it multiple times, each time less jokingly). He is truly a worse person now due to his faith.
That is truly unfortunate.
Sterling Angel: May I ask why you don't want children?
I don't mean to pry. I ask because personally I'm someone who really wants kids, and I know there are people who don't, and I've never had the opportunity to ask someone as to their thoughts on the subject.
Sterling Angel: May I ask why you don't want children?
I don't mean to pry. I ask because personally I'm someone who really wants kids, and I know there are people who don't, and I've never had the opportunity to ask someone as to their thoughts on the subject.
I'm not her, but I as well don't want kids so maybe I can give a bit of perspective.
Why would anyone want to bring a new life into this craphole world? People are terrible and bringing a new one into that just seems rather selfish and short-sighted. Which isn't to say I don't appreciate my life (I do) or that I wish I hadn't been born (I live the crap out of my life every chance I get), I just don't think we should be adding to the mix the way we are.
Point of reference, a coworker just turned 20 three weeks ago. Two weeks ago she found out she's pregnant by her 21 year old emotionally troubled boyfriend of five months. Neither of them are financially secure, educated or at all prepared for this. And while they're all "were gon b teh best parents!!!!! love u! s+a 4eva" on Facebook and getting constant congrats and platitudes, my only thought is "well, that kid's ☺☺☺☺ed".
So no, I think we already have quite enough ☺☺☺☺ed up kids in this world, no need to add to the pile. We should be trying to do right by the children already here, not bringing more in.
Plus there's all kinds of financial and emotional reasons for which I think I'm better off not having spawn.
The local newspaper recently ran a newspaper of inter-religious couples who were married and I was absolutely disgusted. Inevitably one person (and their families, ie grandparents) have to sacrifice their religious faith and traditions while the grandchildren are raised with the other parents and his or her families religious faith and traditions. I was absolutely disgusted! I am an out and out anti-Globalist and the mixing of religions is included. Protestant Christians should have nothing to do with atheists where religion is involved. In fact, no one of any religious faith should have anything to do with people of other faiths. It is an "us against them" scenario. The fact of the matter is that God has elected some for salvation and the vast majority He has elected for damnation. Passing feelings and emotions (which according to the Bible need to be hammered into submission, we should learn to control ourselves) does not change the Eternal Truths. At the OP: Why risk your eternal salvation to mingle with the pigs who are damned to hell?
If you're not going to contribute to the convo, the least you could do is remain silent.
As my godmother used to say, religious intolerance is the hallmark of a sociopath.
While it's possible to be a sociopath and have no religious conviction whatever, dabbling equally in all faiths to serve some more mundane end; it is very common for the wolf to adopt the sheep's clothing, and out-sheep the sheep themselves.
That is the only Eternal Truth you need to remember. God proposes, man disposes as he will, most savagely against his fellow woman.
Thank you for sharing that, Sterling. I really respect your choice in that.
I wanted to ask because I know for me, I have imagined being a father. In fact, having kids is very much the core of where I envision my life going. So it's interesting to hear the other side of that.
On another note, I hope the business woman/scientist dream has been something you've realized/made great strides toward. Has that solidified for you?
I'm not sure, anyone has ever been in a situation where they are interested in a girl (but not for fling or anything like that), but religion seems to be the biggest obstacle. Like I know many girls who are christian, but have dated guys that are not (usually atheist) and they have arguments over religion (usually girls try to convert the guy and fails) and things usually go downhill after a few years with dreadful breakups.
So now i'm in a reverse situation where I am a Christian (Protestant) and the girl I'm interested in is an atheist. I know sure, we would probably overlook this fact for the first few months, but inevitably I would have to show her to my parents and my parents will expect a christian girlfriend (since purpose of dating to me is for the sole purpose of finding a spouse or else it would be a waste of my time and resources). Now if she isn't religious to begin with so is the battle already lost since changing a person's religious beliefs is usually futile and just go and find a christian girlfriend to save me this obstacle?
Anyone have any similar experiences (doesn't have to be christian)?
P.S. Getting a girlfriend to go out with me isn't my biggest problem (plenty of friends to choose from), but finding a girl with a personality similar to mine is
A couple of things I noticed here. You shouldn't choose a girlfriend just so it will please your parents. It is not their life, it is yours, and they can go ☺☺☺☺ themselves if they don't appreciate the choices YOU make. Remember this is like a MTG game : you choose the cards you want to put into your deck, not anyone else. You'll want these cards to be the best, as your partner.
You seem like you can get any girl you want. '.S. Getting a girlfriend to go out with me isn't my biggest problem (plenty of friends to choose from).' Just 'pick' the one you like most and call it a day. It's that simple. Of course in my opinion religion is only a way to drive life into human beings, a meaning to many, but the only valid point it has is teaching history and morale.
You can still be a christian, but don't let that decide for you. Remember religion is for many people the equivalent of a great novel, which it truly is.
Why do people think love is all that matters? I personally don't believe in love as it is just a complex mixture of emotions. The divorce rate statistics (50%) tells us love doesn't solve all problems or that it dies out.
The statistics tell us that people aren't marrying for love.
My wife and I have biracial children, basically we had a long talk about culture, language, and dealing with racism. Language was harder for her to adjust to, because we both agreed socially for our sanity that her learning my language was because:
1. Her own children being able to conspire against her in front of her face
2. Me being able to hold a conversation with them she couldn't understand
3. Easier to teach both kids together
4. Ability to talk to a child on a subject without having to be overheard by other others, it's sometimes rude but other times useful.
The only drawback was it was sort of expensive on kids books and some learning materials, but otherwise the pay off was great. It's going to be an ongoing process to keep them up to skill to be fluent in both speech and writing, but in the end a valuable skill and a chance to bring people closer.
We've discussed differences in traditions and outlooks, well in little kid terms but it's not as bad as some people make it out to be. It takes work and a bit of patience, but even if my kids don't pick up on something there's always the chance for grandchildren. The only thing my wife hates when she's out alone sometimes with the kids are the questions about adoption... other than that people haven't been too bad about the biracial thing.
If religion is a deal breaker, then end it. But I think because you are posting this question, that it isn’t for you. If you truly love this person, you respect everything that makes them who they are. The problem comes when it’s time for children. The question becomes: can you handle your children being raised as atheists? If the answer is no, ask yourself the question, can she handle her children being raised Christian?
I’m in an interracial and interfaith relationship. I’m a recovered Catholic (culturally Christian, but not a believer in organized religion or anything a bunch of dead old men wrote down and told us was from God, although I respect the need other people have for it) and my girlfriend of 6 years is Hindu. We both decided early on, once we were serious about one another, that we would blend our cultures. We celebrate Holi, Diwale and Christmas. Christmas took a lot for her to get used to, especially with my family giving her presents. Our children will be raised without being told what believe as far as religion goes, but we will both use the best parts from our faith to instruct our kids on morality. But our ‘religion’ lessons will be clear that they are only parables. I’m a big fan of the golden rule and quite a few of the parables from the New Testament (which many Christians typically conveniently forget on a regular basis, part of the reason I was disgusted enough to leave church and organized religion behind).
When they get older, if they want to choose a faith for themselves, that’s fine, but I also won’t allow anyone to attempt to brainwash them like was attempted with me, and frankly almost any child inducted into a religion. I think people should strive to be kind to one another and derive their strength from themselves, not because of an eternal reward but because it’s quite simply just how they would like to be treated.
Look, you can look at all these long winded explanations and advice essays that are being belted out over these past six pages, or you can accept a very short, simple fact.
The base of this problem is that you need a mate who is going to be Christian. An atheist is not going to feel comfortable going to church with you every sunday, is not going to sit idly by and allow you to raise your children christian with her love and support behind it, because she will be inherently opposed to what you are doing to the kids.
So as one Christian to another, as callous and blunt as this sounds, you need to end it, and find a fellow Christian. It's the only way your unshakable, unbending demands on marriage & raising of children is going to work out the way you want it. Because otherwise all you're saying "I love you honey and totally respect your atheist beliefs, but you have to do everything the Christian way if things are going to work between us".
P.S. Getting a girlfriend to go out with me isn't my biggest problem (plenty of friends to choose from), but finding a girl with a personality similar to mine is
If you're such an amazing ladies' man, why don't you just dodge this pothole from the onset and go find someone with matching personality and faith?
Inter-faith relationships can work, but require extra patience. Are you willing to work at it? If marriage is just a business deal to you, save yourself the headaches and avoid these relationships now.
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Cut back on the hatred, because there but for the grace of God goes you. As a Christian, you should know you're called to be in the world but not of it. We mingle with atheists, because otherwise religion devolves into pig-headed self-congratulatory ☺☺☺☺☺☺☺s living in ivory towers. You're not called upon to pass judgment upon vast swathes of mankind based solely on your bias. A being of infinite power and infinite good does not create a universe in which he damns all but 144,000 to eternal fire.
Passing feelings and emotions are feelings like lust, gluttony and envy. These feelings need to be hammered into submission, but not faith, hope or love. The Bible I assume you're quoting actually mentions cases just like the OP's hypothetical scenario - its a scenario in which both partners need to understand their responsibilities and the OP needs to understand that he is responsible for his own faith and he needs to be a good exemplar of his faith. This means showing his faith through the way he lives and NOT through preaching fire and brimstone.
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Just in the interest of not having to clean up the ensuing mess, you may want to recognize that on this site you're in a small minority if it is indeed an "us versus them" thing. Feel free to practice whatever beliefs you want on your own time, but around here kindly refrain from referring to everyone who is not of your faith as "the pigs who are damned to hell". It tends to ruffle feathers.
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Huh, clever joke?
My wife and I grew up practicing different religions (I was Catholic, my wife was Mormon...based on our parents' beliefs), and marriage was not a problem (we had a non-denominational ceremony presided over by a Baptist minister tailored the way we wanted it). Our views have changed as we've grown together over the years (me being less religious and her being more religious), but we feel that our children can learn some quality values growing up with some kind of religion in their lives. We'll likely raise our children in a different, 3rd religion that closest represents what we now believe. And when our kids grow up, they can choose to follow their own personal beliefs as well. No big deal.
It's clear you're extremely religious (or sarcastic...interwebs makes it tough), and that's fine. I personally believe religion simply exists to explain things that science has yet to prove, but that's a completely different discussion for another thread. While I don't agree with the literal meaning behind many Bible passages, my own experience with my church growing up (in addition to how my parents raised me) taught me compasion, hard work, and selflessness...all qualities that many religious communities can provide to children as a complement to the lessons we as parents will teach them.
For the sake of humanity I hope against hope that you're joking.
This is exactly what's wrong with religion (at least religious extremism).
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Religion is one of the least important things to consider when considering whether or not you want to date someone. Also, why do you care about what your parents will think? You're 22! I think you can stand a little disapproval from them. Maybe, just maybe you'll meet someone whose faith is different from yours but they're good enough to compromise for. The best relationships involve learning and growing and occasionally having your mind changed.
I doubt they would ever be christian if you didn't teach them as kids. It is kind of hard to make people be religious unless they are taught when they can't make there own decisions left. That is one reason why religion is inherently flawed.
If I was 15 and just was taught about Santa Claus would I really beleive it?
Basically, it just depends on if you're on two complete opposite ends of the stick or not. If there's room for agreement, then the relationship has a chance of working.
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Not my choice. But I can tell you if she tries to forcefully convert them I'd be pretty pissed. I doubt she would though.
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Snipped for truth, most people who don't consider themselves religious are big into pre-marital sex. And Christians want to lay with virgins on their wedding day, so thats a big issue. My old roommate said if his wife didn't bleed from consumation he plans to make her bleed from retribution(he said it multiple times, each time less jokingly). He is truly a worse person now due to his faith.
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I don't care if they're baptized tbh, but after that I want them to be able to pick for themselves tbh.
But yeah, we should talk about that. But later on, we are NOWHERE NEAR at the stage of even thinking about kids.
Let's be careful with blanket statements here. I'm Christian and I don't have a problem with pre-marital sex.
That is truly unfortunate.
Sterling Angel: May I ask why you don't want children?
I don't mean to pry. I ask because personally I'm someone who really wants kids, and I know there are people who don't, and I've never had the opportunity to ask someone as to their thoughts on the subject.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/11/AR2010081101961.html?hpid=sec-religion
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The article obviously doesn't mean there are any hard and fast rules, but its interesting all the same.
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I'm not her, but I as well don't want kids so maybe I can give a bit of perspective.
Why would anyone want to bring a new life into this craphole world? People are terrible and bringing a new one into that just seems rather selfish and short-sighted. Which isn't to say I don't appreciate my life (I do) or that I wish I hadn't been born (I live the crap out of my life every chance I get), I just don't think we should be adding to the mix the way we are.
Point of reference, a coworker just turned 20 three weeks ago. Two weeks ago she found out she's pregnant by her 21 year old emotionally troubled boyfriend of five months. Neither of them are financially secure, educated or at all prepared for this. And while they're all "were gon b teh best parents!!!!! love u! s+a 4eva" on Facebook and getting constant congrats and platitudes, my only thought is "well, that kid's ☺☺☺☺ed".
So no, I think we already have quite enough ☺☺☺☺ed up kids in this world, no need to add to the pile. We should be trying to do right by the children already here, not bringing more in.
Plus there's all kinds of financial and emotional reasons for which I think I'm better off not having spawn.
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If you're not going to contribute to the convo, the least you could do is remain silent.
As my godmother used to say, religious intolerance is the hallmark of a sociopath.
While it's possible to be a sociopath and have no religious conviction whatever, dabbling equally in all faiths to serve some more mundane end; it is very common for the wolf to adopt the sheep's clothing, and out-sheep the sheep themselves.
That is the only Eternal Truth you need to remember. God proposes, man disposes as he will, most savagely against his fellow woman.
I wanted to ask because I know for me, I have imagined being a father. In fact, having kids is very much the core of where I envision my life going. So it's interesting to hear the other side of that.
On another note, I hope the business woman/scientist dream has been something you've realized/made great strides toward. Has that solidified for you?
A couple of things I noticed here. You shouldn't choose a girlfriend just so it will please your parents. It is not their life, it is yours, and they can go ☺☺☺☺ themselves if they don't appreciate the choices YOU make. Remember this is like a MTG game : you choose the cards you want to put into your deck, not anyone else. You'll want these cards to be the best, as your partner.
You seem like you can get any girl you want. '.S. Getting a girlfriend to go out with me isn't my biggest problem (plenty of friends to choose from).' Just 'pick' the one you like most and call it a day. It's that simple. Of course in my opinion religion is only a way to drive life into human beings, a meaning to many, but the only valid point it has is teaching history and morale.
You can still be a christian, but don't let that decide for you. Remember religion is for many people the equivalent of a great novel, which it truly is.
The statistics tell us that people aren't marrying for love.
1. Her own children being able to conspire against her in front of her face
2. Me being able to hold a conversation with them she couldn't understand
3. Easier to teach both kids together
4. Ability to talk to a child on a subject without having to be overheard by other others, it's sometimes rude but other times useful.
The only drawback was it was sort of expensive on kids books and some learning materials, but otherwise the pay off was great. It's going to be an ongoing process to keep them up to skill to be fluent in both speech and writing, but in the end a valuable skill and a chance to bring people closer.
We've discussed differences in traditions and outlooks, well in little kid terms but it's not as bad as some people make it out to be. It takes work and a bit of patience, but even if my kids don't pick up on something there's always the chance for grandchildren. The only thing my wife hates when she's out alone sometimes with the kids are the questions about adoption... other than that people haven't been too bad about the biracial thing.
Ambition must be made to counteract ambition.
Individualities may form communities, but it is institutions alone that can create a nation.
Nothing succeeds like the appearance of success.
Here is my principle: Taxes shall be levied according to ability to pay. That is the only American principle.
I’m in an interracial and interfaith relationship. I’m a recovered Catholic (culturally Christian, but not a believer in organized religion or anything a bunch of dead old men wrote down and told us was from God, although I respect the need other people have for it) and my girlfriend of 6 years is Hindu. We both decided early on, once we were serious about one another, that we would blend our cultures. We celebrate Holi, Diwale and Christmas. Christmas took a lot for her to get used to, especially with my family giving her presents. Our children will be raised without being told what believe as far as religion goes, but we will both use the best parts from our faith to instruct our kids on morality. But our ‘religion’ lessons will be clear that they are only parables. I’m a big fan of the golden rule and quite a few of the parables from the New Testament (which many Christians typically conveniently forget on a regular basis, part of the reason I was disgusted enough to leave church and organized religion behind).
When they get older, if they want to choose a faith for themselves, that’s fine, but I also won’t allow anyone to attempt to brainwash them like was attempted with me, and frankly almost any child inducted into a religion. I think people should strive to be kind to one another and derive their strength from themselves, not because of an eternal reward but because it’s quite simply just how they would like to be treated.
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The base of this problem is that you need a mate who is going to be Christian. An atheist is not going to feel comfortable going to church with you every sunday, is not going to sit idly by and allow you to raise your children christian with her love and support behind it, because she will be inherently opposed to what you are doing to the kids.
So as one Christian to another, as callous and blunt as this sounds, you need to end it, and find a fellow Christian. It's the only way your unshakable, unbending demands on marriage & raising of children is going to work out the way you want it. Because otherwise all you're saying "I love you honey and totally respect your atheist beliefs, but you have to do everything the Christian way if things are going to work between us".
That's not fair to her or to yourself. End it.
If you're such an amazing ladies' man, why don't you just dodge this pothole from the onset and go find someone with matching personality and faith?
Inter-faith relationships can work, but require extra patience. Are you willing to work at it? If marriage is just a business deal to you, save yourself the headaches and avoid these relationships now.