I must say, I have had draft decks with more synergy than these two.
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Saying that you sometimes wish people (in this case the implication is the staff) would fall down a well and get AIDS is hardly appropriate for the forum.
If the store owner says that I can't trade in the premises, I'll just go outside. If he says that I can't trade within 10m of his premises, I'll go to 11 meters. If he says that he doesn't want to see me trading, I will put a basket over his head and continue trading.
Yes, he's a local legend. He's only known to take his clothes off before he goes into the Ladies' Lockerroom. Nobody knows what he does in there because he's invisible, but it's almost certainly tons of masturbating.
If you buy crap, WotC will continue to produce crap.
Lol yeah, sometimes there's *just* enough stuff to make a person get it. For me, if I were to get a set, it'd be for Venser, Koth, Path (alt art), and 2x Preordain (alt art). That's just about enough for me to get it. Even though ultimately it'll be meh.
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
But there are those little glistening pieces of chocolate in the crap... Gotta just eat it all!
LOL... so very, very true.
I went to get this yesterday despite knowing how horrible it is-
I have an office buddy who plays so I thought we would square off.
The shop I went to didn't have it,
so I bought PDS: Fire and NPH "War of Attrition" Event Deck instead.
That's kinda similar, right? R vs. W ?
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Wow, I watched the games, these decks played worse than a 4 man draft decks in my opinion.
That's the point, though. They're supposed to be balanced. It isn't about buliding the best possible deck out of the available card pool to bend the matchup in your favor and have the highest win percentage like at a tournament. Duel decks can have cool stories like the game you won with Healing Salve. Sure, it's not the best combat trick ever, but it can have its moments.
Of course, they do let you play with a few really powerful cards in every deck. You also get to take a walk down memory lane through all those past blocks and you even get to cast that big dragon that just wasn't good enough for real Magic.
i feel the same. i hated the decks, but i need that koth, cause koth's regular pic just sucks!!!!! and you get some nice stuff such as preordain, path, venser and emblems...
i feel the same. i hated the decks, but i need that koth, cause koth's regular pic just sucks!!!!! and you get some nice stuff such as preordain, path, venser and emblems...
I actually like Koth's regular picture more. Having said that, I'd still be interested in picking one of these up (MAYBE...the set is rather meh), because I'm trying to collect the planeswalkers and all of their different artworks.
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
Played by buddies decks(I'm still waiting for mine to ship)
These decks are very unbalanced, The record ended up being 14-0 in Koths favor.
Only one game got close when I was playing venser, drew both preordains and Path'd a fatty then Overuled a volley then used safe passage and drew a venser against my opponents far better creatures, I could chain so many cool etb effects with venser and chip away at my opponent's lifetotal with my super cool unblockables, Oh wait there are no good target's for the blink effect, SCOOP! "My turn to play koth this list is garbage."
Venser's list to sum up with my buddies comment, "If I didn't already know who made this deck I would guess it was made by someone who never played magic competitively and has zero deck building skills."
There isn't enough lifelink and the board presence is awful for venser, so when you got an overrule in hand and need health fast, all your Opp needs to do is NOT play any more spells since Koths critter are better anyway, you don't need to play the game winning burn spells until Venser must tap out for it's rares which do nothing when Koth throws mountains in your face.
Koths list isn't as bad, but still could have been much better and fun-er.
Played by buddies decks(I'm still waiting for mine to ship)
These decks are very unbalanced, The record ended up being 14-0 in Koths favor.
Only one game got close when I was playing venser, drew both preordains and Path'd a fatty then Overuled a volley then used safe passage and drew a venser against my opponents far better creatures, I could chain so many cool etb effects with venser and chip away at my opponent's lifetotal with my super cool unblockables, Oh wait there are no good target's for the blink effect, SCOOP! "My turn to play koth this list is garbage."
Venser's list to sum up with my buddies comment, "If I didn't already know who made this deck I would guess it was made by someone who never played magic competitively and has zero deck building skills."
There isn't enough lifelink and the board presence is awful for venser, so when you got an overrule in hand and need health fast, all your Opp needs to do is NOT play any more spells since Koths critter are better anyway, you don't need to play the game winning burn spells until Venser must tap out for it's rares which do nothing when Koth throws mountains in your face.
Koths list isn't as bad, but still could have been much better and fun-er.
Yeah, that's my issue with these lists. Venser's doesn't even seem all the fun, since it doesn't seem to take too much advantage of Venser at all. I wasn't expecting good decks from these, but I expect decent synergy, not intro pack level cards. I felt like even the older Duel Decks played better.
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
You have to be careful with that, though-
the exile is not a choice, so if you go overboard,
you'll end up exiling *your* stuff, too.
For that same reason, stacking Venser emblems is not always recommended.
Hm, never thought about that. *Course, should never really be a problem, because emblems take time to stack, and you might not have exiled everything just yet.
That said though, I'll keep it in mind next time I play a group game. haha
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
I am still trying to work out if I add a general and 40 more cards (a couple more since I am also removing the doubles to make an EDH deck)
I think Koths would actually work fairly well with Ashling, the pilgrim... he hits those mountains every turn that she needs to do.
Vensers has some parts for a blink deck but he is missing a lot of important cards. slith strider is so completely useless. Sunblast angel and Sphinx of uuthum are EDH staples almost though.
it is $30 at my LGS... which is not worth it on the value of the cards alone.
I am still trying to work out if I add a general and 40 more cards (a couple more since I am also removing the doubles to make an EDH deck)
I think Koths would actually work fairly well with Ashling, the pilgrim... he hits those mountains every turn that she needs to do.
Vensers has some parts for a blink deck but he is missing a lot of important cards. slith strider is so completely useless. Sunblast angel and Sphinx of uuthum are EDH staples almost though.
it is $30 at my LGS... which is not worth it on the value of the cards alone.
I don't see why they marked it up. It's gonna be hard enough to get these to sell. There aren't really any all-star cards in here.
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
Well he might not be in the USA; retail here is $27 although a lot of places already have it discounted down...
All I got was a playset of Paths off ebay; which was a much better spend of almost $20 than the deck.
Yeah, that might be it. I hadn't thought about that.
Nice. How much did you get the Path playset for? I want Preordain, Path, Venser, Koth, and the two tokens. That's mainly it. Unfortunately, I feel like the two walkers alone are gonna add up to around $10...which I may as well shell out for the whole duel deck. :/
I mean, the other stuff like nerfed fetchlands, Geopede alt art, and Anger alt art are cool too, so I guess it won't be too bad...and this is how wizards make their sales.
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
Well he might not be in the USA; retail here is $27 although a lot of places already have it discounted down...
I don't live in the USA... I live in the middle of nowhere, Perth Australia, where everyone makes too much money, we never had a recession and so everything is expensive.
It also takes months to get anything off ebay although apparently there was some stuff up that made it take forever to get here last time
Built a whole standard deck for $15 though...
I enjoy building decks with "rubbish" cards and still think I could of done a better job of these than WotC without adding anything to the cost of the decks.
I think there's a good chance local stores might discount this DD. It seems the reception to this deck is even poorer than Ajani Vs Bolas. I have not seen or heard anyone wanting to buy it compared to when Ajani DD was released.
If the store owner says that I can't trade in the premises, I'll just go outside. If he says that I can't trade within 10m of his premises, I'll go to 11 meters. If he says that he doesn't want to see me trading, I will put a basket over his head and continue trading.
Yes, he's a local legend. He's only known to take his clothes off before he goes into the Ladies' Lockerroom. Nobody knows what he does in there because he's invisible, but it's almost certainly tons of masturbating.
I think there's a good chance local stores might discount this DD. It seems the reception to this deck is even poorer than Ajani Vs Bolas. I have not seen or heard anyone wanting to buy it compared to when Ajani DD was released.
What was the reception on Ajani vs. Bolas? If memory serves, it was poor too, but not as bad as Venser vs. Koth.
The set might actually be worth it for Bolas and Ajani alone...Idk...not sure.
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
If the store owner says that I can't trade in the premises, I'll just go outside. If he says that I can't trade within 10m of his premises, I'll go to 11 meters. If he says that he doesn't want to see me trading, I will put a basket over his head and continue trading.
Yes, he's a local legend. He's only known to take his clothes off before he goes into the Ladies' Lockerroom. Nobody knows what he does in there because he's invisible, but it's almost certainly tons of masturbating.
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I must say, I have had draft decks with more synergy than these two.
Dear kbx41,
You have received a warning at MTG Salvation Forums.
Reason:
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Saying that you sometimes wish people (in this case the implication is the staff) would fall down a well and get AIDS is hardly appropriate for the forum.
I have 28 different EDH decks
Wow, I watched the games, these decks played worse than a 4 man draft decks in my opinion.
That's what I was thinking. The Path is really ugly. Will be picking these up tomorrow, even though it's mostly crap.
GRRWHazezon Tamar (Valakut)GRRW
UKami of the Crescent Moon (
Group Hug)UUHeidar, Rimewind Master [Mini-Primer]U
WKemba, Kha Regent (Stax)W
GEzuri, Renegade Leader [Primer]G
Magic players in a nutshell.
If you buy crap, WotC will continue to produce crap.
Lol yeah, sometimes there's *just* enough stuff to make a person get it. For me, if I were to get a set, it'd be for Venser, Koth, Path (alt art), and 2x Preordain (alt art). That's just about enough for me to get it. Even though ultimately it'll be meh.
Otherwise, yeah this set is so unexciting.
But there are those little glistening pieces of chocolate in the crap... Gotta just eat it all!
GRRWHazezon Tamar (Valakut)GRRW
UKami of the Crescent Moon (
Group Hug)UUHeidar, Rimewind Master [Mini-Primer]U
WKemba, Kha Regent (Stax)W
GEzuri, Renegade Leader [Primer]G
LOL... so very, very true.
I went to get this yesterday despite knowing how horrible it is-
I have an office buddy who plays so I thought we would square off.
The shop I went to didn't have it,
so I bought PDS: Fire and NPH "War of Attrition" Event Deck instead.
That's kinda similar, right? R vs. W ?
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
That's the point, though. They're supposed to be balanced. It isn't about buliding the best possible deck out of the available card pool to bend the matchup in your favor and have the highest win percentage like at a tournament. Duel decks can have cool stories like the game you won with Healing Salve. Sure, it's not the best combat trick ever, but it can have its moments.
Of course, they do let you play with a few really powerful cards in every deck. You also get to take a walk down memory lane through all those past blocks and you even get to cast that big dragon that just wasn't good enough for real Magic.
I actually like Koth's regular picture more. Having said that, I'd still be interested in picking one of these up (MAYBE...the set is rather meh), because I'm trying to collect the planeswalkers and all of their different artworks.
These decks are very unbalanced, The record ended up being 14-0 in Koths favor.
Only one game got close when I was playing venser, drew both preordains and Path'd a fatty then Overuled a volley then used safe passage and drew a venser against my opponents far better creatures, I could chain so many cool etb effects with venser and chip away at my opponent's lifetotal with my super cool unblockables, Oh wait there are no good target's for the blink effect, SCOOP! "My turn to play koth this list is garbage."
Venser's list to sum up with my buddies comment, "If I didn't already know who made this deck I would guess it was made by someone who never played magic competitively and has zero deck building skills."
There isn't enough lifelink and the board presence is awful for venser, so when you got an overrule in hand and need health fast, all your Opp needs to do is NOT play any more spells since Koths critter are better anyway, you don't need to play the game winning burn spells until Venser must tap out for it's rares which do nothing when Koth throws mountains in your face.
Koths list isn't as bad, but still could have been much better and fun-er.
Yeah, that's my issue with these lists. Venser's doesn't even seem all the fun, since it doesn't seem to take too much advantage of Venser at all. I wasn't expecting good decks from these, but I expect decent synergy, not intro pack level cards. I felt like even the older Duel Decks played better.
You have to be careful with that, though-
the exile is not a choice, so if you go overboard,
you'll end up exiling *your* stuff, too.
For that same reason, stacking Venser emblems is not always recommended.
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
|One Red Mountain - A adventure in MTG Trading|
Hm, never thought about that. *Course, should never really be a problem, because emblems take time to stack, and you might not have exiled everything just yet.
That said though, I'll keep it in mind next time I play a group game. haha
Yeah...*just* anger might be kinda pushing it.
I think Koths would actually work fairly well with Ashling, the pilgrim... he hits those mountains every turn that she needs to do.
Vensers has some parts for a blink deck but he is missing a lot of important cards. slith strider is so completely useless. Sunblast angel and Sphinx of uuthum are EDH staples almost though.
it is $30 at my LGS... which is not worth it on the value of the cards alone.
Pioneer:UR Pheonix
Modern:U Mono U Tron
EDH
GB Glissa, the traitor: Army of Cans
UW Dragonlord Ojutai: Dragonlord NOjutai
UWGDerevi, Empyrial Tactician "you cannot fight the storm"
R Zirilan of the claw. The solution to every problem is dragons
UB Etrata, the Silencer Cloning assassination
Peasant cube: Cards I own
Well, to the ones who has opened the packs... What are the land arts? I was hoping for Mirrodin land art...
I don't see why they marked it up. It's gonna be hard enough to get these to sell. There aren't really any all-star cards in here.
Yeah, that might be it. I hadn't thought about that.
Nice. How much did you get the Path playset for? I want Preordain, Path, Venser, Koth, and the two tokens. That's mainly it. Unfortunately, I feel like the two walkers alone are gonna add up to around $10...which I may as well shell out for the whole duel deck. :/
I mean, the other stuff like nerfed fetchlands, Geopede alt art, and Anger alt art are cool too, so I guess it won't be too bad...and this is how wizards make their sales.
I don't live in the USA... I live in the middle of nowhere, Perth Australia, where everyone makes too much money, we never had a recession and so everything is expensive.
It also takes months to get anything off ebay although apparently there was some stuff up that made it take forever to get here last time
Built a whole standard deck for $15 though...
I enjoy building decks with "rubbish" cards and still think I could of done a better job of these than WotC without adding anything to the cost of the decks.
Pioneer:UR Pheonix
Modern:U Mono U Tron
EDH
GB Glissa, the traitor: Army of Cans
UW Dragonlord Ojutai: Dragonlord NOjutai
UWGDerevi, Empyrial Tactician "you cannot fight the storm"
R Zirilan of the claw. The solution to every problem is dragons
UB Etrata, the Silencer Cloning assassination
Peasant cube: Cards I own
What was the reception on Ajani vs. Bolas? If memory serves, it was poor too, but not as bad as Venser vs. Koth.
The set might actually be worth it for Bolas and Ajani alone...Idk...not sure.
Back then, The reception for Ajani Vs Bolas in my area was poor. The reception for Venser Vs Koth now is non-existence.