Keep in mind that they might not be in the first set. Recent examples: Radha, Jhoira.
Pardon, but I am not sure if I get the sense of this sentence.
We have the names from the poster (assuming that all the named cards are in LOR), and BlueNu confirms that these names match the names from the novel - the conclusion is that they are in LOR, and they are possibly legendary.
Pardon, but I am not sure if I get the sense of this sentence.
We have the names from the poster (assuming that all the named cards are in LOR), and BlueNu confirms that these names match the names from the novel - the conclusion is that they are in LOR, and they are possibly legendary.
I was referring to the important characters from the novel which aren't on the posters.
Counter target spell.
You may remove a merfolk card in your hand from the game and pay one life instead of paying ~ casting cost
I am actually thinking we will see a continuition of card shifting and reprints ala Time Spiral for a while. Like maybe a black Llanowar Elf that makes black mana. They could print this Force of Will variant without it being broken at all, and still being effective enough of a card to warrant play. Maybe making some sort of Fish (with actuall fisf) decently playable in Extended.
Remove ~ from the game
Until end of turn, you may play Merfolk cards in your graveyard as if they were in your hand. Whenever a card would be put in your graveyard this turn, remove it from the game instead.
Black mana making elf? There is two that do make it but one is green/black and the other deals 1 damage to you. Maybe just remake one of them.
This set isn't going to mess with the colour pie like the last set. Just like after this set they aren't going to make a tribal set.
They already are messing with the color pie. We have Black Goblins and Black elves (seen before, but rarely one every few blocks) and we have black Faeries (definately against the normal pie) and Merfolk have never been any color than blue (except the half goblin one)
And the Force of Will variant has nothing to do with the Color Pie.
As for the black mana elves...they are all location specific in name and cannot be in Lor as a result.
They already are messing with the color pie. We have Black Goblins and Black elves (seen before, but rarely one every few blocks) and we have black Faeries (definately against the normal pie) and Merfolk have never been any color than blue (except the half goblin one)
Creature types don't belong to a specific area of the color pie. You could have white golbins, blue goblins, etc. and still not mess with the color pie. Creature types have NOTHING to do with the color pie.
For example, have you heard the argument that if they were ever to reprint Giant Shark, it would be Green, not Blue. The color pie describes personality and beliefs, not physical form.
That is because Giant Sharks ability is a green ability, not because Sharks should be green. Creatures are definately tied to specific colors and rarely spill without good reason.
Creature types often represent Personality and Beliefs.
One of the many flaws with the last tribal block is that the standard Tribal color pie made for some very narrow Tribal design it its creatures. They are spilling the tribes into multiple colors this block, many outside of where they would normally be.
That is because Giant Sharks ability is a green ability, not because Sharks should be green. Creatures are definately tied to specific colors and rarely spill without good reason.
No, its because they aren't defining color by area of residence anymore, or creature type. Sure, there will be more green elves than any other color, more red goblins, etc. because in the game, your average elf embodies green ideals, and your average goblin red ideals. That doesn't mean you can't have the occasional elf or goblin that embodies the ideals of a different color.
I agree, the occaisional is fine. This is an entire block, big difference. Half the Goblins are Black, Half the Elves are Black, Half the Faeries are black, Half the Giants are White, etc.
I agree, the occaisional is fine. This is an entire block, big difference. Half the Goblins are Black, Half the Elves are Black, Half the Faeries are black, Half the Giants are White, etc.
Different planet, different social evolution. Look at it this way: The human 'tribe' is spread across all five colors, even though it is most prevalent in White. Why, then, when other races or tribes adopt different values and beliefs on a different planet, are we so quick to say they're messing with the color pie?
That is because Giant Sharks ability is a green ability, not because Sharks should be green. Creatures are definately tied to specific colors and rarely spill without good reason.
Creature types often represent Personality and Beliefs.
What if it was a land shark?
And for those of you under the age of . . . well, I don't even know what age to use.
Humans are the generic race in Magic. In Fantasy settings, humans always seem to be spread among every alignment and every terrain, and every theology. They cannot be used as an example of how other races can be spread over different colors.
Humans are the generic race in Magic. In Fantasy settings, humans always seem to be spread among every alignment and every terrain, and every theology. They cannot be used as an example of how other races can be spread over different colors.
Says who? So humans can transcend their birth society, but other races/species can't? How close-minded is that?
Now, if you're talking about alignments, such as in D&D, you can find all races embodying all different alignments. This is not unique to humans in any way, shape or form.
Considering that Sakura exempted the Razorfin on acount of being red the others count as well.
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I like the idea of familar races assuming unfamilar roles in a block. Now I do not think any of these alternate forms should make the base set but in a block its fine.
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Now, if you're talking about alignments, such as in D&D, you can find all races embodying all different alignments. This is not unique to humans in any way, shape or form.
It's not close minded, its the way the game flavor is written. And most fantasy literature and games.
Lets say you were reading Lord of the Rings and suddenly the Fellowship came upon a town of friendly sun worshipping Orcs which was being burned to the ground by a horde of Elvish Berserkers.
The odd creature spilling color is fine, and itd be "Closed Minded" to assume they cannot be in other colors sometimes. But it really is a big difference when it is enough to fill a block that are off color.
I am opposed to the apparent racial colourshift also- I was hoping that the colour pie would be rigidly adhered to and monocoloured decks encouraged, to nullify the shenanigans of the previous two blocks. I do not like messing with the colour pie; the multicolour worked because they made each colour combination feel like a new colour altogether.
I will force monogreen elves to be standard constructed competitive at a FNM tournament; if the cards of the set do not enable this, I will wail to the skies with grief. Black elves are not something that appeal to me, although I express some guilt that green kithkin do, and defend this hypocrisy by saying kithkin do not have an established and thorough traditional colour they belong in, although they are rightfully white.
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'..they imagine their gift is to meddle and rule, while they worship their reflection in a social cesspool..'
Lets say you were reading Lord of the Rings and suddenly the Fellowship came upon a town of friendly sun worshipping Orcs which was being burned to the ground by a horde of Elvish Berserkers.
It would be more like after reading the lord of the rings you picked up the David Weber series in which the protaganist in his individual fantasy world is a member of a race which is deemed uncouth, barbaric and yes evil by the rest of the races of man.
Toto I don't think we are in middle earth anymore.
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A race being seen by others does not mean the race is actually evil.
In exploratory times, generally each culture saw each other culture as backwards demonic and barbaric. It is normal.
Just because we think those weird Japanese people we just visited are backwards and barbaric and cruel does not mean that they are a Black or Red race.
If the flavor of the novel has anything to say about the elves in this set, gone are the Elves of Llanowar. Tree-hugging is looked down upon in this Elven Society, and although it seems nature is still revered, any nature worship is blatently ignored in favor of strict protocol and harsh discipline. The extent to which most elves admire nature is to poison the tips of their wooden arrows with the pollen of the Moonglove bloom.
That being said, I think a much more realistic card in this set would be:
Gilt Leaf Druid GB
Tap: Target Elf Creature gains Deathtouch until end of turn.
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Sygg, River Guide could be the merfolk with the "christmas lights"
Hearthcage Giant, Axegrinder Giant, Brion Stoutarm - as you said before, all are arts from the first batch from MagicTutor.
Veteran of the Depths could be the scarred merfolk.
Pardon, but I am not sure if I get the sense of this sentence.
We have the names from the poster (assuming that all the named cards are in LOR), and BlueNu confirms that these names match the names from the novel - the conclusion is that they are in LOR, and they are possibly legendary.
1) No dwarves in Lorwyn. 2) Name already known and confirmed by Hydro.
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I was referring to the important characters from the novel which aren't on the posters.
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Black mana making elf? There is two that do make it but one is green/black and the other deals 1 damage to you. Maybe just remake one of them.
This set isn't going to mess with the colour pie like the last set. Just like after this set they aren't going to make a tribal set.
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And the Force of Will variant has nothing to do with the Color Pie.
As for the black mana elves...they are all location specific in name and cannot be in Lor as a result.
I can honestly see this
Wren's Run Elf B
Creature - Elf Druid
Tap : B
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Creature types don't belong to a specific area of the color pie. You could have white golbins, blue goblins, etc. and still not mess with the color pie. Creature types have NOTHING to do with the color pie.
For example, have you heard the argument that if they were ever to reprint Giant Shark, it would be Green, not Blue. The color pie describes personality and beliefs, not physical form.
Creature types often represent Personality and Beliefs.
One of the many flaws with the last tribal block is that the standard Tribal color pie made for some very narrow Tribal design it its creatures. They are spilling the tribes into multiple colors this block, many outside of where they would normally be.
No, its because they aren't defining color by area of residence anymore, or creature type. Sure, there will be more green elves than any other color, more red goblins, etc. because in the game, your average elf embodies green ideals, and your average goblin red ideals. That doesn't mean you can't have the occasional elf or goblin that embodies the ideals of a different color.
Different planet, different social evolution. Look at it this way: The human 'tribe' is spread across all five colors, even though it is most prevalent in White. Why, then, when other races or tribes adopt different values and beliefs on a different planet, are we so quick to say they're messing with the color pie?
What if it was a land shark?
And for those of you under the age of . . . well, I don't even know what age to use.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_shark
Humans are the generic race in Magic. In Fantasy settings, humans always seem to be spread among every alignment and every terrain, and every theology. They cannot be used as an example of how other races can be spread over different colors.
Gaea's Skyfolk
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Says who? So humans can transcend their birth society, but other races/species can't? How close-minded is that?
Now, if you're talking about alignments, such as in D&D, you can find all races embodying all different alignments. This is not unique to humans in any way, shape or form.
Though it is worth noting these as with the rest of the cycle was part of a tribal mixed group. Knight + Merfolk = WU and so on.
Still, as stated. The odd Tribal spill occaisionally does happen. Big difference when the entire block devotes itself to it.
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I like the idea of familar races assuming unfamilar roles in a block. Now I do not think any of these alternate forms should make the base set but in a block its fine.
Would learn my licks with a bottle neck slide
It's not close minded, its the way the game flavor is written. And most fantasy literature and games.
Lets say you were reading Lord of the Rings and suddenly the Fellowship came upon a town of friendly sun worshipping Orcs which was being burned to the ground by a horde of Elvish Berserkers.
The odd creature spilling color is fine, and itd be "Closed Minded" to assume they cannot be in other colors sometimes. But it really is a big difference when it is enough to fill a block that are off color.
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I will force monogreen elves to be standard constructed competitive at a FNM tournament; if the cards of the set do not enable this, I will wail to the skies with grief. Black elves are not something that appeal to me, although I express some guilt that green kithkin do, and defend this hypocrisy by saying kithkin do not have an established and thorough traditional colour they belong in, although they are rightfully white.
It would be more like after reading the lord of the rings you picked up the David Weber series in which the protaganist in his individual fantasy world is a member of a race which is deemed uncouth, barbaric and yes evil by the rest of the races of man.
Toto I don't think we are in middle earth anymore.
Would learn my licks with a bottle neck slide
Proteus Machine say's he'll be a black merfolk just to screw up your world.
One of the main reasons we don't get non blue merfolk is the lack of water in other colors. Though i never knew why they didn't make a swampy merfolk.
Also, i hope we do get a card that makes fish tokens cause then we would get fish token cards!!
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In exploratory times, generally each culture saw each other culture as backwards demonic and barbaric. It is normal.
Just because we think those weird Japanese people we just visited are backwards and barbaric and cruel does not mean that they are a Black or Red race.
That being said, I think a much more realistic card in this set would be:
Gilt Leaf Druid GB
Tap: Target Elf Creature gains Deathtouch until end of turn.
2/2