my Shivan Meteor is suspended with 2 time counters on it.
I declare attack with Boros Reckoner, my opponent declare a 2/2 elf to block it.
During damage resolution, 3 dmg is dealt to the elf and 2 dmg is dealt to Boros Reckoner.
Since Boros Reckoner has a "Whenever" triggered ability, am I able to:
Boros Reckoner's triggered ability on stack, I cast Fury Charm, removing 2 time counters from Shivan Meteor so that I can "cast" the Shivan Meteor targeting Boros Reckoner?
If yes, what would be the dmg dealt to Boros Reckoner? 2+13=15 dmg or just 13 dmg from Shivan Meteor?
Reckoner's ability triggered when it got damaged by the 2/2; from there, the ability is completely independent from the Reckoner and doesn't care what happens to it. As you put the ability on the stack, you choose a target to deal 2 damage to. This doesn't preclude Reckoner from triggering again from Shivan Meteor, and the Meteor's damage causing the Reckoner to be destroyed doesn't do anything to the first trigger for 2 damage even if it's still on the stack. So you'll deal 2 damage to a target and 13 damage to a target, it can be 15 total on your opponent.
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Reckoner's ability triggered when it got damaged by the 2/2; from there, the ability is completely independent from the Reckoner and doesn't care what happens to it. As you put the ability on the stack, you choose a target to deal 2 damage to. This doesn't preclude Reckoner from triggering again from Shivan Meteor, and the Meteor's damage causing the Reckoner to be destroyed doesn't do anything to the first trigger for 2 damage even if it's still on the stack. So you'll deal 2 damage to a target and 13 damage to a target, it can be 15 total on your opponent.
Hi, thanks for answering, what happen if its 3 dmg dealt to Reckoner? Will I be able to dealt 3+13=16 dmg to opponent? Or its just merely 3dmg to opponent since during dmg resolution, reckoner had been dealt lethal dmg?
Reckoner's ability triggered when it got damaged by the 2/2; from there, the ability is completely independent from the Reckoner and doesn't care what happens to it. As you put the ability on the stack, you choose a target to deal 2 damage to. This doesn't preclude Reckoner from triggering again from Shivan Meteor, and the Meteor's damage causing the Reckoner to be destroyed doesn't do anything to the first trigger for 2 damage even if it's still on the stack. So you'll deal 2 damage to a target and 13 damage to a target, it can be 15 total on your opponent.
Hi, thanks for answering, what happen if its 3 dmg dealt to Reckoner? Will I be able to dealt 3+13=16 dmg to opponent? Or its just merely 3dmg to opponent since during dmg resolution, reckoner had been dealt lethal dmg?
Just 3 damage.
If the scenarion is the same but blocking elf is 3/3. Then in combat damage step , after all combat damage are dealt , both Reckoner and elf each has lethal damage. Before Reckoner's ability to be put on the stack , SBA will be checked and send both Reckoner and elf to the graveyard. This means , Reckoner will not be on the field for Shivan meteor in this case.
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Reckoner's ability triggered when it got damaged by the 2/2; from there, the ability is completely independent from the Reckoner and doesn't care what happens to it. As you put the ability on the stack, you choose a target to deal 2 damage to. This doesn't preclude Reckoner from triggering again from Shivan Meteor, and the Meteor's damage causing the Reckoner to be destroyed doesn't do anything to the first trigger for 2 damage even if it's still on the stack. So you'll deal 2 damage to a target and 13 damage to a target, it can be 15 total on your opponent.
Hi, thanks for answering, what happen if its 3 dmg dealt to Reckoner? Will I be able to dealt 3+13=16 dmg to opponent? Or its just merely 3dmg to opponent since during dmg resolution, reckoner had been dealt lethal dmg?
Just 3 damage.
If the scenarion is the same but blocking elf is 3/3. Then in combat damage step , after all combat damage are dealt , both Reckoner and elf each has lethal damage. Before Reckoner's ability to be put on the stack , SBA will be checked and send both Reckoner and elf to the graveyard. This means , Reckoner will not be on the field for Shivan meteor in this case.
Thanks for answering and clarification
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my Shivan Meteor is suspended with 2 time counters on it.
I declare attack with Boros Reckoner, my opponent declare a 2/2 elf to block it.
During damage resolution, 3 dmg is dealt to the elf and 2 dmg is dealt to Boros Reckoner.
Since Boros Reckoner has a "Whenever" triggered ability, am I able to:
Boros Reckoner's triggered ability on stack, I cast Fury Charm, removing 2 time counters from Shivan Meteor so that I can "cast" the Shivan Meteor targeting Boros Reckoner?
If yes, what would be the dmg dealt to Boros Reckoner? 2+13=15 dmg or just 13 dmg from Shivan Meteor?
Hi, thanks for answering, what happen if its 3 dmg dealt to Reckoner? Will I be able to dealt 3+13=16 dmg to opponent? Or its just merely 3dmg to opponent since during dmg resolution, reckoner had been dealt lethal dmg?
Just 3 damage.
If the scenarion is the same but blocking elf is 3/3. Then in combat damage step , after all combat damage are dealt , both Reckoner and elf each has lethal damage. Before Reckoner's ability to be put on the stack , SBA will be checked and send both Reckoner and elf to the graveyard. This means , Reckoner will not be on the field for Shivan meteor in this case.
Obviously , English is not my first Language (sorry about that ).
Thanks for answering and clarification