This does sound fun, but I hope there's no other major enablers for getting gates. Right now this sounds like a fun land that'd probably be enjoyable for a casual deck and seems flavorful.
Plus, does anyone really want to think about how horrific it would be if a mythic rare land was the cornerstone of a highly played and successful deck?
The chances it would be expensive after presale hype are pretty much zero. I don't see how it could be as good as Valakut with Scapeshift since that takes a lot fewer lands. Eye of Ugin's seen play in a Modern deck, too, and it's not expensive. A mythic gate win land is probably legendary and probably doesn't tap itself for mana (it might be able to untap gates, though). That means even if it is competitive, it's probably a one of.
I'm expecting something like this. I can forgive the land not producing mana if it makes all your other lands better.
How about;
"Whenever a Gate enters the battlefield under your control, you may put a land card from your hand onto the battlefield/draw a card/add one mana of any color to your mana pool.
When you control 10 or more Gates, you win the game."
This gets around the ETBT of the gates, in a soft way, and strictly encourages a Gate themed deck.
This does sound fun, but I hope there's no other major enablers for getting gates. Right now this sounds like a fun land that'd probably be enjoyable for a casual deck and seems flavorful.
Plus, does anyone really want to think about how horrific it would be if a mythic rare land was the cornerstone of a highly played and successful deck?
I agree. It's slow but so what, I have no problem with it being a casual only card. Considering that it would also be uncounterable, very difficult to disrupt, and doesn't cost any mana, it has to have some drawback.
And you can speed it up a little with Urban Evolution. In other formats cards like Scapeshift and Explore and such also become possibilities.
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It seems the most likely name for this card would be the Implicit Maze since that name is used here. If this is indeed a card, it makes for a pretty interesting alternate win-con.
Dragon’s Maze
Legendary Land T: Add 1 to your mana pool. ,T: You may put a nonbasic land card from your hand onto the battlefield tapped.
At the beginning of the end step, if you control ten or more Gates, you win the game.
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Or:
Dragon’s Maze
Legendary Land ,T: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool. ,T: Search your library for a land card, reveal it, and put it into the battlefield tapped. Then shuffle your library.
At the beginning of the end step, if you control ten or more Gates, you win the game
---
It's going to need to have something like that on it to make the strategy a viable one. Turn 11 wins aren't very good, and its going to be HARD to draw 10 gates.
It will be even harder to GET 10 gates in limited. Even if every pack has one, people will likely fight each other for them in draft. Yet, lands are hard to stop. So, who knows?
They've said time and time again they'll not make any utility lands/cards mythic, but I have a feeling this will be an exception to that 'rule.' They also can't make too many cards in the set about getting Gates, it would be like designing a set around Door or something.
Dragon’s Maze
Legendary Land ,T: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool. ,T: Search your library for a land card, reveal it, and put it into the battlefield tapped. Then shuffle your library.
At the beginning of the end step, if you control ten or more Gates, you win the game
ANY land?! This is ba-ba-BROKEN!
The first one is printable, though.
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every pack is going to either have a Gate or a shock
Wait, I think I missed something here.
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ANY land?! This is ba-ba-BROKEN!
The first one is printable, though.
Yeah, I thought about it and I think you're likely right. The ability should probably be at least7 like Eye of Ugin. However, I felt this was likely more flavorful, and balanced:
Dragon’s Maze
Legendary Land ,T: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool. WUBRG,T: Search your library for a land card, reveal it, and put it into the battlefield tapped. Then shuffle your library.
At the beginning of the end step, if you control ten or more Gates, you win the game.
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But, I hope it's got something that will help you get Gates into play faster than turn 11. It will be pretty dumb otherwise, since there are few ways of getting Gates into play faster than land dropping.
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It probably would be more elegant like:
Dragon’s Maze
Legendary Land ,T: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool. WUBRG,T: Search your library for a land card, reveal it, and put it into the battlefield tapped. Then if you control ten or more Gates, you win the game. Shuffle your library.
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It could also only get lands which didn't share a name with a land in play.
How about "You may discard your hand, pay 5 life, rip this card, remove 3 digits from any number of target fingers you control, and concede at the end of the next end step rather than pay It Will Go Through!!'s mana cost.
would love a mythic land, but gates? come on....they feel so forced in both RTR and GTC. no good cards at all that play into the gate land type, gates are a bust. if this land is true, it is truly a waste of a mythic land. maybe if gates where a lot more fleshed out and not just an afterthought then maybe it would rock, but as is, with all the crazy bad cards? never...
would love a mythic land, but gates? come on....they feel so forced in both RTR and GTC. no good cards at all that play into the gate land type, gates are a bust. if this land is true, it is truly a waste of a mythic land. maybe if gates where a lot more fleshed out and not just an afterthought then maybe it would rock, but as is, with all the crazy bad cards? never...
Dragon's Maze could make gates matter.
I mean until we have seen the majority of Dragon's Maze we have no idea how big of a deal gates become. Also this land gets special credit being the only win condition ever that would be impossible to disrupt without land destruction. While it is slow that has to be important to note since it can not be countered to stop it or blown up in play with a naturalize or something like Door to Nothingness.
Perhaps the first 2 sets in the block were just to give out the gates and give a taste of the gates matter cards then in Dragon's Maze they make gates have a much higher value.
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All lands in boosters are non-basic ones. That's pretty awesome. And the spoiler, well, I like forcing alternative wincons on Cockatrice or such, it could be a fun thing. What's not to like on this?
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It's obviously a joke.
My vote is Gate Expectations.
-Yavimaya Ranger
If at the beginning of the end step you control 10 or more gates, you win the game.
The chances it would be expensive after presale hype are pretty much zero. I don't see how it could be as good as Valakut with Scapeshift since that takes a lot fewer lands. Eye of Ugin's seen play in a Modern deck, too, and it's not expensive. A mythic gate win land is probably legendary and probably doesn't tap itself for mana (it might be able to untap gates, though). That means even if it is competitive, it's probably a one of.
I'm expecting something like this. I can forgive the land not producing mana if it makes all your other lands better.
How about;
"Whenever a Gate enters the battlefield under your control, you may put a land card from your hand onto the battlefield/draw a card/add one mana of any color to your mana pool.
When you control 10 or more Gates, you win the game."
This gets around the ETBT of the gates, in a soft way, and strictly encourages a Gate themed deck.
I agree. It's slow but so what, I have no problem with it being a casual only card. Considering that it would also be uncounterable, very difficult to disrupt, and doesn't cost any mana, it has to have some drawback.
And you can speed it up a little with Urban Evolution. In other formats cards like Scapeshift and Explore and such also become possibilities.
~Comes into play tapped
WUBRGT: You win the game. Use only mana from Gates to activate this ability.
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WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Legendary Land - Gate (M)
CARDNAME enters the battlefield tapped.
T: Add 1 to your mana pool.
As another Gate enters the battlefield under you control, you may pay 2 life. If you do, it enters the battlefield untapped.
WUBRG,T: You win the game. Activate this ability only during your upkeep and only if you control ten or more Gates.
Legendary Land
T: Add 1 to your mana pool.
,T: You may put a nonbasic land card from your hand onto the battlefield tapped.
At the beginning of the end step, if you control ten or more Gates, you win the game.
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Legendary Land
,T: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.
,T: Search your library for a land card, reveal it, and put it into the battlefield tapped. Then shuffle your library.
At the beginning of the end step, if you control ten or more Gates, you win the game
---
It's going to need to have something like that on it to make the strategy a viable one. Turn 11 wins aren't very good, and its going to be HARD to draw 10 gates.
It will be even harder to GET 10 gates in limited. Even if every pack has one, people will likely fight each other for them in draft. Yet, lands are hard to stop. So, who knows?
They've said time and time again they'll not make any utility lands/cards mythic, but I have a feeling this will be an exception to that 'rule.' They also can't make too many cards in the set about getting Gates, it would be like designing a set around Door or something.
ANY land?! This is ba-ba-BROKEN!
The first one is printable, though.
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
On another note, it's time Wizards begin to tighten up their secrets, how long has it been since some set did get release without major spoilers.
Wait, I think I missed something here.
DGM packs will forgo basic lands in lieu of Guild Gates, (occasional) Shock Lands, and the (*very* occasional) Mythic Land.
This may just be the prerelease packs though-
not sure if actual DGM boosters will be like this.
Reprint Stasis!
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EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Legendary Land
,T: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.
WUBRG,T: Search your library for a land card, reveal it, and put it into the battlefield tapped. Then shuffle your library.
At the beginning of the end step, if you control ten or more Gates, you win the game.
---
Edit
It probably would be more elegant like:
Legendary Land
,T: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.
WUBRG,T: Search your library for a land card, reveal it, and put it into the battlefield tapped. Then if you control ten or more Gates, you win the game. Shuffle your library.
---
I'm a supporter of this. It'll be a thing. Not agood thing, but a thing.
MTGS egos at their finest.
Thoughts on proxies:
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Dragon's Maze could make gates matter.
I mean until we have seen the majority of Dragon's Maze we have no idea how big of a deal gates become. Also this land gets special credit being the only win condition ever that would be impossible to disrupt without land destruction. While it is slow that has to be important to note since it can not be countered to stop it or blown up in play with a naturalize or something like Door to Nothingness.
Perhaps the first 2 sets in the block were just to give out the gates and give a taste of the gates matter cards then in Dragon's Maze they make gates have a much higher value.
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UBW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
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Buy All the fetches!
Create tons of EDH Decks!!!
Eat Nothing but Oats!! (LOL, not true)
Train MMA!!!
Marry My girlfriend!!!
Get her Pregnant only Once!
Teach my Son/Daughter Sports and magic cards!!!
Continue my legacy son!!!/Daughter!!
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I don't even want to THINK about RTR-block Sealed events without Gates
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
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Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Apply cold water to that burn.
All lands in boosters are non-basic ones. That's pretty awesome. And the spoiler, well, I like forcing alternative wincons on Cockatrice or such, it could be a fun thing. What's not to like on this?
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