I'm really hoping this "neo-duress" sees print. Overall, black has been pretty meh recently imo. Then again I started playing when broken cards like sinkhole and dark rit were abundant so my opinion is a bit biased. I'd love to see it printed as speculated in post 1, but i think the following may be a bit more likely.
Neo-Addle B
Sorcery
Choose a color. Target player reveals their hand and you choose a card of that color. That player discards that card. You lose 2 life.
I think this may be more accurate for 3 reasons:
1) Black already has Distress
2) No Persecute in Xth
3) Duress etc. have a year till rotation
Just my 2 cents.......
Actually, that's pretty good, way more balanced than broken Neo-Duress.
Neo addle sucks, you can't get artifacts with it. And addle wasn't used very much, at least not successfully. The new duress that can pick any non land for 2 life seems more printable.
Neo addle sucks, you can't get artifacts with it. And addle wasn't used very much, at least not successfully.
Actually, Addle was used quite a bit (in Machine head, for example). Thing is, it was a supplement to Duress that was standard legal at that time. Without Duress, it would have seen even less play.
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I'm thinking that neo-duress isnt happening. They've already given us the closest thing they'll reprint to it, and its Distress. The card is very balanced, fairly powerful, and efficiently costed. Yes, its hard to splash, but powerful effects like that, counterspelling, etc are supposed to be. We've been a part of the magic world of multicolored for a while now I think and its hard to remember that we cant just pick good cards first and figure out the mana base after that.
Also, check the spoiler, you'll see that there is a faerie that does a similar type of effect. Yes its a tad overcosted, but its there. Furthermore, I'd expect something that is more persecute like if anything, but even that seems unlikely to me given that I'm pretty sure that wizards isnt a fan of doing things that are un-fun for people (hense why we see a cut back in LD, counters, and so on). Persecute SUCKS to be on the other side of, its a game decider 90% of the time. Distress/Duress/Cabal Therapy types of stuff is just control and disruption, it'll get a card that might be bad for them to have. Counters are the same, they stop one thing. Persecute pretty much says you lose if it resolves. But I digress, im ranting a bit too much. I dont think we'll see the neo-duress.
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UWMerfolk (Sygg, River Guide) B Vampires (Anowon the Ruin Sage) BRU Zombies! (Lord of Tresserhorn) WUBRG Allies (Karona, False God) W Soldiers (Darien, King of Kjeldor)
Duress is very and much better than distress and distress is not bad either, otherwise it wouldn't be played. And since duress is so powerful, this neo-duress will be less powerfull, but still very good.
Seriously, is distress really played? that card is awful. Care to share a link to a decklist?
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B Ob Nixilis, The Fallen - EDH R Red Deck Wins - Standard R Burn- Legacy RG Spiders! - Multiplayer GW Enchantress -Casual U/G Treshold - Casual RGU Snake-Tongue Aggro-Control - Retired W Old School Rebels! -Retired
Distress is gastigate in mono black both see play as sb vs control and the french mono black aggro control deck thats rising also runs it md so it sees play but its still pretty bad im hoping they print the shockeress both for t2 playability and ext...
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Sorcery (R)
Target player reveals his or her hand. You choose a non-land card from it. That player discards that card. You lose 2 life.
disturbed01 spoiled this card a few mineutes ago. i think this thread should be closed and the thread disturbed01 opened should be used for the discussion of the card.
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Yay!! at last we get a powerful 1-mana discard spell, sure it's a rare so you can't grab your playset for a couple of bucks, but who cares, I'd happily take 2 dmg to Duress an opponent, plus the fact that you can nail annoying creatures with it means it's not nearly dead vs aggro as the original Duress was.
I think so, which of course is why hydro won't spoil it:rolleyes:.
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Actually, that's pretty good, way more balanced than broken Neo-Duress.
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Actually, Addle was used quite a bit (in Machine head, for example). Thing is, it was a supplement to Duress that was standard legal at that time. Without Duress, it would have seen even less play.
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Also, check the spoiler, you'll see that there is a faerie that does a similar type of effect. Yes its a tad overcosted, but its there. Furthermore, I'd expect something that is more persecute like if anything, but even that seems unlikely to me given that I'm pretty sure that wizards isnt a fan of doing things that are un-fun for people (hense why we see a cut back in LD, counters, and so on). Persecute SUCKS to be on the other side of, its a game decider 90% of the time. Distress/Duress/Cabal Therapy types of stuff is just control and disruption, it'll get a card that might be bad for them to have. Counters are the same, they stop one thing. Persecute pretty much says you lose if it resolves. But I digress, im ranting a bit too much. I dont think we'll see the neo-duress.
UWMerfolk (Sygg, River Guide)
B Vampires (Anowon the Ruin Sage)
BRU Zombies! (Lord of Tresserhorn)
WUBRG Allies (Karona, False God)
W Soldiers (Darien, King of Kjeldor)
Maybe they won't print something this good, but get real, distress sucks.
Seriously, is distress really played? that card is awful. Care to share a link to a decklist?
B Ob Nixilis, The Fallen - EDH
R Red Deck Wins - Standard
R Burn- Legacy
RG Spiders! - Multiplayer
GW Enchantress -Casual
U/G Treshold - Casual
RGU Snake-Tongue Aggro-Control - Retired
W Old School Rebels! -Retired
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Sorcery (R)
Target player reveals his or her hand. You choose a non-land card from it. That player discards that card. You lose 2 life.
disturbed01 spoiled this card a few mineutes ago. i think this thread should be closed and the thread disturbed01 opened should be used for the discussion of the card.
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I'm looking forward to grab 4 of these ASAP.
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