And two mana is a LOT more than one, especially in a format where most spells cost 1-2 mana.
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The first card you draw doesn't really count, since you spent a card to get it. So draw 3 cards = +2 CA, draw 2 cards = +1 CA. The true power of both cards comes from being delved, so you can consider the first one to just cost U while the other costs UU. In other words - Treasure Cruise produces twice as much card advantage for half the cost.
The first card you draw doesn't really count, since you spent a card to get it. So draw 3 cards = +2 CA, draw 2 cards = +1 CA. The true power of both cards comes from being delved, so you can consider the first one to just cost U while the other costs UU. In other words - Treasure Cruise produces twice as much card advantage for half the cost.
The big thing to note is card advantage is different from card selection. Demonic Tutor is card selection, but not card advantage. It is banned in legacy because extreme card selection is more busted than card advantage. Draw 3 can easily be draw 3 lands, but Demonic Tutor can search you up anything. It can even search you up a BOAT!!! To me, UU for pick 2 cards, is more dangerous in some decks than U draw 3. It all depends on the type of deck you are running. Both cards are very powerful.
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Well there goes my hopes for a JTMS unban in modern. Maybe next time. Likely not.
The day they unban JTMS in modern I will eat a Plains and post a video of it.
I feel your pain. Modern is where all the good new cards go to get banned. Card is good? Ban it! I wish wizards would print better answers instead of banning certain cards. Only a select few cards really need to get banned. Those cards usually get banned in legacy and restricted in vintage too.
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It's all really Wizards' fault for not reprinting Oblivion Ring in M11. It was just a perfect storm for JTMS to be broken. The only answer to him was either Jace Beleren or your own JTMS and then they both died. Shards of Alara block rotated and so Oblivion Ring and Bloodbraid Elf left the standard card pool. In NPH they gave us Exclusion Ritual and that card was just terrible. If JTMS had sufficient answers in standard then he probably wouldn't have been banned in either standard or modern.
Unpopular Opinion: I think Treasure Cruise should be unbanned in Modern. It was an incredibly powerful card that made Modern the most fun it's been in years. I think public opinion was that it was very powerful, but ultimately not format warping. Until it got banned. Then suddenly it became conventional wisdom that the card was the most busted thing to be printed in years. But if you look back, many of the opinions of the card, and its effect on the format, were much more positive during it's brief tenure in Modern. Obviously some people hated it from the start, but it wasn't until its banning that everyone seemed to retroactively believe that it was the most broken card since JtMS.
Unpopular Opinion: I think Treasure Cruise should be unbanned in Modern. It was an incredibly powerful card that made Modern the most fun it's been in years. I think public opinion was that it was very powerful, but ultimately not format warping. Until it got banned. Then suddenly it became conventional wisdom that the card was the most busted thing to be printed in years. But if you look back, many of the opinions of the card, and its effect on the format, were much more positive during it's brief tenure in Modern. Obviously some people hated it from the start, but it wasn't until its banning that everyone seemed to retroactively believe that it was the most broken card since JtMS.
(Results may be skewed because people who don't strongly think that anything should be (un)banned don't tend to vote.)
In our Modern forum, Treasure Cruisewas the most-hotly demanded card to be banned from Modern by a country mile, even narrowly edging out "I don't want any cards banned right now". From what I saw on the banlist thread pre-bans, Cruise was controversial, but the camp that wanted it to be or thought it would be banned was pretty vocal and pretty populated.
I also find it somewhat hard to believe that Cruise wasn't format-warping in Modern. In this chart that MTGS produced, the second (UR Delver) and third (Burn) most popular decks (as of 12/29-1/11, the last data point) played Cruise extensively. The second most popular deck sat at at 12.58% of the meta at the last data point, and the third most popular deck sat at 9.74%. (The most popular deck (Melira/Angel/Junk Pod) sat at 15.64%--not that much higher than the second most popular deck.) Before then (and starting at 10/6-10/19), the second most popular deck was actually the most popular deck, often by at least 8%. I certainly remember having to slog through a lot of UR Delver and Junk Pod decklists back then.
Back then, I thought that Cruise was definitely format-warping, but that Wizards would twiddle their thumbs and not ban it yet. I was certainly wrong.
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http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/march-23-2015-banned-and-restricted-announcement-2015-03-23
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Treasure Cruise is banned
100 Card Singleton
Skullclamp is banned
Other formats
NO CHANGES
Also, that's "100 Card Singleton," not "11 Card Singleton," but I personally would be much more interested in the latter format.
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Just shows that even after 20 years they still can't see and predict everything.
It baffles me a little how "Draw 3 cards" at sorcery speed is broken but "Pick the best 2 out of your top 7 cards of your library, then put the rest on the bottom" at instant speed for 1 more U but 1 less produces more balanced environments (although, from what I've seen in MTGO Dailies, Dig Through Time might need to be restricted in Vintage, as Gush Aggro and Gush Midrange are getting abnormally popular again). Perhaps getting that 3rd card really is that good.
Well, you can't really play the second one in pauper, now can you?
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The big thing to note is card advantage is different from card selection. Demonic Tutor is card selection, but not card advantage. It is banned in legacy because extreme card selection is more busted than card advantage. Draw 3 can easily be draw 3 lands, but Demonic Tutor can search you up anything. It can even search you up a BOAT!!! To me, UU for pick 2 cards, is more dangerous in some decks than U draw 3. It all depends on the type of deck you are running. Both cards are very powerful.
RIP Batman guy. I hope somebody picks up the slack now that you are gone. Sick children need their Batman.
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Stay reasonable, be mindful of your expectations and don't feed the trolls.
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I feel your pain. Modern is where all the good new cards go to get banned. Card is good? Ban it! I wish wizards would print better answers instead of banning certain cards. Only a select few cards really need to get banned. Those cards usually get banned in legacy and restricted in vintage too.
RIP Batman guy. I hope somebody picks up the slack now that you are gone. Sick children need their Batman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYrslokS2Ac
(Results may be skewed because people who don't strongly think that anything should be (un)banned don't tend to vote.)
In our Modern forum, Treasure Cruise was the most-hotly demanded card to be banned from Modern by a country mile, even narrowly edging out "I don't want any cards banned right now". From what I saw on the banlist thread pre-bans, Cruise was controversial, but the camp that wanted it to be or thought it would be banned was pretty vocal and pretty populated.
I also find it somewhat hard to believe that Cruise wasn't format-warping in Modern. In this chart that MTGS produced, the second (UR Delver) and third (Burn) most popular decks (as of 12/29-1/11, the last data point) played Cruise extensively. The second most popular deck sat at at 12.58% of the meta at the last data point, and the third most popular deck sat at 9.74%. (The most popular deck (Melira/Angel/Junk Pod) sat at 15.64%--not that much higher than the second most popular deck.) Before then (and starting at 10/6-10/19), the second most popular deck was actually the most popular deck, often by at least 8%. I certainly remember having to slog through a lot of UR Delver and Junk Pod decklists back then.
Back then, I thought that Cruise was definitely format-warping, but that Wizards would twiddle their thumbs and not ban it yet. I was certainly wrong.