Oh god, this thread is full of fail. Usually I HATE(with Passion) mods who close threads that are full of failing discussion as something great comes out in the end (even if it's just lulz at the poster's expense) but this is really horrible. A close would be nice. This is basicly a big dick thread where people say size doesnt matter and others say yes it does. Proliferate. Then do it again. The discussion continues to flame even after this post are infracted. Then theres a guy that comes once in a while with I GOT 8 INCHES!!!! and doesn't contribute.
That said:
For credibility reasons: Please don't post personnal "accomplishements" they don't contribute and make us doubt you more.
However, to whomever was dissing Toai(or whoever the girl here was). I think I sorta agree with her, I'll reread her posts bt they seem to make sense (Or maybe I have a girl's point of view on this).
EDIT: Fine, I'll get involved. First, I doubt either of you should consider yourself professionals.
Second: Teia being picked on by a few people here: You sound like the guys who pick on the girl they can never hope to get cause she is way above them or from the internet. Third, Teia seems to know her ☺☺☺☺, listen to her.
I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to see some proof on this...saying you're this or that on the internet is incredibly easy, when no one is double checking you...
Because I highly doubt you are a professional in any sense of the word...I've been practicing Brazilian Jui-Jutsu for over 6 years, and I can *barely* call myself a 'professional'. And considering your age, I just don't buy it...
Have any way to verify this?
You can call bull☺☺☺☺ all day long, but I'm not giving you any personal information other than what's in my profile. as you said, it's the interenet, and for all you know I AM a 35 year old fat manchild living in his parents basement.
Actually...
Does anyone from timewarp in cedar grove NJ use these forums? Pretty much anyone in the store can back me up lol.
3. So monogamous relationships aren't your cup of tea. The rest of the world does not subscribe to your beliefs.
I'd wager that most people in monogamous relationships either had prior monogamous relationships or will have different monogamous relationships in the future. Some people marry their childhood sweetheart and live happily ever after. Good on them. That's not the case for everyone. Most people go through several relationships prior to getting married.
About 50 percent of first marriages for men under age 45 may end in divorce, and between 44 and 52 percent of women’s first marriages may end in divorce for these age groups. - A census report of divorce rates in 1996 published in 2002; the quote is from page 18.
Note this report reflects a time prior to the era of myspace, facebook, text messaging, and the hookup-culture that exists in the US today. Also, there's no guarantee that the 50% of marriages that are stable are necessarily happy ones. People will stay together for financial reasons, for the sake of the children, or due to the fear of loneliness overpowering the misery of being in an unhappy marriage.
My original point earlier is that guys have problems when they stake too much emotionally on any one particular girl/woman. Date different girls/women. If you still want monogamy, try settling down with the one that suits you best after having had some dating experience. I believe marrying your first girlfriend without getting to know other women is probably a mistake for most people.
"A rich man thinks all other people are rich, and an intelligent man thinks all other people are similarly gifted. Both are always terribly shocked when they discover the truth of the world. You, my dear brother, are a pious man." - Strahd von Zarovich
Oh god, this thread is full of fail. Usually I HATE(with Passion) mods who close threads that are full of failing discussion as something great comes out in the end (even if it's just lulz at the poster's expense) but this is really horrible. A close would be nice. This is basicly a big dick thread where people say size doesnt matter and others say yes it does. Proliferate. Then do it again. The discussion continues to flame even after this post are infracted. Then theres a guy that comes once in a while with I GOT 8 INCHES!!!! and doesn't contribute.
That said:
For credibility reasons: Please don't post personnal "accomplishements" they don't contribute and make us doubt you more.
However, to whomever was dissing Toai(or whoever the girl here was). I think I sorta agree with her, I'll reread her posts bt they seem to make sense (Or maybe I have a girl's point of view on this).
EDIT: Fine, I'll get involved. First, I doubt either of you should consider yourself professionals.
Second: Teia being picked on by a few people here: You sound like the guys who pick on the girl they can never hope to get cause she is way above them or from the internet. Third, Teia seems to know her ☺☺☺☺, listen to her.
A wild WK appears...
to your second, if you really think I'm picking on her you're wrong, I am simply calling her wrong, and do you really think I'm "picking on her" because I can't get a girl like her, really bro, learn to insult better, if I wanted a nerd girl I would find the nearest anime club and ask any random girl in it out, did you really just say I'm mean because I can never hope to get a girl like that, plentyoffish.com bro, or just don't be socially inept, basically I apparantly am mean to her because I (lol) "can never hope to get a girl like that" (lol), at least I'm not WKing random girls on an mtg forum (theres better places to WK bro).
To your third, no, she does not know her ☺☺☺☺, she said that men denied a random attractive women who asked for sex, that alone is just blatantly wrong.
TDLR; I hate white knights, they pollute the internet, she's not going to be the least little bit thankful for you for "saving her", neither did she even need to be "saved", guys aren't always mean to girls because of jealousy, sometimes they are just really annoyed by blatantly wrong statements of "Guys will say no to an attractive woman who asks for sex".
shorter TDLR- everything you said in you edit was wrong, stop WKing
My brain went a number of linguistic directions with this. My first thought was, like, Toei, then I got stuck on a Japanese kick and read it as "to ai," then did ai = love, then thought of To Love Ru, and it just got weird from there.
she said that men denied a random attractive women who asked for sex, that alone is just blatantly wrong.
I like how you apply your world view and the world view of your immediate peers to every man in the world.
My brain went a number of linguistic directions with this. My first thought was, like, Toei, then I got stuck on a Japanese kick and read it as "to ai," then did ai = love, then thought of To Love Ru, and it just got weird from there.
I like how you apply your world view and the world view of your immediate peers to every man in the world.
I respect you a little more after the first paragraph, actually a lot more oddly enough, one of the biggest reasons I didn't like you is I hate the steriotypical inuyasha fangirl, after that paragraph I can see you are not one, and ya, to love ru is kinda out there, sequel just ended. /otakuoff
However I still disagree about the second part, most men will have sex with a hot women on the spot unless committed or gay, you apparantly know a lot of committed guys or they're lying (guys do that to impress girls who knew)
But I'll apologize for the hate in my first post directed at you, if you've seen more than just dubbed anime you're ok in my book, even if your views on what men want is misguided.
I like how you apply your world view and the world view of your immediate peers to every man in the world.
It's not only his, and you're a fool if you think MOST guys wouldn't accept an invitation of sex from an attractive woman. Not all, and of course there are extra circumstances, such as if the guy says "Only if we use a condom" etc.
However I still disagree about the second part, most men will have sex with a hot women on the spot unless committed or gay, you apparantly know a lot of committed guys or they're lying (guys do that to impress girls who knew)
Stuff like this makes me wonder if others think im gay. Even when I was single I wouldn't do something like that.
Stuff like this makes me wonder if others think im gay. Even when I was single I wouldn't do something like that.
Maybe you're bi, cuz I wouldn't either. A person being hot is only one component of my interest, even for a random ☺☺☺☺. It counts for a lot, but I'd give a fair bit of slack on looks if they have chemistry with me (a very underrated part of great sex, for what it's worth) and bring a good bit of innovative skill to the table (or bed, or couch, or floor, or washing machine - whatever).
If the most beautiful girl I'd ever seen came up to me and asked me to have sex, I'd turn her down with no regret if I felt for one second we didn't click or if she gave me the impression she had no clue what a perineum is. But I guess quality of a partner is in the eye of the beholder.
It's not only his, and you're a fool if you think MOST guys wouldn't accept an invitation of sex from an attractive woman. Not all, and of course there are extra circumstances, such as if the guy says "Only if we use a condom" etc.
I think you're confusing "MOST guys" with "immature guys." You'll find that a great deal of mature men wouldn't simply have sex on request with random attractive women. Saying otherwise is just your standard testosterone-fueled machismo, trying to strut around like a big man when there's really no need for it.
Yeah, let's just stick to our own personal convictions and completely disregard anything that could possibly run afoul of them!
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You can call bull☺☺☺☺ all day long, but I'm not giving you any personal information other than what's in my profile. as you said, it's the interenet, and for all you know I AM a 35 year old fat manchild living in his parents basement.
As for the actual topic... some people may not trust their friends to answer honestly or may wish to keep something like that private from their friends until it's resolved one way or another, to avoid peer pressure. I don't see anything wrong with it. Fortunately, I have serious friends, so I wouldn't have to turn to a forum for something like that. Each to his own.
In general, I do think that most men would have sex with a random beautiful girl.
However, this is the real world. There's numerous other factors you need to worry about. Is she on birth control and using it properly?. Are there S.T.D.'s involved? Will she stalk me afterward? What if I see her in this same place again? What if her pimp tries to kill me? ...and so on and so forth.
When you factor everything that could go wrong in, then I see how some men (possibly even > 50%) would turn down "random" sex.
Now here's the real question:
Imagine you're single, with normal libido, visiting a country where in general you find the native people appealing. You meet an extremely attractive person at a venue of your choosing, and this person asks if you want to go to a venue of your choosing for sex, paid in full if necessary. Upon request, the person presents you with a doctor's note stating that they are clear of all S.T.D's or anything else that could be transferred to you, and is sterile. (Don't question it). And through your Mind's Eye, you know the document is 100% real. They state that their name is "[insert extremely common name here] Smith" and don't want to know yours. You leave tomorrow morning and will never see this person again. You make sure to cast your Magic Aura that prevents anyone from picking up any of your belongings but you. (Don't question it).
Do you go with this person for sex?
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Now here's the real question:
Imagine you're single, with normal libido, visiting a country where in general you find the native people appealing. You meet an extremely attractive person at a venue of your choosing, and this person asks if you want to go to a venue of your choosing for sex, paid in full if necessary. Upon request, the person presents you with a doctor's note stating that they are clear of all S.T.D's or anything else that could be transferred to you, and is sterile. (Don't question it). And through your Mind's Eye, you know the document is 100% real. They state that their name is "[insert extremely common name here] Smith" and don't want to know yours. You leave tomorrow morning and will never see this person again. You make sure to cast your Magic Aura that prevents anyone from picking up any of your belongings but you. (Don't question it).
Do you go with this person for sex?
...In this case no... it's just too perfect to be true and i'd feel too paranoid to do it lol.
if it wasn't THAT perfect a situation i'd definitely do it.
(Hannah if you read this I AM JUST KIDDING!)
In general, I do think that most men would have sex with a random beautiful girl.
However, this is the real world. There's numerous other factors you need to worry about. Is she on birth control and using it properly?. Are there S.T.D.'s involved? Will she stalk me afterward? What if I see her in this same place again? What if her pimp tries to kill me? ...and so on and so forth.
When you factor everything that could go wrong in, then I see how some men (possibly even > 50%) would turn down "random" sex.
Now here's the real question:
Imagine you're single, with normal libido, visiting a country where in general you find the native people appealing. You meet an extremely attractive person at a venue of your choosing, and this person asks if you want to go to a venue of your choosing for sex, paid in full if necessary. Upon request, the person presents you with a doctor's note stating that they are clear of all S.T.D's or anything else that could be transferred to you, and is sterile. (Don't question it). And through your Mind's Eye, you know the document is 100% real. They state that their name is "[insert extremely common name here] Smith" and don't want to know yours. You leave tomorrow morning and will never see this person again. You make sure to cast your Magic Aura that prevents anyone from picking up any of your belongings but you. (Don't question it).
Do you go with this person for sex?
I wouldn't.
"But I hardly know you miss!"
Basically, I know what my attractive points are, and they're things that someone who knows me for a some length of time will know. If I just met such a person, likely they won't be wanting to get into my pants for those points, but rather, something else. Maybe they're attracted by my looks, but that would mean that girl is into some freaky s* right there. I'd probably fantasize about it in the future, but at the present I will most definitely turn down such a proposition. Maybe if we dated a few more times, but that's beyond the scope of the scenario.
That and I'm shy.
As for the topic:
People seek help in forums because it is a form of anonymity. Even if you are revealing some sort of shameful event, people on the internet generally won't know who you are, and so even if they become judgemental it isn't so big of a problem.
As for why they are asking specifically in a forum with, uh, nerds and geeks, why not? 1) Just because someone plays magic, doesn't mean that their social skills are atrophied, even if there is some correlation. 2) Even for those who are socially inept, there are happy endings. Even some nerds get the girl, and in those cases their advice is far more valuable than a suave non-MtG player's. A large percentage of the magic players that I know are married with children.
No, it is a stupid thing to assume. I could have a billion times over probally have slept with any of the hot ☺☺☺☺s in my home town when they were drunk off their asses but I didn't want to and its not how I viewed sex.
I have zero attraction to men in anyway. There are normal dudes who want just a normal relationship.
Not every guy is like the ones on the jersey shore people.
No, it is a stupid thing to assume. I could have a billion times over probally have slept with any of the hot ☺☺☺☺s in my home town when they were drunk off their asses but I didn't want to and its not how I viewed sex.
I have zero attraction to men in anyway. There are normal dudes who want just a normal relationship.
Not every guy is like the ones on the jersey shore people.
You obviously have never fealt the joys of fist pumping...
No, it is a stupid thing to assume. I could have a billion times over probally have slept with any of the hot ☺☺☺☺s in my home town when they were drunk off their asses but I didn't want to and its not how I viewed sex.
I have zero attraction to men in anyway. There are normal dudes who want just a normal relationship.
Not every guy is like the ones on the jersey shore people.
Don't even try that with me, I'm FROM new jersey and I can tell you RIGHT off that the guido infestation is limited to high traffic areas.
"There are normal dudes who just want a normal relationship."
Agreed. But more guys in the world wouldn't turn down sex with a hot girl.
Notice how I said more and not all?
All the idiots on this forum think I'm dealing in absolutes, in most of my posts there are DISCLAIMERS that state that I'm NOT.
That said:
For credibility reasons: Please don't post personnal "accomplishements" they don't contribute and make us doubt you more.
However, to whomever was dissing Toai(or whoever the girl here was). I think I sorta agree with her, I'll reread her posts bt they seem to make sense (Or maybe I have a girl's point of view on this).
EDIT: Fine, I'll get involved. First, I doubt either of you should consider yourself professionals.
Second: Teia being picked on by a few people here: You sound like the guys who pick on the girl they can never hope to get cause she is way above them or from the internet. Third, Teia seems to know her ☺☺☺☺, listen to her.
What do you consider professional?
You can call bull☺☺☺☺ all day long, but I'm not giving you any personal information other than what's in my profile. as you said, it's the interenet, and for all you know I AM a 35 year old fat manchild living in his parents basement.
Actually...
Does anyone from timewarp in cedar grove NJ use these forums? Pretty much anyone in the store can back me up lol.
I'd wager that most people in monogamous relationships either had prior monogamous relationships or will have different monogamous relationships in the future. Some people marry their childhood sweetheart and live happily ever after. Good on them. That's not the case for everyone. Most people go through several relationships prior to getting married.
About 50 percent of first marriages for men under age 45 may end in divorce, and between 44 and 52 percent of women’s first marriages may end in divorce for these age groups. - A census report of divorce rates in 1996 published in 2002; the quote is from page 18.
Note this report reflects a time prior to the era of myspace, facebook, text messaging, and the hookup-culture that exists in the US today. Also, there's no guarantee that the 50% of marriages that are stable are necessarily happy ones. People will stay together for financial reasons, for the sake of the children, or due to the fear of loneliness overpowering the misery of being in an unhappy marriage.
My original point earlier is that guys have problems when they stake too much emotionally on any one particular girl/woman. Date different girls/women. If you still want monogamy, try settling down with the one that suits you best after having had some dating experience. I believe marrying your first girlfriend without getting to know other women is probably a mistake for most people.
I'm aware. I was just clarifying in case you were wondering, but in hindsight it doesn't really matter either way.
A wild WK appears...
to your second, if you really think I'm picking on her you're wrong, I am simply calling her wrong, and do you really think I'm "picking on her" because I can't get a girl like her, really bro, learn to insult better, if I wanted a nerd girl I would find the nearest anime club and ask any random girl in it out, did you really just say I'm mean because I can never hope to get a girl like that, plentyoffish.com bro, or just don't be socially inept, basically I apparantly am mean to her because I (lol) "can never hope to get a girl like that" (lol), at least I'm not WKing random girls on an mtg forum (theres better places to WK bro).
To your third, no, she does not know her ☺☺☺☺, she said that men denied a random attractive women who asked for sex, that alone is just blatantly wrong.
TDLR; I hate white knights, they pollute the internet, she's not going to be the least little bit thankful for you for "saving her", neither did she even need to be "saved", guys aren't always mean to girls because of jealousy, sometimes they are just really annoyed by blatantly wrong statements of "Guys will say no to an attractive woman who asks for sex".
shorter TDLR- everything you said in you edit was wrong, stop WKing
My brain went a number of linguistic directions with this. My first thought was, like, Toei, then I got stuck on a Japanese kick and read it as "to ai," then did ai = love, then thought of To Love Ru, and it just got weird from there.
I like how you apply your world view and the world view of your immediate peers to every man in the world.
I respect you a little more after the first paragraph, actually a lot more oddly enough, one of the biggest reasons I didn't like you is I hate the steriotypical inuyasha fangirl, after that paragraph I can see you are not one, and ya, to love ru is kinda out there, sequel just ended. /otakuoff
However I still disagree about the second part, most men will have sex with a hot women on the spot unless committed or gay, you apparantly know a lot of committed guys or they're lying (guys do that to impress girls who knew)
But I'll apologize for the hate in my first post directed at you, if you've seen more than just dubbed anime you're ok in my book, even if your views on what men want is misguided.
I'm also willing to chalk up the differences between guys I know and guys you know to regional culture. And since I missed it the fist time:
I don't really see it as "saving" but it's not like I'm ungrateful for someone standing up for me or anything.
It's not only his, and you're a fool if you think MOST guys wouldn't accept an invitation of sex from an attractive woman. Not all, and of course there are extra circumstances, such as if the guy says "Only if we use a condom" etc.
Stuff like this makes me wonder if others think im gay. Even when I was single I wouldn't do something like that.
Maybe you're bi, cuz I wouldn't either. A person being hot is only one component of my interest, even for a random ☺☺☺☺. It counts for a lot, but I'd give a fair bit of slack on looks if they have chemistry with me (a very underrated part of great sex, for what it's worth) and bring a good bit of innovative skill to the table (or bed, or couch, or floor, or washing machine - whatever).
If the most beautiful girl I'd ever seen came up to me and asked me to have sex, I'd turn her down with no regret if I felt for one second we didn't click or if she gave me the impression she had no clue what a perineum is. But I guess quality of a partner is in the eye of the beholder.
Archatmos
Excellion
Fracture: Israfiel (WBR), Wujal (URG), Valedon (GUB), Amduat (BGW), Paladris (RWU)
Collision (Set Two of the Fracture Block)
Quest for the Forsaken (Set Two of the Excellion Block)
Katingal: Plane of Chains
I think you're confusing "MOST guys" with "immature guys." You'll find that a great deal of mature men wouldn't simply have sex on request with random attractive women. Saying otherwise is just your standard testosterone-fueled machismo, trying to strut around like a big man when there's really no need for it.
Edit: This totally made me think of this thread.
No I'm pretty sure you're just wrong.
Libido has very little to do with sexual orientation.
Yeah, let's just stick to our own personal convictions and completely disregard anything that could possibly run afoul of them!
As for the actual topic... some people may not trust their friends to answer honestly or may wish to keep something like that private from their friends until it's resolved one way or another, to avoid peer pressure. I don't see anything wrong with it. Fortunately, I have serious friends, so I wouldn't have to turn to a forum for something like that. Each to his own.
However, this is the real world. There's numerous other factors you need to worry about. Is she on birth control and using it properly?. Are there S.T.D.'s involved? Will she stalk me afterward? What if I see her in this same place again? What if her pimp tries to kill me? ...and so on and so forth.
When you factor everything that could go wrong in, then I see how some men (possibly even > 50%) would turn down "random" sex.
Now here's the real question:
Imagine you're single, with normal libido, visiting a country where in general you find the native people appealing. You meet an extremely attractive person at a venue of your choosing, and this person asks if you want to go to a venue of your choosing for sex, paid in full if necessary. Upon request, the person presents you with a doctor's note stating that they are clear of all S.T.D's or anything else that could be transferred to you, and is sterile. (Don't question it). And through your Mind's Eye, you know the document is 100% real. They state that their name is "[insert extremely common name here] Smith" and don't want to know yours. You leave tomorrow morning and will never see this person again. You make sure to cast your Magic Aura that prevents anyone from picking up any of your belongings but you. (Don't question it).
Do you go with this person for sex?
...In this case no... it's just too perfect to be true and i'd feel too paranoid to do it lol.
if it wasn't THAT perfect a situation i'd definitely do it.
(Hannah if you read this I AM JUST KIDDING!)
Pretty much. An absolutely risk- and downside-free scenario? I'd be all over that. But in a similar situation in the real world? Hell no.
I wouldn't.
"But I hardly know you miss!"
Basically, I know what my attractive points are, and they're things that someone who knows me for a some length of time will know. If I just met such a person, likely they won't be wanting to get into my pants for those points, but rather, something else. Maybe they're attracted by my looks, but that would mean that girl is into some freaky s* right there. I'd probably fantasize about it in the future, but at the present I will most definitely turn down such a proposition. Maybe if we dated a few more times, but that's beyond the scope of the scenario.
That and I'm shy.
As for the topic:
People seek help in forums because it is a form of anonymity. Even if you are revealing some sort of shameful event, people on the internet generally won't know who you are, and so even if they become judgemental it isn't so big of a problem.
As for why they are asking specifically in a forum with, uh, nerds and geeks, why not? 1) Just because someone plays magic, doesn't mean that their social skills are atrophied, even if there is some correlation. 2) Even for those who are socially inept, there are happy endings. Even some nerds get the girl, and in those cases their advice is far more valuable than a suave non-MtG player's. A large percentage of the magic players that I know are married with children.
"Sometimes, the situation is outracing a threat, sometimes it's ignoring it, and sometimes it involves sideboarding in 4x Hope//Pray." --Doug Linn
EPIC
Anyways, in that situation, with normal libido? I think I'd say no.
I know if I were as horny as ☺☺☺☺ then maybe yea ;P
No, it is a stupid thing to assume. I could have a billion times over probally have slept with any of the hot ☺☺☺☺s in my home town when they were drunk off their asses but I didn't want to and its not how I viewed sex.
I have zero attraction to men in anyway. There are normal dudes who want just a normal relationship.
Not every guy is like the ones on the jersey shore people.
You obviously have never fealt the joys of fist pumping...
Don't even try that with me, I'm FROM new jersey and I can tell you RIGHT off that the guido infestation is limited to high traffic areas.
"There are normal dudes who just want a normal relationship."
Agreed. But more guys in the world wouldn't turn down sex with a hot girl.
Notice how I said more and not all?
All the idiots on this forum think I'm dealing in absolutes, in most of my posts there are DISCLAIMERS that state that I'm NOT.
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Based on what?
Archatmos
Excellion
Fracture: Israfiel (WBR), Wujal (URG), Valedon (GUB), Amduat (BGW), Paladris (RWU)
Collision (Set Two of the Fracture Block)
Quest for the Forsaken (Set Two of the Excellion Block)
Katingal: Plane of Chains
Honestly this doesn't even deserve a response.
Hmm. Let's do a giant poll of this somewhere.