I really love Kruphix and his effect, and I don't even play U/G in EDH. It's really too bad that people are so far beyond the point of being able to look at a card objectively instead of passing judgment based on preconceived notions and their opinion on what it should be.
I don't like Kruphix, I'm sure he will be amazing in EDH for ramp, but I don't play EDH, I play mostly standard and modern, and kruphix is objectively terrible in these formats. I didn't have high hopes for a god in such a weakly supported color combination, but he is just really disappointing even with already low expectations. He doesn't provide card advantage or affect the board or even do anything on his own, and the only conceivable way to make good use of his abilities in standard is Spinx's Rev, but revving for 30 when you could have just revved for 8 is just win more.
I'm not saying I think you have to like him or give him a chance in a given format for your opinion to be valid; I just don't understand why people have to try and have such a narrow perspective on card design or abilities. By that, I mean that it is not necessary to try and view a card in the small box that is it's worth in some format. I think it's a cool design and appreciate it being a little different and certainly far from what many thought Kruphix would do. I can also appreciate that while it may not be a $40 mythic (at which people would complain because of accessibility and break out the torches and pitchforks over Mythic rarity - a damned if you do damned if you don't situation as always for Wizards), that it is something that someone is going to have a lot of fun with. People needn't lock away possibility in such confined spaces.
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Worthless for standard? how? Goes in mana ramp deck, so play turn 1 elvish mystic, turn 2 courser of kruphix, turn 3 prophet of kruphix, opponent's turn three kruphix god. At turn 4 you will get a sixth mana source, it won't take that long before you could play an enter the infinite, for which you would get to keep every single card and play them on your opponents turn. Yeah, dies to removal, but control decks lose to this deck. Mono black? that's really it's biggest threat, which means you could shape the deck in response. Hell, this could out monstrous rg monsters with all the krakens and hydras in the format right now.
You may call Kruphix EDH-only, but I love the idea of building a standard UG flash deck around him. Dictate for one-sided card draw, Prophet and Plasm Capture for silly amounts of mana... a man can dream!
Ugh Kruphix is so awful. I really don't like how these sets get EDH stuff in them when there is already products that specifically cater towards EDH. These spots would be better for Standard or Modern since Modern doesnt get its own product and this is all standard gets.
Spite of Mogis seems playable however. Pretty bomb card for the burn decks since it can be another Magma Jet/Lightning Strike.
Its statements like these that annoy me alot. A magic set caters to all formats. You already got a r/w god that's playable in standard and the terrible ajani to play in standard what else do you need? Not everything can be standard playable
You don't call "dying to removal" if the removal is more expensive in resources than the creature. If you have to spend BG (Abrupt Decay), or W + basic land (PtE) to remove a 1G, that is not "dying to removal". Strictly speaking Goyf dies to removal, but actually your removal is dying to Goyf.
Ugh Kruphix is so awful. I really don't like how these sets get EDH stuff in them when there is already products that specifically cater towards EDH. These spots would be better for Standard or Modern since Modern doesnt get its own product and this is all standard gets.
Spite of Mogis seems playable however. Pretty bomb card for the burn decks since it can be another Magma Jet/Lightning Strike.
Its statements like these that annoy me alot. A magic set caters to all formats. You already got a r/w god that's playable in standard and the terrible ajani to play in standard what else do you need? Not everything can be standard playable
Well you are a very confused person if you believe anything your saying. The set doesnt cater to Legacy nor Modern. So far this set has about 6-7 cards that will see competitive standard play (neither of the 2 you mentioned), and probably 1 card that is Eternal playable. Everything else is limited or EDH filler. I know your standards for a MTG set are probably low, but some of us want quality.
I don't hate running Kruphix as a Bant Control Sideboard slot against the mirror and Mono-B. Having both mana advantage and hand advantage in those match-ups is kinda huge and the fact that it can randomly come to life and punch your opponent in the face is pretty nice to.
I definitely will be picking up a foil copy for cheap.
Good luck with that- Karametra is (still) a $20 Foil, and they only go up from there
I got a good strategy for just that problem; everyone keep talking about how trash Kruphix is while the rest of us buy them up for cheap for our EDH decks.
Modern: UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy: UWBMiracles
Edh: UUUThassa Control WWWHokori Stax GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy BBBGriselbrand French List RBGShattergang(Super Villians) RWGHazezon Flicker UBRMarchesa Aggro URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
He's still junk in Standard as far as I'm concerned because a) it's too fast, b) d-sphere, counters and revoke are common and c) there's no practical use for the mana anyway.
The only good I get from Kruphix is that now Pharika would have a better chance to not scuk. I play EDH too but abilities like this just lead to boring gameplay.
A card like Thalia was a huge boon for both formats D&T decks, yet wasn't near to be oppressive. Spirit of the Labyrinth was an attempt at something like this, but wasn't as succesful. Even cards like master and thassa were picked up in modern merfolk and recently Anger of the Gods has become a powerful anti-pod card, Nykthos created a cool new deck in modern, Ashen Rider is reanimateable Show and Tell hate. In born the few cards that see play in modern and legacy are Courser, Brimaz and Spirit, and spirit is only seen is a few lists of Death and Taxes (brim is seen in most though.3 Cards out of 165. I'm not saying reprint Jace TMS in every block, but at least throw these formats a bone.
Compare what eternal formats got in this block so far compared to Inn/Da
Snappy, Lili, Garruck,Lingering Souls, Stony Silence, DELVER, Labratory Maniac (Now thats a Johnny card that I can get behind), Bump in the Night, Unburial Rights, Grudge, Ravings, Past in Flames, Geist, Huntmaster, Wolf Run,Grafdigger... Ok you get the idea, Theros block So far has been AWFUL for eternal formats.
Ugh Kruphix is so awful. I really don't like how these sets get EDH stuff in them when there is already products that specifically cater towards EDH. These spots would be better for Standard or Modern since Modern doesnt get its own product and this is all standard gets.
Spite of Mogis seems playable however. Pretty bomb card for the burn decks since it can be another Magma Jet/Lightning Strike.
Its statements like these that annoy me alot. A magic set caters to all formats. You already got a r/w god that's playable in standard and the terrible ajani to play in standard what else do you need? Not everything can be standard playable
Well you are a very confused person if you believe anything your saying. The set doesnt cater to Legacy nor Modern. So far this set has about 6-7 cards that will see competitive standard play (neither of the 2 you mentioned), and probably 1 card that is Eternal playable. Everything else is limited or EDH filler. I know your standards for a MTG set are probably low, but some of us want quality.
LOL and that statement right there shows you know nothing about magic. Do you even play in eternal formats? Do you realize how high the power level of a card has to be in order for it to break in to a competitive legacy deck? Plus the set hasn't even completely spoiled yet so you need to learn some patience kid. As for playability it's what you make of it. And I apologize I didnt realize you were so incredible at magic that you are able to predict the meta before a set is released I bow to you oh wise one.
Kruphix is obviously bad. Because there is never a deck that would want to shore up a ton of mana to cast something really big on turn 5 or 6. I mean, what can *really* be done with 11 or 12 mana on turn six with a tiny bit of ramp? Pfft.
Seriously, if you get him out on turn 4, which is trivial in the colors, you can easily have 11-13 mana available on turn 6. That's enter the infinite territory. That's Worldspine Wurm territory. That's a Rev for *nine* to *eleven* territory. And these are just the obvious ones. There is a lot that can be done with him, and I think people are being overly dismissive towards it. This sort of effect is powerful as hell, and takes very little work to actually abuse heavily. Hell, splash red red for Clan Defiance and just fire ball them to death.
He is a hell of a lot more powerful than some of the other ones. And I find it a damn shame that people are so dismissive about it. I understand fully *why* they are disappointed; one only needs to give a cursory look at the speculation thread on him to see that what they really wanted was a hilarious over powered and near broken card. It's really hard to meet unrealistic expectations like that.
As for the burn spell, I like it. It seems my Izzet build is getting exactly what it needs to actually function.
Kruphix - absolutely fantastic for casual formats particularly EDH. In standard though i'm not sure how viable it'll be (although I do love the interaction between him and Sphinx's Revelation where on one hand he lets you float mana for bigger Revelations and on the other hand he lets you keep all the cards you draw).
Spite of Mogis - it feels a lot like Skred except that instead of a snow theme it forces/requires an instant/sorcery theme, obviously works well with some of the izzet themed stuff in theros and also quite decent in a R/x burn deck (where it can play the large creature removal role that Boros uses Chained to the Rocks for and Rakdos uses Dreadbore for).
Umm, everything modern is for modern? It's not like everything in standard is good for standard, or every card in the commander sets is good for commander. You're upset because you have yet to find a use for Kruphix that fits into your understanding of the modern format when you have no reason to expect him to. Up until this point, all that was known about kruphix was that he was a legendary, blue/green enchantment creature with indestructible. Nothing about that demands to be in modern. That said, any legendary is of interest to EDH, so it would make sense that some legendaries are good for it.
Ugh Kruphix is so awful. I really don't like how these sets get EDH stuff in them when there is already products that specifically cater towards EDH. These spots would be better for Standard or Modern since Modern doesnt get its own product and this is all standard gets.
Spite of Mogis seems playable however. Pretty bomb card for the burn decks since it can be another Magma Jet/Lightning Strike.
Its statements like these that annoy me alot. A magic set caters to all formats. You already got a r/w god that's playable in standard and the terrible ajani to play in standard what else do you need? Not everything can be standard playable
Well you are a very confused person if you believe anything your saying. The set doesnt cater to Legacy nor Modern. So far this set has about 6-7 cards that will see competitive standard play (neither of the 2 you mentioned), and probably 1 card that is Eternal playable. Everything else is limited or EDH filler. I know your standards for a MTG set are probably low, but some of us want quality.
LOL and that statement right there shows you know nothing about magic. Do you even play in eternal formats? Do you realize how high the power level of a card has to be in order for it to break in to a competitive legacy deck? Plus the set hasn't even completely spoiled yet so you need to learn some patience kid. As for playability it's what you make of it. And I apologize I didnt realize you were so incredible at magic that you are able to predict the meta before a set is released I bow to you oh wise one.
Right, since its not like Spirit of the Labyrinth or Swan Song broke Legacy or anything like that. Cards don't need to be powerful, they just need to be efficient and not cost 20 mana to cast along with being incredibly situational and requiring a billion other cards to do anything.
Then again I don't know why Im trying to explain this to a narrow minded person who doesn't think before they speak and just likes to play tough guy on the internet with random people for no reason.
I'm not saying I think you have to like him or give him a chance in a given format for your opinion to be valid; I just don't understand why people have to try and have such a narrow perspective on card design or abilities. By that, I mean that it is not necessary to try and view a card in the small box that is it's worth in some format. I think it's a cool design and appreciate it being a little different and certainly far from what many thought Kruphix would do. I can also appreciate that while it may not be a $40 mythic (at which people would complain because of accessibility and break out the torches and pitchforks over Mythic rarity - a damned if you do damned if you don't situation as always for Wizards), that it is something that someone is going to have a lot of fun with. People needn't lock away possibility in such confined spaces.
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Good luck with that- Karametra is (still) a $20 Foil, and they only go up from there
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Its statements like these that annoy me alot. A magic set caters to all formats. You already got a r/w god that's playable in standard and the terrible ajani to play in standard what else do you need? Not everything can be standard playable
Considering how high the power level would have to be to be playable in Legacy or Modern, I'm happy we don't see those every week.
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Well you are a very confused person if you believe anything your saying. The set doesnt cater to Legacy nor Modern. So far this set has about 6-7 cards that will see competitive standard play (neither of the 2 you mentioned), and probably 1 card that is Eternal playable. Everything else is limited or EDH filler. I know your standards for a MTG set are probably low, but some of us want quality.
Absolutely! Didn't even think about that, perfect for my EDH!
I got a good strategy for just that problem; everyone keep talking about how trash Kruphix is while the rest of us buy them up for cheap for our EDH decks.
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I think it's too early to shove him off as solely EDH material (which he is indeed insane in that format).
He does quite change the tide once you can untap with him in play.
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WWWHokori Stax
GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy
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RBGShattergang(Super Villians)
RWGHazezon Flicker
UBRMarchesa Aggro
URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
No more merit than Worldspine Wurm.
If this were EDH you could easily pull off a tooth and nail for something like Archetype of Endurance and Prophet of Kruphix, or a Deadeye Navigator and Palinchron, eternal witness, time stretch, etc..
Compare what eternal formats got in this block so far compared to Inn/Da
Snappy, Lili, Garruck,Lingering Souls, Stony Silence, DELVER, Labratory Maniac (Now thats a Johnny card that I can get behind), Bump in the Night, Unburial Rights, Grudge, Ravings, Past in Flames, Geist, Huntmaster, Wolf Run,Grafdigger... Ok you get the idea, Theros block So far has been AWFUL for eternal formats.
LOL and that statement right there shows you know nothing about magic. Do you even play in eternal formats? Do you realize how high the power level of a card has to be in order for it to break in to a competitive legacy deck? Plus the set hasn't even completely spoiled yet so you need to learn some patience kid. As for playability it's what you make of it. And I apologize I didnt realize you were so incredible at magic that you are able to predict the meta before a set is released I bow to you oh wise one.
Seriously, if you get him out on turn 4, which is trivial in the colors, you can easily have 11-13 mana available on turn 6. That's enter the infinite territory. That's Worldspine Wurm territory. That's a Rev for *nine* to *eleven* territory. And these are just the obvious ones. There is a lot that can be done with him, and I think people are being overly dismissive towards it. This sort of effect is powerful as hell, and takes very little work to actually abuse heavily. Hell, splash red red for Clan Defiance and just fire ball them to death.
He is a hell of a lot more powerful than some of the other ones. And I find it a damn shame that people are so dismissive about it. I understand fully *why* they are disappointed; one only needs to give a cursory look at the speculation thread on him to see that what they really wanted was a hilarious over powered and near broken card. It's really hard to meet unrealistic expectations like that.
As for the burn spell, I like it. It seems my Izzet build is getting exactly what it needs to actually function.
And one rule that has never been broken before. Ok Combo players, GO! Bust this card (please!). Standard needs some variation of Combo.
Spite of Mogis - it feels a lot like Skred except that instead of a snow theme it forces/requires an instant/sorcery theme, obviously works well with some of the izzet themed stuff in theros and also quite decent in a R/x burn deck (where it can play the large creature removal role that Boros uses Chained to the Rocks for and Rakdos uses Dreadbore for).
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Right, since its not like Spirit of the Labyrinth or Swan Song broke Legacy or anything like that. Cards don't need to be powerful, they just need to be efficient and not cost 20 mana to cast along with being incredibly situational and requiring a billion other cards to do anything.
Then again I don't know why Im trying to explain this to a narrow minded person who doesn't think before they speak and just likes to play tough guy on the internet with random people for no reason.
I got mixed views for this new spoiled god and my mind is suddenly filled with UG deck ideas that I can't even put it in writing.