Majority rules, Mike. You know that. Just because the entirety is not awkward virginal losers does not mean most aren't. That means more bad advice than good will surface. I can think of any LGS I play at. There are 2ish normal people and 15+ smelly, unkempt manchildren. You'd ask dating advice in that shop? No.
I can honestly guess or estimate that the majority of this board is single, probably has had less than two girls in bed before.... and other such stereotypes that comes with being a nerd.
Show numbers or gtfo. Your guesses and estimations are meaningless.
As mikeyG said, even if that were the case there are still experienced people here who can provide meaningful advice. And as flappy said, the fact that people here are likely to have gone through similar situations and have been of a similar mindset makes their advice more valuable than someone who's a jock and never had any trouble getting girls because they've never really had self-confidence issues.
@ljossberir: Good Lord, for a split second I thought you were going to be posting homemade porn pics to show how many girls you've been with. That would've certainly shown him!
I just want it noted that girls aren't magically any better at dealing with guy issues. So a lot of the situations where you're seriously unsure of what to do and need advice... odds are she's not any more sure of things than you are.
Disagree. From what I've seen, girls can pick up a guy much more easily than a guy can pick up a girl. There *are* exceptions of course, and some moderately attractive girls I know just can't pick up a guy to save their lives.
But by and large, I have seen girls know instinctually how to handle the dating scene much more easily than guys do.
Disagree. It's easier to go out and obtain something for yourself then trying to draw the thing you want to you.
Now granted, I'd probably agree that if a girl wore really ☺☺☺☺ty clothes and acted all flirty she'd have tons of guys after her. That's probably not going to get her a quality guy though. But quite frankly, a guy could dress really suave and confidently approach tons of girls and ask tons of them out and he'd get just as many.
This seems like it belongs in Debate though, so I'll just drop it.
I can think of any LGS I play at. There are 2ish normal people and 15+ smelly, unkempt manchildren.
And which group do you consider yourself a part of?
You do make an interesting point though. It just doesn't seem that the nerds who are clueless with women are giving advice on the topic very often here. I mean occasionally someone will say "You need to become really close friends with her first, and then one day you may be put in a situation where you save her life and she will then fall in love with you." or some equally silly and impractical advice. But usually it seems to be the guys with some experience giving advice here.
I suppose it would help to include one's experience when giving advice so that the one seeking it has an idea how much value to place in it. However, being the internwebz, anyone could just make up whatever they wanted. "Pics or it didn't happen" wouldn't really fly for this purpose either.
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Also, it would suck if somebody accidentally deflated her.
What in the *** is up with this comment?
You do realize if you are actually trying to say he's lying and he's obviously that much of a loser, you need to look in the mirror. You are on these boards too.
[quote=InfinityAlarm;/comments/11490805]It just doesn't seem that the nerds who are clueless with women are giving advice on the topic very often here. I mean occasionally someone will say "You need to become really close friends with her first, and then one day you may be put in a situation where you save her life and she will then fall in love with you." or some equally silly and impractical advice. quote]
What are you talking about, that's great advice :p.
Steve, In all seriousness, why did you make this thread? Why are you on this board? I find it more pathetic when someone feels the need to put down people they consider 'pathetic', than for those 'pathetic' people to ask for help from other people who may have been in their situation. I guess if your self esteem is so low you need to feel better than some other people who post on a magic card site on the internet, do whatever keeps you from falling into a deep depression.
Steve, In all seriousness, why did you make this thread? Why are you on this board? I find it more pathetic when someone feels the need to put down people they consider 'pathetic', than for those 'pathetic' people to ask for help from other people who may have been in their situation. I guess if your self esteem is so low you need to feel better than some other people who post on a magic card site on the internet, do whatever keeps you from killing yourself.
Well Jay, in all seriousness, I made this thread because I'm trying to get an infraction...and up to this point, I've been unsuccessful. Sad Face.
My self esteem is pretty high though sometimes I still have to cry myself to sleep at night because I am alone and no one loves me. Maybe I should take these forums seriously! It seems that a lot of people here have good advice and can legitimitely help me with my life which sort of sucks at the moment.
You do realize if you are actually trying to say he's lying and he's obviously that much of a loser, you need to look in the mirror. You are on these boards too.
Jesus christ.
Lighten up man, it was a jest. Just report it if you don't like it. I fully embrace my geekdom and enjoy it. Also, a member search for Kal-El will reveal my fiance.
...and in case I don't get one just for linking to those...
Watch this:
Dear stevewaski, you are retarded. I don't mean it in the sense that you have a mental disability. No, that would be quite appropriate. What I mean is that you are rather ridiculous in the same way that some newcomer to this forum during rumor season might say "Wow, that newly spoiled card is retarded!" which we all know, of course, is less appropriate and quite infraction worthy.
In truth however, I haven't been completely honest with you... I actually did mean that you probably are mentally disabled and that I don't find your posts to be very intelligent or useful, but I think most of us are having fun playing cyber grab-ass in this silly (almost said retarded there... close one) thread anyway, except maybe killem2. He kind of lost it there... Anyway, I digress. What I have been working toward here is taking the issue of how retarded and unintelligent your posts are and transplanting it directly upon you in "Ad Hominem" fashion. That is to say that I find you, yourself to be quite clearly retarded, obnoxious and exceptionally pitiable. And of course pity was what you genuinely came here looking for, and pity is what we now have bestowed upon you, you sad, goofy, sexually-ambiguous retard, you. May everything about you change such that you may live on as an inverse of your former self and find a level of happiness your current form robs you of. Good Luck!
Sincerely, Big Derk
EDIT: PS you can hit the report button at the bottom left corner of your thread to report yourself.
Disagree. From what I've seen, girls can pick up a guy much more easily than a guy can pick up a girl.
Oh, sure, a girl can pick up "a" guy relatively easily (if you truly have no standards, the first guy who you can get a few drinks into will usually do), but a guy worth the time of day? That's a little bit harder. I know the stereotype goes that a guy will take any girl he can get, and that there are women who'll take any guy they can get, but most of the time all around you're looking for someone you'll actually like, and that's nothing close to a free ride no matter your genitalia.
(yes, I know girls can pursue guys, or other girls, or sea lions if they want. I'm talking about how society presents the roles here.)
This is actually why I find "alternative" scenes better than run-of-the-mill heteronormative dating. Less strict social roles all around when everyone's making their own role.
You can't be judged by people you actually know, so they probably feel safer.
Yea you can.
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Disagree. It's easier to go out and obtain something for yourself then trying to draw the thing you want to you.
I understand what you said, and it's a valid point, but no matter how many times I reread it I can't fathom how that addresses my statement in any way...
I think you tried to counter A with B, but accidentally said C, which is a valid counter to a different argument...
Oh, sure, a girl can pick up "a" guy relatively easily (if you truly have no standards, the first guy who you can get a few drinks into will usually do), but a guy worth the time of day? That's a little bit harder. I know the stereotype goes that a guy will take any girl he can get, and that there are women who'll take any guy they can get, but most of the time all around you're looking for someone you'll actually like, and that's nothing close to a free ride no matter your genitalia.
Again, I stand by my previous statement, this time pointing to the fact that since girls have an easier time dating in general, they by extension and definition have an easier time finding someone worth dating, and better chances of winning them over, compared to a guy of similar personality and attractiveness.
Majority rules, Mike. You know that. Just because the entirety is not awkward virginal losers does not mean most aren't.
Are they? No, really, are they? I'm not trying to say 'awkward virginal losers' are a rarity here, but by no means do I think they're the majority. And even if they were, that doesn't mean they're all posting bad advice in RLA (or even posting in here to begin with). I mean, even 'awkward virginal losers' can have enough sense to offer worthwhile advice from time to time.
I mean, I've only over held one relationship longer than a month or so, I still give relationship advice.
Let's not kid ourselves here. If you're a woman and an 8 or higher, you can pretty much ask any guy you see out and there's a tremendous chance they'll accept on spot unless they're happily taken
And a guy that's an 8 or higher can do the same. What's your point?
The one who approaches always assumes a submissive role because it's your job to convince her that you're worth her time, not the other way around.
Wow, no. Not at all really. You're both seeing if you're interested in each other. So you're being submissive when approaching, eh? Have much luck with that? Being assertive is far more effective.
Not to mention you have to deal with the additional pressure of the possibility of being turned down for various reasons (she may even just be taken and there would be no way for you to know).
Whew, what pressure! She may not turn out to be to your liking, so what's the big deal? You're getting to know each other.
It's pretty close to a 50/50 split between the genders except for a few places in the world. So, Supply ~= Demand. So, no, it isn't a matter of supply and demand, actually.
Again, I stand by my previous statement, this time pointing to the fact that since girls have an easier time dating in general, they by extension and definition have an easier time finding someone worth dating, and better chances of winning them over, compared to a guy of similar personality and attractiveness.
This assumes that as the volume of potential partners increases, the ratio of worthwhile to not worthwhile people stays the same. This, however, is not the case.
Jace on the other hand gives you card advantage for no life cost. On the contrary, Jace can actually take some damage for you. I'd think that makes him better than Arena.
And a guy that's an 8 or higher can do the same. What's your point?
Wow, no. Not at all really. You're both seeing if you're interested in each other. So you're being submissive when approaching, eh? Have much luck with that? Being assertive is far more effective.
Whew, what pressure! She may not turn out to be to your liking, so what's the big deal? You're getting to know each other.
It's pretty close to a 50/50 split between the genders except for a few places in the world. So, Supply ~= Demand. So, no, it isn't a matter of supply and demand, actually.
Evidence to support this claim?
There's roughly the same number of single women as there are men.
This is probably the absolute most misguided post I have read in this section, an 8 man cannot ask any girl out and get a yes, the fact is a lot of better looking women date as thier meal ticket, so unless you're 8+ and rich you're wrong.
the second part is right too, the approacher (if the woman is over a 5 it's almost always the man) is in a submissive role, the girl gets to say "what can you do for me" a guy trying to date a girl he's not either higher than or knows extremely well is simmilar to a job interview.
You apparantly care nothing for your own reputation, if you get rejected by one girl, other girls who know that girl will look at you as less than they did.
The dating scene is definately not an even 50/50 split, 70/30 would be being generous, you forget that most self respecting guys (me included) don't count fat girls or any girl under a 4.
If you really don't know this is true then I don't know what to do with you, think about it and you'll probably remember the hottest girl in your 8th grade class was dating a junior in high school, girls ussually don't date up into looks, they date into status money and power.
You are right that there are roughly the same, I'd even venture to say there are probably more women, however you forget that most guys don't really see ugly girls as girls, I mean would you date a girl who you were embarassed to be seen with.
To sum up my post the guy you were quoting said a whole bunch of correct stuff and you disputed leading me to believe, either A-you are an ugly girl or B-you are a socially inept guy who is dating an ugly girl. Because the stuff you just tried to dispute is known by EVERY high school/college student who is not socially crippled.
This is probably the absolute most misguided post I have read in this section, an 8 man cannot ask any girl out and get a yes, the fact is a lot of better looking women date as thier meal ticket, so unless you're 8+ and rich you're wrong.
I was including money and power in my assessment of a guy's attractiveness number. I was not basing it solely on looks since that is not the only thing females care about. So yeah, if a guy is an 8+ he's either an absolute knockout in the looks department or has money and/or power.
the second part is right too, the approacher (if the woman is over a 5 it's almost always the man) is in a submissive role, the girl gets to say "what can you do for me"
And that is why you're doing it wrong. You need to learn how to turn the approached girl into the submissive one.
The dating scene is definately not an even 50/50 split, 70/30 would be being generous, you forget that most self respecting guys (me included) don't count fat girls or any girl under a 4.
So we don't count the girls 4 and under, but we do count the guys 4 and under? Um, no wonder you don't call it a 50/50 split. If you take out the guys 4 and under (why are we doing this again?) guess what? It's roughly a 50/50 split. Quite frankly we shouldn't be taking anyone out because the 4-and-unders generally go after the 4-and-unders.
If you really don't know this is true then I don't know what to do with you, think about it and you'll probably remember the hottest girl in your 8th grade class was dating a junior in high school, girls ussually don't date up into looks, they date into status money and power.
Okay, let's say that's true. So we have ~9 (hot girl) dating ~9 (guy with status). Your point?
You are right that there are roughly the same, I'd even venture to say there are probably more women, however you forget that most guys don't really see ugly girls as girls,
And girls don't really see guys with no status/money/power/good looks as guys. Those guys end up with the ugly girls. You are excluding unattractive girls but failing to exclude unattractive guys.
leading me to believe, either A-you are an ugly girl or B-you are a socially inept guy who is dating an ugly girl. Because the stuff you just tried to dispute is known by EVERY high school/college student who is not socially crippled.
If I cared what a random internet guy thought, I'd go ahead and include a picture of my fiancée and I. But even if I did that there's no way to verify it's really a picture of my fiancée and I, now is there? So I'll just inform you that you're wrong on both counts. Care to try again?
Look, I'm not disputing that girls can date "up" into power/status/money. They can do this with better looks. That's like saying that a guy can date "up" to a girls with good looks because of his power/status/money. wtf are we even arguing about really?
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I was including money and power in my assessment of a guy's attractiveness number. I was not basing it solely on looks since that is not the only thing females care about. So yeah, if a guy is an 8+ he's either an absolute knockout in the looks department or has money and/or power.
And that is why you're doing it wrong. You need to learn how to turn the approached girl into the submissive one.
Really? That's how you do it? Approaching girls like a job interview? How's that working for you?
Not much. Why would I?
So you move on to other girls not connected with those ones.
So we don't count the girls 4 and under, but we do count the guys 4 and under? Um, no wonder you don't call it a 50/50 split. If you take out the guys 4 and under (why are we doing this again?) guess what? It's roughly a 50/50 split. Quite frankly we shouldn't be taking anyone out because the 4-and-unders generally go after the 4-and-unders.
Okay, let's say that's true. So we have ~9 (hot girl) dating ~9 (guy with status). Your point?
And girls don't really see guys with no status/money/power/good looks as guys. Those guys end up with the ugly girls. You are excluding unattractive girls but failing to exclude unattractive guys.
To sum up my post, go back and re-read my other one considering that I'm rating both girls and guys on attractiveness, not looks.
If I cared what a random internet guy thought, I'd go ahead and include a picture of my fiancée and I. But even if I did that there's no way to verify it's really a picture of my fiancée and I, now is there? So I'll just inform you that you're wrong on both counts. Care to try again?
Look, I'm not disputing that girls can date "up" into power/status/money. They can do this with better looks. That's like saying that a guy can date "up" to a girls with good looks because of his power/status/money. wtf are we even arguing about really?
I apparantly misunderstood you, I didn't know we were factoring other things, however if we are factoring all things, there are many more girls under 4 than guys simply because of the fact that girls never really have money or power. I'm confused too, I apparantly misread your post, because the only thing I think we actually disagree on is the split of the dating scene, but I'm confused too so lets just agree to disagree.
Conceited but true: I've dated more than a couple models, an 18 year old when I was 14, captain of one of the biggest cheer teams in NJ when i was 15, and a 21 year old when I was 16, and I'm just gonna spit this out right now.
You guys are totally overblowing the power/status argument. It comes down to 2 things MAIN, power and status are secondary features.
Looks, as a number 1. The ability to keep the girl interested number 2. (or if she has self esteem issues and you just happen to click really well. I've seen girls I would give an 8 to dating morbidly obese guys with more facial hair than I have on my head.)
Power and status are *NOT* as important as you guys think, for whatever reason.
Before you try and refute me, chances are I probably have a lot more experience and success in this area than you do, so keep that in mind.
Before you try and refute me, chances are I probably have a lot more experience and success in this area than you do, so keep that in mind.
/conceited rant
But apparently not the wisdom to realize that (being a large group made up of billions of individuals) women in fact have varying priorities when it comes to what they look for in a man so generalizing what they want is foolhardy at best. Some women require looks. Others look for personality. Some look for wealth/status. Some have a few main priorities but are lax with the rest. And that all gets affected by things like culture, age, religion, finances, etc, etc.
But if you want to keep acting like the Chick Whisperer because you think your conquests made you an expert, be my guest.
I'll put this bluntly. If a really cool, unique guy went up to a normal girl, and is ugly, he's weird. if he goes up and is hot, then he's cool and unique.
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Majority rules, Mike. You know that. Just because the entirety is not awkward virginal losers does not mean most aren't. That means more bad advice than good will surface. I can think of any LGS I play at. There are 2ish normal people and 15+ smelly, unkempt manchildren. You'd ask dating advice in that shop? No.
Nor here.
Show numbers or gtfo. Your guesses and estimations are meaningless.
As mikeyG said, even if that were the case there are still experienced people here who can provide meaningful advice. And as flappy said, the fact that people here are likely to have gone through similar situations and have been of a similar mindset makes their advice more valuable than someone who's a jock and never had any trouble getting girls because they've never really had self-confidence issues.
@ljossberir: Good Lord, for a split second I thought you were going to be posting homemade porn pics to show how many girls you've been with. That would've certainly shown him!
Seriously, you're right on here.
Disagree. It's easier to go out and obtain something for yourself then trying to draw the thing you want to you.
Now granted, I'd probably agree that if a girl wore really ☺☺☺☺ty clothes and acted all flirty she'd have tons of guys after her. That's probably not going to get her a quality guy though. But quite frankly, a guy could dress really suave and confidently approach tons of girls and ask tons of them out and he'd get just as many.
This seems like it belongs in Debate though, so I'll just drop it.
Also, it would suck if somebody accidentally deflated her.
And which group do you consider yourself a part of?
You do make an interesting point though. It just doesn't seem that the nerds who are clueless with women are giving advice on the topic very often here. I mean occasionally someone will say "You need to become really close friends with her first, and then one day you may be put in a situation where you save her life and she will then fall in love with you." or some equally silly and impractical advice. But usually it seems to be the guys with some experience giving advice here.
I suppose it would help to include one's experience when giving advice so that the one seeking it has an idea how much value to place in it. However, being the internwebz, anyone could just make up whatever they wanted. "Pics or it didn't happen" wouldn't really fly for this purpose either.
No it really isn't.
What in the *** is up with this comment?
You do realize if you are actually trying to say he's lying and he's obviously that much of a loser, you need to look in the mirror. You are on these boards too.
Jesus christ.
What are you talking about, that's great advice :p.
Steve, In all seriousness, why did you make this thread? Why are you on this board? I find it more pathetic when someone feels the need to put down people they consider 'pathetic', than for those 'pathetic' people to ask for help from other people who may have been in their situation. I guess if your self esteem is so low you need to feel better than some other people who post on a magic card site on the internet, do whatever keeps you from falling into a deep depression.
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Well Jay, in all seriousness, I made this thread because I'm trying to get an infraction...and up to this point, I've been unsuccessful. Sad Face.
My self esteem is pretty high though sometimes I still have to cry myself to sleep at night because I am alone and no one loves me. Maybe I should take these forums seriously! It seems that a lot of people here have good advice and can legitimitely help me with my life which sort of sucks at the moment.
So you think that basing what you want in life off of a sitcom is a good idea?
I wonder what the DSM-IV-TR would have to say about that.
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Lighten up man, it was a jest. Just report it if you don't like it. I fully embrace my geekdom and enjoy it. Also, a member search for Kal-El will reveal my fiance.
Here are a couple easy ones of my own:
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showpost.php?p=6023320&postcount=38
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showpost.php?p=6192911&postcount=7
...and in case I don't get one just for linking to those...
Watch this:
Dear stevewaski, you are retarded. I don't mean it in the sense that you have a mental disability. No, that would be quite appropriate. What I mean is that you are rather ridiculous in the same way that some newcomer to this forum during rumor season might say "Wow, that newly spoiled card is retarded!" which we all know, of course, is less appropriate and quite infraction worthy.
In truth however, I haven't been completely honest with you... I actually did mean that you probably are mentally disabled and that I don't find your posts to be very intelligent or useful, but I think most of us are having fun playing cyber grab-ass in this silly (almost said retarded there... close one) thread anyway, except maybe killem2. He kind of lost it there... Anyway, I digress. What I have been working toward here is taking the issue of how retarded and unintelligent your posts are and transplanting it directly upon you in "Ad Hominem" fashion. That is to say that I find you, yourself to be quite clearly retarded, obnoxious and exceptionally pitiable. And of course pity was what you genuinely came here looking for, and pity is what we now have bestowed upon you, you sad, goofy, sexually-ambiguous retard, you. May everything about you change such that you may live on as an inverse of your former self and find a level of happiness your current form robs you of. Good Luck!
Sincerely, Big Derk
EDIT: PS you can hit the report button at the bottom left corner of your thread to report yourself.
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Oh, sure, a girl can pick up "a" guy relatively easily (if you truly have no standards, the first guy who you can get a few drinks into will usually do), but a guy worth the time of day? That's a little bit harder. I know the stereotype goes that a guy will take any girl he can get, and that there are women who'll take any guy they can get, but most of the time all around you're looking for someone you'll actually like, and that's nothing close to a free ride no matter your genitalia.
This is actually why I find "alternative" scenes better than run-of-the-mill heteronormative dating. Less strict social roles all around when everyone's making their own role.
Yea you can.
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I understand what you said, and it's a valid point, but no matter how many times I reread it I can't fathom how that addresses my statement in any way...
I think you tried to counter A with B, but accidentally said C, which is a valid counter to a different argument...
Again, I stand by my previous statement, this time pointing to the fact that since girls have an easier time dating in general, they by extension and definition have an easier time finding someone worth dating, and better chances of winning them over, compared to a guy of similar personality and attractiveness.
Are they? No, really, are they? I'm not trying to say 'awkward virginal losers' are a rarity here, but by no means do I think they're the majority. And even if they were, that doesn't mean they're all posting bad advice in RLA (or even posting in here to begin with). I mean, even 'awkward virginal losers' can have enough sense to offer worthwhile advice from time to time.
I mean, I've only over held one relationship longer than a month or so, I still give relationship advice.
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And a guy that's an 8 or higher can do the same. What's your point?
Wow, no. Not at all really. You're both seeing if you're interested in each other. So you're being submissive when approaching, eh? Have much luck with that? Being assertive is far more effective.
Whew, what pressure! She may not turn out to be to your liking, so what's the big deal? You're getting to know each other.
It's pretty close to a 50/50 split between the genders except for a few places in the world. So, Supply ~= Demand. So, no, it isn't a matter of supply and demand, actually.
Evidence to support this claim?
There's roughly the same number of single women as there are men.
This assumes that as the volume of potential partners increases, the ratio of worthwhile to not worthwhile people stays the same. This, however, is not the case.
Hell, just look at my ex...she downgraded from me to an absolute gargoyle...
...but a gargoyle with a job :(.
This is probably the absolute most misguided post I have read in this section, an 8 man cannot ask any girl out and get a yes, the fact is a lot of better looking women date as thier meal ticket, so unless you're 8+ and rich you're wrong.
the second part is right too, the approacher (if the woman is over a 5 it's almost always the man) is in a submissive role, the girl gets to say "what can you do for me" a guy trying to date a girl he's not either higher than or knows extremely well is simmilar to a job interview.
You apparantly care nothing for your own reputation, if you get rejected by one girl, other girls who know that girl will look at you as less than they did.
The dating scene is definately not an even 50/50 split, 70/30 would be being generous, you forget that most self respecting guys (me included) don't count fat girls or any girl under a 4.
If you really don't know this is true then I don't know what to do with you, think about it and you'll probably remember the hottest girl in your 8th grade class was dating a junior in high school, girls ussually don't date up into looks, they date into status money and power.
You are right that there are roughly the same, I'd even venture to say there are probably more women, however you forget that most guys don't really see ugly girls as girls, I mean would you date a girl who you were embarassed to be seen with.
To sum up my post the guy you were quoting said a whole bunch of correct stuff and you disputed leading me to believe, either A-you are an ugly girl or B-you are a socially inept guy who is dating an ugly girl. Because the stuff you just tried to dispute is known by EVERY high school/college student who is not socially crippled.
I was including money and power in my assessment of a guy's attractiveness number. I was not basing it solely on looks since that is not the only thing females care about. So yeah, if a guy is an 8+ he's either an absolute knockout in the looks department or has money and/or power.
And that is why you're doing it wrong. You need to learn how to turn the approached girl into the submissive one.
Really? That's how you do it? Approaching girls like a job interview? How's that working for you?
Not much. Why would I?
So you move on to other girls not connected with those ones.
So we don't count the girls 4 and under, but we do count the guys 4 and under? Um, no wonder you don't call it a 50/50 split. If you take out the guys 4 and under (why are we doing this again?) guess what? It's roughly a 50/50 split. Quite frankly we shouldn't be taking anyone out because the 4-and-unders generally go after the 4-and-unders.
Okay, let's say that's true. So we have ~9 (hot girl) dating ~9 (guy with status). Your point?
And girls don't really see guys with no status/money/power/good looks as guys. Those guys end up with the ugly girls. You are excluding unattractive girls but failing to exclude unattractive guys.
To sum up my post, go back and re-read my other one considering that I'm rating both girls and guys on attractiveness, not looks.
If I cared what a random internet guy thought, I'd go ahead and include a picture of my fiancée and I. But even if I did that there's no way to verify it's really a picture of my fiancée and I, now is there? So I'll just inform you that you're wrong on both counts. Care to try again?
Look, I'm not disputing that girls can date "up" into power/status/money. They can do this with better looks. That's like saying that a guy can date "up" to a girls with good looks because of his power/status/money. wtf are we even arguing about really?
I apparantly misunderstood you, I didn't know we were factoring other things, however if we are factoring all things, there are many more girls under 4 than guys simply because of the fact that girls never really have money or power. I'm confused too, I apparantly misread your post, because the only thing I think we actually disagree on is the split of the dating scene, but I'm confused too so lets just agree to disagree.
edit-also I can't hate a fellow blue/green player
You guys are totally overblowing the power/status argument. It comes down to 2 things MAIN, power and status are secondary features.
Looks, as a number 1. The ability to keep the girl interested number 2. (or if she has self esteem issues and you just happen to click really well. I've seen girls I would give an 8 to dating morbidly obese guys with more facial hair than I have on my head.)
Power and status are *NOT* as important as you guys think, for whatever reason.
Before you try and refute me, chances are I probably have a lot more experience and success in this area than you do, so keep that in mind.
/conceited rant
But apparently not the wisdom to realize that (being a large group made up of billions of individuals) women in fact have varying priorities when it comes to what they look for in a man so generalizing what they want is foolhardy at best. Some women require looks. Others look for personality. Some look for wealth/status. Some have a few main priorities but are lax with the rest. And that all gets affected by things like culture, age, religion, finances, etc, etc.
But if you want to keep acting like the Chick Whisperer because you think your conquests made you an expert, be my guest.
Archatmos
Excellion
Fracture: Israfiel (WBR), Wujal (URG), Valedon (GUB), Amduat (BGW), Paladris (RWU)
Collision (Set Two of the Fracture Block)
Quest for the Forsaken (Set Two of the Excellion Block)
Katingal: Plane of Chains
keep telling yourself that to feel better about the pathetic situation you find yourself with on that other thread you started...
Warning for trolling