The point isn't being NICE, per say. It's just that if you hand over everything to them they won't be interested, it's how girls work.
Yeah, you don't want to give them everything they want and let them walk all over you. However, I feel there's nothing wrong with being kind to the ladies in general.
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Hot Topic, cafes, local music shows, record stores, book stores, etc. If you're really that clueless on places to go to meet these types of girls, that just goes to show you how completely out of this kind of "clique" you are. If you can't even begin to think like them on your own, how do you think you could ever stand a chance with one?
The point isn't being NICE, per say. It's just that if you hand over everything to them they won't be interested, it's how girls work.
This is (sometimes) a true statement, but it's definitely not the whole truth. GIRLS work this way. WOMEN want you to engage them with honesty, presence, and thoughtfulness ... like an adult, in other words.
Much of this thread is discussion regarding high-school-age people having relationships with other high-school-age people, so talking about GIRLS is appropriate. But if you think that kind of behavior is going to fly when you're an adult, looking for another adult to make a partnership with, you're just not gonna get there.
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So, MTGS, I come to you with a predicament. I'm interested in getting to know/sleep with some goth/emo/scene girls, for whatever reason. Recently, I've been extremely attracted to them, and I can't for the life of me figure out where that stems from.
Deepseated underlying psychological trauma aside, I have a problem.
As your typical MTV high school jock alpha male douchebag, cheerleaders and volleyball girls are really the only clique of girls that i've had access to socializing with, so needless to say they make up the majority of the girls that i've dated in my life. (I had a 2 year stint with this sexy little goth girl awhile back, but that's over now and not coming back.)
And here's the problem. I have NO GOD DAMN IDEA as to where to start.
The reason I decided to post this on mtgs (besides desperation) is that on occasion, I have seen a fellow magic player with a decent looking alternative girl, to a much higher concentration than i would have "in the wild."
TL:DR, Halp guys, where do goth girls hang out?
Really? Its simple where it comes from: You want something different.
The whole goth thing has kind of died out in the first palce, so that makes it even harder, but how about frequenting metal concerts? There are easy ones to bed, but the proportion of "easy to bed" compared to the general population is much smaller. Much smaller.
And drop the whole "alpha male" thing. I had the same additude at your age, I was one of those buff good looking guys (still am). You start to feel stupid when you realize all that muscle you've biult and all that charm that gets you laid aint nothing compared to the kind of stuff guys like Bill Gates gets (even if it doesn't get him laid, hes got a legacy that will last longer than anything you ever done). I hope you're being sarcastic when you talk about it.
If it helps you get laid go for, but at least realize its BS.
Much of this thread is discussion regarding high-school-age people having relationships with other high-school-age people, so talking about GIRLS is appropriate. But if you think that kind of behavior is going to fly when you're an adult, looking for another adult to make a partnership with, you're just not gonna get there.
Wrong, that kind of behavior gets you buy until about the age of 30, then you should drop it.
I stopped posting on MTGS for reasons, but I have to say something about this.
This thread is more than offensive.
As an active part of my local goth community (played in several bands, helped people who organized parties, etc) I can say we're ****ing tired of "tourists" looking for getting laid with goth women. I know you guys find corsets sexy, go get a dumb blonde cheerleader and make her wear it. Stay away from people when you're part of a stereotype who never respected us and your only interest is sex. Its boring, tiring, to have to deal with people in our scenes because at some point it gets trendy or hip and people just wants the benefits but none of the stigma. I had to fight people in high school because I got my nails blackpainted and now the same people wants to have sex with my friends?
Seriously, if you can't find goth girls, thats good. That means they're doing it right.
Keep it that way.
Boo-hoo. If it makes you feel any better I have seen goth guys with cheerleaders. Jeeze. Insecure.
I'd just like to say that of all the cafe's i've been to (admittedly few, and few times) i haven't really seen a surplus of "alternative" girls, there.
Much of this thread is discussion regarding high-school-age people having relationships with other high-school-age people, so talking about GIRLS is appropriate. But if you think that kind of behavior is going to fly when you're an adult, looking for another adult to make a partnership with, you're just not gonna get there.
Wrong, that kind of behavior gets you buy until about the age of 30, then you should drop it.
For as long as you keep pursuing girls, you're a boy, not a man. Unfortunately that takes some people well past 30.
Rivaltuna, honestly, try going to geek-culture conventions (comics, manga, sci-fi, fantasy, role-playing, steampunk, whatever). It's really the only place to find "goths" in their natural habitat anymore. Goth culture got subsumed beneath comic-book nerd culture around the time that everyone found out that Neil Gaiman was a real writer.
On that note, just start walking around reading Gaiman's Sandman books. Even if you don't attract any cute girls with eyeliner, they're really good books.
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Have you tried plentyoffish dot com? I never have but many of my old army buddies are on there. They just type in the credentials they need and bam! The girls' profiles pop up and they choose to message them or not. Seems like the best option for you, especially cause it's free.
Not sure the general region you live in, but I'm sure you have better chances finding them than I do in 'barely-a-city' suburban North Carolina. And I've dated/had flings with a small number of goth/emo/scene/whateveryouwannacallthem girls around here. You'll find some eventually to meet and hook up with, it's not too difficult once you learn your local scene more.
So good luck with this; I hope to see a successful update here. I'm sure it'll be before I find the next one for me
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As a former goth guy, try not to refer to them as goth girls. They're people and don't like being labeled. Anyways farmers markets are actually a decent place to meet em, concerts too.
Farmers markets? Can you explain that one, it seems exceedingly random.
also, SUCCESS!!! managed a date with a goth girl who's 4 years older than me and is a massage therapist! unfortunately we met by accident at the boardwalk, and was only in town for a week before going back to virginia. still...
I'm in college right now, and I honestly haven't seen a goth anything since I got there. Maybe its because I don't live on campus, but school is the best place I can imagine finding them.
It doesn't matter. You will not see any on campus. Goths have done all they can to distance themselves from scene/emo culture, which seem the same to the casual observer, and many just dress like normal people. Only in all black.
There is alot of decent advice in this thread AND its rather amusing. As a woman I feel compelled to say a few things.
Firstly, many of the "goth/scene/emo" girls you see are exactly the same as the girls you've dated in the past. Seriously, the only difference is where the get their clothes. They still like the music that's on the radio and have no actual alternative lifestyle at all. I used to wear loads of black, complete with Tripp pants and bright jewelry, but I'm just a regular person. My ex-bf thought I was some sexed up dominatrix(this is the honest to god truth!) and that superficial perception hurt our relationship later on. Fun fact: the head Judge of Yu-Gi-Oh! is a goth. By day she manages a children's card game and by night she is the blackness and makes sweet clothes.
Also, throw away your expectations for now. Try to find a woman who fulfills some of your wants and needs in a lover or girlfriend in general before looking in a particular subculture. It takes work to find a winner!
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Yeah, you don't want to give them everything they want and let them walk all over you. However, I feel there's nothing wrong with being kind to the ladies in general.
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This is (sometimes) a true statement, but it's definitely not the whole truth. GIRLS work this way. WOMEN want you to engage them with honesty, presence, and thoughtfulness ... like an adult, in other words.
Much of this thread is discussion regarding high-school-age people having relationships with other high-school-age people, so talking about GIRLS is appropriate. But if you think that kind of behavior is going to fly when you're an adult, looking for another adult to make a partnership with, you're just not gonna get there.
Thanks to Gabgabdevo for the awesome sig image!
I'm always looking for foil Madcap Skills and Ghitu Fire-Eater, [trade thread link forthcoming]
The whole goth thing has kind of died out in the first palce, so that makes it even harder, but how about frequenting metal concerts? There are easy ones to bed, but the proportion of "easy to bed" compared to the general population is much smaller. Much smaller.
And drop the whole "alpha male" thing. I had the same additude at your age, I was one of those buff good looking guys (still am). You start to feel stupid when you realize all that muscle you've biult and all that charm that gets you laid aint nothing compared to the kind of stuff guys like Bill Gates gets (even if it doesn't get him laid, hes got a legacy that will last longer than anything you ever done). I hope you're being sarcastic when you talk about it.
If it helps you get laid go for, but at least realize its BS.
Wrong, that kind of behavior gets you buy until about the age of 30, then you should drop it.
Boo-hoo. If it makes you feel any better I have seen goth guys with cheerleaders. Jeeze. Insecure.
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For as long as you keep pursuing girls, you're a boy, not a man. Unfortunately that takes some people well past 30.
Rivaltuna, honestly, try going to geek-culture conventions (comics, manga, sci-fi, fantasy, role-playing, steampunk, whatever). It's really the only place to find "goths" in their natural habitat anymore. Goth culture got subsumed beneath comic-book nerd culture around the time that everyone found out that Neil Gaiman was a real writer.
On that note, just start walking around reading Gaiman's Sandman books. Even if you don't attract any cute girls with eyeliner, they're really good books.
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In this mission to find scene girls/goth girls, that's where I would start.
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So good luck with this; I hope to see a successful update here. I'm sure it'll be before I find the next one for me
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It doesn't matter. You will not see any on campus. Goths have done all they can to distance themselves from scene/emo culture, which seem the same to the casual observer, and many just dress like normal people. Only in all black.
There is alot of decent advice in this thread AND its rather amusing. As a woman I feel compelled to say a few things.
Firstly, many of the "goth/scene/emo" girls you see are exactly the same as the girls you've dated in the past. Seriously, the only difference is where the get their clothes. They still like the music that's on the radio and have no actual alternative lifestyle at all. I used to wear loads of black, complete with Tripp pants and bright jewelry, but I'm just a regular person. My ex-bf thought I was some sexed up dominatrix(this is the honest to god truth!) and that superficial perception hurt our relationship later on. Fun fact: the head Judge of Yu-Gi-Oh! is a goth. By day she manages a children's card game and by night she is the blackness and makes sweet clothes.
Also, throw away your expectations for now. Try to find a woman who fulfills some of your wants and needs in a lover or girlfriend in general before looking in a particular subculture. It takes work to find a winner!