The following card costs N colorless mana to cast.
Paradox Myr (N)
Artifact Creature - Myr
Paradox Myr's power and toughness are each equal to its value in dollars on the secondary market, rounded up.
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Is it possible to find a value for N where this card is just barely playable?
If N=1, this card is broken, Even if it's a 2/2 or 3/3 for 1 it'll get played in every deck. It'll probably be a 20/20 for 1.
If N=10, this card is unplayable, except if there's some reanimator deck that is popular enough to drive the price of the card up. But it couldn't be a rogue deck, otherwise the card wouldn't be worth enough to bother reanimating.
Is N=3 or N=4 a fair cost for this card? Is it possible to cost this card fairly?
(To preempt the questions, yes, I know this card is unprintable, and yes I know that the foil is strictly better than the nonfoil. Let's just think about the nonfoil for now. If this discussion goes nowhere that's fine, I just figured it'd be something to talk about.)
Actually this is totally printable - this is a textbook silver-bordered card
(the following assumes this is printed as a not silver bordered card)
The issue is that, as cost will fluxuate, it will either become broken or unplayable over time: If N is even slightly too high initially, the value will drop until it is always a 0/0 because people don't want it and will continue not to buy it.
If it is under-costed, its value will continue to climb, creating more demand and further increasing the price. Power/toughness will increase exponentially until banned.
3 is probably the sweet spot, as 4 for a vanilla artifact creature that doesn't do anything on etb is not great, even if its a 5/5 or 6/6. Even then, at rare there would probably be enough supply to keep it below $5 so this would need to be mythic to have a shot at getting played. The key, though, is it has to enter the format selling at 5 or better because a 4/4 for 3 won't see widespread play and thus the spiral will begin.
Mox Dragon of the Lotus, a fake card printed in Duelist Magazine, put a cost of . That mana cost sounds about right.
Would you pay that cost for a creature with no haste, no evasion and no protection? It almost doesn't matter how big it is if it can be chumped all day long.
Keep in mind, everyone that Infinity Elemental has a CMC of 7. As such, a cost around 5-6 seems appropriate for this, though the exact cost depends on the setting. An un-set card can be expected to have low price (even though this is a card that heavily incentivizes owners to attempt "buy-outs" for power reasons) but a holiday promo based on rass commercialism could expect a price between $20-40 so how this card would be released is also a factor.
Keep in mind, everyone that Infinity Elemental has a CMC of 7. As such, a cost around 5-6 seems appropriate for this, though the exact cost depends on the setting. An un-set card can be expected to have low price (even though this is a card that heavily incentivizes owners to attempt "buy-outs" for power reasons) but a holiday promo based on rass commercialism could expect a price between $20-40 so how this card would be released is also a factor.
Oh boy, and the Judge promo would be like an 80/80 for 3
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Is it possible to find a value for N where this card is just barely playable?
If N=1, this card is broken, Even if it's a 2/2 or 3/3 for 1 it'll get played in every deck. It'll probably be a 20/20 for 1.
If N=10, this card is unplayable, except if there's some reanimator deck that is popular enough to drive the price of the card up. But it couldn't be a rogue deck, otherwise the card wouldn't be worth enough to bother reanimating.
Is N=3 or N=4 a fair cost for this card? Is it possible to cost this card fairly?
(To preempt the questions, yes, I know this card is unprintable, and yes I know that the foil is strictly better than the nonfoil. Let's just think about the nonfoil for now. If this discussion goes nowhere that's fine, I just figured it'd be something to talk about.)
(the following assumes this is printed as a not silver bordered card)
The issue is that, as cost will fluxuate, it will either become broken or unplayable over time: If N is even slightly too high initially, the value will drop until it is always a 0/0 because people don't want it and will continue not to buy it.
If it is under-costed, its value will continue to climb, creating more demand and further increasing the price. Power/toughness will increase exponentially until banned.
3 is probably the sweet spot, as 4 for a vanilla artifact creature that doesn't do anything on etb is not great, even if its a 5/5 or 6/6. Even then, at rare there would probably be enough supply to keep it below $5 so this would need to be mythic to have a shot at getting played. The key, though, is it has to enter the format selling at 5 or better because a 4/4 for 3 won't see widespread play and thus the spiral will begin.
Would you pay that cost for a creature with no haste, no evasion and no protection? It almost doesn't matter how big it is if it can be chumped all day long.
If this was printed in a silver border set, it could probably be costed at 1 or 2. Since those singles tend to be pretty worthless.
You could also realistically cost this and modify it so that its mana cost also scales with the market price of the card.
Oh boy, and the Judge promo would be like an 80/80 for 3