0) (this movie will be released last as a prequel): urza + mishra + barrin + yawghmoth history
1) the weatherlight crew is introduced, rath+flowstone+volrath are explained, the 'plan' of invasion on dominiria is revealed
2) crovax takes over rath, teferi randomly appaers and disappears, urza reveals the thran, and the coalition on dominiria is formed. we still don't SEE yawgmoth, but we feel his menacing presence during several creepy scenes.
3) the invasion begins... and ends with an epic final!
That isn't the topic of the discussion here - it's the movie. If you asked me about the books I would show you pictures of 8 year-olds giving each other high fives and pretty much say, "That's that."
Well that's your opinion - obviously lot's of people do like them. I haven't read a MTG since the Onslaught saga (for reasons you stated), but that doesn't mean lots of fans dont love them.
Everyone knows it wouldn't be an intellectually challenging movie, but if has got some good action, I have no problem checking my brain at the door to enjoy it. The fact that it would be focused on the card game I love is just a bonus.
A friend of mine and I started working on a writing up a screenplay for The Brothers War because we figured that it and the other stories from the artifacts cycle were the only ones truly worth an actual movie. Everything else seems like a Sci-Fi miniseries would work fine. If they were working on something original, it's best that they just dropped it.
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Jace bounce was a -1. He could do it 3 times before he would die. Liliana can only do it once before having to do her +1. Overall very disappointed with her unless we get Madness.
Crap, you're right, she's not as good as one of the single most overpowered cards ever printed. Unplayable!
A movie about one the Planeswalkers could be interesting...Jace, obviously.
Robert Pattinson or Hayden Christensen would totally work as Jace, they don't have to act well, just have to be handsome.
Pattinson's "handsomeness" is shaky at best, but I digress. Lol. A weather light saga-based film would be fine, very star wars ish without the star part.
How has no one brought up Clue!? That movie ruled.
But yeah. The problem is that to be commercially successful the movie would be directed towards a very young audience. Very rarely does that yield positive results in quality storytelling...
I was pretty startled by the omission as well. I take it that means we're just kinda old.
I'd have to agree about that- the movie would be skewed towards a younger audiance, and probably be a silly "popcorn movie" with a superfriends style team of planeswalkers, rather than say, "The Brother's War", treated in the manner than HBO is treating "A Game of Thrones".
A talented filmmaker could do very well with that source material, given you've several relatable characters you'd be able to work with- dangerous/charismatic man (Mishra), hot crazy woman (Ashnod), Driven, distant genius (Urza), lonely, long suffering wife (Kayla), then you've Tawnos as everyman and narator. Then of course, Gix.
Plus, you get one hell of an ending and an immediate sequel hook- Sylex blast goes off, naration shifts from Tawnos to Urza, and you introduce the idea of Planeswalker.
It's a nice way to dip into a pool of people who know nothing about the source material and be able to drag them into it- because if you clean it all up and tear off some of the REALLY dumb parts, the story isn't too bad. It's after those major arcs are done that things get latched on and stupid.
The only bad thing I could see is that you'd certainly get people who watched the movie and come over to the card game and say "well, where's Urza!"
Minus Urza, or storyline characters that flow from his story (Karn, Teferi, etc)... the storylines are basically pulp fantasy. And not even good pulp fantasy.
Yeah, no thanks. I love the game, but it should stay just that, a game. You want to know another card game they tried to make into a movie? Yu-Gi-Oh. God, I wanted to shoot myself for seeing that. And the cards weren't even worth it either!
Now, if they gave cards out at the MTG movie as someone suggested, then I might see it, depending on the card. I would not go for anything less than a Planeswalker, or a Scars Sword/Skullclamp/Lightning Greaves.
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They could do scars block with Samuel L. Jackson as Koth "I WANT THESE MOTHER *****ING PHYREXIANS OFF MY MOTHER *****ING PLANE!"
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i dont think a mtg movie would be very great. it would most definitely have to be two brothers or something like that. thats not terribly far fetched.
I do think it is very much in the realm of possibility to make a proper M:tG movie, it would just take time, effort and a decent budget, unfortunately the studios these days don't want to provide any of those things unless its a guaranteed cash cow.
I think if a Magic movie got a proper writer and based it on one of the novels that isn't clogged with complexity it could work, for example if say, Joss Whedon wrote it and it was based on Agents of Artifice or The Brothers War, as opposed to Michael Bay writing it and basing it on Apocalypse.
The cast would need to be impressive, and I think that's another thing that will cause problems, especially among fans. For example if they said something like "Oh yeah, we're casting Robert Downey Jr. as the voice of Nicol Bolas", I'm pretty sure half the Magic fan base that had any interest in the film would flip out. :/
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Since the stories are too long to put in a movie, they should really make an animated series like Pokemon or Yu Gi Oh, but more grown up like some of the anime out there. Although I would want the art to stay more western, as is on the cards.
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The Brother's War would be an awesome movie. Its interesting and self contained enough to work. Plus, if it did well enough, they could easily do a sequel.
Asking people to remove quotes in their signatures is tyranny! If I can't say something just because someone's feelings are hurt then no one would ever be able to say anything! Political correctness is stupid.
Wit's End is the PERFECT answer to your opponent's Monomania however.
Just hold on to your Wit's End when they Monomania, so you can Wit's End them on your next turn!!!
I think this is fairly reminiscent of the "Jace Battles" we have seen in past standards.. My guess is we will soon witness the great Monomania-Wit's End battles.
Samuel L Jackson could be whoever he wishes to, after Star Wars and the whole " we created a new Nick Fury that , oh , looks just like you Mr. Jackson!" , I could perfectly imagine him as Jace or Nicol Bolas.
Samuel L Jackson could be whoever he wishes to, after Star Wars and the whole " we created a new Nick Fury that , oh , looks just like you Mr. Jackson!" , I could perfectly imagine him as Jace or Nicol Bolas.
Haha Nicol Bolas! But he would just look like himself, maybe have the Jules hair.
Everything else seems like a Sci-Fi miniseries would work fine.
Yes, or even an HBO series (once Game of Thrones is done, a new fantasy show could step up).
It would probably be a horribly campy movie that would set MTG and its playerbase back about ten years, if only from the social stigma alone.
"You play MTG? Isn't that the game that sparked the film with those little Boggle things? Oh, you mean Bogles. Nope, you're never getting into my pants."
0) (this movie will be released last as a prequel): urza + mishra + barrin + yawghmoth history
1) the weatherlight crew is introduced, rath+flowstone+volrath are explained, the 'plan' of invasion on dominiria is revealed
2) crovax takes over rath, teferi randomly appaers and disappears, urza reveals the thran, and the coalition on dominiria is formed. we still don't SEE yawgmoth, but we feel his menacing presence during several creepy scenes.
3) the invasion begins... and ends with an epic final!
The fact that Nemesis had a halfway decent plot does not change the fact that the whole Weatherlight to Invasion storyline was an aimless, tragic disaster. If you've actually read the books through to Apocalypse, there's no way you would ever want that story made into a movie. If it were, the DVDs would probably end up coming to life and killing people out of sheer terribleness, like The Ring.
Wit's End is the PERFECT answer to your opponent's Monomania however.
Just hold on to your Wit's End when they Monomania, so you can Wit's End them on your next turn!!!
I think this is fairly reminiscent of the "Jace Battles" we have seen in past standards.. My guess is we will soon witness the great Monomania-Wit's End battles.
I remember InQuest Magazine made a fake movie poster for Invasion block years ago... words could not do justice to how awesome this would actually be. I still have the picture -attached!
I remember InQuest Magazine made a fake movie poster for Invasion block years ago... words could not do justice to how awesome this would actually be. I still have the picture -attached!
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Now the question is, who would play what? And what would it be based on? The neo-walker stories or the classic stories?
If they made a movie it would have to be The Brother's War... Really that book had everything, the characters were complex and often times they showed very real flaws, which ended up being the summation of the war. More so, it doesn't force the notion of good and evil, but rather illustrates the different schools of thought when Urza accepts his wife's bastard child as his own despite being a neglecting husband previously.
If they made a movie it would have to be The Brother's War... Really that book had everything, the characters were complex and often times they showed very real flaws, which ended up being the summation of the war. More so, it doesn't force the notion of good and evil, but rather illustrates the different schools of thought when Urza accepts his wife's bastard child as his own despite being a neglecting husband previously.
I highly doubt that the movie (if it even gets made, which is honestly a longshot) would be based on an existing story from over a decade ago that the current creative direction is trying incredibly hard to distance itself from.
Reality check: the odds of such a movie getting made are low. The odds of the movie being based on a pre-existing storyline are low. The odds of that storyline being from before the Mending are low. Work that through and the chances of us seeing the Brothers War on the silver screen are slim to none.
If they do this, I'd put money on it taking place during our contemporary continuity, likely with a new slate of characters and settings since that would give the scriptwriters a fair bit more slack and also not step on any toes in terms of what Creative plans to do with the story in-house.
0) (this movie will be released last as a prequel): urza + mishra + barrin + yawghmoth history
1) the weatherlight crew is introduced, rath+flowstone+volrath are explained, the 'plan' of invasion on dominiria is revealed
2) crovax takes over rath, teferi randomly appaers and disappears, urza reveals the thran, and the coalition on dominiria is formed. we still don't SEE yawgmoth, but we feel his menacing presence during several creepy scenes.
3) the invasion begins... and ends with an epic final!
Well that's your opinion - obviously lot's of people do like them. I haven't read a MTG since the Onslaught saga (for reasons you stated), but that doesn't mean lots of fans dont love them.
Everyone knows it wouldn't be an intellectually challenging movie, but if has got some good action, I have no problem checking my brain at the door to enjoy it. The fact that it would be focused on the card game I love is just a bonus.
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Pattinson's "handsomeness" is shaky at best, but I digress. Lol. A weather light saga-based film would be fine, very star wars ish without the star part.
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I was pretty startled by the omission as well. I take it that means we're just kinda old.
I'd have to agree about that- the movie would be skewed towards a younger audiance, and probably be a silly "popcorn movie" with a superfriends style team of planeswalkers, rather than say, "The Brother's War", treated in the manner than HBO is treating "A Game of Thrones".
A talented filmmaker could do very well with that source material, given you've several relatable characters you'd be able to work with- dangerous/charismatic man (Mishra), hot crazy woman (Ashnod), Driven, distant genius (Urza), lonely, long suffering wife (Kayla), then you've Tawnos as everyman and narator. Then of course, Gix.
Plus, you get one hell of an ending and an immediate sequel hook- Sylex blast goes off, naration shifts from Tawnos to Urza, and you introduce the idea of Planeswalker.
It's a nice way to dip into a pool of people who know nothing about the source material and be able to drag them into it- because if you clean it all up and tear off some of the REALLY dumb parts, the story isn't too bad. It's after those major arcs are done that things get latched on and stupid.
The only bad thing I could see is that you'd certainly get people who watched the movie and come over to the card game and say "well, where's Urza!"
Minus Urza, or storyline characters that flow from his story (Karn, Teferi, etc)... the storylines are basically pulp fantasy. And not even good pulp fantasy.
Yeah, no thanks. I love the game, but it should stay just that, a game. You want to know another card game they tried to make into a movie? Yu-Gi-Oh. God, I wanted to shoot myself for seeing that. And the cards weren't even worth it either!
Now, if they gave cards out at the MTG movie as someone suggested, then I might see it, depending on the card. I would not go for anything less than a Planeswalker, or a Scars Sword/Skullclamp/Lightning Greaves.
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"Mr. Yabbajava, what you've just said is one of the most insanely funniest things I have ever heard. At every point in your rambling, coherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now Smarter for having listened to it. I award you all points, and may God have mercy on your soul. "
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i dont think a mtg movie would be very great. it would most definitely have to be two brothers or something like that. thats not terribly far fetched.
And the Onslaught block would be amazing as movies.
I think if a Magic movie got a proper writer and based it on one of the novels that isn't clogged with complexity it could work, for example if say, Joss Whedon wrote it and it was based on Agents of Artifice or The Brothers War, as opposed to Michael Bay writing it and basing it on Apocalypse.
The cast would need to be impressive, and I think that's another thing that will cause problems, especially among fans. For example if they said something like "Oh yeah, we're casting Robert Downey Jr. as the voice of Nicol Bolas", I'm pretty sure half the Magic fan base that had any interest in the film would flip out. :/
Who am I kidding, it would've blown chunks. This sort of movie never gets done right.
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Samuel L Jackson could be whoever he wishes to, after Star Wars and the whole " we created a new Nick Fury that , oh , looks just like you Mr. Jackson!" , I could perfectly imagine him as Jace or Nicol Bolas.
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Haha Nicol Bolas! But he would just look like himself, maybe have the Jules hair.
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Yes, or even an HBO series (once Game of Thrones is done, a new fantasy show could step up).
It would probably be a horribly campy movie that would set MTG and its playerbase back about ten years, if only from the social stigma alone.
"You play MTG? Isn't that the game that sparked the film with those little Boggle things? Oh, you mean Bogles. Nope, you're never getting into my pants."
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I remember the Magic community completely lost it when this came out. It took a while for people to realize it was a joke.
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The fact that Nemesis had a halfway decent plot does not change the fact that the whole Weatherlight to Invasion storyline was an aimless, tragic disaster. If you've actually read the books through to Apocalypse, there's no way you would ever want that story made into a movie. If it were, the DVDs would probably end up coming to life and killing people out of sheer terribleness, like The Ring.
EDIT: sarnath'd, as usual.
Now the question is, who would play what? And what would it be based on? The neo-walker stories or the classic stories?
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I highly doubt that the movie (if it even gets made, which is honestly a longshot) would be based on an existing story from over a decade ago that the current creative direction is trying incredibly hard to distance itself from.
Reality check: the odds of such a movie getting made are low. The odds of the movie being based on a pre-existing storyline are low. The odds of that storyline being from before the Mending are low. Work that through and the chances of us seeing the Brothers War on the silver screen are slim to none.
If they do this, I'd put money on it taking place during our contemporary continuity, likely with a new slate of characters and settings since that would give the scriptwriters a fair bit more slack and also not step on any toes in terms of what Creative plans to do with the story in-house.
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