I know these topics have been made before, but I haven't found any definitive answers on how people feel about double-sleeving competitive decks versus single sleeving with a durable product like Dragon Shield. Asking, since I'm getting back into Modern and I have re-discovered how annoying it is to try to competently shuffle a double sleeved deck without dropping cards and stuff. Thoughts? I have Legion art sleeves with KMC Hyper Matte outer sleeves for my Death & Taxes and Obliterator Devotion decks.
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One sleeve is generally enough if you just want to protect your cards. Oversleeves are necessary if you have nice, pretty art sleeves that you want to protect.
One sleeve is generally enough if you just want to protect your cards. Oversleeves are necessary if you have nice, pretty art sleeves that you want to protect.
That's not quite right.
There are three different sleeves (and something like 5 or 6 types but we'll skip that portion).
There is an inner sleeve that is a very close fit. They go by different names like inner sleeves, perfect fits, etc. These sleeves are not intended to be played by themselves as-is. Instead, they are intended to be left on the card (ideally) for the life of the card.
Then there is the deck sleeve. These are what people are talking about when they talk about brands like Ultra-Pro, Dragon Shield, BCW, etc. These are the ones with the opaque backs. The inner sleeves I mentioned above is intended to fit inside these sleeves.
I believe the above two is what the OP is asking about and is what the vast majority of people talk about when "double" sleeving.
What you're talking about is the outer sleeve to the deck sleeve. These are designed less with protecting the card inside (though they do) and more about protecting premium art deck sleeves. At this point, you're really triple sleeving.
Now that that is out of the way.
Double sleeving usually serves the role of protecting the card from scratches or spilled liquids. There is a side loading inner sleeve that does nothing for liquids. Then there is a sealed type which is awkward. And other types that are smoked, or have a border, etc. These all have varying degrees of protections.
To answer the OPs question.
All my playable decks are double sleeved in varying brands depending on the condition of the card(s) and/or the value. I even use the self sealing sleeves on decks my very young children play because... you know, little kids. I do not buy or use premium sleeves to justify triple sleeving but I don't begrudge players who do.
I only play with foils so I double sleeve everything. It helps keep my foils from bending in humid air. I use KMC Perfect fits with the card loaded from the bottom in KMC hyper matte black loaded from the top. It creates a nice seal on my cards. Also, once the extra air comes out they won't slip or slide or anything. They feel great. I also never unsleeve anything. I just but more sleeves. Always perfect for and always KMC hyper matte black. Then I never have to resleeve or desleeve, and making decks is super fast. I usually play a new deck every week, though, so speed is important to me.
Ooooooooh I feel dumb. I had no idea inner sleeves were a thing. All this time I've been using standard deck sleeves and outer sleeves when I double sleeve.
I guess also what I was asking was if people consider a regular, premium sleeve such as Dragon Shields to be adequate protection? Of should I always do regular sleeve plus outer? I have a lot of art sleeves on my decks so I do use a lot of outer sleeves to protect em.
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Ooooooooh I feel dumb. I had no idea inner sleeves were a thing. All this time I've been using standard deck sleeves and outer sleeves when I double sleeve.
I guess also what I was asking was if people consider a regular, premium sleeve such as Dragon Shields to be adequate protection? Of should I always do regular sleeve plus outer? I have a lot of art sleeves on my decks so I do use a lot of outer sleeves to protect em.
Oh so I did misunderstand your original post. I should feel dumb. The rest of my post still stands though.
I'm not a huge fan of deck + outer sleeve only. This is because most decks aren't really static. Cards get swapped out and moved around. Pulling a card into and out of a sleeve places wear on the card. An inner sleeve greatly helps to diminish this.
Many people will argue that they don't remove cards from sleeve because they purchase identical sleeves for all their Sure, but that stance actually doesn't hold water very well if we're talking about limited run art sleeves. When was the last time you saw an Ultra Pro Fantasy edition sleeve? Or what if you paid for MTGGoldFish custom sleeves? Not like they're always being made.
I'm not saying they can't do the job. They do. You just have to know their limitations and why they exist. Other than Ultra-Pro Pro-Fit* sleeves, I just have a preference for the inner sleeve method.
*I feel their Pro-Fit tolerances are too loose causing many fitted cards to stick out of the top of their own deck sleeves.
Perfect Fits, and then an outer sleeve, so Double Sleeved, for all my tier level decks/cards, pretty much anything I'm going to play that isnt a pre-con to mess around with my wife and son with.
I play semi competitively and double sleeve every single card I play or think has some kind of value in a deck. My primary choice has been going with the now fixed KMC hyper mat outer sleeves with the KMC perfect fits due to the ease at which one can double sleeve cards. For double sided cards like the transform cards from innistrad, I use KMC perfect fits and ultra pro clears.
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I use these:
Inner: Ultro Pro Mana Jon Avon art inner sleeve - 80 sleeves
Outer: KMC Hyper mat outer sleeve - 60 sleeves
I generally don't mind double sleeving because it protects the art on the inner sleeve but it is time consuming and the outersleeve can sometimes be too big for the inner sleeve. You also have to consider the quality of both inner and outer sleeves.
I think dragon shields matte sleeves(prone to splitting) / ultro pro's matte sleeves are pretty solid as well / and dex protection sleeves are pretty good. Then there are the KMC perfect fits and those are really good.
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All cards in the decks I use at our weekly modern FNM are always double sleeved. Even the cheap commons and tokens are double sleeved. I won't be caught dead with any FNM cards not double sleeved.
It helps protect from dust that get's under the sleeve.. also protects from accidental spills of drinks.
Single for any card under $5. Double for anything more expensive than that. Also, understand that prices fluctuate, so a $5 card today could be $1 or $10 card tomorrow. Best thing to do is look at multiple formats and see which cards are consistently played in each format for a long duration of time + how much the price of that card has shifted over months/years.
Especially white bordered old cards should be double sleeved to avoid them getting a stain of dirt (yellow or black) on the edges, which greatly reduces their condition and value.
Most standard decks are not expensive enough to warrant double sleeving, but with a bunch of foils its highly advisable to put foils in a perfect size inner sleeve to keep as much humidity away from them as possible to prevent them from bending / corrosion ; depending on the location that might be a much bigger issue anyway.
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Decks like modern with a lot of cards you might remove from sleeves and put them in other decks (mostly the lands) , its also highly advisable to use inner sleeves, as you otherwise move the card around often enough that it will get damaged (for that reason its also a good idea to use the very same sleeves so you can interchange cards between decks without changing the sleeves at all).
If sleeves cost you like 20$ bucks in total, they easily justify themselves if the cards in that deck are at least 10 times that value and easily way more than that.
Slightly bend cards are also easier to play with double sleeves, as they are put in form by the sleeves and dont bend as much.
That said, there are TERRIBLE inner sleeves, like the old Ultra Pro ones, which where slightly too small for a magic card and just "barely" fit in, which did already bend the card. The Perfect Fit sleeves from japanese producers are pretty much flawless since the beginning of time (and i put pretty much any card that has a reasonable value in them, which can easily save you a giant amount of time, in case of accidents like a bottle of water that falls over or rain that hits a folder).
Double.
Once I made the switch to double sleeving...I can't hardly imagine going back. Plus perfect fit inner sleeves have dropped in price over the last few years which is great. I use to pay almost $6 for a pack at my local, now I'm only paying half that.
Inner sleeves + regular sleeves are definitely worth it for any card you plan to keep for a long time or if you have any valuable/old cards. Even with regular sleeves, it's more than possible for moisture and dust to accrue, especially over a long period, so the best IMO are the sealable inner sleeves.
If you're building up a collection or handling expensive cards, MTG is "collectible" first, a game second, so I use latex gloves when transferring between sleeves to prevent oil from smudging on the sides and face of the cards which is further than most people go, but it's easy to notice a giant smudge once it happens.
Very casual (ie: Duel decks) got single-sleeve treatment, but anything else (cube, legacy, modern, standard, and especially commander) is double-sleeved for sure. Non-standard decks can easily get over $1000 even without foils. Why would anyone cheap out on perfect fit sleeves which only cost an extra $3-5 per deck and help maintain the value of those investments?
The way I see it, players who have money to spend on expensive cards to use in decks certainly have the money for sleeves, so neglecting to protect them is irrational and financially counterproductive if and when the cards get damaged without them.
If you're building up a collection or handling expensive cards, MTG is "collectible" first, a game second, so I use latex gloves when transferring between sleeves to prevent oil from smudging on the sides and face of the cards which is further than most people go, but it's easy to notice a giant smudge once it happens.
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Latex gloves are generally at the bottom of the totem pole of preferred "barriers" on paper handling. If one must use gloves on paper (it isn't always recommended but that's not here or there), then powder free nitrile gloves is a better choice. This is commonly the blue glove you see in doctor offices or in the food service industry, though I do have a box of "clear" ones that are very nice. Not surprisingly, the National Park Service has a very nice, condensed, PDF on the subject.
I double sleeve most of my finished decks (though sometimes, very inexpensive decks will get left single sleeved), and single sleeve otherweise. KMC Perfect Fits for the inner sleeve, Dragon Shield Matte for the outer.
I double sleeve all of the cards in my Legacy boxes and Cube except for tokens and emblems (I use KMC Perfect Fits, and slide those into Dragon Shields), and single sleeve for everything else (Commander, Casual, etc.). I use Dragon Shields for Commander and art sleeves for other stuff, but mostly Casual.
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Latex gloves are generally at the bottom of the totem pole of preferred "barriers" on paper handling. If one must use gloves on paper (it isn't always recommended but that's not here or there), then powder free nitrile gloves is a better choice. This is commonly the blue glove you see in doctor offices or in the food service industry, though I do have a box of "clear" ones that are very nice. Not surprisingly, the National Park Service has a very nice, condensed, PDF on the subject.
Whenever I buy any gloves I buy whatever says "powder free" on clear gloves or "latex free" so that's not really a concern of mine. I don't know why anyone would need the thick medical ones you're referring to just for handling cards.
Latex gloves are generally at the bottom of the totem pole of preferred "barriers" on paper handling. If one must use gloves on paper (it isn't always recommended but that's not here or there), then powder free nitrile gloves is a better choice. This is commonly the blue glove you see in doctor offices or in the food service industry, though I do have a box of "clear" ones that are very nice. Not surprisingly, the National Park Service has a very nice, condensed, PDF on the subject.
Whenever I buy any gloves I buy whatever says "powder free" on clear gloves or "latex free" so that's not really a concern of mine. I don't know why anyone would need the thick medical ones you're referring to just for handling cards.
I feel you didn't actually read the PDF file there. I referred to the blue medical gloves because that is what most people would be familiar with. If I thought people would be familiar with the archive gloves, I would have pointed them out.
Worrying about the thickness of a glove is a poor argument when the 3mil/4mil variety is easily found.
You stated earlier that you use latex gloves to handle your collection. No mention of "latex-free" otherwise I would have commented differently about it.
Ooooooooh I feel dumb. I had no idea inner sleeves were a thing. All this time I've been using standard deck sleeves and outer sleeves when I double sleeve.
I guess also what I was asking was if people consider a regular, premium sleeve such as Dragon Shields to be adequate protection? Of should I always do regular sleeve plus outer? I have a lot of art sleeves on my decks so I do use a lot of outer sleeves to protect em.
If you want to protect both the card and the art sleeve, then I'm afraid you actually need to triple sleeve. If I try to sum each type of sleeve:
Inner Sleeves / Perfect fits - The best at protecting the card condition itself since it absorbs all the minor abrasions a card can sustain even in a regular sleeve and/or dirt accumulation (of course logically nothing can protect from really bad rough shuffling unless you use toploaders but that's just stupid). But they're so flimsy (because as an extra internal protection it focuses on the precise fragile protections) so you can basically never use on its own.
Regular Sleeves - The "standard" protection, but because it was designed to handle regular shuffling, it cannot handle to precision protection inner sleeves do. So basically put, the two types of sleeves are basically two halves of a card full-protection suite.
Oversleeves / Outer Sleeves - Only necessary when you want to protect the regular sleeve and the main reason people want to protect them is because they have art on them and those sleeves are difficult to re-supply once the first (and usually only) run is no longer produced. Some people use it to prevent wear and tear on regular non-art sleeves, but I feel its silly because it's not like oversleeves are immune to wear and tear themselves, so the replacement procedure is at best delayed (to be fair outer sleeves are indeed slightly more durable) and since regular non-art sleeves are easily replaceable, it just makes the deck harder to shuffle for hardly any benefit.
I use the full-protection suite (inner+regular) for my Modern Deck (I only have one, but in theory if I ever built more the same applies) as well as for any of my collections, because I know they will be with me for the long-term.
I have not played Standard for the longest time (I single-sleeved back then, but that was Alara-Zendikar Standard and I didn't really give much thought on the layers of sleeving), but whether I single or double will depend on how long I intend to stay in the format (if its like FNM for a month for the promo its single, if it's for like a year or two double).
EDH (the main format I play) I actually only outer-double sleeve, but that's mainly because 1) I flavor all my decks and they demand art-sleeves to complete it and that in turn demands outer sleeves, 2) shuffling and modifying 100-card decks is already cloying with outer-double sleeves, the third (inner) sleeve will be unbearable... and I have 8 decks. 3) I do play in a relatively clean environment that doesn't involve F&B most of the time and do take other proper measures (like positioning) the very few times food/beverage involve themselves (and even in those occasions its not because the person consistently eats while playing, he or she just missed lunch/dinner and is catching up, so it's not present throughout the session either) - so I can afford to forgo the inner sleeves. 4) Last and most importantly, that also requires the acknowledgement and acceptance that the cards I play with are slightly more susceptible to the minor abrasions that inner sleeves protect from, but I consider cards I get for EDH to stay with me for a long time in a different way than those I solely collect in the sense minor abrasions are fine and perhaps even a tiny pride of them being played the same way very old-school damaged cards are "praised" for "at least it saw use in play", just without the severe damage level as those old-school cards that weren't sleeved at all.
I play exclusively EDH & Limited these day, but I've never gotten into using more than one sleeve per card. I have some moderately expensive cards in my EDH decks. I've never noticed any damage to cards from sleeved play.
i think every card thats worht more than the cost of an inner sleeve 0.03€? deserves that, so i have all my pool in ultrapro inner sleeves and dragon shield for the outter, for sure i play competitive mtg so all my decks runs profit and dragon shield for tournament use
its simply just for keep cards clean and new, i have played my snapcaster mages for 4 years of intense use and are still like the day i buy it just because double sleeve + playmat + becarefull playin and should be good
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That's not quite right.
There are three different sleeves (and something like 5 or 6 types but we'll skip that portion).
There is an inner sleeve that is a very close fit. They go by different names like inner sleeves, perfect fits, etc. These sleeves are not intended to be played by themselves as-is. Instead, they are intended to be left on the card (ideally) for the life of the card.
Then there is the deck sleeve. These are what people are talking about when they talk about brands like Ultra-Pro, Dragon Shield, BCW, etc. These are the ones with the opaque backs. The inner sleeves I mentioned above is intended to fit inside these sleeves.
I believe the above two is what the OP is asking about and is what the vast majority of people talk about when "double" sleeving.
What you're talking about is the outer sleeve to the deck sleeve. These are designed less with protecting the card inside (though they do) and more about protecting premium art deck sleeves. At this point, you're really triple sleeving.
Now that that is out of the way.
Double sleeving usually serves the role of protecting the card from scratches or spilled liquids. There is a side loading inner sleeve that does nothing for liquids. Then there is a sealed type which is awkward. And other types that are smoked, or have a border, etc. These all have varying degrees of protections.
To answer the OPs question.
All my playable decks are double sleeved in varying brands depending on the condition of the card(s) and/or the value. I even use the self sealing sleeves on decks my very young children play because... you know, little kids. I do not buy or use premium sleeves to justify triple sleeving but I don't begrudge players who do.
I guess also what I was asking was if people consider a regular, premium sleeve such as Dragon Shields to be adequate protection? Of should I always do regular sleeve plus outer? I have a lot of art sleeves on my decks so I do use a lot of outer sleeves to protect em.
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Oh so I did misunderstand your original post. I should feel dumb. The rest of my post still stands though.
I'm not a huge fan of deck + outer sleeve only. This is because most decks aren't really static. Cards get swapped out and moved around. Pulling a card into and out of a sleeve places wear on the card. An inner sleeve greatly helps to diminish this.
Many people will argue that they don't remove cards from sleeve because they purchase identical sleeves for all their Sure, but that stance actually doesn't hold water very well if we're talking about limited run art sleeves. When was the last time you saw an Ultra Pro Fantasy edition sleeve? Or what if you paid for MTGGoldFish custom sleeves? Not like they're always being made.
I'm not saying they can't do the job. They do. You just have to know their limitations and why they exist. Other than Ultra-Pro Pro-Fit* sleeves, I just have a preference for the inner sleeve method.
*I feel their Pro-Fit tolerances are too loose causing many fitted cards to stick out of the top of their own deck sleeves.
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Inner: Ultro Pro Mana Jon Avon art inner sleeve - 80 sleeves
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I generally don't mind double sleeving because it protects the art on the inner sleeve but it is time consuming and the outersleeve can sometimes be too big for the inner sleeve. You also have to consider the quality of both inner and outer sleeves.
I think dragon shields matte sleeves(prone to splitting) / ultro pro's matte sleeves are pretty solid as well / and dex protection sleeves are pretty good. Then there are the KMC perfect fits and those are really good.
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It helps protect from dust that get's under the sleeve.. also protects from accidental spills of drinks.
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Most standard decks are not expensive enough to warrant double sleeving, but with a bunch of foils its highly advisable to put foils in a perfect size inner sleeve to keep as much humidity away from them as possible to prevent them from bending / corrosion ; depending on the location that might be a much bigger issue anyway.
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Decks like modern with a lot of cards you might remove from sleeves and put them in other decks (mostly the lands) , its also highly advisable to use inner sleeves, as you otherwise move the card around often enough that it will get damaged (for that reason its also a good idea to use the very same sleeves so you can interchange cards between decks without changing the sleeves at all).
If sleeves cost you like 20$ bucks in total, they easily justify themselves if the cards in that deck are at least 10 times that value and easily way more than that.
Slightly bend cards are also easier to play with double sleeves, as they are put in form by the sleeves and dont bend as much.
That said, there are TERRIBLE inner sleeves, like the old Ultra Pro ones, which where slightly too small for a magic card and just "barely" fit in, which did already bend the card. The Perfect Fit sleeves from japanese producers are pretty much flawless since the beginning of time (and i put pretty much any card that has a reasonable value in them, which can easily save you a giant amount of time, in case of accidents like a bottle of water that falls over or rain that hits a folder).
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Once I made the switch to double sleeving...I can't hardly imagine going back. Plus perfect fit inner sleeves have dropped in price over the last few years which is great. I use to pay almost $6 for a pack at my local, now I'm only paying half that.
If you're building up a collection or handling expensive cards, MTG is "collectible" first, a game second, so I use latex gloves when transferring between sleeves to prevent oil from smudging on the sides and face of the cards which is further than most people go, but it's easy to notice a giant smudge once it happens.
The way I see it, players who have money to spend on expensive cards to use in decks certainly have the money for sleeves, so neglecting to protect them is irrational and financially counterproductive if and when the cards get damaged without them.
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Latex gloves are generally at the bottom of the totem pole of preferred "barriers" on paper handling. If one must use gloves on paper (it isn't always recommended but that's not here or there), then powder free nitrile gloves is a better choice. This is commonly the blue glove you see in doctor offices or in the food service industry, though I do have a box of "clear" ones that are very nice. Not surprisingly, the National Park Service has a very nice, condensed, PDF on the subject.
For commander I dont double sleeve mostly as a quality of life thing. Shuffling 99 double sleeved cards sucks
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Whenever I buy any gloves I buy whatever says "powder free" on clear gloves or "latex free" so that's not really a concern of mine. I don't know why anyone would need the thick medical ones you're referring to just for handling cards.
I feel you didn't actually read the PDF file there. I referred to the blue medical gloves because that is what most people would be familiar with. If I thought people would be familiar with the archive gloves, I would have pointed them out.
Worrying about the thickness of a glove is a poor argument when the 3mil/4mil variety is easily found.
You stated earlier that you use latex gloves to handle your collection. No mention of "latex-free" otherwise I would have commented differently about it.
If you want to protect both the card and the art sleeve, then I'm afraid you actually need to triple sleeve. If I try to sum each type of sleeve:
Inner Sleeves / Perfect fits - The best at protecting the card condition itself since it absorbs all the minor abrasions a card can sustain even in a regular sleeve and/or dirt accumulation (of course logically nothing can protect from really bad rough shuffling unless you use toploaders but that's just stupid). But they're so flimsy (because as an extra internal protection it focuses on the precise fragile protections) so you can basically never use on its own.
Regular Sleeves - The "standard" protection, but because it was designed to handle regular shuffling, it cannot handle to precision protection inner sleeves do. So basically put, the two types of sleeves are basically two halves of a card full-protection suite.
Oversleeves / Outer Sleeves - Only necessary when you want to protect the regular sleeve and the main reason people want to protect them is because they have art on them and those sleeves are difficult to re-supply once the first (and usually only) run is no longer produced. Some people use it to prevent wear and tear on regular non-art sleeves, but I feel its silly because it's not like oversleeves are immune to wear and tear themselves, so the replacement procedure is at best delayed (to be fair outer sleeves are indeed slightly more durable) and since regular non-art sleeves are easily replaceable, it just makes the deck harder to shuffle for hardly any benefit.
I use the full-protection suite (inner+regular) for my Modern Deck (I only have one, but in theory if I ever built more the same applies) as well as for any of my collections, because I know they will be with me for the long-term.
I have not played Standard for the longest time (I single-sleeved back then, but that was Alara-Zendikar Standard and I didn't really give much thought on the layers of sleeving), but whether I single or double will depend on how long I intend to stay in the format (if its like FNM for a month for the promo its single, if it's for like a year or two double).
EDH (the main format I play) I actually only outer-double sleeve, but that's mainly because 1) I flavor all my decks and they demand art-sleeves to complete it and that in turn demands outer sleeves, 2) shuffling and modifying 100-card decks is already cloying with outer-double sleeves, the third (inner) sleeve will be unbearable... and I have 8 decks. 3) I do play in a relatively clean environment that doesn't involve F&B most of the time and do take other proper measures (like positioning) the very few times food/beverage involve themselves (and even in those occasions its not because the person consistently eats while playing, he or she just missed lunch/dinner and is catching up, so it's not present throughout the session either) - so I can afford to forgo the inner sleeves. 4) Last and most importantly, that also requires the acknowledgement and acceptance that the cards I play with are slightly more susceptible to the minor abrasions that inner sleeves protect from, but I consider cards I get for EDH to stay with me for a long time in a different way than those I solely collect in the sense minor abrasions are fine and perhaps even a tiny pride of them being played the same way very old-school damaged cards are "praised" for "at least it saw use in play", just without the severe damage level as those old-school cards that weren't sleeved at all.
its simply just for keep cards clean and new, i have played my snapcaster mages for 4 years of intense use and are still like the day i buy it just because double sleeve + playmat + becarefull playin and should be good
RW R/W Burn WB B/W TokensXU MonuU Tron // UWX UW Tron
R GoblinsW Soul SistersRWG Small ZooWUR WUR Geist/Control/Kiki-Resto Combo/NahiriUR Splinter Twin (90% Japanese)/ Grixis TwinRUB UR Delver / Grixis Delver UR Blue MoonBWU Ad NauseamWDeath and TaxesRUB Grixis ControlUMerfolksX Affinity RGB Living End UR Storm/PiF Combo RGX R/G TRON GWU Bant Eldrazi BW Eldrazi and Taxes RUBGoryos Vengeance UB Faeries
Legacy:BRx Renimator
Playing right now: Standard: Jeskai Control Modern; GoryosVengeance/UBFaeries/Affinity Legacy: BRx Reanimator Pauper: UR Drake (banned) Commander: Merieke Ri Berit Esper