It's msrp at the various big box stores if you can find it. Since we don't know what all is in this and the walkers aren't type two there is no reason to assume this will be uber expensive
I hope this set at least includes wasteland or sinkhole as money rares because I think we can agree that these PWs won't be the money rares of the set.
I hope this set at least includes wasteland or sinkhole as money rares because I think we can agree that these PWs won't be the money rares of the set.
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T1, Swamp, Sol Ring (sol ring is uncommon, don't forget)
T2, Mountain, Coalition relic, something else.
T3, Swamp, charge counter on relic.
T4, Island, total mana is 8.
Only needs 7 cards including bolas, so 4 early game creatures are also possible...
Now, I can guarantee that the deck won't look like that, but one can dream...
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T1, Plains, Sol Ring
T2, Mountain, Ajani + to keep land tapped.
T3, you should quit now cause you not getting Bolas out.Or really anything else for that matter.And ill just blow your lands up by the time you get close enough.
Only need 3 cards plus Ajani, so early game creatures are guaranteed.
@ Tezzeret-Theirs so many reasons why its Vengeant and not Goldmane though.
Firstly the announcement art show him wearing naya garb.
2nd-hes not going to suddenly mello out to goldmane as hes confronting the being responsible for the murder of his brother.
3rd-mono w vs three colors is really unfair isn't it.Also Goldmane is useless agains bolas while Vengeant can actually fight him.
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Interesting debate, even when the answer is obvious (I'll not be stating anything more there) But I don't like the way people say that Bolas is so overpowered. I have yet to see (and own) a Duel Deck that is defined (ability, speed and card-reference wise) by the "champion"-cards if the deck , the closest being Elves vs. Goblins.
Even if Ajani would wield only white cards, there are a handful of such alone that can pop Bolas like a grape. So I don't believe Ajani's deck will be anything close to weak.
The most interesting here is what will be of power in Bolas' deck. He can't go all the way with mana acceleration?! And as much as Nightscape Familiar fits his shrewdness, It's probably too Invasion-ish. But if, he draws power from the vast epicness of his life (even though he was imprisoned by the time of the Invasion) One can only hope for Crosis and his charm. The possibilities are endless. But I guess my own Bolas deck is too hardcore carrying 17 mythic. And Familiars in three colors
I think the point is you can't find it for MSRP. Around here, only a few months after it released, you couldn't find it for MSRP. I bet now, it's selling for $35+ at the LGS.
Wal-Mart and Target are pretty awesome places to look for duel decks. Both of mine still have Garruk vs Liliana and Elspeth vs Tezeret in stock.
Ummm if where playing that game then.....
T1, Plains, Sol Ring
T2, Mountain, Ajani + to keep land tapped.
T3, you should quit now cause you not getting Bolas out.Or really anything else for that matter.And ill just blow your lands up by the time you get close enough.
Only need 3 cards plus Ajani, so early game creatures are guaranteed.
If they are going with Bolas as the Big Bad, it's going to be a multicolored set as a whole. Why would they bother with a shard-colored 'Walker to fight a mono-colored 'Walker? It's the first duel deck dipping into multi-colored cards for real, why would they not want that to be cohesive across the entire thing? Then, of course, there's the contention that it makes NO sense flavor-wise and the picture pretty explicitly says it's Vengeant on top of all that.
If they are going with Bolas as the Big Bad, it's going to be a multicolored set as a whole. Why would they bother with a shard-colored 'Walker to fight a mono-colored 'Walker? It's the first duel deck dipping into multi-colored cards for real, why would they not want that to be cohesive across the entire thing?
(I know that the Phyrexia deck in PvTC was monoblack, but the entire schtick of the Coalition deck was that it had all five colours. If I recall correctly, there were nine gold cards and six with allied-colour mana costs for their abilities.)
Then have him eat Nicol Bolas and the Magic universe can be awesome again. He takes over the Infinite Consortium and turns it into a trans-multiverse Izzet League. His agents scour the multiverse in Venser's planeships looking for magic to learn, technology to improve upon, and less intelligent people to condescend to.
another amazing planeswalker dd. Has anyone noticed (with the exception of liliana and garuuk) that the planeswalker dd's all end up in the next set?. Jace Belerin (Jace vs chandra) and Chandra Nalar turn into Jace the Mind Scupter and Chandra Ablaze. Then Elspeth vs Tezzeret turn into Elspeth Tyrell and Agent of Bolas. I have a feeling that with two iterations of Ajani will not see a reprint (I have afeeling that it will be Ajani Vengant in this duel deck) however Nicol Bolas will have a new planeswalker card in the new block
Although the Ajani vs. Bolas actually happened in the Alara block, I won't be surprised if we see a new Bolas card in the future, seems like WotC is building him up as one of the big bads of the Magic Multiverse
I doubt we will see a new bolas, his old card may be repinted though.
has there ever been a reprinted Mythic, outside of a Core Set (which they won't put Bolas in for being multicolor) obviously. reprinted Rares are incredibly rare and usually just restricted to Blocks with heavy Nostlagia, hence Mindslaver being reprinted as Mythic.
No, if Nicol Bolas is getting a slot in a set it will be via new card.
has there ever been a reprinted Mythic, outside of a Core Set (which they won't put Bolas in for being multicolor) obviously. reprinted Rares are incredibly rare and usually just restricted to Blocks with heavy Nostlagia, hence Mindslaver being reprinted as Mythic.
No, if Nicol Bolas is getting a slot in a set it will be via new card.
Well there hasn't really been enough time to judge WotC's pattern to reprinting mythics. The rarity has only been around since Alara block. That only leaves Zendikar block and the two sets of Scars block so far. Not really a large sample pool.
has there ever been a reprinted Mythic, outside of a Core Set (which they won't put Bolas in for being multicolor) obviously. reprinted Rares are incredibly rare and usually just restricted to Blocks with heavy Nostlagia, hence Mindslaver being reprinted as Mythic.
No, if Nicol Bolas is getting a slot in a set it will be via new card.
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I'm nearly 100% sure he was stating that it'll be the old bolas card in this deck, not that they'd reprint him in another set.
Which is for certain anyway, they always put a prexisting walker card in these decks.
Here's praying its Vengeant on the Ajani side, make me buy 2 of these instead of 0.
(Tho if we get heirarch or anything good like that the number goes up to 4 X-X)
maybe it will be vengant and bolas to tie up the alara block, and well get a garuk and liliana in the fall to offset them never gettin reprinted after theirs. Asuming this is following any of that. More likely they make what they believe will sell rather than selling a story chapter by chapter
maybe it will be vengant and bolas to tie up the alara block, and well get a garuk and liliana in the fall to offset them never gettin reprinted after theirs. Asuming this is following any of that. More likely they make what they believe will sell rather than selling a story chapter by chapter
Yes, exactly. He's saying that we haven't had a block that focuses on Garruk and Liliana's story, yet they had a duel deck. Jace vs. Chandra had Zendikar, Elspeth vs. Tezzeret has Scars, and this upcoming Ajani vs. Bolas has Alara. But Garruk vs. Liliana has? Hopefully Shake.
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PS: You do know that making a Duel Deck out of Giant Shark and Giant Octopus will promote these cards to Mythic rarity?
DO IT, WOTC. I'M WAITING WITH DOLLARS IN MY FISTS!
I'm not sure there should be any creatures bigger than Giant Shark in the deck. It would make it less giant. I'm also torn between the thematically more relevant Weber High Tide, versus the better illustrated Maddocks version.
Back in the real world, I would be disappointed if Ajani Vengeant is the marquee card. I prefer Goldmane purely out of an anal-retentive need to see all five original planeswalkers in Duel Decks.
Why is everyone pretty worked up for Ajani Vengeant? I got 4 copies of him at my local store for 10$ total, he's really underpriced, just buy it and the current art is awesome.
For the Duel deck, I will buy 2, like every other duel decks except Divine Vs Demonic, which I didn't pre-buy and sold out in 1 hour or less in my area
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It's basically Bolas vs Bolas because Ajani just made a copy of Bolas...
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Ummm if where playing that game then.....
T1, Plains, Sol Ring
T2, Mountain, Ajani + to keep land tapped.
T3, you should quit now cause you not getting Bolas out.Or really anything else for that matter.And ill just blow your lands up by the time you get close enough.
Only need 3 cards plus Ajani, so early game creatures are guaranteed.
@ Tezzeret-Theirs so many reasons why its Vengeant and not Goldmane though.
Firstly the announcement art show him wearing naya garb.
2nd-hes not going to suddenly mello out to goldmane as hes confronting the being responsible for the murder of his brother.
3rd-mono w vs three colors is really unfair isn't it.Also Goldmane is useless agains bolas while Vengeant can actually fight him.
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Even if Ajani would wield only white cards, there are a handful of such alone that can pop Bolas like a grape. So I don't believe Ajani's deck will be anything close to weak.
The most interesting here is what will be of power in Bolas' deck. He can't go all the way with mana acceleration?! And as much as Nightscape Familiar fits his shrewdness, It's probably too Invasion-ish. But if, he draws power from the vast epicness of his life (even though he was imprisoned by the time of the Invasion) One can only hope for Crosis and his charm. The possibilities are endless. But I guess my own Bolas deck is too hardcore carrying 17 mythic. And Familiars in three colors
Wal-Mart and Target are pretty awesome places to look for duel decks. Both of mine still have Garruk vs Liliana and Elspeth vs Tezeret in stock.
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has there ever been a reprinted Mythic, outside of a Core Set (which they won't put Bolas in for being multicolor) obviously. reprinted Rares are incredibly rare and usually just restricted to Blocks with heavy Nostlagia, hence Mindslaver being reprinted as Mythic.
No, if Nicol Bolas is getting a slot in a set it will be via new card.
Well there hasn't really been enough time to judge WotC's pattern to reprinting mythics. The rarity has only been around since Alara block. That only leaves Zendikar block and the two sets of Scars block so far. Not really a large sample pool.
But I would love to see a new Bolas.
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I'm nearly 100% sure he was stating that it'll be the old bolas card in this deck, not that they'd reprint him in another set.
Which is for certain anyway, they always put a prexisting walker card in these decks.
Here's praying its Vengeant on the Ajani side, make me buy 2 of these instead of 0.
(Tho if we get heirarch or anything good like that the number goes up to 4 X-X)
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Yes, exactly. He's saying that we haven't had a block that focuses on Garruk and Liliana's story, yet they had a duel deck. Jace vs. Chandra had Zendikar, Elspeth vs. Tezzeret has Scars, and this upcoming Ajani vs. Bolas has Alara. But Garruk vs. Liliana has? Hopefully Shake.
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PS: You do know that making a Duel Deck out of Giant Shark and Giant Octopus will promote these cards to Mythic rarity?
DO IT, WOTC. I'M WAITING WITH DOLLARS IN MY FISTS!
I'm not sure there should be any creatures bigger than Giant Shark in the deck. It would make it less giant. I'm also torn between the thematically more relevant Weber High Tide, versus the better illustrated Maddocks version.
There should also surely be room for Gravelgill Axeshark
Back in the real world, I would be disappointed if Ajani Vengeant is the marquee card. I prefer Goldmane purely out of an anal-retentive need to see all five original planeswalkers in Duel Decks.
For the Duel deck, I will buy 2, like every other duel decks except Divine Vs Demonic, which I didn't pre-buy and sold out in 1 hour or less in my area
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It's basically Bolas vs Bolas because Ajani just made a copy of Bolas...