This one's kind of hard for a creature. Encadenado is something that is connected or chained. I suspect it's sort of like Strangleroot Geist, kind of hard to have a translation like that. I'd have to go with, like... [Verb]-Bound Geist.
Aprendiz de alquimista – 1U
Alchemist's Apprentice
Reunir los componentes – 3U
Gather the Components
Empujar al vacío – 3U
Push Into Nothingness
These are extremely rough translations, as my Spanish isn't the greatest, and there's a decent amount of interpretation involved.
I like the new version of the Serendib Efreet. It could see some competitive play, as a sort of finisher for some kind of control deck. It might actually not be that good in Limited though, with all of those angels and demons flying around.
The lesser Concentrate is still really good for Limited. It's almost as good as Concentrate is.
The 3/4 flyer has potential. Also works with stuff like the Stitched Drake by ensuring you have graveyard fodder. The built in sacrifice has potential for good synergy with other cards.
Jesus, these are *awful*.
The creature might be useful in an aggro deck (good thing, we were running out of new aggro toys! ),
but the others are Limited-only jank.
As if I needed further proof WotC hates non-aggro Blue players...
At least that top middle art looks badass... :\
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Forma Fantasmal- 56. Must start with A-G
Empujar al Vacio- 42 or 47? Probably starts with A-G
Aprendia de Alquimista- ???
Geist Encadenado- 50 or 52
Frio Mutilador- 46. Must start with A-G
Reunir los Componentes- 43 or 45. Must start with A-G
So, given that info, here is what the cards are likely called. Ordered from most likely to least likely:
Forma Fantasmal- Ghost Form, Ghostly Anatomy
Empujar Al Vacio- Abjure to the Void
Geist Encadenado- Geist Enchained, Enchained Geist, Chained Geist
Frio Mutilador- Battering X, Crippling X, Crushing X; X= Chill, cold, or any related synonyms
Reunir los Componentes- Amass X, Aggregate X, Accumulate X; X= Components, Materials, or related synonyms
I'm glad wizards didn't completely eliminate real spoilers. yay for all the new stuff rolling in. best one is the draw three and bottom one card. odds are you'll have art least one bad card you don't mind pitching to the bottom of the library.
also, the sacrifice guy is a fun way in limited to try and hit s miracle on opponents turn. draw card and pray for miracle.
I don't like the theme of the loner guys. but maybe midrange control will be a limited archetype because of them. we'll see.
I'm liking that 3/4 Geist, is it possible he can replace good ole Saint Traft? I know he's not hexproof, but he also has a hard time being blocked and kills delvers.
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I'm liking that 3/4 Geist, is it possible he can replace good ole Saint Traft? I know he's not hexproof, but he also has a hard time being blocked and kills delvers.
The 3/4 Geist is awful. What deck would want their mana tied up like that? Stitched Drake didn't see much play, and this will see even less.
I do enjoy how this set so far has been received as incredibly powerful, and as soon as people see the commons they are freaking out over how weak they are...
If that 2U 3/4 geist is real, it seems strong for cube. Very efficient body and even if there's another creature in play, its upkeep isn't that bad (although it gets awkward with 2+, but obviously you can play around that/design around it.)
The 3/4 Geist is awful. What deck would want their mana tied up like that? Stitched Drake didn't see much play, and this will see even less.
From my understanding, the new 3/4 geist charges 1 mana for each other creature one controls. Therefore, it doesn't charge if it is the only creature. For Blue-control, this can act as a de facto removal spell, as the 4 toughness is extremely relevant (in combat) against red and white.
Secondly, the drawback causes an interesting interaction, a tension, with an opponent. The opponent is leary to use a removal spell on this creature, as he or she may believe that its removal can be achieved if the controller of this creature refuses to pay the upkeep charges; otherwise (from the opponent's perspective) the controller may choose not to play more creatures. It is a dilemma not just for the controller, but also the opponent.
Stitched Drake saw at least SB play, and I think that in certain archetypes, this could be much better.
Stitched Drake saw at least SB play, and I think that in certain archetypes, this could be much better.
Stitched Drake occasionally saw play in Delver. Delver will never play this guy, though. I don't see it being an option for control, either. If you have other creatures, it's an albatross. If you have no other creatures, your opponent plays their Vapor Snag or Geth's Verdict, or runs it over with a titan.
Alchemist is pretty good for Soulbound since you can cantrip-break it whenever you want for free.
The frost cantrip is very nice against the loner decks since you deprive them of 6+ damage from their race.
The draw spell seems really nice, but expensive and lets you ditch even more expensive miracles that you draw into for action.
With the 2/1 card draw Soulbound guy, I could see running the infiltration spell. I don't think it's as good as the one with flashback though since you need two good creatures on the board at the same time.
Yes, I'm aware of that. My point is that both have a drawback that prevents them from being useful in a competitive deck.
In aggro - of course not. In control - maybe.
It's not huge mana sink to lose it to 2 mana removal spells or recast it after snag. The fact is, this spirit blocks delver and others as good as consecrated sphinx, can pressure walkers and costs only 3 mana.
Forma Fantasmal- 56. Must start with A-G
Empujar al Vacio- 42 or 47? Probably starts with A-G
Aprendia de Alquimista- ???
Geist Encadenado- 50 or 52
Frio Mutilador- 46. Must start with A-G
Reunir los Componentes- 43 or 45. Must start with A-G
So, given that info, here is what the cards are likely called. Ordered from most likely to least likely:
Forma Fantasmal- Ghost Form, Ghostly Anatomy
Empujar Al Vacio- Abjure to the Void
Geist Encadenado- Geist Enchained, Enchained Geist, Chained Geist
Frio Mutilador- Battering X, Crippling X, Crushing X; X= Chill, cold, or any related synonyms
Reunir los Componentes- Amass X, Aggregate X, Accumulate X; X= Components, Materials, or related synonyms
I'd say the most likely names are:
Ghost Form
*
Chained Geist (nice thinking on this, dunno why I didn't think of it)
Crippling Cold
Gather the Components
* I really think it's Push Into Nothingness. Is there anything in the name and number crunch that would disprove this? It's flavorful. The verb "empujar" really has a lot of translations, so it's sort of difficult to place.
Also, if a mod used my translations, please put Alchemist's Apprentice, and not Apprentice Alchemist. In Spanish, possession is shown via "de," so it is definitely not Apprentice Alchemist.
Also, here's the flavor texts of what I can read:
Ghost Form
Nothing is impenetrable.
Gather the Components:
I knew it would end by using all the salamander saliva!
Chain Geist
The decisions of the living are tied to death.
Push Into Nothingness and Alchemist's Apprentice are too blurry, and Chilling Cold is way too complicated (though I'm working on it).
EDIT: I think Chilling Cold's is this, though the bit about the beating might be wrong:
With the Geist's breath veins become rivers of ice and hearts freeze while beating.
That gather the components has me all hot for my lab maniac EDH deck. Demonic Consultation basically means I get 4 cards for 5 mana to help me combo off.
so that draw 3 put one on the bottom of your lybary is a bad and sorcery version of brainstorm. at least you draw 3 your might get the card you need. i see it being played as a 2 of in a control deck. seem's ok.
i would draft this card for the draw 3 abllity though.
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Forma fantasmal – 1U
Shape of Phantoms
Frío mutilador – 2U
Crippling Cold
Geist encadenado – 2U
This one's kind of hard for a creature. Encadenado is something that is connected or chained. I suspect it's sort of like Strangleroot Geist, kind of hard to have a translation like that. I'd have to go with, like... [Verb]-Bound Geist.
Aprendiz de alquimista – 1U
Alchemist's Apprentice
Reunir los componentes – 3U
Gather the Components
Empujar al vacío – 3U
Push Into Nothingness
These are extremely rough translations, as my Spanish isn't the greatest, and there's a decent amount of interpretation involved.
The lesser Concentrate is still really good for Limited. It's almost as good as Concentrate is.
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Or it's Sift adjusted to compensate for being in a format with Flashback.
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The creature might be useful in an aggro deck (good thing, we were running out of new aggro toys! ),
but the others are Limited-only jank.
As if I needed further proof WotC hates non-aggro Blue players...
At least that top middle art looks badass... :\
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Forma Fantasmal- 56. Must start with A-G
Empujar al Vacio- 42 or 47? Probably starts with A-G
Aprendia de Alquimista- ???
Geist Encadenado- 50 or 52
Frio Mutilador- 46. Must start with A-G
Reunir los Componentes- 43 or 45. Must start with A-G
So, given that info, here is what the cards are likely called. Ordered from most likely to least likely:
Forma Fantasmal- Ghost Form, Ghostly Anatomy
Empujar Al Vacio- Abjure to the Void
Geist Encadenado- Geist Enchained, Enchained Geist, Chained Geist
Frio Mutilador- Battering X, Crippling X, Crushing X; X= Chill, cold, or any related synonyms
Reunir los Componentes- Amass X, Aggregate X, Accumulate X; X= Components, Materials, or related synonyms
Frío mutilador – 2U
Instant
Tap target creature. It doesn’t untap during its controller’s next untap step.
Draw a card.
This card will see play in Standard. It's really good.
also, the sacrifice guy is a fun way in limited to try and hit s miracle on opponents turn. draw card and pray for miracle.
I don't like the theme of the loner guys. but maybe midrange control will be a limited archetype because of them. we'll see.
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Modern:
Grishoalbrand / Grixis Death's Shadow / Jeskai Control / UW Control
The 3/4 Geist is awful. What deck would want their mana tied up like that? Stitched Drake didn't see much play, and this will see even less.
MTGS egos at their finest.
Thoughts on proxies:
Drake's 'remove a creature' clause prevented it from being reliably cast on turn 3.
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From my understanding, the new 3/4 geist charges 1 mana for each other creature one controls. Therefore, it doesn't charge if it is the only creature. For Blue-control, this can act as a de facto removal spell, as the 4 toughness is extremely relevant (in combat) against red and white.
Secondly, the drawback causes an interesting interaction, a tension, with an opponent. The opponent is leary to use a removal spell on this creature, as he or she may believe that its removal can be achieved if the controller of this creature refuses to pay the upkeep charges; otherwise (from the opponent's perspective) the controller may choose not to play more creatures. It is a dilemma not just for the controller, but also the opponent.
Stitched Drake saw at least SB play, and I think that in certain archetypes, this could be much better.
Yes, I'm aware of that. My point is that both have a drawback that prevents them from being useful in a competitive deck.
Stitched Drake occasionally saw play in Delver. Delver will never play this guy, though. I don't see it being an option for control, either. If you have other creatures, it's an albatross. If you have no other creatures, your opponent plays their Vapor Snag or Geth's Verdict, or runs it over with a titan.
The frost cantrip is very nice against the loner decks since you deprive them of 6+ damage from their race.
The draw spell seems really nice, but expensive and lets you ditch even more expensive miracles that you draw into for action.
With the 2/1 card draw Soulbound guy, I could see running the infiltration spell. I don't think it's as good as the one with flashback though since you need two good creatures on the board at the same time.
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In aggro - of course not. In control - maybe.
It's not huge mana sink to lose it to 2 mana removal spells or recast it after snag. The fact is, this spirit blocks delver and others as good as consecrated sphinx, can pressure walkers and costs only 3 mana.
I'd say the most likely names are:
Ghost Form
*
Chained Geist (nice thinking on this, dunno why I didn't think of it)
Crippling Cold
Gather the Components
* I really think it's Push Into Nothingness. Is there anything in the name and number crunch that would disprove this? It's flavorful. The verb "empujar" really has a lot of translations, so it's sort of difficult to place.
Also, if a mod used my translations, please put Alchemist's Apprentice, and not Apprentice Alchemist. In Spanish, possession is shown via "de," so it is definitely not Apprentice Alchemist.
Also, here's the flavor texts of what I can read:
Ghost Form
Nothing is impenetrable.
Gather the Components:
I knew it would end by using all the salamander saliva!
Chain Geist
The decisions of the living are tied to death.
Push Into Nothingness and Alchemist's Apprentice are too blurry, and Chilling Cold is way too complicated (though I'm working on it).
EDIT: I think Chilling Cold's is this, though the bit about the beating might be wrong:
With the Geist's breath veins become rivers of ice and hearts freeze while beating.
Demonic Consultation basically means I get 4 cards for 5 mana to help me combo off.
i would draft this card for the draw 3 abllity though.