search
library
shuffle
reveal (i know...)
card
hand
hits:
search 6
library 19
shuffle 4
reveal 8 (splice = 8. splice appears twice on a card, so 4 of 8 reveals can be on non-splice)
card 48 (yummy for hans size aka wisdom)
hand 97 (ditto)
that means that there's a maximum of 4 tutors in sok. remember that black tutors often don't require to reveal.
now, i'm sure there's possible to find out what they tutor for too
other words:
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and yay for shapeshifter !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111
That is a bit odd considering that except for Patron of the Kitsune and Patron of the Akki there has not been a card that uses "Akki" or "Kitsune" without being a goblin or fox, respectively. And a card like those would have counted as a hit, because of the offering. Now the Akki thing doesn't strike me as odd, there could easily be a burn spell with Akki in the title. But 3 extra Kitsune cards? That seems strange, especially considering that it is not all that likely that every fox will have Kitsune in its name. I'm not sure what this means, but it is something.
Equip gets 4 hits, while Equipment only gets 3. We're getting a card that messes with equipment, maybe increaseing or decreasing cost. Equipped gets 2 hits.....a bit more weird. Sepculate away on that one.
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Equip gets 4 hits, while Equipment only gets 3. We're getting a card that messes with equipment, maybe increaseing or decreasing cost. Equipped gets 2 hits.....a bit more weird. Sepculate away on that one.
Perhaps there is an equipment that only cares that it is equipped to something. In this case it might read "As long as ~ is attached to a creature..." and thus avoid using the word equipped. It could even be more specific such as "As long as ~ is attached to a spirit..." or "As long as ~ is attached to a white creature..."
Also, one of those equipments is almost certainly Manriki-Gusari, which just leaves 2 I guess.
Those ain't Black/White Knight arts we've got. Yeah, we probably already concluded that, but still.
Well the thought was that they were a Black/White Samurai with similar abilities. let's further explore...
Protection - 2
From - 50
Red - 3
Black - 4
White - 2
Blue - 2
Green - 3
Artifacts - 1
Colors - 0
Color - 0
All - 14
Choice - 2
based on thier being two "protection" hits, i'd still say it's possible. it is interesting that the color words are quite frequent... but i suppose that would be for things like "add one green mana to your mana pool" etc...
Actually "Creature - Kirin Spirit" makes perfect sense. Look at the dragons, they're closer to what the Kirins than the Myojin are.
Except that Dragon is already an established creature type, whereas Kirin is not. If they were going to give it another creature type I think that Unicorn would be more likely, as it is already a creature type. So it's more likely that the Kirin reference themselves in their rules text.
Except that Dragon is already an established creature type, whereas Kirin is not. If they were going to give it another creature type I think that Unicorn would be more likely, as it is already a creature type. So it's more likely that the Kirin reference themselves in their rules text.
Kodama - 0
Kodama's - 0
That's right, no Kodama of East or West tree, no Kodama anything.
Michiko - 1
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New Rules come out for 1999 6th Edition... "THEY'RE TURNING MAGIC INTO PORTAL! THE GAME IS RUINED! EVERYONE PETITION AND GET THEM TO CHANGE IT BACK!"
New Rules come out for 2010 Edition... "THEY'RE TURNING MAGIC INTO YU-GI-OH! THE GAME IS RUINED! EVERYONE PETITION AND GET THEM TO CHANGE IT BACK!"
New Rules come out for *Reserved for something in 2020* "THEY'RE TURNING MAGIC INTO *currently "simple" game by the more "skilled" players*! THE GAME IS..." etc.
I have been trying all the past legendary names we know. I think I found a possible cycles of names, but I can't find the blue one:
Dosan's - 1 (G)
Konda's - 1 (W)
Godo's - 1 (R)
Kiku's - 1 (B)
Not sure what the blue one is, tried Chisei's, Higure's, Kira's, Azami's, Hisoka's, and Meloku's. It might be a blue legend we havn't seen yet.
Possibly some nifty coming into play triggers that are conditional like the myojin? Perhaps as a foil to the dragons the kirin cycle are "comes into play" triggers?
Soulshift: 7
Return: 40
Wisdom: 1 (possibly ____'s Wisdom - a card drawer?)
beginning: 22
end: 44
of: 173
turn: 56
upkeep: 16
Kakkazan: 0 (sad... I really wanted to see his card)
Great: 0
Kami: 10
mountain: 0!
fire: 3
Upkeep: 16
Untap: 6
Step: 3
Draw: 13
Combat: 4
Damage: 29
End: 44
Turn: 56
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first, which words appear on all tutor cards:
search
library
shuffle
reveal (i know...)
card
hand
hits:
search 6
library 19
shuffle 4
reveal 8 (splice = 8. splice appears twice on a card, so 4 of 8 reveals can be on non-splice)
card 48 (yummy for hans size aka wisdom)
hand 97 (ditto)
that means that there's a maximum of 4 tutors in sok. remember that black tutors often don't require to reveal.
now, i'm sure there's possible to find out what they tutor for too
other words:
skip - 0
and yay for shapeshifter !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111
Those ain't Black/White Knight arts we've got. Yeah, we probably already concluded that, but still.
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Rat - 4
Nezumi - 2 (Pretty Normal)
Moonfolk - 4
Soratami - 3 (Again, normal)
Snake - 6
Orochi - 2 (Still normal)
And yet:
Goblin - 2
Akki - 3
Fox - 4
Kitsune - 7
That is a bit odd considering that except for Patron of the Kitsune and Patron of the Akki there has not been a card that uses "Akki" or "Kitsune" without being a goblin or fox, respectively. And a card like those would have counted as a hit, because of the offering. Now the Akki thing doesn't strike me as odd, there could easily be a burn spell with Akki in the title. But 3 extra Kitsune cards? That seems strange, especially considering that it is not all that likely that every fox will have Kitsune in its name. I'm not sure what this means, but it is something.
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Kirin 10x
Samurai 11x
BBB Costing thingy 1x
WW Costing thingy 1x
UU Costing thingy 4x
R Costhing thingy 36x (nothing above R (so RR or bigger))
5GGG Costhing thing 2x (yeah the green Kirin prolly)
So the Kirins are quite expensive...
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Edit:
Some more thingies
Defender 1x
Haste 7x
Damage 29x
Gain 12x
Look 1x
Remove 9x
Vigilance 2x
Protection 2x
So yeah its still possible... perhaps 2 Samurai's with Vigilance and protection for WW ?
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Perhaps there is an equipment that only cares that it is equipped to something. In this case it might read "As long as ~ is attached to a creature..." and thus avoid using the word equipped. It could even be more specific such as "As long as ~ is attached to a spirit..." or "As long as ~ is attached to a white creature..."
Also, one of those equipments is almost certainly Manriki-Gusari, which just leaves 2 I guess.
A few others:
Michiko-1
Death-3
jitte: 0
sword: 0
daito: 0
shoto: 0
dagger: 0
fan: 0 (wasn't there something about a fan somewhere?)
tessen: 0 (a fan)
naginata: 0
flail: 0
scythe: 0
sai: 0
kama: 0
shield: 0
katana: 0
wakizashi: 0
tanto: 0
bow: 0
spear: 0
yumi: 0
yari: 0
shuriken: 0
kunai: 0
daisho: 0
hachiwari: 0
manrikigusari: 0
shakuhachi: 0
kansashi: 0
chokuto: 0
What have I missed???
Well the thought was that they were a Black/White Samurai with similar abilities. let's further explore...
Protection - 2
From - 50
Red - 3
Black - 4
White - 2
Blue - 2
Green - 3
Artifacts - 1
Colors - 0
Color - 0
All - 14
Choice - 2
based on thier being two "protection" hits, i'd still say it's possible. it is interesting that the color words are quite frequent... but i suppose that would be for things like "add one green mana to your mana pool" etc...
also:
plainswalk - 0
swampwalk - 0
forestwalk - 0
mountainwalk - 0
islandwalk - 0
landwalk - 1
Manriki-Gusari. With a dash. Other than that, I can't say for certain. Perhaps they aren't weapons.
Yuki-onna: Legendary creature - Elemental Spirit!!!
Damn I'm down for the orb...
Just checked mulitcolored costs (RG, GW, WU, UB, BR, etc) and came up nil, I'm off to search fo' mo'
And it hit... I missed this earlier.
Manriki-Gusari: 1
Some more:
Return-40
Soratami-3
Sweep-4
Control-35
Actually "Creature - Kirin Spirit" makes perfect sense. Look at the dragons, they're closer to what the Kirins than the Myojin are.
Except that Dragon is already an established creature type, whereas Kirin is not. If they were going to give it another creature type I think that Unicorn would be more likely, as it is already a creature type. So it's more likely that the Kirin reference themselves in their rules text.
Easy way to verify that:
unicorn - 0
W = 33
WW = 1
1WW = 2
2W = 5
2WW = 3
3W = 3
3WW = 1
4W = 3
5WW = 1
XW = 1
U = 34
1U = 6
UU = 4
2U = 4
3U = 7
2UU = 7
4U = 2
3UU = 1
4UU = 2
4UUU = 1
7UUU = 1
B = 32
BB = 2
1B = 6
BBB = 1
1BB = 1
2B = 3
2BB = 4
3B = 5
3BB = 1
4B = 5
4BB = 1
5B = 1
5BB = 1
XBB = 1
R = 36
1R = 2
2R = 9
1RR = 1
3R = 5
2RR =5
4R = 1
3RR = 2
5R = 3
4RR = 2
3RRR = 1
XR = 1
G = 32
1G = 2
GG = 0
2G = 7
1GG = 3
3G = 4
2GG = 4
4G = 3
3GG = 3
4GG = 1
3GGG = 1
5GG = 1
5GGG = 2
XG = 1
1 = 22
2 = 24
3 = 13
4 = 12
5 = 3
6 = 1
7 = 3
8 = 1
10 = 2
X = 23
One = 9
Two = 4
Three = 10
Four = 4
0/0 = 2
0/1 = 2
0/2 = 1
1/1 = 21
1/2 = 3
1/3 = 2
2/1 = 11
2/2 = 12
2/3 = 7
2/4 = 1
3/1 = 3
3/2 = 2
3/3 = 15
3/4 = 1
4/1 = 1
4/3 = 2
4/4 = 4
4/5 = 1
5/4 = 1
5/5 = 2
6/4 = 1
6/5 = 1
7/3 = 1
8/8 = 1
+0/+1 = 1
+1/+0 = 2
+1/+1 = 17
+1/+2 = 2
+2/+0 = 1
+2/+2 = 6
+3/+3 = 1
+4/+4 = 1
+X/+X = 1
White = 2
Blue = 2
Black = 4
Red = 3
Green = 3
Colorless = 3
Swamp = 2
Swamps = 1
Plains = 4
Mountains = 2
Artifact = 15
Sorcery = 26
Instant = 26
Creature = 178
Enchantment = 17
Land = 23
Legendary = 44
Advisor = 3
Akki = 3
Archer = 1
Beast = 1
Cleric = 2
Demon = 6
Elemental = 1
Fox = 4
Goblin = 2
Human = 23
Kami = 10
Kirin = 10
Kitsune = 7
Nezumi = 2
Monk = 7
Moonfolk = 4
Ogre = 8
Orochi = 2
Rat = 4
Rogue = 1
Samurai = 11
Shaman = 7
Shapeshifter = 1
Snake = 6
Snakes = 1
Soratami = 3
Spirit = 75
Warrior = 7
Wizard = 7
Zubera = 7
Trample = 2
Haste = 7
Double = 1
First = 14
Strike = 4
Flying = 27
Vigilance = 2
Landwalk = 1
Defender = 1
Bushido: 10
Fear = 1
Epic = 10
Arcane = 44
Splice = 8
Soulshift = 7
Dosan's = 1
Eiganjo = 1
Godo = 3
Godo's = 1
Goryo = 1
Jukai = 1
Kashi-Tribe = 2
Kiku's = 1
Konda = 1
Konda's = 1
Matsu-Tribe = 3
Michiko = 1
Minamo = 3
Okina = 2
Oni = 2
Reito = 1
Ronin = 1
Sakura-Tribe = 1
Shinen = 12
Takenuma = 1
Yuki-Onna = 3
Ability = 10
Abilities = 3
Activated = 1
All = 14
Another = 1
Attach = 2
Attack = 3
Attacking = 3
Attacks = 1
Beginning = 22
Block = 9
Blocked = 12
Blocking = 1
Blocks = 11
Bottom = 1
Can't = 16
Card = 48
Cards = 56
Change = 1
Charge = 1
Choose = 8
Combat = 4
Control = 35
Converted = 16
Copy = 11
Cost = 22
Counter = 8
Counters = 4
Damage = 29
Deals = 22
Dealt = 7
Destroy = 6
Discard = 16
Doesn’t = 3
Draw = 13
Draws = 3
Effects = 4
Enchant = 3
Enchanted = 5
End = 44
Equip = 4
Equipment = 3
Equipped = 2
Exchange = 1
Flip = 4
Flipped = 1
From = 50
Gain = 12
Game = 13
Graveyard = 30
Hand = 97
Have = 18
Less = 9
Library = 19
Life = 21
Look = 1
Lose = 4
Mana = 27
May = 35
New = 4
Nonland = 2
Non-Spirit = 1
Number = 25
Of = 173
Only = 6
Onto = 4
Opponent = 15
Owner's = 25
Pay = 6
Pays = 5
Permanent = 3
Permanents = 2
Play = 78
Played = 5
Player = 35
Pool = 6
Prevent = 4
Protection = 2
Put = 31
Regenerate = 4
Remove = 9
Return = 40
Reveal = 8
Sacrifice = 14
Sacrifices = 5
Search = 6
Shuffle = 4
Spells = 7
Spirits = 2
Still = 2
Tap = 7
Tapped = 1
Target = 78
The = 124
Time = 2
Token = 5
Top = 7
Turn = 56
Untap = 6
Up = 2
Upkeep = 16
When = 32
Whenever = 28
Where = 11
Misc.
Wisdom = 1
Blood = 3
Life's = 3
Fire = 3
Feral = 1
Shadow = 1
Calm = 1
Flames = 2
Garden = 2
Godo's = 3
Moon = 1
Light = 3
Death = 3
Manriki-Gusari = 1
Warrior = 7
Strength = 1
Honor = 1
Moth = 2
Mothrider = 1
Sky = 2
Palace = 2
Seeker = 1
Death = 3
Plow = 1
Under = 1
High = 4
Ruin = 1
Long = 6
Clock = 1
Channel = 12
Earth = 2
Beyond = 1
Sea = 1
Wild = 1
Born = 2
Ivory = 1
Last = 3
Eternal = 1
Artists
Guay = 3
Post = 2
Walker = 7
Kev = 7
Avon = 2
Beard = 2
Garletts = 2
Nelson = 4
Parente = 7
Venters = 4
Staples = 2
Alexander = 4
Baxa = 3
Fischer = 3
Hudson = 3
Cavotta = 3
Hildebrandt = 7
Thompson = 5
Puddnhead - 2
Kodama's - 0
That's right, no Kodama of East or West tree, no Kodama anything.
Michiko - 1
Dosan's - 1 (G)
Konda's - 1 (W)
Godo's - 1 (R)
Kiku's - 1 (B)
Not sure what the blue one is, tried Chisei's, Higure's, Kira's, Azami's, Hisoka's, and Meloku's. It might be a blue legend we havn't seen yet.
Also...
Hidetsugu's - 2
Jukai - 1
Minamo - 3
Possibly some nifty coming into play triggers that are conditional like the myojin? Perhaps as a foil to the dragons the kirin cycle are "comes into play" triggers?
Soulshift: 7
Return: 40
Wisdom: 1 (possibly ____'s Wisdom - a card drawer?)
beginning: 22
end: 44
of: 173
turn: 56
upkeep: 16
Kakkazan: 0 (sad... I really wanted to see his card)
Great: 0
Kami: 10
mountain: 0!
fire: 3
another find -
moth: 2
mothrider: 1