True, but now that there are combos (not that any can be exploited, as he still costs 5), it means that the ability doesn't work 100% functionally correct.
I think it should have stayed as it was...
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While netdecking and testing VileHorror i thought about Biorhythm. Sure its really expensive, off-color and crappy but still you're always the one with creatures while playing VH. That made me think.
Presumably, it'll go the way of Soraya the Falconer once the remaining two (non-Un) heroes are eradicated, namely Beast Walkers and Kjeldoran Warrior. What creature type will pump them, however, is left to be guessed.
I guess they could errata aysen crusader to be pumped for each soldier, but if that happens, it would go from unplayable to soldier deck staple. @_@
I realize that Order of the Ebon Hand has a version that has centaur art, but it still bothers me that it is getting errataed to "Cleric Knight" when Order of Leitbur is getting errataed to "Human Cleric Knight."
The card that bothers me more, though, is Dragon Engine. Considering that they are errataing Phyrexian War Beast to a Beast, and Elder Land Wurm to a Dragon Wurm, and considering that Draco and Tek are ALREADY Dragons, Dragon Engine, which has the word in its name, should have the Dragon type, not just get errataed to a Construct. It's not like the art is confusing on this.
I guess they could errata aysen crusader to be pumped for each soldier, but if that happens, it would go from unplayable to soldier deck staple. @_@
The other two heroes, Beast Walkers and Kjeldoran Warrior, both seem more like Warriors than Soldiers. They might errata Aysen Crusader to be pumped for Warriors rather than Soldiers, though I do think Soldiers is more likely because a Crusader seems more like a Soldier than a Warrior to me.
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Most of these are quite natural, but I could have sworn Adun Oakenshield was a dwarf. Order of the Ebon Hand aren't humans, though... just a Cleric Knight.
Most of these are quite natural, but I could have sworn Adun Oakenshield was a dwarf. Order of the Ebon Hand aren't humans, though... just a Cleric Knight.
That's because one in three is a centaur. Since different versions of the card show a different race, any race they could choose would be inaccurate.
Plus they should have only one picture (I'm hoping version 2) of it online. So they chose their favorite and went off types from that. It kind of makes things look bad for the non-human order, but what can you do?
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I am so pissed that wizards always does this. Their policy is to try and make cards function as close to thier original wordings as possible, and to not add power-level erratta.
I think that the creature retyping does both of these. Some creatures like the fallen, were not made a zombie on purpose by richard garfield because he thought it would be too good. I dont care if that isnt the case, the functionality changes, and so does the power level!
Eater of the dead's errata is being recalled... its updated in the artical on MTG.com's main page.
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Well, this turned out to be not as streamlined as I thought. I completely missed the massive functional change this new wording would have in interactions with effects that allowed you to tap Eater of the Dead for some effect (such as Flame Fusillade or Fire Whip): you could go infinite by targeting the same creature card in a graveyard over and over as you played the two abilities in response to one another. So this proposed errata simply won¹t happen, and Eater of the Dead will keep its current wording. Thanks to everyone who pointed this out!
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(U/B) is :symbu: or :symub: and the same is true for the other 9 hybrid symbols with their two colors in for the last 2 leters of the code. ((2/B) and co are :sym2b:)
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Oakenshield isn't a dwarf, when have you ever seen a dwarf on a horse? His legs also look to be, if anything longer then his torso. Plus he is proportional with the folks behind him, and they have what look to be pikes.
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when is the update going to happen? is there an easy way to view JUST the most recent changes once it does?
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I never noticed the flavor text is a play off of Apocalypse now, and its Knight of Stromgald saying it.
As far as the erratas, the dragon engine one doesnt make much sense as people have stated...
but the eater of the dead attempted change is what is wrong with current errata...Time Vault is going to be a good card somehow just let it be stop trying to decide what a card should do.
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hey thanks! just what i needed.
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I believe the reason they didnt change the eater was because it made a degenrate combo with flaming fusilade.
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Im pretty sure it would be degenrate type 1 and legacy but all the other degenerate things would balance it out
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I am so pissed that wizards always does this. Their policy is to try and make cards function as close to thier original wordings as possible, and to not add power-level erratta.
I think that the creature retyping does both of these. Some creatures like the fallen, were not made a zombie on purpose by richard garfield because he thought it would be too good. I dont care if that isnt the case, the functionality changes, and so does the power level!
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Creature types were not very importent in the early years of magic. Getting a swamp walking fallen that can regen is not very powerful anyway.
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I think it should have stayed as it was...
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That is a good point. No more Hero tribal anymore. lol.
Aysen Crusader is going the way of Soraya the Falconer.
Since they made the Hero a soldier, the crusader should care about soldiers as well.
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I guess they could errata aysen crusader to be pumped for each soldier, but if that happens, it would go from unplayable to soldier deck staple. @_@
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I realize that Order of the Ebon Hand has a version that has centaur art, but it still bothers me that it is getting errataed to "Cleric Knight" when Order of Leitbur is getting errataed to "Human Cleric Knight."
The card that bothers me more, though, is Dragon Engine. Considering that they are errataing Phyrexian War Beast to a Beast, and Elder Land Wurm to a Dragon Wurm, and considering that Draco and Tek are ALREADY Dragons, Dragon Engine, which has the word in its name, should have the Dragon type, not just get errataed to a Construct. It's not like the art is confusing on this.
Just wait for Yawgatog to compile the changes on his site. He always does an awesome job.
The other two heroes, Beast Walkers and Kjeldoran Warrior, both seem more like Warriors than Soldiers. They might errata Aysen Crusader to be pumped for Warriors rather than Soldiers, though I do think Soldiers is more likely because a Crusader seems more like a Soldier than a Warrior to me.
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Plus they should have only one picture (I'm hoping version 2) of it online. So they chose their favorite and went off types from that. It kind of makes things look bad for the non-human order, but what can you do?
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I think that the creature retyping does both of these. Some creatures like the fallen, were not made a zombie on purpose by richard garfield because he thought it would be too good. I dont care if that isnt the case, the functionality changes, and so does the power level!
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Fnord if you could update your first post to reflect Eater of the Dead not being functionally changed that will be great.
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I never noticed the flavor text is a play off of Apocalypse now, and its Knight of Stromgald saying it.
As far as the erratas, the dragon engine one doesnt make much sense as people have stated...
but the eater of the dead attempted change is what is wrong with current errata...Time Vault is going to be a good card somehow just let it be stop trying to decide what a card should do.
hey thanks! just what i needed.
The combo might be degenerate in T2 but luckily hes not legal there.
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Creature types were not very importent in the early years of magic. Getting a swamp walking fallen that can regen is not very powerful anyway.
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