That looks far too real to seem fake, heh; and i was gonna say after reading the inital post, they probably don't have April Fools in Panama, and the set comes out next month so its about time...hehe.
Decent card. Early game its pretty much a straight-up hard counter(a bue counter deck is probably not going to have like, 1 card in hand turns 3-5 i don't think). Very nice for a common. A solid, elegant card; I like it
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the only thing that caught my eye was the card number being 50. IF its oppressed will, then 50 seems a little low for O's. but im not a number cruncher so i dont know...
If this is a joke, I may go on a cyber-killing spree :evil3:
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the only thing that caught my eye was the card number being 50. IF its oppressed will, then 50 seems a little low for O's. but im not a number cruncher so i dont know...
Well.....if we assume 30 per color and 15 for artifacts/land.....that puts this at the 20/30, which really isn't bad at all. In fact it's pretty much right on the mark for an O. That leaves 10 for more Os.....some Rs, Ss, Ts.....all that good stuff you'd be calling on wheel of fortune.
Finally.....a Saviors card where we are going to test its existance based on the card number. That's always a good sign. The whole card looks like it was scanned flawlessly, and it's very clear. Good name, good cost, good art, good ability, and most importantly--good saviors logo. I say real.
But once again, I'd hate for this to be a joke. I mean, we've spent the first like 12 hours of the day enjoying April Fool's on mtg.com and on salvation.
Therefore I give it a 99.9% real, and .1% fake.....for insurance.....
Upon taking a close look at that card, I believe it is genuine. But, then again, I've been wrong before.
If it is real, it would be a good card to play. After all, when it comes to drawing extra cards, blue is best.
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Hmm... very hard to call fake on this. Though I'm not quite ready to call real.
As far as the number goes, if you look at Betrayers, Phantom Wings is card #46, so if the card is named "Oppressed Will" 50 is right around where it should be.
The thing that makes me most hesitant is the expansion symbol. It just doesn't quite seem right. Then again, we haven't had a confirmed card yet, so maybe it just seems wrong to me because I'm not used to it. I dunno.
The biggest reason that I'd want to say real though is that as Chimpanzee pointed out, it's not the best idea for a faker to release information on April Fool's day. So after typing all this, I'm ready to call real.
Ah, guys.
Check Quash, for a second. Or Hinder. Or Squelch. Playable or even Good counters, eh? Well, they are all uncommons.
You can even check Circular Logic, if you like. Still, an umcommon.
Do the math.
Ah, guys.
Check Quash, for a second. Or Hinder. Or Squelch. Playable or even Good counters, eh? Well, they are all uncommons.
You can even check Circular Logic, if you like. Still, an umcommon.
Do the math.
I find this fairly funny.....someone provides us with plenty of information about a card, and you say no because it's one rarity level below the 'norm'. If you see what someone mentioned earlier in the thread, they said that the translation indicates that it only counters sorcery spells. It's really not as great as some peopl's first impressions were. Also.....Override was very playable in Mirrodin, and it was common.
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Arguably, two of the best three counters in Standard right now are commons: Mana Leak & Condescend. Just beeing uncommon is not good enough to call it a fake.
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I did notice one discrepency on this card just now. It's in the artwork. More than likely the creature being countered is some kind of spirit. All spirits on Kamigawa have energy objects with them. There are no energy objects present in this picture.
What about those little black things? They might pass as energy objects I suppose.
Looks interesting, the ability to the mana cost seems rather plausible.
Though it may not be that great of a counterspell considering it's 3 casting cost and would be worse as the game goes on.
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i only found the spanish version. SRY :smile3:
For those who doesnt know spanish, the english trantlation is the follow:
Cardname: Oppressed Will - or some...
Cardtype: Instant
Rule Text: Counter target spell unless it controller pay 1 for each card in your hand.
Flavor text: "When Minamo was left, the most younger students find thenselves in a war beyond their skills, and with talents beyond their control"
As a mexican FNM player, i can assure you 2 things. Number 1. Look at the icon, the lamp is different than hte one published here.
On the left of the icon in this card theres something that bothers me.
Second, and most important, FNMs dont give out cards in spanish. Prerelease cards are in english. Promo (FNM) cards are in english. 'Preview' cards, like that fox on CHK, or that ninja on BOK are in english.
thats all i'll say. Happy april fools.
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As a mexican FNM player, i can assure you 2 things. Number 1. Look at the icon, the lamp is different than hte one published here.
The icons look pretty identical to me.
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Second, and most important, FNMs dont give out cards in spanish. Prerelease cards are in english. Promo (FNM) cards are in english. 'Preview' cards, like that fox on CHK, or that ninja on BOK are in english.
I vaguely remember a foreign synod artificer being posted waaay back before Darksteel was out.
The whole prerelease cards with "dead languages" segment is over, right now it's all about alternate art. So, I'm not really sure what the deal with the card is, but it's still certainly plausible.
This isn't going to be a prerelease or FNM promo. It's probably that card they give out to stores as a sneak peek. they did it with Kitsune Healer and Ninja of the Deep Hours in CHK and BOK, respectively. I see no reason to suspect fakery here, though I wish it was fake since I want better cards than this.
I call fake. There just seems something wrong with the font, and like Nushio said, the icon looks odd. Plus why would they release this as a preview card? It doesn't show anything about the set at all except the set symbol and thats not very good marketing. The betrayers one showed off ninjutsu, all this is is a bad counterspell (sure its better then vex but well...most everything is better then vex)
Like they say. If it's 1U then it'll be a little too good. And I'm 99% sure this is real - unless someone finds the art somewhere on the net, I'm sticking to my guns.
I realize this doesn't show off any new Saviors mechanics, but all the evidence is so much in favor of the card. Unless they're trying to imply that Saviors will have a lot to do with cards in your hand.
Oh, and I actually use Vex in my Scepter/discard casual deck :tongue2:
Even if this is a very good fake I am happy, the season has truly begun! Now let me break down my opinions:
Poster: For once it is a poster who has been in the rumor mill before. This is of great but it still seems a little weird, he URL hacks and then suddenly finds a card. Maybe I am just too suspicious but it seems a little weird. Also I am wondering why it was not send to R_E. But the fact that he did not just signed up gives him:
7/10
Name: Shoulds like a magic card to me!
9/10
Art: The art is a little different. What was brought up about the energy objects is strange. Also the art does not seem to really match the card. However the whole Pat Lee thing makes me think it is real even if the art is off a little
6/10
Flavor Text: Erm......It seems real but again the art just does not fit
5/10
Card Abilitys: This seems like a counterspell that would be printed today at that mana cost
8/10
Card number: Ok, souds good
10/10
Symbol: When I first say it the same thing that Sneaky though I thought. It just seems off. I do not know if its too small or what but it does not seem to fit!
2/10
Overall if I say that if I say it in a spoiler I would totally believe it but seeing it in a forum makes me wonder. I have to say it is about a 7/10 to the real.
As I look at that card more, I'm less convinced that it's real. The font seems too small, particularly the 2U part..plus, the Expansion symbol also seems a little bit too small.
The mechanic is convincing -- certainly the style of elegance and style of counterspells used in today's sets. The card is also costed correctly, and at the correct rarity. It seems set up to be reprinted in future sets, considering it isn't arcane and the mechanic is sufficiently simple. The name looks like "Oppressive Will" to me.
After staring at the scan for several minutes, I've found that only two things are still bugging me. One, the expansion symbol -- which appears resized, but this might just be unfamiliarity -- and two, the setup of the scan itself, in which the card is surrounded by white space. Wasn't this an image that was part of some mailing (as opposed to a physical card)? Wasn't it preceded by text, which should appear above it? Shouldn't we see some sort of color or images or text around it? Or am I misunderstanding something? This is the only reason I'm still skeptical.
Decent card. Early game its pretty much a straight-up hard counter(a bue counter deck is probably not going to have like, 1 card in hand turns 3-5 i don't think). Very nice for a common. A solid, elegant card; I like it
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Well.....if we assume 30 per color and 15 for artifacts/land.....that puts this at the 20/30, which really isn't bad at all. In fact it's pretty much right on the mark for an O. That leaves 10 for more Os.....some Rs, Ss, Ts.....all that good stuff you'd be calling on wheel of fortune.
Finally.....a Saviors card where we are going to test its existance based on the card number. That's always a good sign. The whole card looks like it was scanned flawlessly, and it's very clear. Good name, good cost, good art, good ability, and most importantly--good saviors logo. I say real.
But once again, I'd hate for this to be a joke. I mean, we've spent the first like 12 hours of the day enjoying April Fool's on mtg.com and on salvation.
Therefore I give it a 99.9% real, and .1% fake.....for insurance.....
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If it is real, it would be a good card to play. After all, when it comes to drawing extra cards, blue is best.
As far as the number goes, if you look at Betrayers, Phantom Wings is card #46, so if the card is named "Oppressed Will" 50 is right around where it should be.
The thing that makes me most hesitant is the expansion symbol. It just doesn't quite seem right. Then again, we haven't had a confirmed card yet, so maybe it just seems wrong to me because I'm not used to it. I dunno.
The biggest reason that I'd want to say real though is that as Chimpanzee pointed out, it's not the best idea for a faker to release information on April Fool's day. So after typing all this, I'm ready to call real.
Check Quash, for a second. Or Hinder. Or Squelch. Playable or even Good counters, eh? Well, they are all uncommons.
You can even check Circular Logic, if you like. Still, an umcommon.
Do the math.
I find this fairly funny.....someone provides us with plenty of information about a card, and you say no because it's one rarity level below the 'norm'. If you see what someone mentioned earlier in the thread, they said that the translation indicates that it only counters sorcery spells. It's really not as great as some peopl's first impressions were. Also.....Override was very playable in Mirrodin, and it was common.
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Well, that and the fact that Reciprocate looks like it's taking down a Nim :). I'm a fan of both arts, personally.
The rarity issue is absurd, Counterspell's common, Mana Leak's common, and a bunch of other decent counters are as well.
So this card is going to be FNM'd?
Thanks for (what is hopefully) the first Saviors card!
What about those little black things? They might pass as energy objects I suppose.
Though it may not be that great of a counterspell considering it's 3 casting cost and would be worse as the game goes on.
Twinkee
As a mexican FNM player, i can assure you 2 things. Number 1. Look at the icon, the lamp is different than hte one published here.
On the left of the icon in this card theres something that bothers me.
Second, and most important, FNMs dont give out cards in spanish. Prerelease cards are in english. Promo (FNM) cards are in english. 'Preview' cards, like that fox on CHK, or that ninja on BOK are in english.
thats all i'll say. Happy april fools.
The icons look pretty identical to me.
Not entirely true. Go to http://magiccards.info/query/1815482/; many of those prerelease cards are not in english.
The whole prerelease cards with "dead languages" segment is over, right now it's all about alternate art. So, I'm not really sure what the deal with the card is, but it's still certainly plausible.
I realize this doesn't show off any new Saviors mechanics, but all the evidence is so much in favor of the card. Unless they're trying to imply that Saviors will have a lot to do with cards in your hand.
Oh, and I actually use Vex in my Scepter/discard casual deck :tongue2:
I was just recalling a case where there was a card revealed before the release that was, I believe, in Spanish.
Yep, they seem to match up when you shrink down the larger symbol.
As for the card itself, it's quite plausible. I'm going to go with my gut on this one and say real. It worked for Waking Nightmare!
Poster: For once it is a poster who has been in the rumor mill before. This is of great but it still seems a little weird, he URL hacks and then suddenly finds a card. Maybe I am just too suspicious but it seems a little weird. Also I am wondering why it was not send to R_E. But the fact that he did not just signed up gives him:
7/10
Name: Shoulds like a magic card to me!
9/10
Art: The art is a little different. What was brought up about the energy objects is strange. Also the art does not seem to really match the card. However the whole Pat Lee thing makes me think it is real even if the art is off a little
6/10
Flavor Text: Erm......It seems real but again the art just does not fit
5/10
Card Abilitys: This seems like a counterspell that would be printed today at that mana cost
8/10
Card number: Ok, souds good
10/10
Symbol: When I first say it the same thing that Sneaky though I thought. It just seems off. I do not know if its too small or what but it does not seem to fit!
2/10
Overall if I say that if I say it in a spoiler I would totally believe it but seeing it in a forum makes me wonder. I have to say it is about a 7/10 to the real.
MAybe it's just a bad translation? The spell would be ridiculously awful and basically unplayable if it only countered sorceries.
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After staring at the scan for several minutes, I've found that only two things are still bugging me. One, the expansion symbol -- which appears resized, but this might just be unfamiliarity -- and two, the setup of the scan itself, in which the card is surrounded by white space. Wasn't this an image that was part of some mailing (as opposed to a physical card)? Wasn't it preceded by text, which should appear above it? Shouldn't we see some sort of color or images or text around it? Or am I misunderstanding something? This is the only reason I'm still skeptical.
However, studying it in detail makes me hate the new cardface even more. It looks so much less cool.
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