My husband and I can’t agree. If I play Torment of Scarabs to enchant him, but he has Dwarven Scorcher, can he activate Dwarven Scorcher’s ability (pay one fire mana, sacrifice DS to deal 1 damage to target player) to use both that ability AND satisfy the requirements of Torment of Scarabs?
I’m arguing that the point of Torment of Scarabs is to either force a payment of 3 life or to lose out on using a card (whether by discarding or removing from the battlefield), and that sacrificing Dwarven Sorcher to deal damage would not satisfy the enchantment, because sacrificing for the enchantment would mean he cannot use that ability. Would love for someone to weigh in.
For context, I’ve see the rule that one sacrifice cannot satisfy two different activated abilities, but he doesn’t think that rule applies here, since the enchantment isn’t an activated ability.
Torment of Scarabs has a triggered ability that triggers at the beginning of your husband's upkeep.
In response to this ability, he can choose to sacrifice Dwarven Scorcher, to activate it's ability to do some damage. But then the ability of Torment of Scarabs is still waiting to resolve. When it does resolve your husband will lose three (3) life unless they discard a card or sacrifice a nonland permanent. The Dwarf is long gone by this point, so can't be sacrificed to the Torment.
If your husband allows the Torment ability to resolve without sacrificing the Dwarf first, then we have to fully resolve the Torment ability before he can do anything else. As no player gets priority to activate any ability while a spell/ability is resolving. So can't sacrifice the Dwarf during the resolution of the Torment's ability.
Hopefully that helps explain things better.
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I’m arguing that the point of Torment of Scarabs is to either force a payment of 3 life or to lose out on using a card (whether by discarding or removing from the battlefield), and that sacrificing Dwarven Sorcher to deal damage would not satisfy the enchantment, because sacrificing for the enchantment would mean he cannot use that ability. Would love for someone to weigh in.
For context, I’ve see the rule that one sacrifice cannot satisfy two different activated abilities, but he doesn’t think that rule applies here, since the enchantment isn’t an activated ability.
Thanks!
Torment of Scarabs
Dwarven Scorcher
Torment of Scarabs has a triggered ability that triggers at the beginning of your husband's upkeep.
In response to this ability, he can choose to sacrifice Dwarven Scorcher, to activate it's ability to do some damage. But then the ability of Torment of Scarabs is still waiting to resolve. When it does resolve your husband will lose three (3) life unless they discard a card or sacrifice a nonland permanent. The Dwarf is long gone by this point, so can't be sacrificed to the Torment.
If your husband allows the Torment ability to resolve without sacrificing the Dwarf first, then we have to fully resolve the Torment ability before he can do anything else. As no player gets priority to activate any ability while a spell/ability is resolving. So can't sacrifice the Dwarf during the resolution of the Torment's ability.
Hopefully that helps explain things better.