I don't mean to fight anyone elses battles, but is it really considered vein to want everyone to have basic levels of hygiene before going out in public? I may not wear a suit and tie to a casual gathering, but I certainly want to take a shower and apply some deodorant at the least.
Well in this thread we were not talking about basic hygiene, we were talking about putting 10+ hours a week into exercise to be 'above a 6' in the looks department.
I'm pretty sure Linvala was saying that there should be an equal amount of taking care of ourselves from both sexes. But I'll let him elaborate on that, like I said I shouldn't be speaking for someone else.
However now that you mention it, is 10+ hours a week of exercise a bad thing in this day and age? I may not indulge in it, but I see nothing wrong with proper exercise. Maybe I'm old fashioned? lol.
I'm pretty sure Linvala was saying that there should be an equal amount of taking care of ourselves from both sexes.
that is litterally exactly what I've been saying, I'm not saying "girls need to spend an hr a day on makeup/clothes and another hour on gym, and guys can do whatever they want", I simply think people should all try to at least look decent.
And my original point about gamer girls is that most of them don't even put in the bare minimum and that is why guys avoid them, most guys actually think a girl being better than them at video gampes is a plus not minus, just the horribly akward kids feel emasculated.
Aren't most relationships started because of physical attraction? You don't know anything about the person when you meet them so you have to be interested in them for their looks, right?
I SUPPOSE there are exceptions to all rules and you could just be wanting to get to know a person intellectually first..? IMO there has to be *SOME* physical attraction there.
Meh its mostly true. After all we have a subconscious library of attributes we seek in others, i suppose that physical attraction is the first step, however its not the most important aspect of relationships. Having dated large and small waisted people i'd say that it doesn't affect much more than a first impression. Still i'd prefer that they are healthy regardless of weight, skinny people conically sick are just as bad as obese people. Healthy overall cuz i'd hate to love someone and have them die on me...
If you could get a good introduction before revealing yourself you could stand a better chance than if you left it to their subconscious prejudices if say you weren't the best looking person around... Even then this may not work because i hate being sold on who i should date...
I suppose even all the physiological and scientific evidence provided, why people choose partners really wouldn't help out here as to why the OP's dates are so costly, since his date doesn't assist financially... But at least its fun no?
And my original point about gamer girls is that most of them don't even put in the bare minimum and that is why guys avoid them
Well, take a look at the average gamer guy (you know, as far as negative stereotypes go, the fat neckbeard types that don't shower and wear the same shirt for a week without washing it). Do you think we'd want to put effort into impressing them?
Well, take a look at the average gamer guy (you know, as far as negative stereotypes go, the fat neckbeard types that don't shower and wear the same shirt for a week without washing it). Do you think we'd want to put effort into impressing them?
Teehee! You just described at least 50% of the people I'm in class with/go to the shop with. Hilarious. Some of them can't grow neckbeards, though.
And no.. you wouldn't want to put forth the effort, haha. I've seen girls look at them and they either cower or do that tongue thing and go "Blech!" Poor fellas.
On another note, my girlfriend and I share costs. We try to make things as even as possible because that's what we're comfortable with. We both end up pretty happy about it.
Well, take a look at the average gamer guy (you know, as far as negative stereotypes go, the fat neckbeard types that don't shower and wear the same shirt for a week without washing it). Do you think we'd want to put effort into impressing them?
I will give you that some gamer guys are like that, but of the 50-100 various people I've played at my LGS under 10 fit the bill, the guy you described is also the same guy who gets emasculated when losing to a girl.
TDLR; I've found the guy stereotype is much looser just because more guys play games.
I will give you that some gamer guys are like that, but of the 50-100 various people I've played at my LGS under 10 fit the bill
Your store's a lot better than mine, then. Pretty much the only guy at my LGS that I'd ever want to spend non-tournament time with is my brother. The rest are pretty much universally guys I'd never want to interact with.
A warning sign of what? She's even saying she feels bad. Think you're making a mountain out of a molehill on this.
It's a warning sign that's she going to be materialist/high maintenance, because despite the fact that she *says* she feels bad after the fact, she has yet to ever offer to pay for anything so far. In my admittedly limited experience, I find that the other party will at least make an offer to pay at some point. Saying you feeling bad is one thing, doing something about it is another. That, combined with the gift name-dropping were the main concerns I had.
I'm also friends with her ex, and he mentioned that she didn't really pay for anything at all during their (short) relationship, so that cemented my suspicions.
Anyway, as I said, it's nothing worth a fight or break-up yet, just something I'll have to watch for down the road as things progress.
It's a warning sign that's she going to be materialist/high maintenance, because despite the fact that she *says* she feels bad after the fact, she has yet to ever offer to pay for anything so far. In my admittedly limited experience, I find that the other party will at least make an offer to pay at some point. Saying you feeling bad is one thing, doing something about it is another. That, combined with the gift name-dropping were the main concerns I had.
If you want to find out her true intentions just cut back on the spending.
Don't go to such fancy places. Start doing less money spending and don't give out lavish gifts. see what happens then.
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Your store's a lot better than mine, then. Pretty much the only guy at my LGS that I'd ever want to spend non-tournament time with is my brother. The rest are pretty much universally guys I'd never want to interact with.
That's a funny thing to say since a large part of the reason I go to tournaments is to interact with the people there. Are you sure you even enjoy playing Magic with these guys?
Sure I do. I just wouldn't want to hang out with them.
yet you're willing to drop 6 to 8 hours of your life being around them every Friday in a kind of enclosed setting depending on the size of your LGS. i.e., hanging out with them. you also play the game with this said group of people for the same time, and unless you're an utter ass to them every single round I would figure that would count as 'hanging out.'
Take your monoblack deck, then set aside 14 swamps. Add 4 Creeping Tar Pits, 4 Darkslick Shores, 4 Drowned Catacombs, and 2 Jwar isle Refuge and add 4 Jace, the Mindsculptors. Your monoblack deck is instantly better. Better yet, drop those refuges, throw in some islands and some mana leaks, and lo and behold, you're now playing a real deck. Congratulations. Welcome to the world of competitive M:TG.
Because for the duration of the round, both our attentions are focused on the game. It's kind of like a pickup group in an MMO—the people I'm playing with aren't necessarily anyone I'd particularly like, but I'm totally willing to play the game with them.
You're a gentleman not a doormat and from the sounds of her and I mean no offense but she sounds like she's using you. If she isn't willing to pay on the next date I think you two should have a serious talk.
You're a gentleman not a doormat and from the sounds of her and I mean no offense but she sounds like she's using you. If she isn't willing to pay on the next date I think you two should have a serious talk.
I have to agree. It really sounds like she is in it for the money.
On another note, I rarely go out on date with my boyfriend. We hang out at my place or his, play some EDH and/or video games, fool around on the couch, then proceed upstairs to the bedroom to, um, sleep.
is this a marketing ploy? u giving us a sob story so u can sell more dual lands? :> haha
but seriously, i hate non-paying women. i've been with a fair few. these are some suggestions i have:
1. i know u already mentioned it, but pretend to be broke...all the time. stay indoors instead of going out. let her ask the question "wanna watch a movie/dinner?" which will give u an opening to respond "sorry babe, but i'm broke as hell these days'.
2. confront her. i did this once. i went straight up to my gf at the time and said "i know u use to have a rich bf who paid for everything. but i'm not rich. i'm happy to pay for most things, but i need you to help me out every now and then."
3. dump her.
4. ask to borrow money off her (semi sarcastic, but not really). but u've actually gotta pay back. by paying her back you're telling her that u have integrity. but the fact that you have to ask for money tells her that ur abit tight these days.
However now that you mention it, is 10+ hours a week of exercise a bad thing in this day and age? I may not indulge in it, but I see nothing wrong with proper exercise. Maybe I'm old fashioned? lol.
Now I'm curious. Why, exactly?
that is litterally exactly what I've been saying, I'm not saying "girls need to spend an hr a day on makeup/clothes and another hour on gym, and guys can do whatever they want", I simply think people should all try to at least look decent.
And my original point about gamer girls is that most of them don't even put in the bare minimum and that is why guys avoid them, most guys actually think a girl being better than them at video gampes is a plus not minus, just the horribly akward kids feel emasculated.
Meh its mostly true. After all we have a subconscious library of attributes we seek in others, i suppose that physical attraction is the first step, however its not the most important aspect of relationships. Having dated large and small waisted people i'd say that it doesn't affect much more than a first impression. Still i'd prefer that they are healthy regardless of weight, skinny people conically sick are just as bad as obese people. Healthy overall cuz i'd hate to love someone and have them die on me...
If you could get a good introduction before revealing yourself you could stand a better chance than if you left it to their subconscious prejudices if say you weren't the best looking person around... Even then this may not work because i hate being sold on who i should date...
I suppose even all the physiological and scientific evidence provided, why people choose partners really wouldn't help out here as to why the OP's dates are so costly, since his date doesn't assist financially... But at least its fun no?
Well, take a look at the average gamer guy (you know, as far as negative stereotypes go, the fat neckbeard types that don't shower and wear the same shirt for a week without washing it). Do you think we'd want to put effort into impressing them?
Teehee! You just described at least 50% of the people I'm in class with/go to the shop with. Hilarious. Some of them can't grow neckbeards, though.
And no.. you wouldn't want to put forth the effort, haha. I've seen girls look at them and they either cower or do that tongue thing and go "Blech!" Poor fellas.
On another note, my girlfriend and I share costs. We try to make things as even as possible because that's what we're comfortable with. We both end up pretty happy about it.
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I will give you that some gamer guys are like that, but of the 50-100 various people I've played at my LGS under 10 fit the bill, the guy you described is also the same guy who gets emasculated when losing to a girl.
TDLR; I've found the guy stereotype is much looser just because more guys play games.
Your store's a lot better than mine, then. Pretty much the only guy at my LGS that I'd ever want to spend non-tournament time with is my brother. The rest are pretty much universally guys I'd never want to interact with.
It's a warning sign that's she going to be materialist/high maintenance, because despite the fact that she *says* she feels bad after the fact, she has yet to ever offer to pay for anything so far. In my admittedly limited experience, I find that the other party will at least make an offer to pay at some point. Saying you feeling bad is one thing, doing something about it is another. That, combined with the gift name-dropping were the main concerns I had.
I'm also friends with her ex, and he mentioned that she didn't really pay for anything at all during their (short) relationship, so that cemented my suspicions.
Anyway, as I said, it's nothing worth a fight or break-up yet, just something I'll have to watch for down the road as things progress.
And, oh man did this thread get derailed.
If you want to find out her true intentions just cut back on the spending.
Don't go to such fancy places. Start doing less money spending and don't give out lavish gifts. see what happens then.
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That's a funny thing to say since a large part of the reason I go to tournaments is to interact with the people there. Are you sure you even enjoy playing Magic with these guys?
Sure I do. I just wouldn't want to hang out with them.
yet you're willing to drop 6 to 8 hours of your life being around them every Friday in a kind of enclosed setting depending on the size of your LGS. i.e., hanging out with them. you also play the game with this said group of people for the same time, and unless you're an utter ass to them every single round I would figure that would count as 'hanging out.'
how does this even work?
I have to agree. It really sounds like she is in it for the money.
On another note, I rarely go out on date with my boyfriend. We hang out at my place or his, play some EDH and/or video games, fool around on the couch, then proceed upstairs to the bedroom to, um, sleep.
but seriously, i hate non-paying women. i've been with a fair few. these are some suggestions i have:
1. i know u already mentioned it, but pretend to be broke...all the time. stay indoors instead of going out. let her ask the question "wanna watch a movie/dinner?" which will give u an opening to respond "sorry babe, but i'm broke as hell these days'.
2. confront her. i did this once. i went straight up to my gf at the time and said "i know u use to have a rich bf who paid for everything. but i'm not rich. i'm happy to pay for most things, but i need you to help me out every now and then."
3. dump her.
4. ask to borrow money off her (semi sarcastic, but not really). but u've actually gotta pay back. by paying her back you're telling her that u have integrity. but the fact that you have to ask for money tells her that ur abit tight these days.
Thanks again for the advice! No real reason to keep this thread open!