also he seems to be in to comics, not general artwork for like magic and stuff..
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The artist listed on the card has also done Reciprocate which is in the same style so unless someone can find out that Pat Lee has made this art for another purpose it would take awesome faking skills to imitate the art.
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If this card is anything, it is the free promo common that stores usually get really early.
It seems earlier than usual to me, but that might explain why its in Spanish.
I personally can't find anything wrong with the card that would make it a fake one.
Notice how splice seems to work in this cards favor, splicing often leaves for more stuff in your hand and whatnot.
Still, I don't like the card.
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Actually, although the card seems real, the artwork does not. It looks like the artwork on Mirrodin cards, which take place on a completely differant plain. Looking at the artwork, the only think that that being could be is a Kami, but it doesn't look much like the Kami I've seen...
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thanks MC_2442_, i think that the card is real it looks and feels real and isn't the kind of card that people would want to make up(it's too boring). as for the artwork, it is easily as kamigawa block as the art for quash was.
the card itself is simple and rarely going to be of any use, in constructed you don't want a counter which won't work because you're opponent made you discard your hand(even vex is better as a 2U counter) and in limited even if you're playing blue you're playing a creature based deck and won't have the cards in hand to make it work and even if you did you'd prefer a creature over it.
All in all I think it is genuine. The strong points are the art (nobody has proven it to be not-original) and the flavor-text. Also, the 'cards in hand'-mechanic might be a set-specific for Saviors.
The actual English name might equally well be "Suppressed Decision", or something like that, though.
This seems just a remake (uninspired, at that) of the 'CC matters' theme of Scourge.
BTW, wasn't the preview common for Scourge Torrent of Fire? A card with no named mechanic on it, but that did show us a theme of the set.
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Asfor the card, it's definitely better than Vex, but it fails to Mana Leak...
On average, we're to assume you have about 4 cards in hand... as you are, after all, playing blue... Blue likes to keep cards in hand...
You play this card, and thus it's a mana leak for more...
How sad...
At this point in time, I'd be happy with a hard counter that simply costed :1mana::symu::symu:...
Asfor the card, it's definitely better than Vex, but it fails to Mana Leak...
On average, we're to assume you have about 4 cards in hand... as you are, after all, playing blue... Blue likes to keep cards in hand...
You play this card, and thus it's a mana leak for more...
How sad...
At this point in time, I'd be happy with a hard counter that simply costed :1mana::symu::symu:...
Actually when you play the card, assuming you have 4 cards in your hand BEFORE you played the card, you should pay 3, not 4.
I guess you meant "when you play the card, you have 4 cards left", therefore, you do have to pay 4, if you do, sorry :biggrin3:
Edit: I think it is a good card, actually, Condescend, as a card that is very similar to this, can be very useful in some cases even when you pay 1U, example:
Your opponent plays Yukora, The Prisoner (in turn 4, 5 swamps), and you have 3 mana available, and 3 cards in your hand, you play {thatcard} (i forgot the name), and your opponent needs to pay 2, so its very useful!
Because it's in Spanish. That's been addressed earlier on, and it was confirmed that Spanish doesn't capitalise the second word (at least not on magic cards).
Actually, I think that by refering to 'losing a hand' is that he's maybe hinting at Discard Week. I don't think they'd talk about a major aspect of Saviors one month before previews.
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First, the idea behid a fake its to make a great fuss, if youre taking the time to make such a great counterfeit you can make an awesome creature, sorcery or even come up with a weird mechanic.
Second, the website that shows this card (www.magicpanama.com) looks serious and has a lot more information about tournament dates, ptq standings, news, articles, etc. Its not a fake page used only to promote this "counterfeit".
Third, theres is no such thing as aprils fools day in Latin America, we get a called "Dia de los Inocentes" some day in december for some countries. Its just a coincidence that www.magicpanama.com showed the card that day.
Lastly, its a janky counter, a card you dont want to get in topdeck mode, its par with all the crappy counters WOTC is throwing at us.
i think it's real. the only thing that makes me wonder: if it is indeed the promo card for Saviors, why doesn't it show off a new ability/mechanic like the previous ones have? possibly it's something special for the latino market, but it just seems strange they'd pick a fairly average card that doesn't do anything "new."
FFS, it's fake. Look at the formatting on it. It's not visually clean. It's a very good fake - an excellent fake - but the alignment of the text isn't quite right, and more than that, FFS people, it's not even a scan of a card. It's something anyone could put together in Photoshop with enough time and patience.
FFS, it's fake. Look at the formatting on it. It's not visually clean. It's a very good fake - an excellent fake - but the alignment of the text isn't quite right, and more than that, FFS people, it's not even a scan of a card. It's something anyone could put together in Photoshop with enough time and patience.
I know this may be a bit of an inconvenience, you'll see that almost every sginle argument against the cards existance has been kinda shot down, or almost stifled. The last 5 pages or so seem to say that they feel the card is real. I'm just saying this because it seems that you're very confident in your decision that it's fake, even though it's gotten props from a LOT of people.
What's funny, is that it is actually visually clean. It looks very real. If this is fake I'm going to :puke: all over the place. Of course I can't say I've never done that.....one fateful night after too much to drink and closing my eyes for too long.....
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Well, it looks real to me ( but lets face it, its my 2nd post....dosent matter what i thnk at this point.....some day ill have more posts! and ill count!) but one hting bothers me about this. Its not he card itself, it looks real, well costed, well scanned, its just....this came from a magizine right? Shouldent someone else have gotten this magizine by now? im not saying that i think this is fake ( I actully think its real), this just seems odd.
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Nice find, if it's real. It's at least mildly playable. But like others have said, it WAS posted on April 1. ...I hate being away from the internet for a few days...
What we're doing here is akin to taking the text of Moby Dick, locating specific words therein, rearranging them to create a passage from Fight Club, and concluding from this evidence that Tyler Durden is based on Ahab.
Not if the symbol were anti-aliased like the rest of the card.
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also he seems to be in to comics, not general artwork for like magic and stuff..
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It seems earlier than usual to me, but that might explain why its in Spanish.
I personally can't find anything wrong with the card that would make it a fake one.
Notice how splice seems to work in this cards favor, splicing often leaves for more stuff in your hand and whatnot.
Still, I don't like the card.
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the card itself is simple and rarely going to be of any use, in constructed you don't want a counter which won't work because you're opponent made you discard your hand(even vex is better as a 2U counter) and in limited even if you're playing blue you're playing a creature based deck and won't have the cards in hand to make it work and even if you did you'd prefer a creature over it.
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All in all I think it is genuine. The strong points are the art (nobody has proven it to be not-original) and the flavor-text. Also, the 'cards in hand'-mechanic might be a set-specific for Saviors.
The actual English name might equally well be "Suppressed Decision", or something like that, though.
BTW, wasn't the preview common for Scourge Torrent of Fire? A card with no named mechanic on it, but that did show us a theme of the set.
Ability is just crappy enough for it to see print. At 2 it would be a good counterspell, but we can't print any good counters, can we?
But then again, what the @#$% did he imply with that 'Myopic Bushman?'
Good call indeed...
Asfor the card, it's definitely better than Vex, but it fails to Mana Leak...
On average, we're to assume you have about 4 cards in hand... as you are, after all, playing blue... Blue likes to keep cards in hand...
You play this card, and thus it's a mana leak for more...
How sad...
At this point in time, I'd be happy with a hard counter that simply costed :1mana::symu::symu:...
Actually when you play the card, assuming you have 4 cards in your hand BEFORE you played the card, you should pay 3, not 4.
I guess you meant "when you play the card, you have 4 cards left", therefore, you do have to pay 4, if you do, sorry :biggrin3:
Edit: I think it is a good card, actually, Condescend, as a card that is very similar to this, can be very useful in some cases even when you pay 1U, example:
Your opponent plays Yukora, The Prisoner (in turn 4, 5 swamps), and you have 3 mana available, and 3 cards in your hand, you play {thatcard} (i forgot the name), and your opponent needs to pay 2, so its very useful!
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Cuando mi sangre corra
Cuando a tu memoria llegue
Y domine en la penumbra
O el caos termine..."
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Uh, when he said it was a "Mana Leak for 1 more" I believe he meant 1 more to play, not 1 more for your opponent to pay.
Because it's in Spanish. That's been addressed earlier on, and it was confirmed that Spanish doesn't capitalise the second word (at least not on magic cards).
Actually, I think that by refering to 'losing a hand' is that he's maybe hinting at Discard Week. I don't think they'd talk about a major aspect of Saviors one month before previews.
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First, the idea behid a fake its to make a great fuss, if youre taking the time to make such a great counterfeit you can make an awesome creature, sorcery or even come up with a weird mechanic.
Second, the website that shows this card (www.magicpanama.com) looks serious and has a lot more information about tournament dates, ptq standings, news, articles, etc. Its not a fake page used only to promote this "counterfeit".
Third, theres is no such thing as aprils fools day in Latin America, we get a called "Dia de los Inocentes" some day in december for some countries. Its just a coincidence that www.magicpanama.com showed the card that day.
Lastly, its a janky counter, a card you dont want to get in topdeck mode, its par with all the crappy counters WOTC is throwing at us.
I know this may be a bit of an inconvenience, you'll see that almost every sginle argument against the cards existance has been kinda shot down, or almost stifled. The last 5 pages or so seem to say that they feel the card is real. I'm just saying this because it seems that you're very confident in your decision that it's fake, even though it's gotten props from a LOT of people.
What's funny, is that it is actually visually clean. It looks very real. If this is fake I'm going to :puke: all over the place. Of course I can't say I've never done that.....one fateful night after too much to drink and closing my eyes for too long.....
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No, I showed it was a fake using real reasons.
Can we get this closed now?
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