All righty... Normally I don't post on the forums via rumors, but I looked everywhere and I couldn't find any info anywhere.
Apparantly some/All stores running a pre-release event will be getting a Helvault, that is unlocked as players win games/matches. Inside of the vault will have prizes, able to be unlocked with Keys given to players. They were Very sketchy with details of the prizes contained.
They also are giving the specific TO 2 of these things, because he runs a bigger Pre-release event then most. They could be giving Prizes in these vaults Other then booster packs.
I'll have pictures once He actually receives them, seems like a pretty cool promotional tool, he's planning on putting it behind the glass case and make signs for it to promote the pre-release event.
EDIT (April 18th): As of this week we know what will be in the Helvault, It is oversized angel cards, angel tokens, and 20-sided dice for AVR.
The links on Tumblr for pictures have been taken down due to Wizards possible involvement of prosecution over the subject. The rumor of how it was spoiled is that the specific shop received a damaged HelVault with the contents spilling out of the box it was inside of.
My personal views on this subject matter is that if you are spending more money for Helvault pre-release, find yourself another store to play. Not only is it disrespectful for the TO to make more money from a customer by charging more money for product they received for free, but it's even more disrespectful to the customer that has to pay 40-50 dollars for an Event just to receive 1-3 of these prizes that are supposed to be given out as a "thank you" for playing.
This type of attitude to abuse a system that Wizards used to encourage game play and enjoyability of a pre-release event just gives enormous amounts of disrespect to TO's that do the right thing and keep their tournament prices down, make sure there are proper amounts of matches for the amount of players participating, and proper prize support (and ample) for players that spend more then 6 hours in their store winning a tournament.
Please, take those Tournament Organizers with a grain of salt, and I even suggest that you send an e-mail to Wizards Help desk By Following http://wizards.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1717 and doing so. This will not only prevent this amount of dishonesty of happening again, but will also slap the TO on the wrist and make it aware that they don't have the right to raise prices for specific events due to free merchandise that is Supporsed to be given out to as many players as possible.
And for the TO's that are not disrespectful in that fashion, My suggestion would be to mix in extra promotional cards that you have a great deal of (Extra FNM, Extra Give-Away's, Extra Promo Cards) to lessen the strain on yourselves after this is released. New players will think what's in it is cool, but I know here in NJ where there are a lot of competitive players that this is going to be the "Sore Thumb" in the room.
Edit (April 19th): Uploading pictures leeched from other forum thread for contents of Helvault.
I am glad Wotc caught up with what most LGS in my area were already doing. I am very interested in what type of 'prizes' are in the vault and how many can partake in the event. I know there will be a sign up at my LGS for this and they said only a limited amount of people can do it each pre-release.
That would actually be cool if they have it so that it has a few prints of every demon card in the set plus Avacyn. That way, Demons gets a big bang of alt art awesomeness.
The TO at one of the LGSes I play at mentioned last night (as part of an announcement regarding preregistration) that the Helvault weighs about 50 pounds. The store has two of them for two events, but of course they haven't received them yet so I can't really confirm or deny this at all.
If my LGS is holding a total of 4 events, and I can only participate in the final one, (thanks to my exam schedule, astrophysics on a Saturday @ 11am... ugh) what do you think the odds are of the Helvault(s) being depleted by that time? I really want to participate, but I would be terrified of doing poorly on an exam because I went to a midnight prerelease :/
If my LGS is holding a total of 4 events, and I can only participate in the final one, (thanks to my exam schedule, astrophysics on a Saturday @ 11am... ugh) what do you think the odds are of the Helvault(s) being depleted by that time? I really want to participate, but I would be terrified of doing poorly on an exam because I went to a midnight prerelease :/
From what I was told, the helvault is depleted after only one event >>
Depending on the number of participants I'm assuming
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If my LGS is holding a total of 4 events, and I can only participate in the final one, (thanks to my exam schedule, astrophysics on a Saturday @ 11am... ugh) what do you think the odds are of the Helvault(s) being depleted by that time? I really want to participate, but I would be terrified of doing poorly on an exam because I went to a midnight prerelease :/
Yes, each Helvault is for one prerelease tournament. Not every prerelease tournament will have a Helvault associated with it (per the Arcana and the solicitation sheet previously posted on here). Per my LGS each one has prizes for up to 54 players, organized in three tiers.
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Yes, each Helvault is for one prerelease tournament. Not every prerelease tournament will have a Helvault associated with it (per the Arcana and the solicitation sheet previously posted on here). Per my LGS each one has prizes for up to 54 players, organized in three tiers.
Well damn. Looks like I'll be sleeping all of Friday before midnight then! If I blow astrophysics, I blame you, WOTC.
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Just claim a Family Emergency and make it up later.
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And Polendino, you're Australian! It's not 50 Kilograms,
it's 50 Pounds, which is about the weight of a can of soda.
(I'm absolutely kidding, but I am a bit surprised you comprehend pounds so readily)
When you have to put up with Americans misspelling "colour" and "aluminium", you end up learning other aspects of their broken system; in this case, knowing that 50 pounds = ~20kg. If I'm wrong, tell me, but IIRC it's around there.
50kg would be even more insane.
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When you have to put up with Americans misspelling "colour" and "aluminium"
Well, it's pretty common knowledge that we Americans *hate* the letter U.
After all, it's at the very... err, centre of commUnism.
We don't even use Blue cards here because they use the letter U to represent the mana.
On topic: 50 lbs is *crazy* heavy- there's obviously more than cards in there.
Maybe the winner also gets a Mastiff?
Or possibly resin statues of Avacyn and/or Griselbrand?
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So... why is everybody assuming it's 50 pounds? It sounds like one TO had some unfounded speculation that it was 50 pounds, a player overheard the speculation, and now everybody assuming it's true.
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
Oh god, I'd be so damn happy if they did that. Maybe second print-run? lol
Oh man, me too! Even if the second print-run's alternate art Akroma, Angel of Wrath and Lord of the Pit weren't foil, it would still be awesome!
Too bad that won't happen...
The Helvault will probably have some of the Ultrapro products, boosters, and theme decks. Maybe even promo, alternate arts. But I highly doubt these things will be fifty pounds, they would cost a butt load to ship if they were.
Apparantly some/All stores running a pre-release event will be getting a Helvault, that is unlocked as players win games/matches. Inside of the vault will have prizes, able to be unlocked with Keys given to players. They were Very sketchy with details of the prizes contained.
They also are giving the specific TO 2 of these things, because he runs a bigger Pre-release event then most. They could be giving Prizes in these vaults Other then booster packs.
I'll have pictures once He actually receives them, seems like a pretty cool promotional tool, he's planning on putting it behind the glass case and make signs for it to promote the pre-release event.
Edit: Links to information from Wizards
http://www.wizards.com/WPN/News/Arti...02_13_Helvault
http://www.wizards.com/ContentResour...tion_en_US.pdf
EDIT (April 18th): As of this week we know what will be in the Helvault, It is oversized angel cards, angel tokens, and 20-sided dice for AVR.
The links on Tumblr for pictures have been taken down due to Wizards possible involvement of prosecution over the subject. The rumor of how it was spoiled is that the specific shop received a damaged HelVault with the contents spilling out of the box it was inside of.
My personal views on this subject matter is that if you are spending more money for Helvault pre-release, find yourself another store to play. Not only is it disrespectful for the TO to make more money from a customer by charging more money for product they received for free, but it's even more disrespectful to the customer that has to pay 40-50 dollars for an Event just to receive 1-3 of these prizes that are supposed to be given out as a "thank you" for playing.
This type of attitude to abuse a system that Wizards used to encourage game play and enjoyability of a pre-release event just gives enormous amounts of disrespect to TO's that do the right thing and keep their tournament prices down, make sure there are proper amounts of matches for the amount of players participating, and proper prize support (and ample) for players that spend more then 6 hours in their store winning a tournament.
Please, take those Tournament Organizers with a grain of salt, and I even suggest that you send an e-mail to Wizards Help desk By Following http://wizards.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1717 and doing so. This will not only prevent this amount of dishonesty of happening again, but will also slap the TO on the wrist and make it aware that they don't have the right to raise prices for specific events due to free merchandise that is Supporsed to be given out to as many players as possible.
And for the TO's that are not disrespectful in that fashion, My suggestion would be to mix in extra promotional cards that you have a great deal of (Extra FNM, Extra Give-Away's, Extra Promo Cards) to lessen the strain on yourselves after this is released. New players will think what's in it is cool, but I know here in NJ where there are a lot of competitive players that this is going to be the "Sore Thumb" in the room.
Edit (April 19th): Uploading pictures leeched from other forum thread for contents of Helvault.
Most of the pictures can be found Here http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=409679
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Played: Red/Black Samoles
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PTQ in San Juan, Invited
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....Plus bringing some of the demand down. Angel and Demon collectors are already foaming in the mouth waiting for this set to come out.
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The TO at one of the LGSes I play at mentioned last night (as part of an announcement regarding preregistration) that the Helvault weighs about 50 pounds. The store has two of them for two events, but of course they haven't received them yet so I can't really confirm or deny this at all.Disregard this post.
From what I was told, the helvault is depleted after only one event >>
Depending on the number of participants I'm assuming
Played: Naya
participated in 5k Virginia Type 2
Played: Naya
1st Place WPN Qualifier for San Juan
Played: Red/Black Samoles
Tournament plans:
Grand prix D.C.
PTQ in San Juan, Invited
Playing: We'll See...
Yes, each Helvault is for one prerelease tournament. Not every prerelease tournament will have a Helvault associated with it (per the Arcana and the solicitation sheet previously posted on here). Per my LGS each one has prizes for up to 54 players, organized in three tiers.
Granted, it needn't necessarily be cards per se, just something Avacyn/Griselbrand-related.
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Well damn. Looks like I'll be sleeping all of Friday before midnight then! If I blow astrophysics, I blame you, WOTC.
Just claim a Family Emergency and make it up later.
That's how I saw Stone Temple Pilots during my Programming I final
And Polendino, you're Australian! It's not 50 Kilograms,
it's 50 Pounds, which is about the weight of a can of soda.
(I'm absolutely kidding, but I am a bit surprised you comprehend pounds so readily)
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When you have to put up with Americans misspelling "colour" and "aluminium", you end up learning other aspects of their broken system; in this case, knowing that 50 pounds = ~20kg. If I'm wrong, tell me, but IIRC it's around there.
50kg would be even more insane.
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Well, it's pretty common knowledge that we Americans *hate* the letter U.
After all, it's at the very... err, centre of commUnism.
We don't even use Blue cards here because they use the letter U to represent the mana.
On topic: 50 lbs is *crazy* heavy- there's obviously more than cards in there.
Maybe the winner also gets a Mastiff?
Or possibly resin statues of Avacyn and/or Griselbrand?
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
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Oh god, I'd be so damn happy if they did that. Maybe second print-run? lol
Oh man, me too! Even if the second print-run's alternate art Akroma, Angel of Wrath and Lord of the Pit weren't foil, it would still be awesome!
Too bad that won't happen...
The Helvault will probably have some of the Ultrapro products, boosters, and theme decks. Maybe even promo, alternate arts. But I highly doubt these things will be fifty pounds, they would cost a butt load to ship if they were.
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