im a little weirded out by the choices with the naya and esper decks the other three are good but those two are like not what was expected. the esper...i cant really see a good win condition idk...someone explain it to me and naya seems like the objective is get alot of land and use it for x cost things and to disrupt peoples artifacts and enchantments (but didnt put in the creature that did that...bant got that) which its commander hints at zero %. heck mayael is useless in the deck because there are so few creatures 5 or greater. these two just blind sided me by how little it seems they'll do compared to the rest
Jeru the Damaja does indeed seem pointless in this deck, and I feel it was simply a way to reprint it. It is a little sloppy, but at least for me these decks will be opened and taken apart, so it does not matter much.
I love the new artwork for many of the cards, and the Modern border on them all. Sadly, no Shivan Gorge reprint, but still, lots of fun and interesting choices.
While I still might only buy singles, the overall amount and number of new art playsets has increased tenfold, at least!
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Jeru the Damaja does indeed seem pointless in this deck, and I feel it was simply a way to reprint it. It is a little sloppy, but at least for me these decks will be opened and taken apart, so it does not matter much.
well my plan im going to take and improve upon the decks base stratagies naya, this will be easier ill probably have to completely rebuild esper and i guess ill buy jund too
im a little weirded out by the choices with the naya and esper decks the other three are good but those two are like not what was expected. the esper...i cant really see a good win condition idk
Are we looking at the same decklist? Sphinx of the steel wind, Serra Avatar, Sanguine Bond & Vizkopa guildmage, Divinity of Pride... even Ajani's Pridemate will get massive even with Oloro sitting in the command zone. The artifact theme is a little underwhelming though, and notice they put Tidehollow Strix in the esper deck, where Baleful Strix might have been more welcome.
I am seriously loving all the throwback arts featured in here (e.g. Quinton Hoover's Archangel, RIP my childhood~!) and all the new arts.
Agreed entirely!
Plus all the old reprinted cards everyone had forgotten about that were given new art. Reckless Spite? Phyrexian Delver? Reincarnation? (I fancy a lot of people just looking at the Card Image Gallery don't realise that's a reprint - I actually assumed it was on the Reserved List!)
And damn, that new Propaganda art... incredible...
Oooh, I see alot of stuff that has been on my EDH shopping list for a while, too bad conspiracy wasn't in there. Also, I'm surprised at how many ravnica block cards are being reprinted in the bant deck, disappointed that I have most of them in multiples already.
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I will probobly be buying the esper and grixis ones because of the generals and the great tradstuff! they did such a great job making these decks. I would have never expected to reprint so many of these cards, portal 3 kingdoms, weird old legends cards with classic or new art.
that and the new cards are brilliantly designed! Darksteel mutation is such an awesome flavor card! Toxic deluge is also kinda nuts, maybe even better than damnation? Im surprised nobody is talking about that snake guy either.
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I don't like these. There's a TON of filler, and the FtKs, Eternal Witnesses, Solemn Simulacrums, FoFs that provided a lot of generic utility and value just aren't there. Most of the reprinted rares aren't even cards you'd want to include in an on-theme deck that you'd spent any time and money on.
There's still potential value in the P3K reprints and the smattering of legacy playable new cards but I'd rather not have 90% of the value of my fancy new deck be in 2/99 cards.
Sol Ring is a card that goes in every deck and was already creeping back up in price. Why would you not want the market to be flooded with them?
I'll be honest and say that "goes in every deck" cards bother me. Yes, I have a plethora of Sol Ring, but I don't like that it makes every deck 98 cards + General + Sol Ring. It would at least give some exposure to other mana rocks like Mana Vault or hell, finally do a big paper printing of Mana Crypt. Yes, these would probably go in decks with Sol Ring rather than in place of them, but at least in precons it would showcase other cards.
your reasoning is not incorrect, it is just not what I hoped for.
Only the third 3 color legend in each deck is kind of meh, Except maybe rubinia.
Mayael? Wat, she does nothing in the deck! Sharuum? meeh, Thraximundar?! Could it not be something else? :C
Sekuar is ok, Aswell as Rubinia The new art makes it for these . Especially rubinia!
Sure, better than the dragons.
But really, MAYAEL?
MAYAEL?
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ideal choices would be, Merieke Ri Berit Hazezon Tamar too expensive to include, maybe Johan ?much better than mayael here.. thraximundar is great card, but a bit boring, any other grixis legends would do.But ok, he can stay. Sekuar is ok choice,but everyone would love Adun Oakenshield ...mackenzie for bant? xD. rubinia doesnt synergize at all. oh well!
Witch Hunt looks like the ultimate "hot potato" to add needless chaos to the game, unless you have in play that one enchantment (I think it's red) that protects you from red sources you control.
Is it just me, or does it look like the artist for Rubinia misread her name as "soulsigner"? It could be their genuine best effort, but the prominence of the contract she is offering, quill up, seems very evocative of a misreading of her name. Not that I dislike the art, but it looks like a visual typo.
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well my plan im going to take and improve upon the decks base stratagies naya, this will be easier ill probably have to completely rebuild esper and i guess ill buy jund too
At least you didn't get Marrow Bats.
Are we looking at the same decklist? Sphinx of the steel wind, Serra Avatar, Sanguine Bond & Vizkopa guildmage, Divinity of Pride... even Ajani's Pridemate will get massive even with Oloro sitting in the command zone. The artifact theme is a little underwhelming though, and notice they put Tidehollow Strix in the esper deck, where Baleful Strix might have been more welcome.
yea i noticed that too :thumbsdown:... but yea i guess that will have to do as far as win conditions ill give it a try at least to work it right
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Agreed entirely!
Plus all the old reprinted cards everyone had forgotten about that were given new art. Reckless Spite? Phyrexian Delver? Reincarnation? (I fancy a lot of people just looking at the Card Image Gallery don't realise that's a reprint - I actually assumed it was on the Reserved List!)
And damn, that new Propaganda art... incredible...
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I will probobly be buying the esper and grixis ones because of the generals and the great tradstuff! they did such a great job making these decks. I would have never expected to reprint so many of these cards, portal 3 kingdoms, weird old legends cards with classic or new art.
that and the new cards are brilliantly designed! Darksteel mutation is such an awesome flavor card! Toxic deluge is also kinda nuts, maybe even better than damnation? Im surprised nobody is talking about that snake guy either.
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There's still potential value in the P3K reprints and the smattering of legacy playable new cards but I'd rather not have 90% of the value of my fancy new deck be in 2/99 cards.
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I'll be honest and say that "goes in every deck" cards bother me. Yes, I have a plethora of Sol Ring, but I don't like that it makes every deck 98 cards + General + Sol Ring. It would at least give some exposure to other mana rocks like Mana Vault or hell, finally do a big paper printing of Mana Crypt. Yes, these would probably go in decks with Sol Ring rather than in place of them, but at least in precons it would showcase other cards.
your reasoning is not incorrect, it is just not what I hoped for.
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Mayael? Wat, she does nothing in the deck! Sharuum? meeh, Thraximundar?! Could it not be something else? :C
Sekuar is ok, Aswell as Rubinia The new art makes it for these . Especially rubinia!
Sure, better than the dragons.
But really, MAYAEL?
MAYAEL?
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ideal choices would be, Merieke Ri Berit Hazezon Tamar too expensive to include, maybe Johan ?much better than mayael here.. thraximundar is great card, but a bit boring, any other grixis legends would do.But ok, he can stay. Sekuar is ok choice,but everyone would love Adun Oakenshield ...mackenzie for bant? xD. rubinia doesnt synergize at all. oh well!
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