Couldn’t the Elder spell be a Mythic Black spell, given it’s Bolas’ signature? Not saying it will be, just seems not totally outside the realm of possibility.
All gods added to the crunch. Brings out Mythic total from 5 earlier this week to 10! Amazing how quick that changed! 5 more mythics left and again I’m thinking there’s another 5 monocolor cycle.
To me, the *sensible* breakdown is: two rare or one mythic per monocolor, and five 2-color. So 6 and 5 rather than his top-of-head 5 and 6. That he possibly tallied Tezzeret among the multicolored when doing a quick mental checklist and forgot entirely about whichever of Tamiyo/Narset is rare.
It is feasible that MaRo provided incorrect information (he said so himself), which could mean that Tamiyo and Narset are both mono-blue. I'm operating under the assumption that he provided correct information.
Whelp, my hunch was wrong and you were right. Tamiyo is indeed UG.
I feel the need to point out that there is currently room for at least two multicolor Oaths, which would make sense in a Planeswalker set. My money is on Kaya, Ral, Tamiyo or Vraska.
I feel the need to point out that there is currently room for at least two multicolor Oaths, which would make sense in a Planeswalker set. My money is on Kaya, Ral, Tamiyo or Vraska.
Vraska I can see. Ral, I feel, is content being Izzet Guildleader. Tamiyo turned down the offer once before and will likely do so again if asked, as she prefers to watch from the sidelines. If Sorin and Nahiri come to their senses, we could get a Sorin one, as it would mean more help in wresting Innistrad from Olivia and more people to defend it when Emrakul escapes. Perhaps Saheeli or Samut could join, but I feel they're more side characters at this point.
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I feel the need to point out that there is currently room for at least two multicolor Oaths, which would make sense in a Planeswalker set. My money is on Kaya, Ral, Tamiyo or Vraska.
I'd rule out Kaya and Vraska. It seems like they placed walkers at U/R/M based on their level of relevance to the story, so I can't imagine ones that were relevant enough to get an Oath were irrelevant enough to be made as Uncommons.
The fact that they made Sorin rare while Nahiri is uncommon makes me think he may have a bigger part to play here than "tussle with Nahiri" (while her sole role is likely "tussle with Sorin")
I agree on everything except the bit about Tamiyo. Her signature card in the set represents her realizing that her "prime directive" shtick is just getting people killed and, more importantly, causing her to lose out on valuable information.
I could see Tamiyo joining, her epiphany this set was she couldn’t stay on the sidelines. Maybe it’ll give her more motivation. Hard to say. I’m guessing we won’t overlap on colors for a while, but short of making a new Blue/Green Walker it’s Tamiyo or Kiora for now.
I also can’t see Sorin joining, he’s extremely uninterested in anything that isn’t Innistrad.
I think it would be Vraska and Kaya. Vraska basically is a member (if she wasn't playing sleeper agent I think she would have gotten an oath during Ixalan) and Kaya seems to be getting a bit of spotlight lately that I think might be them setting up her joining the gatewatch.
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If we go by the theory that each color pair gets 2 Multicolored Rares/Mythics, we have the following breakdown:
WU - 2 (Teferi and Time Wipe)
UB - 1 (Enter the God Eternals)
BR - 2 (Dreadhorde Butcher and Widespread Brutality)
RG - 2 (Domri and Living Twister)
GW - 2 (Ajani and Tolsimir)
WB - 1 (Sorin)
UR - 2 (Ral and Role Reversal)
BG - 1 (Storrev)
RW - 2 (Feather and Solar Blaze)
GU - 2 (Tamiyo and Roalesk)
This leaves us with a slot UB, WB, and BG for Oaths. WB, however, is earmarked for the CCD cycle, which could still be possible as an Oath of Kaya or Sorin for XWBB. UB and BG both already have their members of the CCD cycle (Enter and Storrev), so they could get an oath fairly easily. BG would obviously be Vraska. UB could be Davriel, or even Ashiok (lol), but is unlikely. We really need a better look at Niv's card to cement his card number. Also, considering the numbering, there is a possibility of an artifact "Oath of Karn" at 241 or 242, or even a possible colorless Oath at 2 if Ugin is 3, though both are unlikely.
I'd rule out Kaya and Vraska. It seems like they placed walkers at U/R/M based on their level of relevance to the story, so I can't imagine ones that were relevant enough to get an Oath were irrelevant enough to be made as Uncommons.
The fact that they made Sorin rare while Nahiri is uncommon makes me think he may have a bigger part to play here than "tussle with Nahiri" (while her sole role is likely "tussle with Sorin")
Trying to fit a maximum number of Walkers meant meant a few had to be jumbled around? Vraska's at uncommon because there aren't any other Golgari Walkers who Nicol Bolas would invite to a party where he doesn't want Garruk to murder all the walkers he gathered very carefully.
I would say Kaya probably is less relevant than Sorin, in the way Kiora and Saheeli are less relevant than Tami and Ral, but that doesn't mean that Vraska is unimportant.
So we know all Planeswalker rarities now (added to the crunch).
For Oaths we actually have room for a white oath! Maybe Teyo joins? But yeah depending on Niv we can 2 - 3 oaths and I think Maro said we’d get an oath (or at least new gatewatch members).
My mistake. Had a brain fart and misread the count. Thanks for pointing that out. Now we know all oaths will be multicolored (unless we get a colorless Karn or Ugin oath which I doubt we will get).
So we now have one for 1 Oath in multicolor (put it as speculation). We have room in multicolor and artifacts for an Oath but I doubt we will see one in either of those spots. There is no room for oaths in monocolor.
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Yeah, it appears that all of the God-Eternals will cost 3(color)(color) and have that ability in addition to whatever else they have.
Yep you’re right needed this confirmation!!!! So we get 5 gods and I guess 5 additional mythics in each color probably. That’s 10.
Gideon, Bolas, and Liliana makes 13
Simic and Niv Mizzet 15!
Confirming the Elder spell is probably most definitely rare!
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But yeah the Elder Spell could as well be mono B.
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Whelp, my hunch was wrong and you were right. Tamiyo is indeed UG.
Vraska I can see. Ral, I feel, is content being Izzet Guildleader. Tamiyo turned down the offer once before and will likely do so again if asked, as she prefers to watch from the sidelines. If Sorin and Nahiri come to their senses, we could get a Sorin one, as it would mean more help in wresting Innistrad from Olivia and more people to defend it when Emrakul escapes. Perhaps Saheeli or Samut could join, but I feel they're more side characters at this point.
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I'd rule out Kaya and Vraska. It seems like they placed walkers at U/R/M based on their level of relevance to the story, so I can't imagine ones that were relevant enough to get an Oath were irrelevant enough to be made as Uncommons.
The fact that they made Sorin rare while Nahiri is uncommon makes me think he may have a bigger part to play here than "tussle with Nahiri" (while her sole role is likely "tussle with Sorin")
I also can’t see Sorin joining, he’s extremely uninterested in anything that isn’t Innistrad.
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WU - 2 (Teferi and Time Wipe)
UB - 1 (Enter the God Eternals)
BR - 2 (Dreadhorde Butcher and Widespread Brutality)
RG - 2 (Domri and Living Twister)
GW - 2 (Ajani and Tolsimir)
WB - 1 (Sorin)
UR - 2 (Ral and Role Reversal)
BG - 1 (Storrev)
RW - 2 (Feather and Solar Blaze)
GU - 2 (Tamiyo and Roalesk)
This leaves us with a slot UB, WB, and BG for Oaths. WB, however, is earmarked for the CCD cycle, which could still be possible as an Oath of Kaya or Sorin for XWBB. UB and BG both already have their members of the CCD cycle (Enter and Storrev), so they could get an oath fairly easily. BG would obviously be Vraska. UB could be Davriel, or even Ashiok (lol), but is unlikely. We really need a better look at Niv's card to cement his card number. Also, considering the numbering, there is a possibility of an artifact "Oath of Karn" at 241 or 242, or even a possible colorless Oath at 2 if Ugin is 3, though both are unlikely.
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I would say Kaya probably is less relevant than Sorin, in the way Kiora and Saheeli are less relevant than Tami and Ral, but that doesn't mean that Vraska is unimportant.
Vraska and Tami have my vote for getting Oaths.
If not I would bet we might see " PW Death's" card on monday.
For Oaths we actually have room for a white oath! Maybe Teyo joins? But yeah depending on Niv we can 2 - 3 oaths and I think Maro said we’d get an oath (or at least new gatewatch members).
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