My opponent has Privileged Position in play. In order to deal with her problem cards, I need to first deal with this issue.
I want to cast Violent Ultimatum. I want to take out P. Position and two others. Because the game checks for State-based Effects first, would targeting Privileged Position first cause it to be sent into the graveyard immediately, and then allowing me to subsequently target two more of her permanents in succession? Or would they still be under the effect of Hexproof until a certain point?
When you cast Violent Ultimatum, you must select all targets. Since Privileged Position protects the other permanents, you don't have three valid targets to cast it (unless you target your own).
You will have to target 2 of your own permanents and they will be destroyed along with the previleged position.
In order to cast any spell or activave an ability you must be able to declare a full suite of targets as you declare it. In the case of violent ultimatum that is 3 seperate permanents and as all of opponents other permanents have hexproof they are not legal targets until the privileged position has been destroyed.
FTR State based actions do not feature in this at all. The only thing that is happening is the static ability on previleged position is ending when it leaves the battlefield.
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You seem to be misunderstanding both state-based effects and how spells work. As you cast Violent Ultimatum, you must choose three legal targets for it, or else you are unable to cast it. As your opponent controls Privileged Position, all of their permanents other than Privileged Position have hexproof, meaning that the only legal target that player controls is priveleged position. Thus, in order to cast Violent Ultimatum, you must target Priveleged Position and 2 permanents controlled by other players that are still legal targets. At this point, after declaring targets and paying the mana cost, Violent Ultimatum is placed on the stack. Then, starting with you, players pass priority. Once all players have passed priority and violent ultimatum is the top spell on the stack, it resolves, at which point each permanent that was targeted by Violent Ultimatum that is both still a legal target and not indestructible will be destroyed at the same time.
In short, no, you can not use Violent Ultimatum to destroy both Priveleged Position and two of your opponents other permanents, because you can not target those permanents when you cast the spell. Additionally, all effects of the spell happen simultaneously, so even if you had a way to change some of Violent Ultimatum's targets (such as Redirect), you would not be able to do so between Violent Ultimatum destroying Privileged Position and Violent Ultimatum destroying the other two targets.
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My opponent has Privileged Position in play. In order to deal with her problem cards, I need to first deal with this issue.
I want to cast Violent Ultimatum. I want to take out P. Position and two others. Because the game checks for State-based Effects first, would targeting Privileged Position first cause it to be sent into the graveyard immediately, and then allowing me to subsequently target two more of her permanents in succession? Or would they still be under the effect of Hexproof until a certain point?
Thanks for your help, everyone.
In order to cast any spell or activave an ability you must be able to declare a full suite of targets as you declare it. In the case of violent ultimatum that is 3 seperate permanents and as all of opponents other permanents have hexproof they are not legal targets until the privileged position has been destroyed.
FTR State based actions do not feature in this at all. The only thing that is happening is the static ability on previleged position is ending when it leaves the battlefield.
- H.L Mencken
I Became insane with long Intervals of horrible Sanity
All Religion, my friend is simply evolved out of fraud, fear, greed, imagination and poetry.
- Edgar Allan Poe
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In short, no, you can not use Violent Ultimatum to destroy both Priveleged Position and two of your opponents other permanents, because you can not target those permanents when you cast the spell. Additionally, all effects of the spell happen simultaneously, so even if you had a way to change some of Violent Ultimatum's targets (such as Redirect), you would not be able to do so between Violent Ultimatum destroying Privileged Position and Violent Ultimatum destroying the other two targets.