So upon request I decided to go through the Magic: Origins cards and divide them into which of the 10+ planes they belong to. There is a section for each plane, plus an additional section for cards that I couldn't quite figure out where they should go, but have narrowed it down. These are all mostly from my point of view, so if there is a decision here that you think is not right, or if you have an opinion on some of the currently unknown card's location, everything here is open for discussion. I'll also be happy to explain my reasoning for any of the card placements that I have made. Also, extra note/needing some assistance with, some of the card images used for reprinted cards are from other sets beside Magic: Origins. If there is a way to change that I'd love to know. Also if this is not the appropriate thread to place this, feel free to move it.
Personally, I think that the planeswalkers and cards associated with them (or at least the ones that take place post-ignition) should be put into their own category.
Aside from that, I would like to propose that we do this every set; not necessarily from what worlds the cards are set on, but what factions, races, etc. they belong to. I realize this might be troublesome, but I think it would be worth it(maybe).
Personally, I think that the planeswalkers and cards associated with them (or at least the ones that take place post-ignition) should be put into their own category.
Aside from that, I would like to propose that we do this every set; not necessarily from what worlds the cards are set on, but what factions, races, etc. they belong to. I realize this might be troublesome, but I think it would be worth it(maybe).
I shall now explain reasoning as to my decisions for these cards. Stratus Walk - Was actually first printed in Theros, and the attire fits, so it belongs in Theros Anointer of Champions - This one is up for debate, but just looking at the armor of the Anointer, she looks like Elspeth with the armor and cloak. Thunderclap Wyvern - for 1. Each of the 2 color cards thematically fits into a particular plane, W/B-Dominaria, U/B-Innistrad, U/R-Kaladesh, B/R-Regatha, B/G-Lorwyn, R/G-Zendikar, R/W-Theros, G/W-Bant, and G/U-Ravnica. Only thing left is W/U for Vryn. 2nd, in the art of Hydrolash we can assume that Keyta from the flavor text is the woman pictured in the artwork since the flavor states she is a hydromancer and against the Mage-Rings of Vryn. So in art she's surrounded by water and Wyvern similar in design to the Thunderclap Wyvern. Charging Griffin - This is another one up for debate. For a lot of these decisions I went through and looked at each time a particular card was printed in a set/block correlating to a plane. For griffins, the planes would be Dominaria, Innistrad, Ravnica, Mercadia (which isn't relevant), Theros, Zendikar, and Naya. The reason I chose Ravnica though, and if others make a sound argument against this I'll change the location, but if you look closely at the background art of Charging Griffin you'll see that he is flying through a city with walkways that almost take up the entire frame, which led me to believe that out of the 10 planes, this griffin would be from Ravnica. Negate - Same as Stratus Walk, the first printing of Negate was in Morningtide one of the 4 sets of the Lorwyn block. This was with the same art and flavor text which is featured in Magic: Origins, so by that conclusion, negate in its entirety is originally from Lorwyn. Orbs of Warding - This one may be a stretch, but my decision is based on the artwork. For one, in the background there are floating rocks. Its hard to discern how high the subject of the art is standing, but floating rocks/ground make me think Zendikar. Plus, the subject does look slightly like a Zendikari Vampire even with some faint markings on his head. I don't see anything to disprove it, nor anything that would make it from any other plane, so Zendikar is where I placed it.
Now to your change ideas, some of them are valid where others I have reason to doubt. Archangel of Tithes hasn't been confirmed from anywhere as far as I'm concerned, but what made me think Innistrad is Liliana's outfit. This is her in what I call her pre-mending planeswalker attire that she spent a lot of time on Innistrad practicing necromancy, so it made more sense to have the Archangel on Innistrad as something that would harbor Liliana's progress. Alchemist's Vial has a couple issues if in Lorwyn, 1. I don't think we have confirmation that Alchemy is practiced in Lorwyn. and 2. there are no humans on Lorwyn naturally, though for the most part unknown, the person in the image looks quite a bit human. Divine Verdict that is pictured, yes from Theros, but the Magic: Origins version art wise (which for the life of me I can't figure out how to show) is not the same artwork. Though I do agree on the Harbinger of Tides probably being from Theros, though what makes me doubt is the fact that the Octopi he is summoning also exist on Dominaria and Zendikar.
Everything else you've mentioned is valid, especially the Rabid Bloodsucker didn't think about the wings, so that will be altered.
Gideon's Phalanx is actually from Ravnica. The soldiers he's with are Boros.
In the Inside R&D vid for Lili James Wyatt said that Archangel of Tithes is from Innistrad.
Also: Hatty check some of your image tags within the spoilers.
You mean any card with an apostrophe? I have no idea how to fix it. Some of them have fixed themselves but others have just stayed as texts.
Also, I'll move it, but I can't 100% agree to Gideon's Phalanx being in Ravnica due to how R&D and multiple articles keep mentioning that each walker gets 1 spell mastery spell for when on their home plane, 1 for when near they first walked on their first walked plane, and 1 more in their prime on their first walked plane. The buildings in the art as well do look somewhat Band in design, plus the number of trees. Then again, all three of Nissa's spell mastery cards look like their in Zendikar so maybe they fudged the cycles a bit for those two.
Some things I'd like to highlight or offer suggestions or opinions for:
1) Demonic Pact probably can be grouped together with Kotophed, seeing that in Lili's Origins UR, that art comes straight after Kothoped gave her her tattoos. Of course, then there's the problem: We are not sure from where Kotophed is (I don't think the name of his home plane has been revealed, no?)
2) Subterranean Scout strikes me as a Zendikari Goblin, taking into account the nature of the plane... I think there's also that Goblin Guide from Zendikar, too, which is why I think this goblin may be from the same place.
3) This Divine Verdict should be considered from Theros, personally speaking thanks to the cyclops in the art. Of course, that they took out the flavor text can be the reason why you digress.
4) Infernal Scarring looks quite similar to Demonic Pact to me, so it can be grouped together with the Pact and Kotophed.
5) Sentinel of the Eternal Watch looks Ravnican to me, but then again, it's not 100% certain.
6) It's funny how Heavy Infantry looks like Abzan soldiers... But yeah, leave that to the other planes.
Some things I'd like to highlight or offer suggestions or opinions for:
1) Demonic Pact probably can be grouped together with Kotophed, seeing that in Lili's Origins UR, that art comes straight after Kothoped gave her her tattoos. Of course, then there's the problem: We are not sure from where Kotophed is (I don't think the name of his home plane has been revealed, no?)
2) Subterranean Scout strikes me as a Zendikari Goblin, taking into account the nature of the plane... I think there's also that Goblin Guide from Zendikar, too, which is why I think this goblin may be from the same place.
3) This Divine Verdict should be considered from Theros, personally speaking thanks to the cyclops in the art. Of course, that they took out the flavor text can be the reason why you digress.
4) Infernal Scarring looks quite similar to Demonic Pact to me, so it can be grouped together with the Pact and Kotophed.
5) Sentinel of the Eternal Watch looks Ravnican to me, but then again, it's not 100% certain.
6) It's funny how Heavy Infantry looks like Abzan soldiers... But yeah, leave that to the other planes.
I agree with all your reasoning, except the Divine Verdict. I need to figure this out, but the Divine Verdict that is shown in my thread is not the Magic: Origins version of Divine Verdict. Look up on gatherer or somewhere for the Magic: Origins version and you'll see what I'm talking about. But like I said, your other suggestions are valid, for the most part I won't change much unless there is a general consensus of opinion.
EDIT: I'm now realizing that it is quite confusing which version of Divine Verdict is from Magic Origins. The version here on MTGSalvation for Magic: Origins shows the Theros block artwork, whereas in the official Gatherer it shows the old version of Divine Verdict. Not sure what to do here since I haven't physically seen which version the Divine Verdict is in the Free Decks/Deck Builder's Toolkit
Thunderclap Wyvern - for 1. Each of the 2 color cards thematically fits into a particular plane, W/B-Dominaria, U/B-Innistrad, U/R-Kaladesh, B/R-Regatha, B/G-Lorwyn, R/G-Zendikar, R/W-Theros, G/W-Bant, and G/U-Ravnica. Only thing left is W/U for Vryn. 2nd, in the art of Hydrolash we can assume that Keyta from the flavor text is the woman pictured in the artwork since the flavor states she is a hydromancer and against the Mage-Rings of Vryn. So in art she's surrounded by water and Wyvern similar in design to the Thunderclap Wyvern.
I see both of these points now. I thought those fliers on hydrolash were drakes. Talrand has clouded my judgement.
Charging Griffin - This is another one up for debate. For a lot of these decisions I went through and looked at each time a particular card was printed in a set/block correlating to a plane. For griffins, the planes would be Dominaria, Innistrad, Ravnica, Mercadia (which isn't relevant), Theros, Zendikar, and Naya. The reason I chose Ravnica though, and if others make a sound argument against this I'll change the location, but if you look closely at the background art of Charging Griffin you'll see that he is flying through a city with walkways that almost take up the entire frame, which led me to believe that out of the 10 planes, this griffin would be from Ravnica.
I can sorta see the Ravnica-esque city in the background. I'm still not sure, but it's whatever.
Negate - Same as Stratus Walk, the first printing of Negate was in Morningtide one of the 4 sets of the Lorwyn block. This was with the same art and flavor text which is featured in Magic: Origins, so by that conclusion, negate in its entirety is originally from Lorwyn.
I could have sworn I checked Gatherer before posting this. I guess that thing on the art is a Merrow?
Orbs of Warding - This one may be a stretch, but my decision is based on the artwork. For one, in the background there are floating rocks. Its hard to discern how high the subject of the art is standing, but floating rocks/ground make me think Zendikar. Plus, the subject does look slightly like a Zendikari Vampire even with some faint markings on his head. I don't see anything to disprove it, nor anything that would make it from any other plane, so Zendikar is where I placed it.
I think Zendikar is the best fit, but I'm still not sold, mainly because I can't see it being useful there. Being saved from a goblin token or some random mage isn't useful when a giant wurm just nommed on your corpse.
I too thought the art looked to be depicting a Zendikari Vampire, but I can't be certain.
Archangel of Tithes hasn't been confirmed from anywhere as far as I'm concerned, but what made me think Innistrad is Liliana's outfit.
This one is.... complicated. IIRC, when we first heard of Unholy Hunger's story "importance", it was said to take place on Dominaria. However, in the Inside R&D video, we were told it happened on Innistrad. I'm still inclined to go with Dominaria, but it could be either one.
Alchemist's Vial has a couple issues if in Lorwyn, 1. I don't think we have confirmation that Alchemy is practiced in Lorwyn. and 2. there are no humans on Lorwyn naturally, though for the most part unknown, the person in the image looks quite a bit human.
Alchemy is widely practiced by the Kithkin, and the art could be showing a Kithkin. I do think it looks a little too human though.
Negate - Same as Stratus Walk, the first printing of Negate was in Morningtide one of the 4 sets of the Lorwyn block. This was with the same art and flavor text which is featured in Magic: Origins, so by that conclusion, negate in its entirety is originally from Lorwyn.
I could have sworn I checked Gatherer before posting this. I guess that thing on the art is a Merrow?
Alchemist's Vial has a couple issues if in Lorwyn, 1. I don't think we have confirmation that Alchemy is practiced in Lorwyn. and 2. there are no humans on Lorwyn naturally, though for the most part unknown, the person in the image looks quite a bit human.
Alchemy is widely practiced by the Kithkin, and the art could be showing a Kithkin. I do think it looks a little too human though.
I actually didn't know that about the Kithkin, and just looked it up on card form. I'll add it as a possibility.
Just to add to the placement of Thunderclap Wyvern on Vryn, since no one stated it explicitly, there are mage-rings visible peeking above the clouds at the bottom of the art.
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Just to add to the placement of Thunderclap Wyvern on Vryn, since no one stated it explicitly, there are mage-rings visible peeking above the clouds at the bottom of the art.
Personally I entertain the thought of the Hitchclaw Recluse to be from Vryn. If you look at most artwork from cards from Vryn, like Thunderclap Wyvern and Separatist Voidmage you see how circles are a recurring theme in the artwork, even if its not the actual magerings. Now if you look at the forelegs of the spider you also see circles. Maybe I'm crazy, but if true this would be some cute visual theme going through all the Vryn cards.
In the Inside R&D vid for Lili James Wyatt said that Archangel of Tithes is from Innistrad.
I thought it was mentioned the Archangel of Tithes attacked Liliana when she walked back to Dominaria one time? Does Liliana's campaign give any clue as to where she encounters the archangel?
Alchemy is widely practiced by the Kithkin, and the art could be showing a Kithkin. I do think it looks a little too human though.
I don't think you can call what the Kithkin practise true alchemy. They just mix some powders and liquids together, often more out of superstition than actual trial and error.
Maritime Guard is from Shandalar. The old flavortext speaks about Kapsho seas.
Watercourser is from Shandalar. Plummet is from Shandalar.
Maritume Guard, yes, I didn't want to say its from Shandalar since that is not one of the 10 main planes. Though I guess since Weave Fate is in there, I can validly change that. And Watercourser Flavor text is yes from Shandalar. But it is still unconfirmed where the Giltwood is that is mentioned in the flavor text for Plummet.
Anointer of Champions is definitely not from Theros. Look at the armor and sword on the kneeling figure. I think OP is right about Bant, but since I can't see any obvious sigils Dominaria could also be possible.
There's such a similarity between Anointer of Champions and Archangel of Thune, down to garments and pose, that I'd believe she is from Shandalar. The kneeling soldier in full-clad armor lacks to me the finesse and decorum of Bant armors, and looks more generic like we've seen on core cards like Captain of the Watch, armored warhorse, etc.
I don't understand why they went with gorgons and Theros for evolutionary leap instead of simic mutants
Evolutionary Leap is not confirmed to be from Theros, unless Gorgons with a snake like lower body are rare enough that it can be considered "very very likely to be from Theros". The snake just strikes me as odd, as it's a constrictor, instead of a poison snake, so it doesn't fit Theros too well for my taste, but I could be wrong.
You have a point with the Simic though, it would have been a perfect fit.
I don't think Anointer of Champions can be from Shandalar, since it's new art. We know all the new art is meant to be on one of the ten featured planes (some of the reprints get away with technically being from elsewhere as long as they could plausibly fit on one of the ten).
On second thought, I think Anointer is probably from Dominaria rather than Bant. The knight's armor lacks any of the gold edging that Bant armor has (the "gold" looking streaks are stalks of grain if you look closely). With no visible sigils or high pauldrons, it just doesn't have any of the visual cues of armor from Bant. Also, and this may be a bit of a reach, but doesn't the Anointer's outfit look a lot like the one on Liliana, Heretical Healer? She's all in white with the little half-cape; the main difference is that she has some armor. It could be the battlefield dress for a healer of Liliana's old order.
Maritime Guard is from Shandalar. The old flavortext speaks about Kapsho seas.
Watercourser is from Shandalar. Plummet is from Shandalar.
Maritume Guard, yes, I didn't want to say its from Shandalar since that is not one of the 10 main planes. Though I guess since Weave Fate is in there, I can validly change that. And Watercourser Flavor text is yes from Shandalar. But it is still unconfirmed where the Giltwood is that is mentioned in the flavor text for Plummet.
Basically, any name from core sets that cannot be assigned to any known plane is presumed to be Shandalar by default.
I would vouch for Anointer of Champions being from Dominaria. She reminds me a bit of the Otarian healers (sans headdress). Dire Wombat is right about her being similar to the Forward Order dressing.
She is definitely not from Theros or Bant.
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Alchemy is widely practiced by the Kithkin, and the art could be showing a Kithkin. I do think it looks a little too human though.
I don't think you can call what the Kithkin practise true alchemy. They just mix some powders and liquids together, often more out of superstition than actual trial and error.
I think we can call it alchemy, mainly because they have Battletide Alchemist. Either way, I am loosing hope that they remembered the Kithkin existed due to how human the hands are.
Either way, I am loosing hope that they remembered the Kithkin existed due to how human the hands are.
In all fairness, if they asked the artist to make it a kithkin, they would have handed them the styleguide of Lorwyn, which the artist then needs to get familiar with first. It's just too much effort, if the kithkin is not the focus and such nobody would even notice if it was a kithkin. I mean, we'd still debate if it was a kithkin, a dwarf or just an oddly proportioned human without word of god, even if they went through all the trouble.
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Hitchclaw Recluse - Vryn added as a possible plane.
Anointer of Champions - Changed to Dominaria, since enough people think it.
Archangel of Tithes - Changed to Unknown Dominaria/Innistrad since apparently creative can't make up their mind.
The reasoning I have with Evolutionary Leap is the two things. 1. The background feels too woody/grassy in my opinion to be from Ravnica. 2. As far as I know with just looking at the 13 gorgons that exist+Vraska, Dominaria and Ravnica both have gorgons but its unknown if Dominarian gorgons have legs, and because of Vraska we know that Ravnican gorgons have legs and Theros gorgon do not have legs but the snake tail. Thats why I reason that the art is of Theros. If there is other art with gorgons of Dominaria and Ravnica where they have the tail rather than legs I'll move the Leap to a different section.
Gideon's Phalanx is actually from Ravnica. The soldiers he's with are Boros.
Also, I'll move it, but I can't 100% agree to Gideon's Phalanx being in Ravnica due to how R&D and multiple articles keep mentioning that each walker gets 1 spell mastery spell for when on their home plane, 1 for when near they first walked on their first walked plane, and 1 more in their prime on their first walked plane. The buildings in the art as well do look somewhat Band in design, plus the number of trees. Then again, all three of Nissa's spell mastery cards look like their in Zendikar so maybe they fudged the cycles a bit for those two.
Those are, without a doubt, Boros soldiers though, so it has to be on Ravnica.
Personally I entertain the thought of the Hitchclaw Recluse to be from Vryn. If you look at most artwork from cards from Vryn, like Thunderclap Wyvern and Separatist Voidmage you see how circles are a recurring theme in the artwork, even if its not the actual magerings. Now if you look at the forelegs of the spider you also see circles. Maybe I'm crazy, but if true this would be some cute visual theme going through all the Vryn cards.
I like this because the reasoning behind it is amazing and I hope it's true. I mean, even the chairs, staves, and windows have circular influences on Vryn cards. Only Calculated Dismissal and Hydrolash are missing it. It would be fantastic if this was retained for the hypothetical Vryn block. Think of it like how hedrons show up in Zendikar art, though even more permeated throughout the styling of the world.
Re: Evolutionary Leap - my personal theory, and it's just that, is that it might not be a gorgon at all but just a woman, the serpentine features actually coiling back from the mutation. Like her torso has no clear demarcation between the snake and human features, unlike most gorgons we've seen, it might indicate her human shape is actually taking shape out of the snake one.
I like this because the reasoning behind it is amazing and I hope it's true. I mean, even the chairs, staves, and windows have circular influences on Vryn cards. Only Calculated Dismissal and Hydrolash are missing it.
Calculated Dismissal actually does have a magering in the background, if you look closely.
Hydrolash lacks obvious circles, true, but the mage is casting a double helix of water and a double helix is basically two strands 'circling' around a center point. It's probably too much of a stretch and not intended by the art team, but hey, I take everything I can get to keep my shaky theory up. :B
I like this because the reasoning behind it is amazing and I hope it's true. I mean, even the chairs, staves, and windows have circular influences on Vryn cards. Only Calculated Dismissal and Hydrolash are missing it.
Calculated Dismissal actually does have a magering in the background, if you look closely.
Hydrolash lacks obvious circles, true, but the mage is casting a double helix of water and a double helix is basically two strands 'circling' around a center point. It's probably too much of a stretch and not intended by the art team, but hey, I take everything I can get to keep my shaky theory up. :B
You know what, I like this theory so much that I'm moving the Hitchclaw to Vryn plane. If anyone is opposed speak your peace.
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Non-Bant Alara Reprints
Zendikar’s Roil
- Bant/Dominaria/None (extra card from Free Decks)
Alchemist’s Vial - Vryn/Ravnica/Dominaria/Innistrad/Kaladesh+/Lorwyn+
Anchor to the Æther - Theros/Dominaria
- Theros/Dominaria/Innistrad/Regatha++/Zendikar/Lorwyn
- Ravnica/Dominaria/Innistrad
Brawler’s Plate - Theros/Ravnica/Dominaria
Day’s Undoing - Theros/Dominaria/Lorwyn+
- Theros/Dominaria/Zendikar
- Vryn/Kaladesh/Regatha
- Ravnica/Dominaria/Innistrad/Lorwyn(Shadowmoor)
- Theros+/Bant/Ravnica/Dominaria
- Theros/Vryn/Dominaria/Zendikar+
- Ravnica/Dominaria/None (extra card from Free Decks)
- Dominaria/Regatha/Zendikar
- Dominaria/Regatha++/Zendikar/Lorwyn
- Ravnica/Dominaria/Innistrad/Regatha++/Zendikar/Lorwyn
- Theros/Dominaria/Regatha++/Zendikar
- Ravnica/Dominaria/Innistrad/None (extra card from Free Decks)
- Dominaria/Regatha/Zendikar
- Theros+/Dominaria/Zendikar
- Dominaria/Regatha
- Theros/Ravnica/Dominaria/Zendikar
- Ravnica/Dominaria/Zendikar
- Theros+/Dominaria/Zendikar
- Shandalar art wise, Theros/Dominaria/Zendikar
- Ravnica/Dominaria/Innistrad
- Theros/Dominaria/Innistrad/Regatha++
- Theros++/Dominaria/Zendikar/Lorwyn
- Theros/Dominaria/Zendikar/None (extra card from Free Decks)(+Flavor is Lorwyn, no Sphinxes on Lorwyn)
- Dominaria/Innistrad
- Anywhere except Lorwyn
- Dominaria/Theros
- Theros/Dominaria/Regatha++/Zendikar
- Ravnica+/Dominaria
- Theros/Dominaria/Zendikar
- Theros/Dominaria/Zendikar
- Dominaria/Regatha/Zendikar+
- NOT Bant
- Theros/Dominaria/Innistrad
- Ravnica/Dominaria
- Theros/Regatha++/Zendikar
- Dominaria/Zendikar
- (Flavor text is Shandalar) NOT Ravnica, Lorwyn+
- Tarkir (But only in extra deck/toolkit so doesn’t count towards cohesive lore)
- Ravnica+/Kaladesh
- Dominaria/Zendikar
Some cards that I think are misplaced, or would simply like to hear the explanation of:
Stratus Walk
Anointer of Champions
Thunderclap Wyvern
Charging Griffin
Negate
Orbs of Warding
Personally, I think that the planeswalkers and cards associated with them (or at least the ones that take place post-ignition) should be put into their own category.
Cards I think I could help with:
I believe the Archangel of Tithes is from Dominaria.
Alchemist's Vial is from Lorwyn.
Divine Verdict and Harbinger of Tides are from Theros.
Displacement Wave is probably from Zendikar.
Turn to frog might be from Vryn.
Rabid Bloodsuckerprobably isn't from Innistrad; I don't think the Vampires there had wings.
Aside from that, I would like to propose that we do this every set; not necessarily from what worlds the cards are set on, but what factions, races, etc. they belong to. I realize this might be troublesome, but I think it would be worth it(maybe).
I shall now explain reasoning as to my decisions for these cards.
Stratus Walk - Was actually first printed in Theros, and the attire fits, so it belongs in Theros
Anointer of Champions - This one is up for debate, but just looking at the armor of the Anointer, she looks like Elspeth with the armor and cloak.
Thunderclap Wyvern - for 1. Each of the 2 color cards thematically fits into a particular plane, W/B-Dominaria, U/B-Innistrad, U/R-Kaladesh, B/R-Regatha, B/G-Lorwyn, R/G-Zendikar, R/W-Theros, G/W-Bant, and G/U-Ravnica. Only thing left is W/U for Vryn. 2nd, in the art of Hydrolash we can assume that Keyta from the flavor text is the woman pictured in the artwork since the flavor states she is a hydromancer and against the Mage-Rings of Vryn. So in art she's surrounded by water and Wyvern similar in design to the Thunderclap Wyvern.
Charging Griffin - This is another one up for debate. For a lot of these decisions I went through and looked at each time a particular card was printed in a set/block correlating to a plane. For griffins, the planes would be Dominaria, Innistrad, Ravnica, Mercadia (which isn't relevant), Theros, Zendikar, and Naya. The reason I chose Ravnica though, and if others make a sound argument against this I'll change the location, but if you look closely at the background art of Charging Griffin you'll see that he is flying through a city with walkways that almost take up the entire frame, which led me to believe that out of the 10 planes, this griffin would be from Ravnica.
Negate - Same as Stratus Walk, the first printing of Negate was in Morningtide one of the 4 sets of the Lorwyn block. This was with the same art and flavor text which is featured in Magic: Origins, so by that conclusion, negate in its entirety is originally from Lorwyn.
Orbs of Warding - This one may be a stretch, but my decision is based on the artwork. For one, in the background there are floating rocks. Its hard to discern how high the subject of the art is standing, but floating rocks/ground make me think Zendikar. Plus, the subject does look slightly like a Zendikari Vampire even with some faint markings on his head. I don't see anything to disprove it, nor anything that would make it from any other plane, so Zendikar is where I placed it.
Now to your change ideas, some of them are valid where others I have reason to doubt.
Archangel of Tithes hasn't been confirmed from anywhere as far as I'm concerned, but what made me think Innistrad is Liliana's outfit. This is her in what I call her pre-mending planeswalker attire that she spent a lot of time on Innistrad practicing necromancy, so it made more sense to have the Archangel on Innistrad as something that would harbor Liliana's progress.
Alchemist's Vial has a couple issues if in Lorwyn, 1. I don't think we have confirmation that Alchemy is practiced in Lorwyn. and 2. there are no humans on Lorwyn naturally, though for the most part unknown, the person in the image looks quite a bit human.
Divine Verdict that is pictured, yes from Theros, but the Magic: Origins version art wise (which for the life of me I can't figure out how to show) is not the same artwork. Though I do agree on the Harbinger of Tides probably being from Theros, though what makes me doubt is the fact that the Octopi he is summoning also exist on Dominaria and Zendikar.
Everything else you've mentioned is valid, especially the Rabid Bloodsucker didn't think about the wings, so that will be altered.
In the Inside R&D vid for Lili James Wyatt said that Archangel of Tithes is from Innistrad.
Also: Hatty check some of your image tags within the spoilers.
You mean any card with an apostrophe? I have no idea how to fix it. Some of them have fixed themselves but others have just stayed as texts.
Also, I'll move it, but I can't 100% agree to Gideon's Phalanx being in Ravnica due to how R&D and multiple articles keep mentioning that each walker gets 1 spell mastery spell for when on their home plane, 1 for when near they first walked on their first walked plane, and 1 more in their prime on their first walked plane. The buildings in the art as well do look somewhat Band in design, plus the number of trees. Then again, all three of Nissa's spell mastery cards look like their in Zendikar so maybe they fudged the cycles a bit for those two.
Some things I'd like to highlight or offer suggestions or opinions for:
1) Demonic Pact probably can be grouped together with Kotophed, seeing that in Lili's Origins UR, that art comes straight after Kothoped gave her her tattoos. Of course, then there's the problem: We are not sure from where Kotophed is (I don't think the name of his home plane has been revealed, no?)
2) Subterranean Scout strikes me as a Zendikari Goblin, taking into account the nature of the plane... I think there's also that Goblin Guide from Zendikar, too, which is why I think this goblin may be from the same place.
3) This Divine Verdict should be considered from Theros, personally speaking thanks to the cyclops in the art. Of course, that they took out the flavor text can be the reason why you digress.
4) Infernal Scarring looks quite similar to Demonic Pact to me, so it can be grouped together with the Pact and Kotophed.
5) Sentinel of the Eternal Watch looks Ravnican to me, but then again, it's not 100% certain.
6) It's funny how Heavy Infantry looks like Abzan soldiers... But yeah, leave that to the other planes.
I agree with all your reasoning, except the Divine Verdict. I need to figure this out, but the Divine Verdict that is shown in my thread is not the Magic: Origins version of Divine Verdict. Look up on gatherer or somewhere for the Magic: Origins version and you'll see what I'm talking about. But like I said, your other suggestions are valid, for the most part I won't change much unless there is a general consensus of opinion.
EDIT: I'm now realizing that it is quite confusing which version of Divine Verdict is from Magic Origins. The version here on MTGSalvation for Magic: Origins shows the Theros block artwork, whereas in the official Gatherer it shows the old version of Divine Verdict. Not sure what to do here since I haven't physically seen which version the Divine Verdict is in the Free Decks/Deck Builder's Toolkit
I see your reasoning, but I personally think it looks more Theran.
I see both of these points now. I thought those fliers on hydrolash were drakes. Talrand has clouded my judgement.
I can sorta see the Ravnica-esque city in the background. I'm still not sure, but it's whatever.
I could have sworn I checked Gatherer before posting this. I guess that thing on the art is a Merrow?
I think Zendikar is the best fit, but I'm still not sold, mainly because I can't see it being useful there. Being saved from a goblin token or some random mage isn't useful when a giant wurm just nommed on your corpse.
I too thought the art looked to be depicting a Zendikari Vampire, but I can't be certain.
This one is.... complicated. IIRC, when we first heard of Unholy Hunger's story "importance", it was said to take place on Dominaria. However, in the Inside R&D video, we were told it happened on Innistrad. I'm still inclined to go with Dominaria, but it could be either one.
Alchemy is widely practiced by the Kithkin, and the art could be showing a Kithkin. I do think it looks a little too human though.
Fair enough, I won't move it to Theros or unknown yet, but if enough others agree then I'm all for the change
Merrow is the only thing that would make sense.
I actually didn't know that about the Kithkin, and just looked it up on card form. I'll add it as a possibility.
Indeed, I just came to make the same comment. For confirmation, this article also helps: http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/worlds-magic-origins-2015-07-09
Maritime Guard is from Shandalar. The old flavortext speaks about Kapsho seas.
Watercourser is from Shandalar. Plummet is from Shandalar.
Let this great clan rest in peace (2001-2011)
I thought it was mentioned the Archangel of Tithes attacked Liliana when she walked back to Dominaria one time? Does Liliana's campaign give any clue as to where she encounters the archangel?
I don't think you can call what the Kithkin practise true alchemy. They just mix some powders and liquids together, often more out of superstition than actual trial and error.
Maritume Guard, yes, I didn't want to say its from Shandalar since that is not one of the 10 main planes. Though I guess since Weave Fate is in there, I can validly change that. And Watercourser Flavor text is yes from Shandalar. But it is still unconfirmed where the Giltwood is that is mentioned in the flavor text for Plummet.
Evolutionary Leap is not confirmed to be from Theros, unless Gorgons with a snake like lower body are rare enough that it can be considered "very very likely to be from Theros". The snake just strikes me as odd, as it's a constrictor, instead of a poison snake, so it doesn't fit Theros too well for my taste, but I could be wrong.
You have a point with the Simic though, it would have been a perfect fit.
On second thought, I think Anointer is probably from Dominaria rather than Bant. The knight's armor lacks any of the gold edging that Bant armor has (the "gold" looking streaks are stalks of grain if you look closely). With no visible sigils or high pauldrons, it just doesn't have any of the visual cues of armor from Bant. Also, and this may be a bit of a reach, but doesn't the Anointer's outfit look a lot like the one on Liliana, Heretical Healer? She's all in white with the little half-cape; the main difference is that she has some armor. It could be the battlefield dress for a healer of Liliana's old order.
Basically, any name from core sets that cannot be assigned to any known plane is presumed to be Shandalar by default.
I would vouch for Anointer of Champions being from Dominaria. She reminds me a bit of the Otarian healers (sans headdress). Dire Wombat is right about her being similar to the Forward Order dressing.
She is definitely not from Theros or Bant.
Let this great clan rest in peace (2001-2011)
I think we can call it alchemy, mainly because they have Battletide Alchemist. Either way, I am loosing hope that they remembered the Kithkin existed due to how human the hands are.
Okay, you have a point there. Personally, I wouldn't call it alchemy, but if creative does, who am I to argue with.
In all fairness, if they asked the artist to make it a kithkin, they would have handed them the styleguide of Lorwyn, which the artist then needs to get familiar with first. It's just too much effort, if the kithkin is not the focus and such nobody would even notice if it was a kithkin. I mean, we'd still debate if it was a kithkin, a dwarf or just an oddly proportioned human without word of god, even if they went through all the trouble.
Hitchclaw Recluse - Vryn added as a possible plane.
Anointer of Champions - Changed to Dominaria, since enough people think it.
Archangel of Tithes - Changed to Unknown Dominaria/Innistrad since apparently creative can't make up their mind.
The reasoning I have with Evolutionary Leap is the two things. 1. The background feels too woody/grassy in my opinion to be from Ravnica. 2. As far as I know with just looking at the 13 gorgons that exist+Vraska, Dominaria and Ravnica both have gorgons but its unknown if Dominarian gorgons have legs, and because of Vraska we know that Ravnican gorgons have legs and Theros gorgon do not have legs but the snake tail. Thats why I reason that the art is of Theros. If there is other art with gorgons of Dominaria and Ravnica where they have the tail rather than legs I'll move the Leap to a different section.
Those are, without a doubt, Boros soldiers though, so it has to be on Ravnica.
I like this because the reasoning behind it is amazing and I hope it's true. I mean, even the chairs, staves, and windows have circular influences on Vryn cards. Only Calculated Dismissal and Hydrolash are missing it. It would be fantastic if this was retained for the hypothetical Vryn block. Think of it like how hedrons show up in Zendikar art, though even more permeated throughout the styling of the world.
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Calculated Dismissal actually does have a magering in the background, if you look closely.
Hydrolash lacks obvious circles, true, but the mage is casting a double helix of water and a double helix is basically two strands 'circling' around a center point. It's probably too much of a stretch and not intended by the art team, but hey, I take everything I can get to keep my shaky theory up. :B
You know what, I like this theory so much that I'm moving the Hitchclaw to Vryn plane. If anyone is opposed speak your peace.