So, SCG has her pre-ordering at $15. If she drops to about half that, I'll consider proactively picking up a copy. Other than that, I'll only trade for her.
I'd go $10 since I want them for EDH and the indestructibility is a powerful ability that forces people to remove her in specific ways(which of course exist in abundance in EDH anyway but still). I have about $20 in ebay bucks though so I might be willing to go a little higher since it won't be as much coming out of my pocket for a playset. All depends on how crazy the hype gets
I for one am very happy with her, I was afraid she would be relient on humans like angelic overseer I so glad she does'nt
but then this card is targeted at me the causal magic player (timmy).
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Jason Chan has done better work than this. She just looks so boring here.
Agreed. I'm a little peeved that the promotional artwork for Sorin was MUCH better than the card, and now they've done it again with Avacyn. A disappointing trend to be sure.
In my opinion - she's a bomb fatty mythic, nothing more, nothing less. I'm glad they didn't go over the top with her, like giving her hexproof, just cause she's the hero (not hero of bladehold) of the set.
I'm really digging the flavor and the art is good, but not great. I'm wondering how the other Avacyn art is going to be used.
It's a GIANT beater. That makes everything else you control INDESTRUCTIBLE. Seriously, if you drop this and you're not facing lethal on the board next turn, you pretty much win. Right? Well, and if they don't have Fiend Hunter .. or Black Sun's Zenith for 8 .. or doubple Dismember .. or Tragic Slip with Morbid .. You know what, who cares? I think she's awesome. If you don't wanna pay 5WWW, then Forbidden Alchemy and Unburial Rites can help you out.
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All over the top responses aside (and there have been a few here) let's look at her objectively.
At 8 mana, 3 of it white, she's even tougher to hard cast than Elesh. So if I'm playing her, she goes in something like flare or frites or mono white humans, tokens or something of that nature.
The only way to get rid of her AND her fellow beaters is via O-ring, BSZ and the various other cards that don't say "destroy."
Yes, we can all play the "All I need is a...to kill her" but please folks...your hands don't come fully stocked with just the right removal you need 100% of the time. And given that you CAN get her out turn 3 in a Frites deck gives you a decent chance of keeping her around for a while. Sure, they can snag it. Again, they have to be playing blue and have the card.
No creature, or permanent for that matter, in this game is beyond being dealt with. So if we want to play THAT game, all cards are crap. So please let's get over this "dies to X" garbage. It's worn out and old.
The question is, how quickly can she hit the field, what impact will she have after doing so and how quickly afterwards can we win if she's not dealt with?
In a frites deck, she's a turn 3 possible, turn 4 most likely. Played with a lot of small creatures like spirits, she can end a game quickly if the opponent can't deal with what's on your board. Remember, even DoJ is useless against her and her friends.
Is it the greatest card ever printed? Of course not. But in the right deck, she can be just as good as Elesh if not better. With Elesh there are infinitely more ways of getting rid of her AND the rest of your crew. With Avacyn, those ways are diminished if nothing else, which, even at her mana cost, makes her a viable option.
Will I play her? I don't know. I wasn't overly thrilled with Frites to begin with for several reasons. But this card may add a twist to it that just may put it a notch over where it was.
Don't count her out until we see what the pros do with her.
People wouldn't have been happy unless we'd have gotten something like this:
Avacyn, Angel of Hope, :5mana::symw::symw::symw:
Legendary Creature - Angel
Flying, Vigilance, Hexproof, Lifelink, Double Strike
Avacyn, Angel of Hope can't be countered.
Avacyn, Angel of Hope and other permanents you control are indestructable.
When Avacyn, Angel of Hope is in your graveyard, you may pay :2mana::symw::symw:. If you do, you may put Avacyn, Angel of Hope on the battlefield.
8/8
And people would still complain that it doesn't have trample or something I'm sure.
Well, clearly you can just chump it forever with Bitterblossom, so it's still terribad.
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I guess OP wants it to be 'keyworded' like "dies" was. What word would you replace ETB with though?
When Aegis Angel is born?
When Huntmaster of the Fells arrives?
When Kitchen Sphinx lands?
When Faerie Imposter busts in?
When Dread Cacodemon pops in?
When Malfegor shows up?
Has anyone else noticed that the set symbol, the church symbol, and the end of her weapon are all refered to as "Avacyn's Collar?" If this collar is so important, why not portray it on the card representative of its wielder.
Were you expecting it to be around her neck or something? It's not called Avacyn's Collar because Avacyn wears it, it's a silver collar Avacyn uses to imprison demons. So it is portrayed on the card, at the tip of her spear as you pointed out, which she can probably use to pin a demon around the throat.
What concerns me more is that this ability is missing from the flavor of the card - I was expecting some sort of built-in removal ability. Or is that what you were referring to? Sometimes it's hard to understand the exact meaning of a post.
I can see what you mean, but I'm taking the opposite stance. I think it's great they begin AVR spoils with Avacyn herself to spearhead the spoiler season.
They probably figured that if they spoiled Avacyn first, things could only go up from there.
We expected something more creative.....avacyn does nothing new and doesn t open new strategies...
This. Personally, I was not expecting anything this large - either in terms of P/T or CMC. Her size just makes her unwieldly, and keeps her out of decks that would most want to make use of her indestructible ability. Something a little more playable would have been nice, maybe at the 6 CMC range, tops. Especially in the current format with the popularity of Phantasmal Image and Phyrexian Metamorph, being Legendary is a drawback, and should help mitigate the CMC. She could have easily been a 6/7 or even 7/7 for 3WWW, and at least she would have been a contender for the titan slot. At 8 CMC, I can't think of a deck I'd want to put her in (outside of EDH of course).
Or, as another idea, instead of indestructible permanents, what if she had an ETB effect along the lines of "When Avacyn enters the battlefield, exile target creature (or permanent?). Creatures you control gain protection from that creature's color(s) (until end of turn, or while Avacyn is in play?). To me, that would fit the flavor a bit better, and would have made for a more interesting card to play, possibly making the high cost worth fitting her into a deck.
Were you expecting it to be around her neck or something? It's not called Avacyn's Collar because Avacyn wears it, it's a silver collar Avacyn uses to imprison demons. So it is portrayed on the card, at the tip of her spear as you pointed out, which she can probably use to pin a demon around the throat.
What concerns me more is that this ability is missing from the flavor of the card - I was expecting some sort of built-in removal ability. Or is that what you were referring to? Sometimes it's hard to understand the exact meaning of a post.
They probably figured that if they spoiled Avacyn first, things could only go up from there.
This. Personally, I was not expecting anything this large - either in terms of P/T or CMC. Her size just makes her unwieldly, and keeps her out of decks that would most want to make use of her indestructible ability. Something a little more playable would have been nice, maybe at the 6 CMC range, tops. Especially in the current format with the popularity of Phantasmal Image and Phyrexian Metamorph, being Legendary is a drawback, and should help mitigate the CMC. She could have easily been a 6/7 or even 7/7 for 3WWW, and at least she would have been a contender for the titan slot. At 8 CMC, I can't think of a deck I'd want to put her in (outside of EDH of course).
Or, as another idea, instead of indestructible permanents, what if she had an ETB effect along the lines of "When Avacyn enters the battlefield, exile target creature (or permanent?). Creatures you control gain protection from that creature's color(s) (until end of turn, or while Avacyn is in play?). To me, that would fit the flavor a bit better, and would have made for a more interesting card to play, possibly making the high cost worth fitting her into a deck.
Lets look at her from a few angles:
Flavor:
She is the soul of the plane basically, and the god to which the people pray. She is on the level of Ionia in terms of size/cost/power, and flavorfully, Ionia and Avacyn are quite similar. Both are god-angels, and the protectors of their planes. She makes her followers indestructible, much like Ionia's protection from a chosen color.
Playability:
She is a viable addition to archtypes like B/W tokens and frites/reanimator/solar flare. She is not necessarily the best possibility for each of these, but she works.
Timmyness:
an 8/8 for 8 with a good ability, awesome
johnnyness:
Lets see what things I can combo her with to make sure nothing I control ever dies
Spike:
Reanimator target that adds redundancy to an already good deck, mmk.
Mythicness:
The aspects to look at for mythicness: flavor, playability, etc.
Her flavor is great, she is the savior of Avacyn, and a giant scary beast (much more on the level of Ionia or Akroma than say...primeval titan)
Her mythic playability is almost prefect. She will certainly see some play, but probably won't be a staple to the same level as Elesh Norn or other mythic staples. News flash, that is *exactly what wizards wants for mythics* they should be good, but not format defining, they should be flavorful and feel mythic, and they should be playable but not necessary.
So, she'll cost under $10, be a nice card, to have, and a good EDH card/general too.
I guess OP wants it to be 'keyworded' like "dies" was. What word would you replace ETB with though?
When Aegis Angel is born?
When Huntmaster of the Fells arrives?
When Kitchen Sphinx lands?
When Faerie Imposter busts in?
When Dread Cacodemon pops in?
When Malfegor shows up?
Is it the greatest card ever printed? Of course not. But in the right deck, she can be just as good as Elesh if not better. With Elesh there are infinitely more ways of getting rid of her AND the rest of your crew. With Avacyn, those ways are diminished if nothing else, which, even at her mana cost, makes her a viable option.
Elesh Norn is far superior. This might be run alognside Elash, but there is no way she is a better target for reanimation. Ofcourse there are situations where she would be better, but the same could be said of ANY card. There are situation where Emrakul's Crucher is better than Norn, but that doesn't mean Crusher is the better card in general. Lets look at it this way...
%70 of the time Elash will be the better choice
%30 of the time this Angel will be the better choice.
I'd be fine if Avacyn turned out to be small, well costed, and have a meaningful ability.
What exactly about "protector of all humanity and singlehandedly responsible for maintaining balance in Innistrad" suggests "small" to you?
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They could have easily made it cost WWWW and make it some over the top finisher for human decks similar to phyrexian obliterator.
OOOOOOOOOOR they could have made an easily splashable utility or token generator card like 4W whenever an opponent cast a spell put an angel token into play.
Instead You get 8CC "I fly, I big, I scary. Boo!" dopey angel that adds nothing to the current standard.
Frites doesn't want it anymore than they want moldgraf monstrosity. The current creature package is infinitely better.
Aggro doesn't want it as they want to be winning the game by T4 not T8.
Control doesn't want it because they have nothing they want to make indestructible.
Last time I checked, control could just pay 8 at the end of your turn and cast a ton of cats and never have to tap out on their turn.
I don't know anything about EDH so its probably good for all the EDH players.
It does seem like Wizards is pushing tournament playability down from mythics into the uncommon and rare slots which I'm ok with.
I just feel like the flagship character of the entire plane should be a little more powerful and creative.
They could have easily made it cost WWWW and make it some over the top finisher for human decks similar to phyrexian obliterator.
OOOOOOOOOOR they could have made an easily splashable utility or token generator card like 4W whenever an opponent cast a spell put an angel token into play.
Instead You get 8CC "I fly, I big, I scary. Boo!" dopey angel that adds nothing to the current standard.
Frites doesn't want it anymore than they want moldgraf monstrosity. The current creature package is infinitely better.
Aggro doesn't want it as they want to be winning the game by T4 not T8.
Control doesn't want it because they have nothing they want to make indestructible.
Last time I checked, control could just pay 8 at the end of your turn and cast a ton of cats and never have to tap out on their turn.
I don't know anything about EDH so its probably good for all the EDH players.
It does seem like Wizards is pushing tournament playability down from mythics into the uncommon and rare slots which I'm ok with.
I just feel like the flagship character of the entire plane should be a little more powerful and creative.
Its not impressive for EDH at all.
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I guess OP wants it to be 'keyworded' like "dies" was. What word would you replace ETB with though?
When Aegis Angel is born?
When Huntmaster of the Fells arrives?
When Kitchen Sphinx lands?
When Faerie Imposter busts in?
When Dread Cacodemon pops in?
When Malfegor shows up?
Flavor:
She is the soul of the plane basically, and the god to which the people pray. She is on the level of Iona in terms of size/cost/power, and flavorfully, Ionia and Avacyn are quite similar. Both are god-angels, and the protectors of their planes. She makes her followers indestructible, much like Ionia's protection from a chosen color.
Avacyn is not even close to being a soul of the plane, she's outside force brought in by Sorin. On the other hand Iona's actual existance is actually debatable.
In terms of being god-angels in terms of power, Avacyn is more leaning to it than Iona. There is no evidence to believe in the Continuity that Iona was the protector of Emeria, if ever she was just an archangel that had powers to hose colors and her art is just some of exaggerated representation (much like the olden stories that were twisted and turned and ended up making the Eldrazi god figures in Zendikar). The Eldrazi were colorless pretty much making her useless in the Zendikar Angel's crusade against them.
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OOOOOOOOOOR they could have made an easily splashable utility or token generator card like 4W whenever an opponent cast a spell put an angel token into play.
Yeah, because if there's one thing people love, it's utility creatures at Mythic.
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Yeah, because if there's one thing people love, it's utility creatures at Mythic.
Last time I checked people love useful creatures so yeah, a useful mythic utility creature sounds pretty much better than a flying indestructible coat rack.
Avacyn is not even close to being a soul of the plane, she's outside force brought in by Sorin. On the other hand Iona's actual existance is actually debatable.
In terms of being god-angels in terms of power, Avacyn is more leaning to it than Iona. There is no evidence to believe in the Continuity that Iona was the protector of Emeria, if ever she was just an archangel that had powers to hose colors and her art is just some of exaggerated representation (much like the olden stories that were twisted and turned and ended up making the Eldrazi god figures in Zendikar). The Eldrazi were colorless pretty much making her useless in the Zendikar Angel's crusade against them.
Oh noez, storyline talk.
Iona, (why did I spell that Ionia in my post >.<) was the kor(?)'s god/angel and was their sort of belief/representation of emrakul.
Avacyn, although not the soul of a plane, is certianly a very central figure to lore and belief in the plane, and is the core of the Avacynian church's belief system.
I guess OP wants it to be 'keyworded' like "dies" was. What word would you replace ETB with though?
When Aegis Angel is born?
When Huntmaster of the Fells arrives?
When Kitchen Sphinx lands?
When Faerie Imposter busts in?
When Dread Cacodemon pops in?
When Malfegor shows up?
I was actually expecting something just a bit more Powerful and Expensive. More on par with the power of Progenitus and the Eldrazi.
She is not particularlly stellar, but maybe there could be support in Innistrad to make her playable in Standard. I mean, the pictures we have been given so far seem belong largely to Angels, who are rarely cheap creatures. This abnormal amount of fatties could mean that Wizards will try to go for a "different" gameplay experience. Like they did with ROE.
I was actually expecting something just a bit more Powerful and Expensive. More on par with the power of Progenitus and the Eldrazi.
She is not particularlly stellar, but maybe there could be support in Innistrad to make her playable in Standard. I mean, the pictures we have been given so far seem belong largely to Angels, who are rarely cheap creatures. This abnormal amount of fatties could mean that Wizards will try to go for a "different" gameplay experience. Like they did with ROE.
Yes, but outside of certain decks, proggy and the eldrazi weren't stellar. Emmy needed some insane ramp to work well, and if one was going to do that, they might as well have played valakut titan, since they did things in (loosely) similar ways.
I guess OP wants it to be 'keyworded' like "dies" was. What word would you replace ETB with though?
When Aegis Angel is born?
When Huntmaster of the Fells arrives?
When Kitchen Sphinx lands?
When Faerie Imposter busts in?
When Dread Cacodemon pops in?
When Malfegor shows up?
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I'd go $10 since I want them for EDH and the indestructibility is a powerful ability that forces people to remove her in specific ways(which of course exist in abundance in EDH anyway but still). I have about $20 in ebay bucks though so I might be willing to go a little higher since it won't be as much coming out of my pocket for a playset. All depends on how crazy the hype gets
but then this card is targeted at me the causal magic player (timmy).
Agreed. I'm a little peeved that the promotional artwork for Sorin was MUCH better than the card, and now they've done it again with Avacyn. A disappointing trend to be sure.
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I'm really digging the flavor and the art is good, but not great. I'm wondering how the other Avacyn art is going to be used.
It'll be the Fat Pack Mural, much like Sorin was, and the Karn reaching from the throne was.
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At 8 mana, 3 of it white, she's even tougher to hard cast than Elesh. So if I'm playing her, she goes in something like flare or frites or mono white humans, tokens or something of that nature.
The only way to get rid of her AND her fellow beaters is via O-ring, BSZ and the various other cards that don't say "destroy."
Yes, we can all play the "All I need is a...to kill her" but please folks...your hands don't come fully stocked with just the right removal you need 100% of the time. And given that you CAN get her out turn 3 in a Frites deck gives you a decent chance of keeping her around for a while. Sure, they can snag it. Again, they have to be playing blue and have the card.
No creature, or permanent for that matter, in this game is beyond being dealt with. So if we want to play THAT game, all cards are crap. So please let's get over this "dies to X" garbage. It's worn out and old.
The question is, how quickly can she hit the field, what impact will she have after doing so and how quickly afterwards can we win if she's not dealt with?
In a frites deck, she's a turn 3 possible, turn 4 most likely. Played with a lot of small creatures like spirits, she can end a game quickly if the opponent can't deal with what's on your board. Remember, even DoJ is useless against her and her friends.
Is it the greatest card ever printed? Of course not. But in the right deck, she can be just as good as Elesh if not better. With Elesh there are infinitely more ways of getting rid of her AND the rest of your crew. With Avacyn, those ways are diminished if nothing else, which, even at her mana cost, makes her a viable option.
Will I play her? I don't know. I wasn't overly thrilled with Frites to begin with for several reasons. But this card may add a twist to it that just may put it a notch over where it was.
Don't count her out until we see what the pros do with her.
Well, clearly you can just chump it forever with Bitterblossom, so it's still terribad.
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obviously playing suture priest or another soul sister.
Were you expecting it to be around her neck or something? It's not called Avacyn's Collar because Avacyn wears it, it's a silver collar Avacyn uses to imprison demons. So it is portrayed on the card, at the tip of her spear as you pointed out, which she can probably use to pin a demon around the throat.
What concerns me more is that this ability is missing from the flavor of the card - I was expecting some sort of built-in removal ability. Or is that what you were referring to? Sometimes it's hard to understand the exact meaning of a post.
They probably figured that if they spoiled Avacyn first, things could only go up from there.
This. Personally, I was not expecting anything this large - either in terms of P/T or CMC. Her size just makes her unwieldly, and keeps her out of decks that would most want to make use of her indestructible ability. Something a little more playable would have been nice, maybe at the 6 CMC range, tops. Especially in the current format with the popularity of Phantasmal Image and Phyrexian Metamorph, being Legendary is a drawback, and should help mitigate the CMC. She could have easily been a 6/7 or even 7/7 for 3WWW, and at least she would have been a contender for the titan slot. At 8 CMC, I can't think of a deck I'd want to put her in (outside of EDH of course).
Or, as another idea, instead of indestructible permanents, what if she had an ETB effect along the lines of "When Avacyn enters the battlefield, exile target creature (or permanent?). Creatures you control gain protection from that creature's color(s) (until end of turn, or while Avacyn is in play?). To me, that would fit the flavor a bit better, and would have made for a more interesting card to play, possibly making the high cost worth fitting her into a deck.
Lets look at her from a few angles:
Flavor:
She is the soul of the plane basically, and the god to which the people pray. She is on the level of Ionia in terms of size/cost/power, and flavorfully, Ionia and Avacyn are quite similar. Both are god-angels, and the protectors of their planes. She makes her followers indestructible, much like Ionia's protection from a chosen color.
Playability:
She is a viable addition to archtypes like B/W tokens and frites/reanimator/solar flare. She is not necessarily the best possibility for each of these, but she works.
Timmyness:
an 8/8 for 8 with a good ability, awesome
johnnyness:
Lets see what things I can combo her with to make sure nothing I control ever dies
Spike:
Reanimator target that adds redundancy to an already good deck, mmk.
Mythicness:
The aspects to look at for mythicness: flavor, playability, etc.
Her flavor is great, she is the savior of Avacyn, and a giant scary beast (much more on the level of Ionia or Akroma than say...primeval titan)
Her mythic playability is almost prefect. She will certainly see some play, but probably won't be a staple to the same level as Elesh Norn or other mythic staples. News flash, that is *exactly what wizards wants for mythics* they should be good, but not format defining, they should be flavorful and feel mythic, and they should be playable but not necessary.
So, she'll cost under $10, be a nice card, to have, and a good EDH card/general too.
Seems quite nice all things considered.
Elesh Norn is far superior. This might be run alognside Elash, but there is no way she is a better target for reanimation. Ofcourse there are situations where she would be better, but the same could be said of ANY card. There are situation where Emrakul's Crucher is better than Norn, but that doesn't mean Crusher is the better card in general. Lets look at it this way...
%70 of the time Elash will be the better choice
%30 of the time this Angel will be the better choice.
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Would you rather have this, or Elesh? This, or Karn...for two turns?
I'd rather they'd just swapped this card with Thalia - I'd be fine if Avacyn turned out to be small, well costed, and have a meaningful ability.
What exactly about "protector of all humanity and singlehandedly responsible for maintaining balance in Innistrad" suggests "small" to you?
OOOOOOOOOOR they could have made an easily splashable utility or token generator card like 4W whenever an opponent cast a spell put an angel token into play.
Instead You get 8CC "I fly, I big, I scary. Boo!" dopey angel that adds nothing to the current standard.
Frites doesn't want it anymore than they want moldgraf monstrosity. The current creature package is infinitely better.
Aggro doesn't want it as they want to be winning the game by T4 not T8.
Control doesn't want it because they have nothing they want to make indestructible.
Last time I checked, control could just pay 8 at the end of your turn and cast a ton of cats and never have to tap out on their turn.
I don't know anything about EDH so its probably good for all the EDH players.
It does seem like Wizards is pushing tournament playability down from mythics into the uncommon and rare slots which I'm ok with.
I just feel like the flagship character of the entire plane should be a little more powerful and creative.
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Which is what they intended to do, but people complain when mythics are not amazingly powerful cards.
Avacyn is not even close to being a soul of the plane, she's outside force brought in by Sorin. On the other hand Iona's actual existance is actually debatable.
In terms of being god-angels in terms of power, Avacyn is more leaning to it than Iona. There is no evidence to believe in the Continuity that Iona was the protector of Emeria, if ever she was just an archangel that had powers to hose colors and her art is just some of exaggerated representation (much like the olden stories that were twisted and turned and ended up making the Eldrazi god figures in Zendikar). The Eldrazi were colorless pretty much making her useless in the Zendikar Angel's crusade against them.
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Yeah, because if there's one thing people love, it's utility creatures at Mythic.
Last time I checked people love useful creatures so yeah, a useful mythic utility creature sounds pretty much better than a flying indestructible coat rack.
Oh noez, storyline talk.
Iona, (why did I spell that Ionia in my post >.<) was the kor(?)'s god/angel and was their sort of belief/representation of emrakul.
Avacyn, although not the soul of a plane, is certianly a very central figure to lore and belief in the plane, and is the core of the Avacynian church's belief system.
@GNP:
because
equipment at mythic seems to go over well (equipment, one type of utility card)
as does other utility
Plus the whole 9/9/9 as an inversion of 6/6/6 would have been a nice flavor touch.
If Griselbrand isn't 6/6/6, then I'll lose all faith in R&D.
She is not particularlly stellar, but maybe there could be support in Innistrad to make her playable in Standard. I mean, the pictures we have been given so far seem belong largely to Angels, who are rarely cheap creatures. This abnormal amount of fatties could mean that Wizards will try to go for a "different" gameplay experience. Like they did with ROE.
So wait, are all the titans devil spawn?
Yes, but outside of certain decks, proggy and the eldrazi weren't stellar. Emmy needed some insane ramp to work well, and if one was going to do that, they might as well have played valakut titan, since they did things in (loosely) similar ways.