I doubt she actually burned it, she probably just tossed it. If she did burn, it takes a special kind of mother to do that for her kid If she didn't burn it then that just makes her a liar. Which at that point, just make her a crappy human being. It just amazes me not matter how "enlightened" we become there are still sooooo many people trying to disprove it
I would say retaliate, but it wont do any good, so just let it pass. I'm also surprise your fiend isn't some screwed up religious fanatic. I sounds like she's one of those "religious when it suites me" people.
Whoever says they don't like bacon should have all their books burn!!!!
Why, golly gosh darn, them thar novels are just like them thar radios. They're spoilin' our children! all them thar 'lectronics makin' 'em sag thar pants to the ground and pretendan thar wizards! Just like the comic books! and novellas! and dramatic plays first formed in greecian theater!
I'm an ☺☺☺☺☺☺☺, but I would just patiently wait for an opportunity to burn one of her Bibles.
Anyway, no she did not have any right to burn your book. She is completely in the wrong, morally, lawfully, and civilize'ly.
The only perspective in which she could possibly be conceded in the right is that of the crazy zealot that thinks they have a God given mission to save everyone's soul through force or otherwise.
Which is double extra stupid because you can't change anyone's mind by stealing their ☺☺☺☺ and burning it. What did she expect you to say "My God you're right" and fall on your knees begging God for forgiveness? ☺☺☺☺ no.
She owes you a new book. She won't give it to you. She is ☺☺☺☺. Remember: that lady is ☺☺☺☺. Now a ☺☺☺☺ty additude, she is ☺☺☺☺. The steaming pile of poo that comes out of your ass when you go to the washroom. Do you talk to your ☺☺☺☺? No? Then don't talk to her. Do you stand around your ☺☺☺☺? Then don't stand around her. Do you flush your ☺☺☺☺ and never think about it again? Do that with her. Flush her out of your life. Remember you have a creepy friend that likes ☺☺☺☺. He's creepy for that reason and that reason alone, apart from that he's a nice guy. He doesn't force you to like his ☺☺☺☺ so he's ok. He know you don't like his ☺☺☺☺. He's ok. Your ☺☺☺☺ isn't. Don't talk to the ☺☺☺☺ anymore.
Before I start, I want to just list a few ground rules for this thread.
1. I am not here to question the Christian religion, or any other religion, for that matter. If you want to argue against religion, do it elsewhere.
2. I'm not looking for legal advice. I know that I am legally obligated to compensation. I'm looking for opinions.
3. Ignore your hatred for any and all books that are used in this scenario. "No, it doesn't matter, because it's a crappy book," is not acceptable. Personal bias toward the subject matter needs to be left at the door, please.
Now, here's the situation:
I have a friend whose mother is ridiculously Christian. We're talking 24/7 recitation of the Bible. Obviously, being this Christian, she abhors everything to do with Harry Potter. Recently, I was reading The Deathly Hallows for the.... fifth or sixth time (Don't laugh, I love Harry Potter :D). One day, I left my copy in my friend's car. So, I went over to his house the next day, and asked his mother if I could get into his car to grab my book.
She asked, "What book?" When I answered, she looked very angry and said, "Sorry, Chris, I burned it. You'll have to buy a new copy."
I was appalled. I didn't react right away, but I did manage to squeak out the words, "...Burned... it?"
She told me that I shouldn't read books like that, blah blah blah, Christians are jerks. At this point, I was pissed. I demanded that she buy me a new copy. She refused, and said that she had every right to burn the book, because that's what the Constitution protected. It was in her house, on her property, and it is against her religion.
I mentioned that it was, actually, in her son's car, which was NOT her property, to which she closed the door.
So, my questions are:
A. Do you think she had every right to burn my book?
B. Do you think that she is obligated to buy me a new book?
C. Do you like bacon?
Remember, I want your OPINION, not what the law says.
EDIT: By the way, I almost wouldn't care, except I'm sitting at the part RIGHT BEFORE Harry fights Voldemort. >:(
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Honestly, there is nothing you can do about it. The ***** burned your book. You read it plenty of times. Obviously she is in the wrong here, but that doesnt matter anymore.
Next time dont leave your books in his car. Or just dont take books out in public?
A. Do you think she had every right to burn my book? - No way. It was your property, and she had no right to destroy it.
B. Do you think that she is obligated to buy me a new book? - Absolutely. Or at least reimburse you for it so you can go out and purchase a new one. Clearly, she doesn't know how expensive those HP books are.
C. Do you like bacon? - Erm... I am a vegetarian (though before I became a vegetarian I did like bacon. How could anyone NOT like bacon?).
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But tell me: Does anyone else find it strange that he and his brothers are allowed to play games like COD4: MW2, Battlefield BC2, and Dragon Age, but she won't let them read a Harry Potter book?
The war games aren't surprising (I mean, everyone knows the United States army is God's personal military on Earth :rolleyes:) but Dragon Age? You mean the game in which foul beasts corrupt an Old God into becoming an Archdemon and you
go to bed a witch, possibly while cheating on your actual lover, to make a baby so that the Old God will be transferred into its body
This is ridiculous and absurd. And while it might be immature to do, I think the only correct response here is to get a Bible, and host a burning for it - of course you actually have to go out of your way for her to to see it, because that's the whole point.
I'm not for book burnings, by all means, but I definitely think that (in this situation) you could get away with it. To go a touch further, make sure that your friend brings his mother's Bible to your house and "accidentally" leaves it there. You can burn it or not, but you should tell her that you did. And see how she feels about that.
I feel sorry for you, I really do. Those books are amazing, and people need to realize it's fiction. Against your religion, or not, it's not real - and people don't intend it to be. Sigh.
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A. Do you think she had every right to burn my book?
B. Do you think that she is obligated to buy me a new book?
C. Do you like bacon?
A) Any person burning any book is an enemy to intelligence, culture and wisdom. Doesn't matter if it's Harry Potter, a bible, a Koran or Mein Kampf. If you feel so threatened by words, that you need to destroy knowledge (even if it is knowledge on what your 'enemies' are thinking) you are an utter disgusting being. Rights, however, do not exist.
B) It goes further than that. She must make sure additional copies are printed, and the author paid.
C) Who doesn't?
This is ridiculous and absurd. And while it might be immature to do, I think the only correct response here is to get a Bible, and host a burning for it - of course you actually have to go out of your way for her to to see it, because that's the whole point.
And so a circle begins, until there are no books left to burn.
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wait what, the American constitution keeps the sacred right for all American citizens to burn stuff? That's pretty hilarious...
On topic, burning other people's stuff is criminal damage, right? So... threaten legal action? she should obviously replace it, or at least give some compensation...
Burning a Bible is probably a bad idea... Two wrongs don't make a right and all that...
Christians, the kind that "take religion into their own hands", are ☺☺☺☺ing dumb and... well, IMO, should be eradicated.
So who wants to help me
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A. Do you think she had every right to burn my book?
B. Do you think that she is obligated to buy me a new book?
C. Do you like bacon?
a) No destroying knowelge is incomprehendable, That sort of thing is NEVER acceptable
b) unfortunatly no I don't think she is obligated to buy you a new book, you left your item on her property unattended She could have viewed it as a gift.
c) my views on baccon are my own and no one elses!
Burning a Bible is probably a bad idea... Two wrongs don't make a right and all that...
I disagree, I think burning a Bible in front of the mother would be VERY right. If somebody wants to act like a goddamn meathead and destroy some of my property, I am going to make them wish they hadn't. If that means uber-offensive shock tactics, so be it.
i'd be in but not jsut christians. I know atheists that are as bad and there are some bad apples everywhere/:
Oh definitely, I agree. But book-burning "I'm only doing what's best for your soul" Christians piss me right off. Even if there was just a mass-eradication of those, I don't think I'd complain at all. *
BUT, in the meantime, a simple bible burning might set this pretentious, twatty mother straight. For bonus points, steal one of her bibles, then incinerate it. I implore you, OP, to give it a try! It'd be fun!
* You people probably think I'm joking, but I'm actually not. I know it's not generally an accepted viewpoint, but the less dumb people in the world, the better IMO. But that might be a topic for another thread.
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I disagree, I think burning a Bible in front of the mother would be VERY right. If somebody wants to act like a goddamn meathead and destroy some of my property, I am going to make them wish they hadn't. If that means uber-offensive shock tactics, so be it.
Seriously? You think that, in order to show someone that they were doing something wrong, you should do the exact same thing, but in a deliberate (and arguably more inflammatory) way? What makes you think she wouldn't go "This man is evil, and it's all because of that Harry Potter, I should attempt to save people burn such heretical books with more enthusiasm!"
If someone destroys your stuff, you take legal action until said stuff is replaced. Hell, it could even be covered under an insurance policy. There's no need to descend to their level and escalate the situation.
* You people probably think I'm joking, but I'm actually not. I know it's not generally an accepted viewpoint, but the less dumb people in the world, the better IMO. But that might be a topic for another thread.
I totaly agree. I always say I would love for stupidity to be painful. I don't agree with burning a bible in front of her. Thats just asking her not to let your friend talk to you anymore. We need a way to let natural selection follow it's course. Let the idiots have their drugs/power tools and remove the labels. Soon no one will try to iron their clothes on their bodies and we won't need the dumb labels.
It's a win-win.
EDIT: This should ahve been made a public poll so we can see who voted yes. I don't care I'd just like to know if they were kidding or what their PoV is.
this thread makes me lol, just because i have a friend with a mother like this, she is too faithful and believes everything the religion and religious people say
its actually really funny if you think about it...she doesnt like harry potter either btw~
many years ago we wanted to play diablo(with my friend^^), i got the game into their house...well guess her reaction upon seeing the game cover
she is fun,we making possesing jokes all the time ;P
the house is also full of religious stuff ( that make me puke,she has a room FULL of pictures symbols and stuff, also the dining room is full,aswell as every other room) , but its fun playing my zombie deck with zombie jesus all around
this thread makes me lol, just because i have a friend with a mother like this, she is too faithful and believes everything the religion and religious people say
its actually really funny if you think about it...she doesnt like harry potter either btw~
many years ago we wanted to play diablo(with my friend^^), i got the game into their house...well guess her reaction upon seeing the game cover
she is fun,we making possesing jokes all the time ;P
the house is also full of religious stuff ( that make me puke,she has a room FULL of pictures symbols and stuff, also the dining room is full,aswell as every other room) , but its fun playing my zombie deck with zombie jesus all around
The funniest thing is how most modern christians are going exacly against the original teachings of jesus. Idolatry was a big no no.
These Christians are not out for Christ, but rather attention. The best way to spite her is to not burn a bible...but buy another harry potter book
burning the bible = she managed to provoke you into retaliation
buying a new copy = I don't give a flying f***
What's wrong with retaliation? "People" (I use this term very lightly) like this don't deserve the satisfaction of knowing you had to spend money on something they destroyed. They deserve to have their Holy Bible defiled.
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Well, you've still got about fourteen hours before you're infracted for noncompliance. Talk to whomever you want.
What's wrong with retaliation? "People" (I use this term very lightly) like this don't deserve the satisfaction of knowing you had to spend money on something they destroyed. They deserve to have their Holy Bible defiled.
Retaliation differs from person to person
Unless she truly is a religious nut than she would feel more offended if another harry potter book was bought, especially if her own son got it.
A religious nut would be offended by someone burning the bible, what the OP described is not really a religious nut. Clearly she allows COD and other violent games in the house but not a book. Pretty damn clear shes a hypocrite. Religious nuts are not hypocrites.
A. Do you think she had every right to burn my book? - Absolutely not. Not liking someone's property is not grounds to destroy it. Legally or morally.
B. Do you think that she is obligated to buy me a new book? - Obviously.
C. Do you like bacon? - Of course.
I would say retaliate, but it wont do any good, so just let it pass. I'm also surprise your fiend isn't some screwed up religious fanatic. I sounds like she's one of those "religious when it suites me" people.
Whoever says they don't like bacon should have all their books burn!!!!
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actually, is this the woman in question?
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Anyway, no she did not have any right to burn your book. She is completely in the wrong, morally, lawfully, and civilize'ly.
The only perspective in which she could possibly be conceded in the right is that of the crazy zealot that thinks they have a God given mission to save everyone's soul through force or otherwise.
Which is double extra stupid because you can't change anyone's mind by stealing their ☺☺☺☺ and burning it. What did she expect you to say "My God you're right" and fall on your knees begging God for forgiveness? ☺☺☺☺ no.
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And meh. It's alright when combined with something like an egg, or on a sandwich.
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Honestly, there is nothing you can do about it. The ***** burned your book. You read it plenty of times. Obviously she is in the wrong here, but that doesnt matter anymore.
Next time dont leave your books in his car. Or just dont take books out in public?
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B. Do you think that she is obligated to buy me a new book? - Absolutely. Or at least reimburse you for it so you can go out and purchase a new one. Clearly, she doesn't know how expensive those HP books are.
C. Do you like bacon? - Erm... I am a vegetarian (though before I became a vegetarian I did like bacon. How could anyone NOT like bacon?).
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What sort of doubt is there that she SHOULD have the right to burn your property?
If there is any on your part, maybe you should rethink this.
B. Do you think that she is obligated to buy me a new book?
By social mores, she really is. Or at least, feel really guilty for what she did. She doesn't sound like she feels guilty tho...
C. Do you like bacon?
Find me a meat-eater who doesn't and I'll find you a coward.
The war games aren't surprising (I mean, everyone knows the United States army is God's personal military on Earth :rolleyes:) but Dragon Age? You mean the game in which foul beasts corrupt an Old God into becoming an Archdemon and you
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I'm not for book burnings, by all means, but I definitely think that (in this situation) you could get away with it. To go a touch further, make sure that your friend brings his mother's Bible to your house and "accidentally" leaves it there. You can burn it or not, but you should tell her that you did. And see how she feels about that.
I feel sorry for you, I really do. Those books are amazing, and people need to realize it's fiction. Against your religion, or not, it's not real - and people don't intend it to be. Sigh.
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A) Any person burning any book is an enemy to intelligence, culture and wisdom. Doesn't matter if it's Harry Potter, a bible, a Koran or Mein Kampf. If you feel so threatened by words, that you need to destroy knowledge (even if it is knowledge on what your 'enemies' are thinking) you are an utter disgusting being. Rights, however, do not exist.
B) It goes further than that. She must make sure additional copies are printed, and the author paid.
C) Who doesn't?
And so a circle begins, until there are no books left to burn.
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On topic, burning other people's stuff is criminal damage, right? So... threaten legal action? she should obviously replace it, or at least give some compensation...
Burning a Bible is probably a bad idea... Two wrongs don't make a right and all that...
(Bacon is tasty)
So who wants to help me
B. Do you think that she is obligated to buy me a new book?
C. Do you like bacon?
a) No destroying knowelge is incomprehendable, That sort of thing is NEVER acceptable
b) unfortunatly no I don't think she is obligated to buy you a new book, you left your item on her property unattended She could have viewed it as a gift.
c) my views on baccon are my own and no one elses!
i'd be in but not jsut christians. I know atheists that are as bad and there are some bad apples everywhere/:
Thanks for the laugh!
I disagree, I think burning a Bible in front of the mother would be VERY right. If somebody wants to act like a goddamn meathead and destroy some of my property, I am going to make them wish they hadn't. If that means uber-offensive shock tactics, so be it.
Oh definitely, I agree. But book-burning "I'm only doing what's best for your soul" Christians piss me right off. Even if there was just a mass-eradication of those, I don't think I'd complain at all. *
BUT, in the meantime, a simple bible burning might set this pretentious, twatty mother straight. For bonus points, steal one of her bibles, then incinerate it. I implore you, OP, to give it a try! It'd be fun!
* You people probably think I'm joking, but I'm actually not. I know it's not generally an accepted viewpoint, but the less dumb people in the world, the better IMO. But that might be a topic for another thread.
Seriously? You think that, in order to show someone that they were doing something wrong, you should do the exact same thing, but in a deliberate (and arguably more inflammatory) way? What makes you think she wouldn't go "This man is evil, and it's all because of that Harry Potter, I should attempt to save people burn such heretical books with more enthusiasm!"
If someone destroys your stuff, you take legal action until said stuff is replaced. Hell, it could even be covered under an insurance policy. There's no need to descend to their level and escalate the situation.
I totaly agree. I always say I would love for stupidity to be painful. I don't agree with burning a bible in front of her. Thats just asking her not to let your friend talk to you anymore. We need a way to let natural selection follow it's course. Let the idiots have their drugs/power tools and remove the labels. Soon no one will try to iron their clothes on their bodies and we won't need the dumb labels.
It's a win-win.
EDIT: This should ahve been made a public poll so we can see who voted yes. I don't care I'd just like to know if they were kidding or what their PoV is.
its actually really funny if you think about it...she doesnt like harry potter either btw~
many years ago we wanted to play diablo(with my friend^^), i got the game into their house...well guess her reaction upon seeing the game cover
she is fun,we making possesing jokes all the time ;P
the house is also full of religious stuff ( that make me puke,she has a room FULL of pictures symbols and stuff, also the dining room is full,aswell as every other room) , but its fun playing my zombie deck with zombie jesus all around
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The funniest thing is how most modern christians are going exacly against the original teachings of jesus. Idolatry was a big no no.
burning the bible = she managed to provoke you into retaliation
buying a new copy = I don't give a flying f***
What's wrong with retaliation? "People" (I use this term very lightly) like this don't deserve the satisfaction of knowing you had to spend money on something they destroyed. They deserve to have their Holy Bible defiled.
Retaliation differs from person to person
Unless she truly is a religious nut than she would feel more offended if another harry potter book was bought, especially if her own son got it.
A religious nut would be offended by someone burning the bible, what the OP described is not really a religious nut. Clearly she allows COD and other violent games in the house but not a book. Pretty damn clear shes a hypocrite. Religious nuts are not hypocrites.
B. Do you think that she is obligated to buy me a new book? - Obviously.
C. Do you like bacon? - Of course.
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