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I don't think Competitive Standard is a "fun" way to play Magic. It's good. It has it's place - Seeing the best deck you can create and trying to beat all others is totally a legit way to play the game. However it's not an inherently "fun" experience, especially when that's all you have. Magic offers so many ways to play, but in Arena, since the goal is 'win at all costs' and the only free modes are Ranked and Play, that means in Arena THE game is competitive standard. (There's Draft and Sealed, but those are $$$$ and there's the occasional, blue-moon Pauper or Singleton but they're so rare as to hardly consider 'modes of play' in Arena). So Ranked play is all the same top tier decks. And you have to play those too unless you enjoy losing by turn four. I get tired of playing Esper Control sometimes and want to try something janky or a combo deck or even just a halfway decent deck like Esper midrange, but there is no place to play them. Anything else get's crushed fast in Ranked. Even unranked Play mode is all the same tier-1 decks: Monored, monoblue, Esper, Gates, Sultai, Dimir.. on a loop. Sign in to Arena, play one of your tier 1 decks, play 4 games against monored, 2 monoblue and a dimir control, then quit. Janky decks aren't fun to play when your opponent is playing World Championship Mono Red Turn 3 victory deck in the unranked freeplay mode. And I don't know about you guys but I get bored of playing my top tier decks after a while. So what does that leave? The occasional Draft game when I save up enough gold once a week maybe? Draft is fun, but I like deckbuilding and want to play some other games. But right now there's no place for anything else in Arena. So I've just been logging in, doing my daily quest, and leaving... usually feeling "well that was a waste of time" after I'm done. I'd love for this game to make it, but sadly I dont think it's much fun.
This is and always be a matter of opinion. What does "fun" mean to you?
I am playing unranked with four planeswalker decks from GRN/RNA, which I slowly upgrade from ePacks for gold, and I'm having a lot of fun playing against various decks, and having 20% - 40% win rate.
I don't play ranked or limited (I don't know how to draft), and in the future I probably won't spend any money in game. For me, this approach is enough and fun. For you, maybe not.
This is and always be a matter of opinion. What does "fun" mean to you?
I am playing unranked with four planeswalker decks from GRN/RNA, which I slowly upgrade from ePacks for gold, and I'm having a lot of fun playing against various decks, and having 20% - 40% win rate.
I don't play ranked or limited (I don't know how to draft), and in the future I probably won't spend any money in game. For me, this approach is enough and fun. For you, maybe not.
This is actually what I would consider fun, and would like to be able to do. But at some point you will probably get tired of a 20% win ratio. Even if you're like "winning doesnt matter to me" it gets boring to play games where you've lost by turn 5 over and over. You want to try out your deck. You want a game that goes on for a couple rounds. You cant get that here.
Well, maybe the thing is I do not have "competitive" decks. So I do not match "competitive" opponents. My upgrades are strictly flavorful - only neutral or guild-exclusive cards, and certainly no cards out of Ravnica block. When for example Dovin's deck started to lose more last week, I changed it a bit and added two High Alerts. Together with Concordia Pegasus and Spirit of the Spires the result is suddenly much better.
Other thing is that I don't use wildcards. Maybe the deck strength is also measured by the number of used wildcards.
(Was banned from the official forums for this observation, so here it is)
I don't think Competitive Standard is a "fun" way to play Magic. It's good. It has it's place - Seeing the best deck you can create and trying to beat all others is totally a legit way to play the game. However it's not an inherently "fun" experience, especially when that's all you have. Magic offers so many ways to play, but in Arena, since the goal is 'win at all costs' and the only free modes are Ranked and Play, that means in Arena THE game is competitive standard. (There's Draft and Sealed, but those are $$$$ and there's the occasional, blue-moon Pauper or Singleton but they're so rare as to hardly consider 'modes of play' in Arena). So Ranked play is all the same top tier decks. And you have to play those too unless you enjoy losing by turn four. I get tired of playing Esper Control sometimes and want to try something janky or a combo deck or even just a halfway decent deck like Esper midrange, but there is no place to play them. Anything else get's crushed fast in Ranked. Even unranked Play mode is all the same tier-1 decks: Monored, monoblue, Esper, Gates, Sultai, Dimir.. on a loop. Sign in to Arena, play one of your tier 1 decks, play 4 games against monored, 2 monoblue and a dimir control, then quit. Janky decks aren't fun to play when your opponent is playing World Championship Mono Red Turn 3 victory deck in the unranked freeplay mode. And I don't know about you guys but I get bored of playing my top tier decks after a while. So what does that leave? The occasional Draft game when I save up enough gold once a week maybe? Draft is fun, but I like deckbuilding and want to play some other games. But right now there's no place for anything else in Arena. So I've just been logging in, doing my daily quest, and leaving... usually feeling "well that was a waste of time" after I'm done. I'd love for this game to make it, but sadly I dont think it's much fun.
Seeing as you have repeatedly shown yourself to be incapable of handling subtlety, I'm going to be blunt. You aren't having fun because you are terrible at the game.
When you just started after jumping over from Hearthstone it was understandable - the game is new, there's a completely different resource system, there's a lot of new effects and timing and all kinds of stuff that HS never touched. Magic is a much more nuanced game, and there's going to be a learning curve. Everyone starts out terrible at the game, but if you take the time to learn and understand the differences, you can do well. Several notable HS players have transitioned to Magic very well even if you don't count Brian Kibler (Who started with MTG, jumped on the HS bandwagon and with Arena has come back to MTG)
You have not done this. Instead you have chosen to complain about every single aspect of magic that you don't like, as if you expect that it will magically change for you. Furthermore, you have not only ignored every attempt by everyone on this website to give you advice, you have made an art form out of deflecting blame from yourself. Lose a game or two because of mana flood or topdecks? Obviously wizards is rigging hands! Lose a game because you ignored a disinformation campaign until drew them 10 cards? Wizards can't balance cards worth a hell, these need to be banned! Get blown out by a pteramander you made no effort to kill because you didn't recognize it for the must-answer threat it clearly is? Magic isn't fun, you're just playing the same tier 1 decks on repeat. Do you honestly listen to yourself when you say these things? It's like listening to a whining 5-year old who got a different toy than the one they wanted and is throwing a temper tantrum, and you should be embarrassed.
And no, magic will not change for you, because you want a game that fundamentally isn't magic. If you were actually GOOD at the game and not stuck in the bronze and silver ranks you would see that the game is incredibly varied, there's easily ten to twelve decks you can run into in plat and mythic with regularity, to say nothing of the meme decks like Rainbow Lich or High Alert Marwyn that still win games because the format is one of the widest open we've seen in five years. If you were actually GOOD at the game you would bring up some of the actual legitimate concerns with Arena going forward instead of Dessy's sponsored crapposts, because there are questions that we want answered that are going to make or break the game in the future. And I find it very likely the reason you were banned was because of these personal failings that you STILL have found a way to maintain aren't your fault.
But you're not good at the game, in fact you seem to take pride in refusing to try to become good. So I'm glad you're finally leaving, because it means the rest of us will suffer a little bit less now that you're gone. #ByeFelicia
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(Was banned from the official forums for this observation, so here it is)
I don't think Competitive Standard is a "fun" way to play Magic. It's good. It has it's place - Seeing the best deck you can create and trying to beat all others is totally a legit way to play the game. However it's not an inherently "fun" experience, especially when that's all you have. Magic offers so many ways to play, but in Arena, since the goal is 'win at all costs' and the only free modes are Ranked and Play, that means in Arena THE game is competitive standard. (There's Draft and Sealed, but those are $$$$ and there's the occasional, blue-moon Pauper or Singleton but they're so rare as to hardly consider 'modes of play' in Arena). So Ranked play is all the same top tier decks. And you have to play those too unless you enjoy losing by turn four. I get tired of playing Esper Control sometimes and want to try something janky or a combo deck or even just a halfway decent deck like Esper midrange, but there is no place to play them. Anything else get's crushed fast in Ranked. Even unranked Play mode is all the same tier-1 decks: Monored, monoblue, Esper, Gates, Sultai, Dimir.. on a loop. Sign in to Arena, play one of your tier 1 decks, play 4 games against monored, 2 monoblue and a dimir control, then quit. Janky decks aren't fun to play when your opponent is playing World Championship Mono Red Turn 3 victory deck in the unranked freeplay mode. And I don't know about you guys but I get bored of playing my top tier decks after a while. So what does that leave? The occasional Draft game when I save up enough gold once a week maybe? Draft is fun, but I like deckbuilding and want to play some other games. But right now there's no place for anything else in Arena. So I've just been logging in, doing my daily quest, and leaving... usually feeling "well that was a waste of time" after I'm done. I'd love for this game to make it, but sadly I dont think it's much fun.
Seeing as you have repeatedly shown yourself to be incapable of handling subtlety, I'm going to be blunt. You aren't having fun because you are terrible at the game.
When you just started after jumping over from Hearthstone it was understandable - the game is new, there's a completely different resource system, there's a lot of new effects and timing and all kinds of stuff that HS never touched. Magic is a much more nuanced game, and there's going to be a learning curve. Everyone starts out terrible at the game, but if you take the time to learn and understand the differences, you can do well. Several notable HS players have transitioned to Magic very well even if you don't count Brian Kibler (Who started with MTG, jumped on the HS bandwagon and with Arena has come back to MTG)
You have not done this. Instead you have chosen to complain about every single aspect of magic that you don't like, as if you expect that it will magically change for you. Furthermore, you have not only ignored every attempt by everyone on this website to give you advice, you have made an art form out of deflecting blame from yourself. Lose a game or two because of mana flood or topdecks? Obviously wizards is rigging hands! Lose a game because you ignored a disinformation campaign until drew them 10 cards? Wizards can't balance cards worth a hell, these need to be banned! Get blown out by a pteramander you made no effort to kill because you didn't recognize it for the must-answer threat it clearly is? Magic isn't fun, you're just playing the same tier 1 decks on repeat. Do you honestly listen to yourself when you say these things? It's like listening to a whining 5-year old who got a different toy than the one they wanted and is throwing a temper tantrum, and you should be embarrassed.
And no, magic will not change for you, because you want a game that fundamentally isn't magic. If you were actually GOOD at the game and not stuck in the bronze and silver ranks you would see that the game is incredibly varied, there's easily ten to twelve decks you can run into in plat and mythic with regularity, to say nothing of the meme decks like Rainbow Lich or High Alert Marwyn that still win games because the format is one of the widest open we've seen in five years. If you were actually GOOD at the game you would bring up some of the actual legitimate concerns with Arena going forward instead of Dessy's sponsored crapposts, because there are questions that we want answered that are going to make or break the game in the future. And I find it very likely the reason you were banned was because of these personal failings that you STILL have found a way to maintain aren't your fault.
But you're not good at the game, in fact you seem to take pride in refusing to try to become good. So I'm glad you're finally leaving, because it means the rest of us will suffer a little bit less now that you're gone. #ByeFelicia
I guess most players suck then. Ended last season in Diamond. And that's not the point of the post. The point is Arena needs more game modes. But you incel gamergate nerds cant see past gentle criticism of any consumer product that you devote your personality too. I'm sorry the mean "sportsball" jocks picked on you in high school because you had acne and smelled like pond water and your only outlet was purchasing consumer goods. Maybe you should join a gym or something. Get out of your gaming chair and comfort zone and improve yourself a bit. Maybe people would like you. Its a big "maybe" I'll grant but I'll be praying for you. There is always hope, even for the most repulsive nerd out there. You just gotta want it and put in the work. A better life cant be purchased at GameStop.
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I don't think Competitive Standard is a "fun" way to play Magic. It's good. It has it's place - Seeing the best deck you can create and trying to beat all others is totally a legit way to play the game. However it's not an inherently "fun" experience, especially when that's all you have. Magic offers so many ways to play, but in Arena, since the goal is 'win at all costs' and the only free modes are Ranked and Play, that means in Arena THE game is competitive standard. (There's Draft and Sealed, but those are $$$$ and there's the occasional, blue-moon Pauper or Singleton but they're so rare as to hardly consider 'modes of play' in Arena). So Ranked play is all the same top tier decks. And you have to play those too unless you enjoy losing by turn four. I get tired of playing Esper Control sometimes and want to try something janky or a combo deck or even just a halfway decent deck like Esper midrange, but there is no place to play them. Anything else get's crushed fast in Ranked. Even unranked Play mode is all the same tier-1 decks: Monored, monoblue, Esper, Gates, Sultai, Dimir.. on a loop. Sign in to Arena, play one of your tier 1 decks, play 4 games against monored, 2 monoblue and a dimir control, then quit. Janky decks aren't fun to play when your opponent is playing World Championship Mono Red Turn 3 victory deck in the unranked freeplay mode. And I don't know about you guys but I get bored of playing my top tier decks after a while. So what does that leave? The occasional Draft game when I save up enough gold once a week maybe? Draft is fun, but I like deckbuilding and want to play some other games. But right now there's no place for anything else in Arena. So I've just been logging in, doing my daily quest, and leaving... usually feeling "well that was a waste of time" after I'm done. I'd love for this game to make it, but sadly I dont think it's much fun.
I am playing unranked with four planeswalker decks from GRN/RNA, which I slowly upgrade from ePacks for gold, and I'm having a lot of fun playing against various decks, and having 20% - 40% win rate.
I don't play ranked or limited (I don't know how to draft), and in the future I probably won't spend any money in game. For me, this approach is enough and fun. For you, maybe not.
This is actually what I would consider fun, and would like to be able to do. But at some point you will probably get tired of a 20% win ratio. Even if you're like "winning doesnt matter to me" it gets boring to play games where you've lost by turn 5 over and over. You want to try out your deck. You want a game that goes on for a couple rounds. You cant get that here.
Other thing is that I don't use wildcards. Maybe the deck strength is also measured by the number of used wildcards.
Seeing as you have repeatedly shown yourself to be incapable of handling subtlety, I'm going to be blunt. You aren't having fun because you are terrible at the game.
When you just started after jumping over from Hearthstone it was understandable - the game is new, there's a completely different resource system, there's a lot of new effects and timing and all kinds of stuff that HS never touched. Magic is a much more nuanced game, and there's going to be a learning curve. Everyone starts out terrible at the game, but if you take the time to learn and understand the differences, you can do well. Several notable HS players have transitioned to Magic very well even if you don't count Brian Kibler (Who started with MTG, jumped on the HS bandwagon and with Arena has come back to MTG)
You have not done this. Instead you have chosen to complain about every single aspect of magic that you don't like, as if you expect that it will magically change for you. Furthermore, you have not only ignored every attempt by everyone on this website to give you advice, you have made an art form out of deflecting blame from yourself. Lose a game or two because of mana flood or topdecks? Obviously wizards is rigging hands! Lose a game because you ignored a disinformation campaign until drew them 10 cards? Wizards can't balance cards worth a hell, these need to be banned! Get blown out by a pteramander you made no effort to kill because you didn't recognize it for the must-answer threat it clearly is? Magic isn't fun, you're just playing the same tier 1 decks on repeat. Do you honestly listen to yourself when you say these things? It's like listening to a whining 5-year old who got a different toy than the one they wanted and is throwing a temper tantrum, and you should be embarrassed.
And no, magic will not change for you, because you want a game that fundamentally isn't magic. If you were actually GOOD at the game and not stuck in the bronze and silver ranks you would see that the game is incredibly varied, there's easily ten to twelve decks you can run into in plat and mythic with regularity, to say nothing of the meme decks like Rainbow Lich or High Alert Marwyn that still win games because the format is one of the widest open we've seen in five years. If you were actually GOOD at the game you would bring up some of the actual legitimate concerns with Arena going forward instead of Dessy's sponsored crapposts, because there are questions that we want answered that are going to make or break the game in the future. And I find it very likely the reason you were banned was because of these personal failings that you STILL have found a way to maintain aren't your fault.
But you're not good at the game, in fact you seem to take pride in refusing to try to become good. So I'm glad you're finally leaving, because it means the rest of us will suffer a little bit less now that you're gone. #ByeFelicia
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I guess most players suck then. Ended last season in Diamond. And that's not the point of the post. The point is Arena needs more game modes. But you incel gamergate nerds cant see past gentle criticism of any consumer product that you devote your personality too. I'm sorry the mean "sportsball" jocks picked on you in high school because you had acne and smelled like pond water and your only outlet was purchasing consumer goods. Maybe you should join a gym or something. Get out of your gaming chair and comfort zone and improve yourself a bit. Maybe people would like you. Its a big "maybe" I'll grant but I'll be praying for you. There is always hope, even for the most repulsive nerd out there. You just gotta want it and put in the work. A better life cant be purchased at GameStop.