I received these cards plus a mythic land and I came to see if it was real...
the mythic land makes me believe this new mana will function like a 6th color.
I don't know the source, and I don't know if its real.
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Shout outs to all the people that couldn't wrap their heads around the idea of a subtype-less basic land and a big "I told you so" to all the people that said it was t going to happen in this block (or at all). I am so sure that Wastes is real, I'd almost be willing to wager my entire collection on it... but since I'm only 99.9% sure, I won't make that bet. I will bet $100 dollars though.
The symbol in the mana cost is clearly "must be paid with colorless" and not snow or some sort of 6th color. Also, they tend to drop reminder text to make text fit on a card at higher rarities, especially mythic, so it not having reminder text is not unreasonable. EDIT: hmm, Mirrorpool up there throws this into question.
The basic land being a common and not land rarity suggests they're going to be in the draftable part of the set, much like the snow basics in Coldsnap.
Honestly, I would be surprised if these turn out to be fake.
I like that he's not legal in any EDH deck we currently have.
So at first glance, he's clearly colorless and thus available to any deck. But I see what you mean; the wording on color identity means that he can't be in any deck who's commander doesn't have the "stars" in their cost or text. But isn't it safe to assume that this isn't a new color, and thus still colorless? (...or are you making a funny observation that's clearly going over my head? lol)
So at first glance, he's clearly colorless and thus available to any deck. But I see what you mean; the wording on color identity means that he can't be in any deck who's commander doesn't have the "stars" in their cost or text. But isn't it safe to assume that this isn't a new color, and thus still colorless? (...or are you making a funny observation that's clearly going over my head? lol)
No idea but that answer will lead to how well this set it received in the long run. I assumed that it was a new color, but it could be more like Phyrexian mana where it needs to be paid with blah blah blah something rules.
So at first glance, he's clearly colorless and thus available to any deck. But I see what you mean; the wording on color identity means that he can't be in any deck who's commander doesn't have the "stars" in their cost or text. But isn't it safe to assume that this isn't a new color, and thus still colorless? (...or are you making a funny observation that's clearly going over my head? lol)
No idea but that answer will lead to how well this set it received in the long run. I assumed that it was a new color, but it could be more like Phyrexian mana where it needs to be paid with blah blah blah something rules.
Yeah, my money's on the "phyrexian mana" approach. Strange that they didn't lead with this in the large set, but there's so much still left unknown. We'll see.
I like that he's not legal in any EDH deck we currently have.
So at first glance, he's clearly colorless and thus available to any deck. But I see what you mean; the wording on color identity means that he can't be in any deck who's commander doesn't have the "stars" in their cost or text. But isn't it safe to assume that this isn't a new color, and thus still colorless? (...or are you making a funny observation that's clearly going over my head? lol)
Given that he's clearly colorless and doesn't have devoid, the star symbols must be colorless themselves. This means his color identity is colorless
903.4. The Commander variant uses color identity to determine what cards can be in a deck with a certain commander. The color identity of a card is the color or colors of any mana symbols in that card’s mana cost or rules text, plus any colors defined by its characteristic-defining abilities (see rule 604.3) or color indicator (see rule 204).
It was explained that each titan has a different effect, Kozilek distorts reality, but Ulamog Consumes everythings, their brood is also different. For me it males sense that they change things in different ways.
So at first glance, he's clearly colorless and thus available to any deck. But I see what you mean; the wording on color identity means that he can't be in any deck who's commander doesn't have the "stars" in their cost or text. But isn't it safe to assume that this isn't a new color, and thus still colorless? (...or are you making a funny observation that's clearly going over my head? lol)
No idea but that answer will lead to how well this set it received in the long run. I assumed that it was a new color, but it could be more like Phyrexian mana where it needs to be paid with blah blah blah something rules.
Seems closer to snow covered mana or whatever it was called.
What would be the function of this new land if it adds a colorless-like mana since we already have that?
Off the top of my head, it impacts EDH/Commander because decks lead by colorless commanders now have access to a limitless number of one land, rather than having to depend solely on (potentially expensive) non-basics. In terms of regular gameplay, it essentially acts as a 6th color, in that you're rewarded for NOT running only regular basics by being able to cast spells and activate abilities that require the colorless symbol.
Mirrorpool is interesting. Why does it add <> and not just {1}?
This is an important question. <> in the mana cost makes sense if we assume it to be Exclusively Colorless. But adding <> vs adding (1) to your mana pool??? I see no reason for that unless <> must be paid with exactly <>. If that's the case, I'm much less excited about this.
Another option i see is that <> is "exclusively colored", which is rainbow mana that cannot be used to pay colorless cost, and that <> in mana costs may be payed with either any color or <>, but not colorless. I don't like that option either, tbh.
Just based on these three card alone oath is already a significantly better set than everything in BFZ combined, neato burrito.
So Barry's Land seems to have made it with the no-subtype idea being the ticket, that cleans up a lot of domain/etc interactions, and the aesthetics we see are showing this set will have a completely fresh thematic compared to BFZ, instead of just being a continuation. This is great, as BFZ painfully retrod zen/rote. It looks like this will be a case of the NPH design where everything has dramatically warped, probably a 'bad guys won' story.
If I had a gripe, I'd rather they went with a simpler symbol for the barry mana. Just a circle with a dot in it would suffice. But maybe that would make kozileks casting cost look like a pair of boobies. But having the barry mana be so eldrazi looking restricts where it could be reprinted
Sure looks like the style of Aleksi Briclot to me.
the mythic land makes me believe this new mana will function like a 6th color.
I don't know the source, and I don't know if its real.
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The basic land being a common and not land rarity suggests they're going to be in the draftable part of the set, much like the snow basics in Coldsnap.
Honestly, I would be surprised if these turn out to be fake.
So at first glance, he's clearly colorless and thus available to any deck. But I see what you mean; the wording on color identity means that he can't be in any deck who's commander doesn't have the "stars" in their cost or text. But isn't it safe to assume that this isn't a new color, and thus still colorless? (...or are you making a funny observation that's clearly going over my head? lol)
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Yeah, my money's on the "phyrexian mana" approach. Strange that they didn't lead with this in the large set, but there's so much still left unknown. We'll see.
Given that he's clearly colorless and doesn't have devoid, the star symbols must be colorless themselves. This means his color identity is colorless
Mirrorpool is really, really cool.
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Off the top of my head, it impacts EDH/Commander because decks lead by colorless commanders now have access to a limitless number of one land, rather than having to depend solely on (potentially expensive) non-basics. In terms of regular gameplay, it essentially acts as a 6th color, in that you're rewarded for NOT running only regular basics by being able to cast spells and activate abilities that require the colorless symbol.
i think if these are real, we'll never see "add 1 to your mana pool" again. it will always be "add <> to your mana pool"
If those are fake, I'll be really surprised; as others have said, those look crazy enough to be real.
This is an important question. <> in the mana cost makes sense if we assume it to be Exclusively Colorless. But adding <> vs adding (1) to your mana pool??? I see no reason for that unless <> must be paid with exactly <>. If that's the case, I'm much less excited about this.
Another option i see is that <> is "exclusively colored", which is rainbow mana that cannot be used to pay colorless cost, and that <> in mana costs may be payed with either any color or <>, but not colorless. I don't like that option either, tbh.
Dragon's Maze wasn't that long ago.
Either some giant conspiracy is trying to make a profit off of preorders or these things are real. And everyone will still just play abzan and WURB
So Barry's Land seems to have made it with the no-subtype idea being the ticket, that cleans up a lot of domain/etc interactions, and the aesthetics we see are showing this set will have a completely fresh thematic compared to BFZ, instead of just being a continuation. This is great, as BFZ painfully retrod zen/rote. It looks like this will be a case of the NPH design where everything has dramatically warped, probably a 'bad guys won' story.
If I had a gripe, I'd rather they went with a simpler symbol for the barry mana. Just a circle with a dot in it would suffice. But maybe that would make kozileks casting cost look like a pair of boobies. But having the barry mana be so eldrazi looking restricts where it could be reprinted
I need no water and food. Just to know how this badass will show up and destroy the walkers hard work to scrumbles.
The new land will be just like the snow lands IMO. A colorless land that certain cards need to be cast and/or activate certain abilities.