They practice a strange, yet astounding and hypnotizing kind of sacred dance, called Dance of the Dervishes, or Turkey Spiritual Gyro Dance Techniques.
While they are spinning, they are in deep meditation, and according to their beliefs, in contact with God in their purest form, without any bond with the material world. It is said that they can whirl for hours.
All Sufi says they want to live in a world of peace. Sufi is said to be part of Islam religion. Would it be better for the world if all muslims were under sufi influence since birth?
Isn't that like asking if the world be a better place if we were all taught to be nonviolent? Unless you're getting into a 1984-esque debate the answer is an obvious yes.
All Sufi says they want to live in a world of peace. Sufi is said to be part of Islam religion. Would it be better for the world if all muslims were under sufi influence since birth?
I'm not given to the believe that Islam is not peaceful, simply that there are sects that are intolerant of others' beliefs and are therefore not peaceful. So, no. I don't think Sufi influence should be forced on people. They seem like decent enough guys, and anyone who can spin that long without falling over's got an interesting skill, but I'm not going to say they should be the only form of Islam. Or interpretation of Islam. Or community of Islam, I'm not really clear on what noun I should be using.
Truthfully, I think not! That's like saying all Christians should be Mormon or all people should be white or all Germans should have funny little facial hair that looks like a smudge. I shudder at the thought of all this. The world (and humans) are great because of their diversity.
I suspect that the Sufis, who say (if memory serves me) that, "All light is one light," are in the mold of mystics of virtually all religious traditions: the doctrines and dogmas of typical Islamic practice are not felt by them in an all-defining or confining sense; what is paramount is the intimate experience of God's presence. And that experience trumps manmade religious constructions or traditions that divide men and women, often bitterly, from one another.
I'd say that everyone would do better to be a little more mystical in their thinking, regardless of their religious upbringing or lack thereof. By that I mean less eager to judge by appearances, and more sensitive to the subtle connections between various events and phenomena... less dismayed at failure and less attached to success. In a word, the whole world would benefit greatly from lightening up a bit.
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All Sufi says they want to live in a world of peace. Sufi is said to be part of Islam religion. Would it be better for the world if all muslims were under sufi influence since birth?
Probably, but it's like asking if the world were a better place if all people were born under Christian influence or [insert X belief] influence.
GB Elves <-man I hate this deck, it has a 50/50 matchup against Tier 1/2 but loses to jank aggro most of the time. UB Faeries <-only reason it's good is because of all those people that's still playing 5CC. WB Tokens <-so boring, there's only 2 ways to play this deck. RB Blightning <-Autopilotting you to victory 0-2 drop.
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I suspect that the Sufis, who say (if memory serves me) that, "All light is one light," are in the mold of mystics of virtually all religious traditions: the doctrines and dogmas of typical Islamic practice are not felt by them in an all-defining or confining sense; what is paramount is the intimate experience of God's presence. And that experience trumps manmade religious constructions or traditions that divide men and women, often bitterly, from one another.
I'd say that everyone would do better to be a little more mystical in their thinking, regardless of their religious upbringing or lack thereof. By that I mean less eager to judge by appearances, and more sensitive to the subtle connections between various events and phenomena... less dismayed at failure and less attached to success. In a word, the whole world would benefit greatly from lightening up a bit.
Mysticism has some negative connotations, too, though. Mystics often reject the structures of reason, logic, and science as well as the theological niceties of their religious traditions, or otherwise withdraw from the "real world" into what might alternately be called self-contemplation or navel-gazing. I can't say much about Sufi belief and practice in particular, but I do know they're highly ascetic - and you can call me a Zoroastrian, but I'd contend that asceticism doesn't really do anyone any good.
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Mysticism has some negative connotations, too, though. Mystics often reject the structures of reason, logic, and science as well as the theological niceties of their religious traditions, or otherwise withdraw from the "real world" into what might alternately be called self-contemplation or navel-gazing.
Indeed... I did say a little more mystical. One of my favorite metaphysical principles is the Buddhist notion of the Middle Way, of avoiding all extremes. Extreme mystical tendencies that lead to self-absorbed solipsism are as bad as the reflexive (not necessarily irreligious) skepticism that leads to xenophobia. But I'd say that, on the whole, the world errs more in the latter direction than in the former.
I can't say much about Sufi belief and practice in particular, but I do know they're highly ascetic - and you can call me a Zoroastrian, but I'd contend that asceticism doesn't really do anyone any good.
I agree. Although, if I had to choose between ascetism and gluttonous over-indulgence, I think ascetism comes off as a bit less bad on the whole. Less damaging to the environment at least, and probably less likely to precipitate wars.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Cf-ZxDfZA - Dance of the Dervishes
They practice a strange, yet astounding and hypnotizing kind of sacred dance, called Dance of the Dervishes, or Turkey Spiritual Gyro Dance Techniques.
While they are spinning, they are in deep meditation, and according to their beliefs, in contact with God in their purest form, without any bond with the material world. It is said that they can whirl for hours.
All Sufi says they want to live in a world of peace. Sufi is said to be part of Islam religion. Would it be better for the world if all muslims were under sufi influence since birth?
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I'm not given to the believe that Islam is not peaceful, simply that there are sects that are intolerant of others' beliefs and are therefore not peaceful. So, no. I don't think Sufi influence should be forced on people. They seem like decent enough guys, and anyone who can spin that long without falling over's got an interesting skill, but I'm not going to say they should be the only form of Islam. Or interpretation of Islam. Or community of Islam, I'm not really clear on what noun I should be using.
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I'd say that everyone would do better to be a little more mystical in their thinking, regardless of their religious upbringing or lack thereof. By that I mean less eager to judge by appearances, and more sensitive to the subtle connections between various events and phenomena... less dismayed at failure and less attached to success. In a word, the whole world would benefit greatly from lightening up a bit.
Probably, but it's like asking if the world were a better place if all people were born under Christian influence or [insert X belief] influence.
GB Elves <-man I hate this deck, it has a 50/50 matchup against Tier 1/2 but loses to jank aggro most of the time.
UB Faeries <-only reason it's good is because of all those people that's still playing 5CC.
WB Tokens <-so boring, there's only 2 ways to play this deck.
RB Blightning <-Autopilotting you to
victory0-2 drop.???B Super Secret Tech <-dude, this thing is nuts! 90/10 against all matchups.
Mysticism has some negative connotations, too, though. Mystics often reject the structures of reason, logic, and science as well as the theological niceties of their religious traditions, or otherwise withdraw from the "real world" into what might alternately be called self-contemplation or navel-gazing. I can't say much about Sufi belief and practice in particular, but I do know they're highly ascetic - and you can call me a Zoroastrian, but I'd contend that asceticism doesn't really do anyone any good.
candidus inperti; si nil, his utere mecum.
Indeed... I did say a little more mystical. One of my favorite metaphysical principles is the Buddhist notion of the Middle Way, of avoiding all extremes. Extreme mystical tendencies that lead to self-absorbed solipsism are as bad as the reflexive (not necessarily irreligious) skepticism that leads to xenophobia. But I'd say that, on the whole, the world errs more in the latter direction than in the former.
I agree. Although, if I had to choose between ascetism and gluttonous over-indulgence, I think ascetism comes off as a bit less bad on the whole. Less damaging to the environment at least, and probably less likely to precipitate wars.