Ah, so more like you want an overlay for Hydroform. Still an instant, but fits your criteria.
Nah it doesn't besides that I also said earlier that Gideon in many version has a recurring ability so that another factor to look into. Not just this and that.
That's why your GG example that was proven false already from the beginning. Even this one because your trying hard to disprove an argument with cherry picking.
Ah, so more like you want an overlay for Hydroform. Still an instant, but fits your criteria.
Nah it doesn't besides that I also said earlier that Gideon in many version has a recurring ability so that another factor to look into. Not just this and that.
That's why your GG example that was proven false already from the beginning. Even this one because your trying hard to disprove an argument with cherry picking.
Except there is no recurring ability. The number of Gideon planeswalkers that have been printed doesn't help your argument because of the sheer amount of variation between his animation abilities. Of the six planeswalkers with the Gideon subtype, two become 4/4s, two become 5/5s, one becomes a 6/6, and one has a variable P/T on animation. If your argument hinges on you assuming that Gideon of the Trials becoming a 4/4 is basically the same thing as Gideon Jura becoming a 6/6, then you might as well lump manlands and the like into your idea as well.
Even if you disregard important details like card name and the fact that he keeps his other loyalty abilities in the case of Oath of Teferi and The Chain Veil, then you'd still need almost as many tokens as there are Gideon planeswalkers.
I honestly won't mind a Gideon token. But I don't think it's Wizard's priority.
There has to be a reason to introduce a gimmick. Tokens were once gimmicks that over time became a staple in packs. It was necessary because R&D has incorporated so many token enablers in cards.
This Bolas DFC token is definitely a gimmick, but nonetheless a warranted gimmick, since we're exploring the life of Bolas.
If there's ever a reason for Wizards to make a Gideon-theme set, be sure to see gimmicks in homage to him.
Except there is no recurring ability. The number of Gideon planeswalkers that have been printed doesn't help your argument because of the sheer amount of variation between his animation abilities. Of the six planeswalkers with the Gideon subtype, two become 4/4s, two become 5/5s, one becomes a 6/6, and one has a variable P/T on animation. If your argument hinges on you assuming that Gideon of the Trials becoming a 4/4 is basically the same thing as Gideon Jura becoming a 6/6, then you might as well lump manlands and the like into your idea as well.
So your bringing power and toughness as a justification? genius
Have you checked the Bolas card representation below? It does not have P/T
Except there is no recurring ability. The number of Gideon planeswalkers that have been printed doesn't help your argument because of the sheer amount of variation between his animation abilities. Of the six planeswalkers with the Gideon subtype, two become 4/4s, two become 5/5s, one becomes a 6/6, and one has a variable P/T on animation. If your argument hinges on you assuming that Gideon of the Trials becoming a 4/4 is basically the same thing as Gideon Jura becoming a 6/6, then you might as well lump manlands and the like into your idea as well.
So your bringing power and toughness as a justification? genius
Have you checked the Bolas card representation below? It does not have P/T
This is why token overlays for Gideon Planeswalkers would be bad. Because they would have to look like this. (there's one more but I can only add 5)
I mean, just look at the typelines. Since he is all of those things.. it gets so compressed.
(The Gideon, Battle-Forged has a casting cost indicator of 1, because his CMC is 1, because it is a dual-faced card)
Nah it doesn't besides that I also said earlier that Gideon in many version has a recurring ability so that another factor to look into. Not just this and that.
That's why your GG example that was proven false already from the beginning. Even this one because your trying hard to disprove an argument with cherry picking.
Except there is no recurring ability. The number of Gideon planeswalkers that have been printed doesn't help your argument because of the sheer amount of variation between his animation abilities. Of the six planeswalkers with the Gideon subtype, two become 4/4s, two become 5/5s, one becomes a 6/6, and one has a variable P/T on animation. If your argument hinges on you assuming that Gideon of the Trials becoming a 4/4 is basically the same thing as Gideon Jura becoming a 6/6, then you might as well lump manlands and the like into your idea as well.
Even if you disregard important details like card name and the fact that he keeps his other loyalty abilities in the case of Oath of Teferi and The Chain Veil, then you'd still need almost as many tokens as there are Gideon planeswalkers.
There has to be a reason to introduce a gimmick. Tokens were once gimmicks that over time became a staple in packs. It was necessary because R&D has incorporated so many token enablers in cards.
This Bolas DFC token is definitely a gimmick, but nonetheless a warranted gimmick, since we're exploring the life of Bolas.
If there's ever a reason for Wizards to make a Gideon-theme set, be sure to see gimmicks in homage to him.
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Have you checked the Bolas card representation below? It does not have P/T
Let me help you with what's next casting cost....
That's not a token. It's a 1-card checklist.
I mean, just look at the typelines. Since he is all of those things.. it gets so compressed.
(The Gideon, Battle-Forged has a casting cost indicator of 1, because his CMC is 1, because it is a dual-faced card)
You don't even need to put casting cost in there, it doesn't even require casting or even a P/T it other than being a card representation like bolas
Were talking about that bolas representation card without P/T.. and it's not a token
When did I say it is a token any way even in the first page of the thread I said clearly about a representation card not a token
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