If i play thoughtseize and someone counters it, in my case specifically it gets countered with a judge's familiar, do i still loose the 2 life?
The way thoughtseize is written, it kind of seems like i dont loose the life until after the card is discarded.
If a spell is countered, none of its effects happen. You losing 2 life is part of Thoughtseize's effect, so no, you don't lose life in that scenario. Note, that even if the spell resolves and the targeted player cannot discard (not having nonland cards in hand), you still lose the 2 life. But yes, the life loss is the last effect of that spell and happens after the discard.
The way thoughtseize is written, it kind of seems like i dont loose the life until after the card is discarded.
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